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"I joined this site over 5 years ago and haven't met any women. I'm young(ish), good looking, educated, a trim body and nice cock. Why do I not get any responses to messages? I can be polite or dirty it leads to the same, no response. Its a bit disheartening when those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together. Where exactly am I going wrong? I have made 3 dates in the real world in the last few days yet never anything here. It feels like the whole swinging community is just a bit stuck up and cliqy. Should I just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women?" Hun your post on here is four times as long as your profile text. Have a rewrite and make it a bit more interesting, look at some of the 'out of shape' but very successful guys and learn from their profiles. Put up some new pics as well. | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism..." Leave the fun to us overweight , uneducated cretins and leave forthwith. Your absence will be a tremendous loss to Fab but, hey, I guess we're just going to have to learn to struggle on without you. Such a shame as yiu seem such a modest and well adjusted guy....,,, | |||
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"3 things I think might be a reason. 1. Cannont accomadate 2. Both public pics are of your cock (if youve been on here 5 years im surprised you dont know by now cock pics are a no no as woman see hundreds a day, a nice torso or bum or face pic would be better). 3. Buff out your profile a bit more, one sentence isn't going to entice anyone. best of luck bud, gotta be patient too." All the above plus go to socials and clubs to get yourself known. | |||
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"3 things I think might be a reason. 1. Cannont accomadate 2. Both public pics are of your cock (if youve been on here 5 years im surprised you dont know by now cock pics are a no no as woman see hundreds a day, a nice torso or bum or face pic would be better). 3. Buff out your profile a bit more, one sentence isn't going to entice anyone. best of luck bud, gotta be patient too." A usefulanswer. Thank you very much. I always send face and body pics with messages and I cannot accom as share with students but I will work on my profile. Have much more luck with uni girls on tinder than on here and that just has my face haha | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism... Welcome to the forums lol" indeedy tis a harsh place to be. | |||
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"3 things I think might be a reason. 1. Cannont accomadate 2. Both public pics are of your cock (if youve been on here 5 years im surprised you dont know by now cock pics are a no no as woman see hundreds a day, a nice torso or bum or face pic would be better). 3. Buff out your profile a bit more, one sentence isn't going to entice anyone. best of luck bud, gotta be patient too. A usefulanswer. Thank you very much. I always send face and body pics with messages and I cannot accom as share with students but I will work on my profile. Have much more luck with uni girls on tinder than on here and that just has my face haha" hey your very welcome. Good luck | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism... Welcome to the forums lol indeedy tis a harsh place to be. " I don't think so. The OP's initial post contained several criticisms in itself so it's only fair he gets some in return. | |||
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"Have you tried going to any of the clubs. " I went to my local sauna last week. Only 2 couples there, I spoke to one and they were friendly. Also 2 guys who just followed me around leering and openly wanking while staring at me so kinda put me off to be honest | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism... Welcome to the forums lol indeedy tis a harsh place to be. I don't think so. The OP's initial post contained several criticisms in itself so it's only fair he gets some in return." | |||
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"3 things I think might be a reason. 1. Cannont accomadate 2. Both public pics are of your cock (if youve been on here 5 years im surprised you dont know by now cock pics are a no no as woman see hundreds a day, a nice torso or bum or face pic would be better). 3. Buff out your profile a bit more, one sentence isn't going to entice anyone. best of luck bud, gotta be patient too. A usefulanswer. Thank you very much. I always send face and body pics with messages and I cannot accom as share with students but I will work on my profile. Have much more luck with uni girls on tinder than on here and that just has my face haha" Shouldn't that tell you something about what pics work and don't work? | |||
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"Have you tried going to any of the clubs. I went to my local sauna last week. Only 2 couples there, I spoke to one and they were friendly. Also 2 guys who just followed me around leering and openly wanking while staring at me so kinda put me off to be honest" Was just going to say BGHS but guess that's what your talking about. Might be worth giving it another go. You never know if it's going to busy or not in there. | |||
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"3 things I think might be a reason. 1. Cannont accomadate 2. Both public pics are of your cock (if youve been on here 5 years im surprised you dont know by now cock pics are a no no as woman see hundreds a day, a nice torso or bum or face pic would be better). 3. Buff out your profile a bit more, one sentence isn't going to entice anyone. best of luck bud, gotta be patient too. A usefulanswer. Thank you very much. I always send face and body pics with messages and I cannot accom as share with students but I will work on my profile. Have much more luck with uni girls on tinder than on here and that just has my face haha Shouldn't that tell you something about what pics work and don't work? " Haha yes quite possibly. Always been unsure of having a face pic public on here | |||
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"Who did I criticise" I'll take a wild guess at these guys..... "out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together" | |||
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"How do you know the "out of shape" over 50's these women meet can't string a sentence together, have you chatted to them?" From thier profile text... I suppose they may have dyslexia, I'll keep that in mind | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism..." Your profile needs work it do not stand out ....... Look up other men here who do well and get tips from there profiles . Your one of a number so you need good pics not cocks ... and if not full face just something different . | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism..." Actually you are getting advice, you just aren't seeing it. To be blunt your attitude sucks. | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism... Actually you are getting advice, you just aren't seeing it. To be blunt your attitude sucks." | |||
