FabSwingers.com forum: Bloody Salmond!

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So, here he is, leader of the SNP, holders of 6 seats in Scotland (and seeing a reduction in his majority in his constituency at the election)and he's decided he's going to make demands on Cameron for not only more money, but for more control over how it's spent.

Ignoring the fact that Holyrood was built on a swamp and was so over budget it's legendary (though, arent we all pleased they got their think pods?!), I dont think Salmond is capable of buying the fish suppers and irn-bru with any manner of success.

He fights for a devolved Scotland then goes making demands on the House of Commons to fund it!

I live in Scotland and for the life of me cant imagine what they think they would do if they were fully devolved...or is there something I'm mising?

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

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"So, here he is, leader of the SNP, holders of 6 seats in Scotland (and seeing a reduction in his majority in his constituency at the election)and he's decided he's going to make demands on Cameron for not only more money, but for more control over how it's spent.

He fights for a devolved Scotland then goes making demands on the House of Commons to fund it!

I live in Scotland and for the life of me cant imagine what they think they would do if they were fully devolved...or is there something I'm mising?"

united we stand .......nuff said

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By *ensualfire88Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"he's going to make demands on Cameron for not only more money, but for more control over how it's spent."

Of course he is. And he knows full weel that he isnt going to get it, Cameron will tell him where to go.

This plays perfectly into Salmonds' hands as he can, once again, up the rhetoric about 'London controlled Goverment' and 'tory & lib dem' imposed cuts. This plays wonderfully to the died in the wool nationalist 'anti english/pro independence' sentiment which fuels the snp.

I'm no fan of independence for various reasons, but i have to (grudgingly) acknowledge that the snp know their audience/core supporters well and are brilliant at the way they present the argument to the electorate - everyone is always on message and the message is always the same 'this wouldnt happen in an independent scotland'.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

""he's going to make demands on Cameron for not only more money, but for more control over how it's spent."

Of course he is. And he knows full weel that he isnt going to get it, Cameron will tell him where to go.

Hitler did propaganda.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""he's going to make demands on Cameron for not only more money, but for more control over how it's spent."

Of course he is. And he knows full weel that he isnt going to get it, Cameron will tell him where to go.

Hitler did propaganda....."

and??????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*will not post on Salmond*

grrrrr... restriant, dear boy...

*will not post on Salmond*

grrrrrrr......

wanker!

oops... that slipped out unintentionally...

*will not post on Salmond*

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By *ensualfire88Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"*will not post on Salmond*

*will not post on Salmond*

grrrrr... restriant, dear boy...

*will not post on Salmond*

grrrrrrr......

wanker!

oops... that slipped out unintentionally...

*will not post on Salmond*"

Have a nice cup of tea, sit down and enjoy a nice spring day. You'll be fine!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

personally i cant stand the man, he a close third after cam the sham and hague!!

he has done a lot for scotland i will grudgingly give him that, but i wish he would shove his referendum right up his................

im against it, we are attached to england but we have a wall to keep them out lol!!

we are fine they way we are with devolved powers full independance would ruin us and i really dont want to have to move in with wishy!!!! xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

...of course, Thatcher spent all Scotland's oil revenue money on paying the dole money for the millions of people that were thrown out of work as a result of her policies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

David Cameron WILL give the Scottish Parliament stronger powers over Devolution whether Salmond asks for it or not. The Tories don't like us and that showed in their election manifest, hence nobody in Scotland voted for them except Dumfries and the borders.

I had a manuscript somewhere from an Economical Development course I did in my last job showing Scotlands GDP and if spent right then Scotland would prosper on its own and not die as the biased press would like to make you think.

However, that said, that does not make me a supporter of Salmond or his blinkered views as I think he is not the right person to carry it through.

In fact I don't really see any party in Scotland with the political ideals strong enough to lead an independant Scotland.

We are strongest within a UNITED Kingdom and like it or lump the History

all 4 countries actually need the others if we plan on survving this recession.

I'd still shag wee Nicola though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"David Cameron WILL give the Scottish Parliament stronger powers over Devolution whether Salmond asks for it or not. The Tories don't like us and that showed in their election manifest, hence nobody in Scotland voted for them except Dumfries and the borders.

However, that said, that does not make me a supporter of Salmond or his blinkered views as I think he is not the right person to carry it through.

In fact I don't really see any party in Scotland with the political ideals strong enough to lead an independant Scotland.