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"Who did I criticise I'll take a wild guess at these guys..... "out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together"" I wasn't being specific haha. And there is nothing wrong with being in your 50's. I apologise if it came off that way | |||
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" Its a bit disheartening when those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together. " How do you know they can't string a sentence together? My advice would be to look at what you're saying in messages, your profile says nothing, your pics say nothing. To be on here 5 years is a long time..I joined a year ago last week. To be honest I dont think you'll get any meets now as you have not been verified for a very long time so if I was you I'd delete your profile. But if you cannot communicate on here even deleting your profile won't help. Good luck | |||
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"How do you know the "out of shape" over 50's these women meet can't string a sentence together, have you chatted to them? From thier profile text... I suppose they may have dyslexia, I'll keep that in mind" Maybe.... But looks like they are doing something right if they get meets and a fit clever chap like you doesn't . But to your op if you mailed me I would check your profile and then delete your message | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism... Actually you are getting advice, you just aren't seeing it. To be blunt your attitude sucks. " I said that in response to my first 3 replies. Where was the advice in them? Lot of rude defensive people on here | |||
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"Who did I criticise? I was looking for advice but get criticism... Welcome to the forums lol indeedy tis a harsh place to be. I don't think so. The OP's initial post contained several criticisms in itself so it's only fair he gets some in return." Out of shape guys in their 50's. If that isn't a criticism then I don't know what is. You say you visited a sauna, that's a not the ideal place to start, have you tried an actual club on a social night? That's probably the best place. There's often threads in the club's forum. | |||
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"How do you know the "out of shape" over 50's these women meet can't string a sentence together, have you chatted to them? From thier profile text... I suppose they may have dyslexia, I'll keep that in mind Maybe.... But looks like they are doing something right if they get meets and a fit clever chap like you doesn't . But to your op if you mailed me I would check your profile and then delete your message " Based on the lack of profile text and pics? | |||
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"Who did I criticise I'll take a wild guess at these guys..... "out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together" I wasn't being specific haha. And there is nothing wrong with being in your 50's. I apologise if it came off that way " So what about the bit about swingers being stuck up and cliquey? Though if you think that it does beg the question why on earth are you on here... | |||
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"Thank you so much to those who have been helpful and actually given advice. To the others who took what I said wrongly and just weighed in to have a go at me...what great people you are" Just goes to show! Everyone has given you advice. You don't see your opening thread as insulting, I can't see where anyone has "had a go!" C'est la vie! | |||
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"Thank you so much to those who have been helpful and actually given advice. To the others who took what I said wrongly and just weighed in to have a go at me...what great people you are" In all fairness, 'those who weighed in to have a go' also provided you with sound advice. Which is-if you're going to ask for advice don't mix it with criticism. Another top piece of advice for survival as a single male is to grow a thick skin and not overreact when someone knocks you. | |||
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"You've suggested, on a swingers forum, that swingers are stuck up and cliquey, people will take a dislike and be defensive. " I get stuck up sometimes - my cock rammed up a wet pussy so my balls stick to her labia I jut thought I'd add a sousance of amusement to lighten the thread.... | |||
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"How do you know the "out of shape" over 50's these women meet can't string a sentence together, have you chatted to them? From thier profile text... I suppose they may have dyslexia, I'll keep that in mind Maybe.... But looks like they are doing something right if they get meets and a fit clever chap like you doesn't . But to your op if you mailed me I would check your profile and then delete your message Based on the lack of profile text and pics?" Yes I'm afraid so , especially when I'd seen how long you had been on without making any effort on it | |||
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"Thank you so much to those who have been helpful and actually given advice. To the others who took what I said wrongly and just weighed in to have a go at me...what great people you are In all fairness, 'those who weighed in to have a go' also provided you with sound advice. Which is-if you're going to ask for advice don't mix it with criticism. Another top piece of advice for survival as a single male is to grow a thick skin and not overreact when someone knocks you." Let's try out that advice: Mr Who? Your guitar playing is shite | |||
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"Thank you so much to those who have been helpful and actually given advice. To the others who took what I said wrongly and just weighed in to have a go at me...what great people you are" And still the insults continue... The criticisms in your opening post were very specific and with zero ambiguity - what exactly did people take the wrong way? | |||
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"I joined this site over 5 years ago and haven't met any women. I'm young(ish), good looking, educated, a trim body and nice cock. Why do I not get any responses to messages? I can be polite or dirty it leads to the same, no response. Its a bit disheartening when those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together. Where exactly am I going wrong? I have made 3 dates in the real world in the last few days yet never anything here. It feels like the whole swinging community is just a bit stuck up and cliqy. Should I just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women?" Why are you worried about your lack of success on here if you re having success in ' the real world' or as you ve said with uni girls, ? There are countless threads in the archives asking the same question they will offer you generic advice you need to interpret that and use it to show the best 'you' no one else can do that for you This near fifty year old who s not in bad shape and can talk a bit suggests you take on board the critique ( good and bad,) and change something Einstein said to do the same things over and over again and expect a different result was a definition of insanity, | |||