We are strongest within a UNITED Kingdom and like it or lump the History

all 4 countries actually need the others if we plan on survving this recession.

I'd still shag wee Nicola though

seriosly?? what about cathy?? or annabel??x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...of course, Thatcher spent all Scotland's oil revenue money on paying the dole money for the millions of people that were thrown out of work as a result of her policies."

shhhh !! your not allowed to critice the great lady!!!

although that is what she did!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like her or loathe her. Thatcher turned an Industrial White Elephant that Scotland was becoming into a highly successful Support industry.

Look at the number of call centres that sprung up all over the country .

Environmentalists are always banging on about burning of fossil fuels etc killing the planet.

Thatcher closed them down and made us a Greener place to live in.

I could go on but I'll get off my soap box.

Thatcher does get blasted in Scotland for what she did, however looking at the bigger picture her vision for a cleaner, healthier future was spot on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah prefer wee Nicola ever since some student did that caricature of her in S&M kit, everytime she appears on TV I still see that PVC

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...of course, Thatcher spent all Scotland's oil revenue money on paying the dole money for the millions of people that were thrown out of work as a result of her policies."

blah blah blah.. Thatcher, Thatcher, Thatcher... that's going to be my standard response to any post that mentions her name. Talk about living in the past....sheesh!

To my mind, the people that can get the stuff out of the ground have as much claim on oil as anyone else. Without those people it would still be buried there.

*Scotland's oil money* bollocks. Scotland has had plenty of cash from Westminster to more than make up for it, plus Scotland is STILL a part of the Union and that makes it everyone's money. Until Scotland takes no cash from Westminster at all it can have no legal claim on North Sea revenues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Like her or loathe her. Thatcher turned an Industrial White Elephant that Scotland was becoming into a highly successful Support industry.

Look at the number of call centres that sprung up all over the country .

Environmentalists are always banging on about burning of fossil fuels etc killing the planet.

Thatcher closed them down and made us a Greener place to live in.

I could go on but I'll get off my soap box.

Thatcher does get blasted in Scotland for what she did, however looking at the bigger picture her vision for a cleaner, healthier future was spot on.

i might be seeing this different to you i live in a coalfield area that was also a high manufacturing area and there is sweet fuck all job wise??

no call centres?? opencasts are main employer not very enviromentally friendly??

call centres the satanic mills of our generation loads of studies been done into them and its not looking good xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...of course, Thatcher spent all Scotland's oil revenue money on paying the dole money for the millions of people that were thrown out of work as a result of her policies.

blah blah blah.. Thatcher, Thatcher, Thatcher... that's going to be my standard response to any post that mentions her name. Talk about living in the past....sheesh!

To my mind, the people that can get the stuff out of the ground have as much claim on oil as anyone else. Without those people it would still be buried there.

the same as you do as soon as tory blair is mentioned??? or when someone critices the cam the sham?? or says somethin nice about gordon broon??

not all scots want independence but the north sea oil one is always used in an arguement and when you compare what we did with the money and what i cant remember if it was scandanavia or somewhere else?? did with theirs its a poor comparison xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the same as you do as soon as tory blair is mentioned??? "

TORY blair??? Are you coming over to the Blue Side finally... hehehe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Check out http://www.oilofscotland.org/ - it's heavily anti-London but an interesting read all the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the same as you do as soon as tory blair is mentioned???

TORY blair??? Are you coming over to the Blue Side finally... hehehe

dont be so bloody silly man lol!! you know my feelings on him!! was a tory in a primark suit lol!!

but credit to him he did do some good as did maggie xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

{spurts hot coffee all over keyboard}

Did you just say MAGGIE did some good? Are we talking about THE maggie? y'know Lady Thatch!!! Hold crud! You ARE coming over to the Blue Side!!

Party time, welcome to our newest sister!!!

(blue-ish smileys)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"{spurts hot coffee all over keyboard}

Did you just say MAGGIE did some good? Are we talking about THE maggie? y'know Lady Thatch!!! Hold crud! You ARE coming over to the Blue Side!!

Party time, welcome to our newest sister!!!

(blue-ish smileys)"

it will snow in the hills of hell!!!!

she did do SOME good just not very much, but bein the nice person that i am i give credit where its due and criticism where there has a been a fuck up !!!

like a tory a socialist never changes its spots!! xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd still shag wee Nicola though

Friggin eck, you must be really struggling!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Point being Maggie did do some good.

Albeit she did cripple huge parts of Scotland.

As for North Sea Oil, this is an argument that will go on until the oil wells dry up.

The people of Scotland pay over £50bn every year to Westminster. Of that we receive well over half of it back to run the country.

If someone with the balls to run the country properly kept that income in Scotland then the more we would have to invest in more important issues like Health, Education, etc.

Not all about oil. North Sea oil makes but a fraction of the income produced in Scotland.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Point being Maggie did do some good.

Albeit she did cripple huge parts of Scotland.

As for North Sea Oil, this is an argument that will go on until the oil wells dry up.

The people of Scotland pay over £50bn every year to Westminster. Of that we receive well over half of it back to run the country.

If someone with the balls to run the country properly kept that income in Scotland then the more we would have to invest in more important issues like Health, Education, etc.

Not all about oil. North Sea oil makes but a fraction of the income produced in Scotland."

think of how much it could be if buckfast was made here......xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Above post meant to say we receive less than half of it back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Englands biggest export

The monks make it and the average Scottish NED drinks it by the bucket load

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What always makes me smile, is all those Scots socialists who would have Maggie in hell tomorrow, pontificating from their sofas in the lounges of their BOUGHT council houses!!!!!

And then there's supposedly the best chancellor we've ever had; ehhh, who screwed up all our pensions and sold off the country's gold reserves at a fraction of their worth? And who starved the armed forces of money when they had 2 wars on their hands?

It's high time Scots woke up and started thinking for themselves, instead of simply voting the way their fathers voted, who voted the way their fathers voted!!

And if Blair or Brown had been in power at the time, we'd still be politely asking the Argies to leave the Falklands!!

And when it comes to the unions, do you really want to return to the days when much of industry was on strike more often then they were working??

Come on, wake up and smell the roses!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gies yer gold I'll gie ye cash

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Argies about to invade again this time with the support of other Latin American nations

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Argies about to invade again this time with the support of other Latin American nations

has been on the cards for a while...they had the support of the other latin countries a few months back....and also have the support of the UN in that they have agreed that sovereignty is once again a matter to be put up for negotiation between us n the argies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Makes you wonder why we went over there in 1982.

Obama has sat on the fence on this one. This is Britains dirty wee war nothing to do with the US..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Argie President has had her honeymoon period...the country are fed up with her and her attitude towards them and their economic situation.

This is just an attempt to whip up some patriotic fervour in the lead up to elections in October next year in a bid to keep her in office.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What always makes me smile, is all those Scots socialists who would have Maggie in hell tomorrow, pontificating from their sofas in the lounges of their BOUGHT council houses!!!!!

It's high time Scots woke up and started thinking for themselves, instead of simply voting the way their fathers voted, who voted the way their fathers voted!!

And if Blair or Brown had been in power at the time, we'd still be politely asking the Argies to leave the Falklands!!

And when it comes to the unions, do you really want to return to the days when much of industry was on strike more often then they were working??

Come on, wake up and smell the roses!!!"

i rent my council house actually....and dont vote as my granparents or parent did i vote of my own free mind and i would joyfully see her in hell even if it was just to scare satan....

as for unions im great believer in them if they are fightin for the rights of the WORKER xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Home rule for the Shetlands and yes thank you very much we will take OUR OIL with us !

A large No. of scots think Whisky sales would keep the country wealthy .The tax on the vile brew is what makes it expensive, an independant scotland would not generate enough revenue from whisky to keep it going .It may put you on your backs .Leave the union and the scots take their share of the national debt on , lose thousands of jobs back to England And definatly get to Shove RBS up your kilt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Barnett formulae of 1978 Giving scotland £1,500 per person more per annum than english counter parts ! did maggie kill it No!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who said anything about revenue from Whisky.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The Barnett formulae of 1978 Giving scotland £1,500 per person more per annum than english counter parts ! did maggie kill it No!

neither did labour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who said anything about revenue from Whisky.

I'm not giving anyone anything. Sod yas! ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who said anything about revenue from Whisky.

I'm not giving anyone anything. Sod yas! ...

ya miserable git!...am boycotting newcastle brown ale now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who said anything about revenue from Whisky.

I'm not giving anyone anything. Sod yas! ...

ya miserable git!...am boycotting newcastle brown ale now

It ain't made here anymore so it ain't Newccy Brown per se.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who said anything about revenue from Whisky.

give it time and shortbread and the capture of the haggis and nessie will come up...

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