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" Make sure you can accomadate as that helps. " Only if he CAN actually accomodate because if he does get a meet and he can't, that's just going to be a kick in the balls waiting to happen. I'm not sure the OP warrented a new arsehole ripped for him looking at the some of the responses he's had. But good luck take the advice in this thread and delete/start a new profile chap. You've been here too long as an unverified. That's going to put off 95% of this site straight away. | |||
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"Thank you so much to those who have been helpful and actually given advice. To the others who took what I said wrongly and just weighed in to have a go at me...what great people you are In all fairness, 'those who weighed in to have a go' also provided you with sound advice. Which is-if you're going to ask for advice don't mix it with criticism. Another top piece of advice for survival as a single male is to grow a thick skin and not overreact when someone knocks you. Let's try out that advice: Mr Who? Your guitar playing is shite " Personal taste is a subjective thing. Some people like my style of playing, others don't. I'd also agree with you if I compared myself to the likes of Steve Vai. This thick skinned business is easy | |||
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"Thank you so much to those who have been helpful and actually given advice. To the others who took what I said wrongly and just weighed in to have a go at me...what great people you are" I don't think people were really rude - you've got to remember that there's loads of these messages on the forums every single day. I guess it gets a bit seeing the same old thing every single day when the answers really are obvious. The first thing is sort out the text - it says nothing about your personality at all. Admittedly, mine is long-winded, quirky and not for many but I do get some interest from it. I also found that a good profile pic makes the world of difference - much more likely to get attention. There's a million pics of genitalia on here. I'm meeting someone tomorrow (no longer on site). When we first were in touch a long while back, she commented on how nice it was to get a proper, polite message. Really concentrate on what you are saying and the spelling. It's hardly rocket science mate! There are so many single guys on here - always going to be tough though. | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism... Actually you are getting advice, you just aren't seeing it. To be blunt your attitude sucks. I said that in response to my first 3 replies. Where was the advice in them? Lot of rude defensive people on here" i was the first to reply,and i repied to your question,"Should I just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women?" i answered yes,and i stick by that answer.the only other answer i could have given would have been no,and that would make me a liar.so tell me how was that rude?or do you define rude as being given an answer you really didnt want to hear? and as you are talking about rudeness,was it not rude to say "those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together." or " the whole swinging community is just a bit stuck up and cliqy." i stick by my advice,yes,you "Should just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women? | |||
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"Who did I criticise I'll take a wild guess at these guys..... "out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together"" | |||
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"You've suggested, on a swingers forum, that swingers are stuck up and cliquey, people will take a dislike and be defensive. " I said it feels like they are stuck up and cliqy, not that they are. More than willing to be corrected on that though. | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism... Actually you are getting advice, you just aren't seeing it. To be blunt your attitude sucks. I said that in response to my first 3 replies. Where was the advice in them? Lot of rude defensive people on here i was the first to reply,and i repied to your question,"Should I just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women?" i answered yes,and i stick by that answer.the only other answer i could have given would have been no,and that would make me a liar.so tell me how was that rude?or do you define rude as being given an answer you really didnt want to hear? and as you are talking about rudeness,was it not rude to say "those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together." or " the whole swinging community is just a bit stuck up and cliqy." i stick by my advice,yes,you "Should just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women?" A reply of 'yes' to a post with multiple questions isn't rude, it isn't anything. Just a waste of time adding at all I would say. | |||
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"You've suggested, on a swingers forum, that swingers are stuck up and cliquey, people will take a dislike and be defensive. I said it feels like they are stuck up and cliqy, not that they are. More than willing to be corrected on that though." The way I see it, swinging and the forums is like moving to a new area where no one knows you. You can't expect to walk into the local pub and expect everyone to start buying you drinks. You have to get to know people and join the community, build relationships and make friends. That, to some, May sound like a clique but to others it is just a community of people with similar interests. | |||
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"You've suggested, on a swingers forum, that swingers are stuck up and cliquey, people will take a dislike and be defensive. I said it feels like they are stuck up and cliqy, not that they are. More than willing to be corrected on that though." That's why I said you suggested they were, not said outright they were. | |||
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"I was rude to Mr Who who took it like a man..... " I'm actually crying on the inside! | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism... Actually you are getting advice, you just aren't seeing it. To be blunt your attitude sucks. I said that in response to my first 3 replies. Where was the advice in them? Lot of rude defensive people on here i was the first to reply,and i repied to your question,"Should I just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women?" i answered yes,and i stick by that answer.the only other answer i could have given would have been no,and that would make me a liar.so tell me how was that rude?or do you define rude as being given an answer you really didnt want to hear? and as you are talking about rudeness,was it not rude to say "those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together." or " the whole swinging community is just a bit stuck up and cliqy." i stick by my advice,yes,you "Should just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women? A reply of 'yes' to a post with multiple questions isn't rude, it isn't anything. Just a waste of time adding at all I would say." you dont like the answer,dont ask the question. | |||
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"Thank you so much to those who have been helpful and actually given advice. To the others who took what I said wrongly and just weighed in to have a go at me...what great people you are I don't think people were really rude - you've got to remember that there's loads of these messages on the forums every single day. I guess it gets a bit seeing the same old thing every single day when the answers really are obvious. The first thing is sort out the text - it says nothing about your personality at all. Admittedly, mine is long-winded, quirky and not for many but I do get some interest from it. I also found that a good profile pic makes the world of difference - much more likely to get attention. There's a million pics of genitalia on here. I'm meeting someone tomorrow (no longer on site). When we first were in touch a long while back, she commented on how nice it was to get a proper, polite message. Really concentrate on what you are saying and the spelling. It's hardly rocket science mate! There are so many single guys on here - always going to be tough though." Thanks Lostsock. You seem lika a nice guy. I had literally just woken up when i wrote the OP so I may have been a little forthright haha | |||
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"Thank you so much to those who have been helpful and actually given advice. To the others who took what I said wrongly and just weighed in to have a go at me...what great people you are I don't think people were really rude - you've got to remember that there's loads of these messages on the forums every single day. I guess it gets a bit seeing the same old thing every single day when the answers really are obvious. The first thing is sort out the text - it says nothing about your personality at all. Admittedly, mine is long-winded, quirky and not for many but I do get some interest from it. I also found that a good profile pic makes the world of difference - much more likely to get attention. There's a million pics of genitalia on here. I'm meeting someone tomorrow (no longer on site). When we first were in touch a long while back, she commented on how nice it was to get a proper, polite message. Really concentrate on what you are saying and the spelling. It's hardly rocket science mate! There are so many single guys on here - always going to be tough though. Thanks Lostsock. You seem lika a nice guy. I had literally just woken up when i wrote the OP so I may have been a little forthright haha " I think you need to hear this, fella, " you re doing nothing wrong,,!! Its everybody elses fault," | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism... Actually you are getting advice, you just aren't seeing it. To be blunt your attitude sucks. I said that in response to my first 3 replies. Where was the advice in them? Lot of rude defensive people on here i was the first to reply,and i repied to your question,"Should I just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women?" i answered yes,and i stick by that answer.the only other answer i could have given would have been no,and that would make me a liar.so tell me how was that rude?or do you define rude as being given an answer you really didnt want to hear? and as you are talking about rudeness,was it not rude to say "those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together." or " the whole swinging community is just a bit stuck up and cliqy." i stick by my advice,yes,you "Should just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women? A reply of 'yes' to a post with multiple questions isn't rude, it isn't anything. Just a waste of time adding at all I would say. you dont like the answer,dont ask the question." My OP had different facets and multiple questions. Therefore your original 'yes' was in no way an answer or advice or helpful without other words being added around it. I'm putting you in the uneducated pile as you clearly can't grasp what I am getting at. | |||
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"I thought my advice was good. " Sorry Steve, it was incredibly good advice and you did lighten the mood haha so thank you for that | |||
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"Thank you so much to those who have been helpful and actually given advice. To the others who took what I said wrongly and just weighed in to have a go at me...what great people you are I don't think people were really rude - you've got to remember that there's loads of these messages on the forums every single day. I guess it gets a bit seeing the same old thing every single day when the answers really are obvious. The first thing is sort out the text - it says nothing about your personality at all. Admittedly, mine is long-winded, quirky and not for many but I do get some interest from it. I also found that a good profile pic makes the world of difference - much more likely to get attention. There's a million pics of genitalia on here. I'm meeting someone tomorrow (no longer on site). When we first were in touch a long while back, she commented on how nice it was to get a proper, polite message. Really concentrate on what you are saying and the spelling. It's hardly rocket science mate! There are so many single guys on here - always going to be tough though. Thanks Lostsock. You seem lika a nice guy. I had literally just woken up when i wrote the OP so I may have been a little forthright haha I think you need to hear this, fella, " you re doing nothing wrong,,!! Its everybody elses fault," " . Whoooo hoooo collective blame !!!! | |||
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"I think you need to hear this, fella, " you re doing nothing wrong,,!! Its everybody elses fault," " The real irony is that he's the only unverified person to have posted to this thread... | |||
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"Thank you so much to those who have been helpful and actually given advice. To the others who took what I said wrongly and just weighed in to have a go at me...what great people you are I don't think people were really rude - you've got to remember that there's loads of these messages on the forums every single day. I guess it gets a bit seeing the same old thing every single day when the answers really are obvious. The first thing is sort out the text - it says nothing about your personality at all. Admittedly, mine is long-winded, quirky and not for many but I do get some interest from it. I also found that a good profile pic makes the world of difference - much more likely to get attention. There's a million pics of genitalia on here. I'm meeting someone tomorrow (no longer on site). When we first were in touch a long while back, she commented on how nice it was to get a proper, polite message. Really concentrate on what you are saying and the spelling. It's hardly rocket science mate! There are so many single guys on here - always going to be tough though. Thanks Lostsock. You seem lika a nice guy. I had literally just woken up when i wrote the OP so I may have been a little forthright haha I think you need to hear this, fella, " you re doing nothing wrong,,!! Its everybody elses fault," . Whoooo hoooo collective blame !!!! " My bad,, sorry Tina ' its minxies fault,!!" | |||
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"Thank you so much to those who have been helpful and actually given advice. To the others who took what I said wrongly and just weighed in to have a go at me...what great people you are" And here lies a clue as to why your not getting meets. One minute your trying to be humble and apologise, the next you having a go at the very people who are trying to help you. What does come across xlearly in this thread is your apparent bad attitude which you just dont appear to be able to control with the constant retorts you place on most of your posts. Perhaps climbing off your high horse may help just dont get your foot stuck in the saddle on your way down. Finally remember one thing, woman on this site may just prefer a dyslexic guy in his 50's with a great attitude to an educated fit guy of your age whose attitude leaves alot to be desired. But at least your beginning to understand why no one wants to meet with you | |||
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"Thank you so much to those who have been helpful and actually given advice. To the others who took what I said wrongly and just weighed in to have a go at me...what great people you are I don't think people were really rude - you've got to remember that there's loads of these messages on the forums every single day. I guess it gets a bit seeing the same old thing every single day when the answers really are obvious. The first thing is sort out the text - it says nothing about your personality at all. Admittedly, mine is long-winded, quirky and not for many but I do get some interest from it. I also found that a good profile pic makes the world of difference - much more likely to get attention. There's a million pics of genitalia on here. I'm meeting someone tomorrow (no longer on site). When we first were in touch a long while back, she commented on how nice it was to get a proper, polite message. Really concentrate on what you are saying and the spelling. It's hardly rocket science mate! There are so many single guys on here - always going to be tough though. Thanks Lostsock. You seem lika a nice guy. I had literally just woken up when i wrote the OP so I may have been a little forthright haha I think you need to hear this, fella, " you re doing nothing wrong,,!! Its everybody elses fault," . Whoooo hoooo collective blame !!!! My bad,, sorry Tina ' its minxies fault,!!" " Too late mate we have to accept your first answer lol | |||
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"You've suggested, on a swingers forum, that swingers are stuck up and cliquey, people will take a dislike and be defensive. I said it feels like they are stuck up and cliqy, not that they are. More than willing to be corrected on that though." It's not up to us to prove ourselves to you, it's your responsibility to make an effort to make yourself appealing to us. The suggestion that you're not getting meets because there is something wrong with us, rather than there being something wrong with your approach, is never going to help you on here. | |||
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"I joined this site over 5 years ago and haven't met any women. I'm young(ish), good looking, educated, a trim body and nice cock. Why do I not get any responses to messages? I can be polite or dirty it leads to the same, no response. Its a bit disheartening when those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together. Where exactly am I going wrong? I have made 3 dates in the real world in the last few days yet never anything here. It feels like the whole swinging community is just a bit stuck up and cliqy. Should I just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women?" It can be cliquey,those that say its not must have lived charmed lives....swinging can be cliquey...now having got that out of the way...... All I can say is try to chill out....I know it can be frustrating.....we all get like that at times....keep at it if you want to stay though but don't let it be the be all and end all.....my advice.....go non vanilla as well....hang around the forums...join in with threads, its helped lots to get meets. Good Luck | |||
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"OP be honest with yourself, you imagined a swinging site to be full of sex craved people willing to have sex 24/7 . The reality is very different and people find it incredulous when this doesn't happen. It isn't about being body beautiful (if it was id never get a meet) or having a large cock or being able to squirt a geyser 30ft high. Swinging is a very social activity, the sex is just a small part of why people swing. Those overweight 50 year old men who are successful with meets are sociable, fun, interesting, easy to talk to, offer interesting opinion, join in on the forum, can talk a.out other topics other than sex, attend socials and build up a network of swinging friends. That's what we all do, those of us who enjoy the swinging scene. In all honesty you will be more successful in the town on a Friday night. " Well put | |||
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"You've suggested, on a swingers forum, that swingers are stuck up and cliquey, people will take a dislike and be defensive. I said it feels like they are stuck up and cliqy, not that they are. More than willing to be corrected on that though." I think if you read this thread carefully and think about it. You will revise your view. | |||
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"OP be honest with yourself, you imagined a swinging site to be full of sex craved people willing to have sex 24/7 . The reality is very different and people find it incredulous when this doesn't happen. It isn't about being body beautiful (if it was id never get a meet) or having a large cock or being able to squirt a geyser 30ft high. Swinging is a very social activity, the sex is just a small part of why people swing. Those overweight 50 year old men who are successful with meets are sociable, fun, interesting, easy to talk to, offer interesting opinion, join in on the forum, can talk a.out other topics other than sex, attend socials and build up a network of swinging friends. That's what we all do, those of us who enjoy the swinging scene. In all honesty you will be more successful in the town on a Friday night. " this | |||
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"You've suggested, on a swingers forum, that swingers are stuck up and cliquey, people will take a dislike and be defensive. I said it feels like they are stuck up and cliqy, not that they are. More than willing to be corrected on that though. I think if you read this thread carefully and think about it. You will revise your view." Yeh the fact ur op called people cliqy insulted 50+ year olds and in a round about way called swingers unattractive u have had alot of advise considering its a im a single man can't get meets thread | |||
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"To be honest mate, you're whole existence on here from: a) your profile text b) public pics c) length of time without a meet d) first forum post e) inability to work out where the issue lies Is completely fucked and it's undefuckable. My best advice would be to rip it up and start again. " On reflection I think I agree with Ryan too. | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism... Actually you are getting advice, you just aren't seeing it. To be blunt your attitude sucks. I said that in response to my first 3 replies. Where was the advice in them? Lot of rude defensive people on here i was the first to reply,and i repied to your question,"Should I just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women?" i answered yes,and i stick by that answer.the only other answer i could have given would have been no,and that would make me a liar.so tell me how was that rude?or do you define rude as being given an answer you really didnt want to hear? and as you are talking about rudeness,was it not rude to say "those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together." or " the whole swinging community is just a bit stuck up and cliqy." i stick by my advice,yes,you "Should just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women? A reply of 'yes' to a post with multiple questions isn't rude, it isn't anything. Just a waste of time adding at all I would say. you dont like the answer,dont ask the question. My OP had different facets and multiple questions. Therefore your original 'yes' was in no way an answer or advice or helpful without other words being added around it. I'm putting you in the uneducated pile as you clearly can't grasp what I am getting at." uneducated pile? Hahaha | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism... Actually you are getting advice, you just aren't seeing it. To be blunt your attitude sucks. I said that in response to my first 3 replies. Where was the advice in them? Lot of rude defensive people on here i was the first to reply,and i repied to your question,"Should I just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women?" i answered yes,and i stick by that answer.the only other answer i could have given would have been no,and that would make me a liar.so tell me how was that rude?or do you define rude as being given an answer you really didnt want to hear? and as you are talking about rudeness,was it not rude to say "those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together." or " the whole swinging community is just a bit stuck up and cliqy." i stick by my advice,yes,you "Should just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women? A reply of 'yes' to a post with multiple questions isn't rude, it isn't anything. Just a waste of time adding at all I would say. you dont like the answer,dont ask the question. My OP had different facets and multiple questions. Therefore your original 'yes' was in no way an answer or advice or helpful without other words being added around it. I'm putting you in the uneducated pile as you clearly can't grasp what I am getting at." Ouch. You can stop digging now. You've done enough damage. | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism... Actually you are getting advice, you just aren't seeing it. To be blunt your attitude sucks. I said that in response to my first 3 replies. Where was the advice in them? Lot of rude defensive people on here i was the first to reply,and i repied to your question,"Should I just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women?" i answered yes,and i stick by that answer.the only other answer i could have given would have been no,and that would make me a liar.so tell me how was that rude?or do you define rude as being given an answer you really didnt want to hear? and as you are talking about rudeness,was it not rude to say "those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together." or " the whole swinging community is just a bit stuck up and cliqy." i stick by my advice,yes,you "Should just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women? A reply of 'yes' to a post with multiple questions isn't rude, it isn't anything. Just a waste of time adding at all I would say. you dont like the answer,dont ask the question. My OP had different facets and multiple questions. Therefore your original 'yes' was in no way an answer or advice or helpful without other words being added around it. I'm putting you in the uneducated pile as you clearly can't grasp what I am getting at." I'm gonna take a wild stab in the dark here but the many "dates" you get in the "real" world with ease don't tend to ever have a follow up do they? | |||
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"You say you're educated but can't see where you're going wrong? After 5 years? All those 50's are shagging the women whilst you're not...why? My advice is to ask yourself this: is my profile the absolute very best effort I could possible do? If the answer is yes, then the site might not be for you, if the answer is no then after 5 years, perhaps you could imagine considering changing it? There are loads of people in Brighton going round each others houses and shagging - get in there!" Actually Steve, it's just you! OP, have you checked out Steves profile? He is a prime example of a successful Fabber. | |||
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"I joined this site over 5 years ago and haven't met any women. I'm young(ish), good looking, educated, a trim body and nice cock. Why do I not get any responses to messages? I can be polite or dirty it leads to the same, no response. Its a bit disheartening when those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together. Where exactly am I going wrong? I have made 3 dates in the real world in the last few days yet never anything here. It feels like the whole swinging community is just a bit stuck up and cliqy. Should I just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women?" You are too focused on other guys and less on yourself. 5 years here and still a profile with so little on it? tough love but you need to wake up address the issue and its lack of real effort on your part as I see it and it will continue unless you put more into your profile. | |||
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"if you really are as you describe i think guys like us.. yes us! arent that popular on here if im completely honest you see alot of the women onhere saying they like the goodlooking guys with the fit bods and they have an abundance of them at hand but then you see the veris and pics and its like lol these guys you`re meeting arent that " Because good looks and a fit bod is subjective...... I know a lass who preferred me when I was several stone fatter...that was fit to her... | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism... Actually you are getting advice, you just aren't seeing it. To be blunt your attitude sucks. I said that in response to my first 3 replies. Where was the advice in them? Lot of rude defensive people on here i was the first to reply,and i repied to your question,"Should I just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women?" i answered yes,and i stick by that answer.the only other answer i could have given would have been no,and that would make me a liar.so tell me how was that rude?or do you define rude as being given an answer you really didnt want to hear? and as you are talking about rudeness,was it not rude to say "those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together." or " the whole swinging community is just a bit stuck up and cliqy." i stick by my advice,yes,you "Should just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women? A reply of 'yes' to a post with multiple questions isn't rude, it isn't anything. Just a waste of time adding at all I would say. you dont like the answer,dont ask the question. My OP had different facets and multiple questions. Therefore your original 'yes' was in no way an answer or advice or helpful without other words being added around it. I'm putting you in the uneducated pile as you clearly can't grasp what I am getting at. uneducated pile? Hahaha You have no sympathy for his situation therefore you must be failing to understand and thick. Obviously. " obviously lol massaging egos never was my forte | |||
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"I joined this site over 5 years ago and haven't met any women. I'm young(ish), good looking, educated, a trim body and nice cock. Why do I not get any responses to messages? I can be polite or dirty it leads to the same, no response. Its a bit disheartening when those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together. Where exactly am I going wrong? I have made 3 dates in the real world in the last few days yet never anything here. It feels like the whole swinging community is just a bit stuck up and cliqy. Should I just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women?" wow... that is some heavy duty running over of a lot of people in that big bus of yours right there.... maybe its because you have those opinions that people may not want to meet you..... you get out what you put in.... what effort did you put in to your "shop window to the world"... i'll leave you to figure out what I may be alluding to... heck wouldn't want an "old of shape fat dude" doing all the work for you now.. would you!!! the site gives you all the tools you need to make it work... make use of, all of them, some of them or none of them! however if you cannot be bothered to "help yourself" (again I'll leave you to work out what that may well mean) then why on earth should other people be bothered to help you? maybe the issue isn't other people.... its a lot... lot... lot closer to home! | |||
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"if you really are as you describe i think guys like us.. yes us! arent that popular on here if im completely honest you see alot of the women onhere saying they like the goodlooking guys with the fit bods and they have an abundance of them at hand but then you see the veris and pics and its like lol these guys you`re meeting arent that " Omg. Honestly? Personally I like people that take less time looking in the mirror that me. And believe me I take a long time plus makeup is a wonderful thing. So if a guy is so up on how he is looking so much better than the other guys on here I think he's heading to the wrong places. You need to be heading to the gay district where you'd get loads of meets for such a fit bod. I like guys that have a personality and can interact with women nicely. That's why I stick to couples. Better chance of that being the case. | |||
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"I joined this site over 5 years ago and haven't met any women. I'm young(ish), good looking, educated, a trim body and nice cock. Why do I not get any responses to messages? I can be polite or dirty it leads to the same, no response. Its a bit disheartening when those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together. Where exactly am I going wrong? I have made 3 dates in the real world in the last few days yet never anything here. It feels like the whole swinging community is just a bit stuck up and cliqy. Should I just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women? wow... that is some heavy duty running over of a lot of people in that big bus of yours right there.... maybe its because you have those opinions that people may not want to meet you..... you get out what you put in.... what effort did you put in to your "shop window to the world"... i'll leave you to figure out what I may be alluding to... heck wouldn't want an "old of shape fat dude" doing all the work for you now.. would you!!! the site gives you all the tools you need to make it work... make use of, all of them, some of them or none of them! however if you cannot be bothered to "help yourself" (again I'll leave you to work out what that may well mean) then why on earth should other people be bothered to help you? maybe the issue isn't other people.... its a lot... lot... lot closer to home!" Was wondering when you'd turn up fella | |||
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"Men on here are 10 a penny Intelligent fit guys are in abundance Arrogant tossers are everywhere Fun guys who know how to talk to a woman are in demand (I think I am in the arrogant tosser bracket) nope u have your own bracket ... what bracket is that" I d have thought with your avatar it d be obvious,,, Easter egg tossing,, | |||
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" Was wondering when you'd turn up fella the irony alarms were going off... that and the sounds of babies sceaming when an "toys throw out the pram" post goes flying by... i think everyone should give the answer "basically common sense" and those who can figure it out will... and those who can't.. tough! spoonfeeding isn't going to help those people...... " I agree....I've nicked that from you and used it in fact mate I just like when you turn up still....I feel like getting thee pom poms out....give me an F......give me an A................ | |||
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"These threads just end up churning round in circles until the content end up bitter. Unless the op takes the advice with a little humility....then I've seen them go the other way The OP will turn ghey? Possibly.....seems he might have more luck if he does..... Or failing that, learns to listen.....one of the two....... " don't mention the Ghey! We will never hear the end of it | |||
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"I was looking for advice but get criticism... Leave the fun to us overweight , uneducated cretins and leave forthwith. Your absence will be a tremendous loss to Fab but, hey, I guess we're just going to have to learn to struggle on without you. Such a shame as yiu seem such a modest and well adjusted guy....,,, " | |||
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"And after all the advice/criticism/whatever...........how much difference is there to the profile? Precisely zero! A waste of server space to offer so many tips and advice to be ignored." You beat me to it, was just about to say the same thing. Many threads like this and very few take advantage of the advice given and change their profile. Speaks volumes really. | |||
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"I joined this site over 5 years ago and haven't met any women. I'm young(ish), good looking, educated, a trim body and nice cock. Why do I not get any responses to messages? I can be polite or dirty it leads to the same, no response. Its a bit disheartening when those same women have meet verifications from out of shape guys in their 50's who can hardly string a sentence together. Where exactly am I going wrong? I have made 3 dates in the real world in the last few days yet never anything here. It feels like the whole swinging community is just a bit stuck up and cliqy. Should I just give up and stick to regular attractive non swinger women? wow... that is some heavy duty running over of a lot of people in that big bus of yours right there.... maybe its because you have those opinions that people may not want to meet you..... you get out what you put in.... what effort did you put in to your "shop window to the world"... i'll leave you to figure out what I may be alluding to... heck wouldn't want an "old of shape fat dude" doing all the work for you now.. would you!!! the site gives you all the tools you need to make it work... make use of, all of them, some of them or none of them! however if you cannot be bothered to "help yourself" (again I'll leave you to work out what that may well mean) then why on earth should other people be bothered to help you? maybe the issue isn't other people.... its a lot... lot... lot closer to home!" This sums it all up To the OP, you can only get the results from what you put in. This is not an "Instant Fix" site! You have to effectively "Sell" yourself and if after 5 alleged years of no success, whose fault is that??? You have to reinvent yourself from time to time, change your profile, update yourself, do anything to improve your chances! In life, people always recall the worst elements before the good. You certainly haven't helped your cause by whining the way you have, but you can hopefully learn from this and take the constructive criticism on the chin. Good Luck | |||
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"Basicaly the ratio is 400 men to 1 woman and women think they will meet mr gray here lol." The ratio could be 1:1 on here and I still wouldn't meet some of the men. Damn me for having standards! | |||
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"Basicaly the ratio is 400 men to 1 woman and women think they will meet mr gray here lol. The ratio could be 1:1 on here and I still wouldn't meet some of the men. Damn me for having standards! " That's me buggered then | |||
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"Basicaly the ratio is 400 men to 1 woman and women think they will meet mr gray here lol. The ratio could be 1:1 on here and I still wouldn't meet some of the men. Damn me for having standards! That's me buggered then " Aww come here , you can rest your head on my pillows if you want cos I know how much you like to sleep. | |||
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"Basicaly the ratio is 400 men to 1 woman and women think they will meet mr gray here lol. The ratio could be 1:1 on here and I still wouldn't meet some of the men. Damn me for having standards! That's me buggered then " Wayhayyy!!! | |||
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"Basicaly the ratio is 400 men to 1 woman and women think they will meet mr gray here lol. The ratio could be 1:1 on here and I still wouldn't meet some of the men. Damn me for having standards! That's me buggered then " lol. On no Rusty you're not getting away that easy! You squeezy cheezy peaser | |||
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"Basicaly the ratio is 400 men to 1 woman and women think they will meet mr gray here lol. The ratio could be 1:1 on here and I still wouldn't meet some of the men. Damn me for having standards! That's me buggered then lol. On no Rusty you're not getting away that easy! You squeezy cheezy peaser " ^lol! Rusty you should have kept your mouth shut bro! You're in for it now trust me I know! Lol! | |||
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"To be honest mate, you're whole existence on here from: a) your profile text b) public pics c) length of time without a meet d) first forum post e) inability to work out where the issue lies Is completely fucked and it's undefuckable. My best advice would be to rip it up and start again. " This is the only advice you need....you've probably got at least 50 blocks with this post. But on the bright side, you've probably had more people look at your profile in one day, than in 5 years... | |||
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"Basicaly the ratio is 400 men to 1 woman and women think they will meet mr gray here lol. The ratio could be 1:1 on here and I still wouldn't meet some of the men. Damn me for having standards! That's me buggered then lol. On no Rusty you're not getting away that easy! You squeezy cheezy peaser ^lol! Rusty you should have kept your mouth shut bro! You're in for it now trust me I know! Lol!" Cheeky bugger B (but true lol) | |||
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"And after all the advice/criticism/whatever...........how much difference is there to the profile? Precisely zero! A waste of server space to offer so many tips and advice to be ignored. You beat me to it, was just about to say the same thing. Many threads like this and very few take advantage of the advice given and change their profile. Speaks volumes really." Actually I have been out doing things. Not quite sure how that 'speaks volumes' but there you go. I will create a new profile some time soon. | |||
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"Basicaly the ratio is 400 men to 1 woman and women think they will meet mr gray here lol. The ratio could be 1:1 on here and I still wouldn't meet some of the men. Damn me for having standards! That's me buggered then lol. On no Rusty you're not getting away that easy! You squeezy cheezy peaser " Ooooo you say all the right things | |||
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