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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

thought I would start one since the speech is starting at 12.30

play nice!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"thought I would start one since the speech is starting at 12.30

play nice!!!!"

Arsoles a plenty in the chamber today then

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By *hoosy_strumpetCouple
over a year ago

W S AREA

i am watching on tv now , the national debt clock is frightening how fast its going up , i wonder how it compares to the foreign aid clock , you cant seem to find that clock

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

It's all about bingo apparently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People seem to forget we as a country are still spending more than we are generating in tax revenue. Years more austerity to come although the economic growth will help over time.

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By *reasyontheeyesMan
over a year ago

out in the sticks

Only 30 million of 65 million actually work in this country. I wonder how many of those aren't in the public sector and are therefore actually earning for the country

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Only 30 million of 65 million actually work in this country. I wonder how many of those aren't in the public sector and are therefore actually earning for the country "

When you say public sector, do you mean nurses, firefighters etc ?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

tax the ciggys

tax the booze

lower the higher rate tax...

viva the me me me culture

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Peston has just tweeted something very similar to my earlier post, do you think he might be on Fab and guilty of blatant plaguerism??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hello Onny,

"When you say public sector, do you mean nurses, firefighters etc ?"

It is a financial fact that some jobs generate wealth and some jobs do not, quite the reverse.

We need a large proportion of wealth generating jobs to pay for the essential services and if we do not have that, everyone is worse off as we have higher taxes. Simple economics which in practice is not that simple but that's the basic theory.

Have you calculated that for Scotland in _iew of your inclination for independence?

Alec

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When they keep spouting on that there are more people in work etc..its fudged figures....

Whats happened is...people have been sanctioned on jobseekers and therefore are off the chart so to speak. No new jobs around here but the arsole (pincher) ie tory a.licker reckons were swimming in them.....its all lies i tell ya

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Hello Onny,

"When you say public sector, do you mean nurses, firefighters etc ?"

It is a financial fact that some jobs generate wealth and some jobs do not, quite the reverse.

We need a large proportion of wealth generating jobs to pay for the essential services and if we do not have that, everyone is worse off as we have higher taxes. Simple economics which in practice is not that simple but that's the basic theory.

Have you calculated that for Scotland in _iew of your inclination for independence?

Alec

"

I apologise unreservedly if I've done anything to to suggest I'm inclined towards Separation.

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

some interesting things so far...

inheritance tax removed for those who die in the line of duty....

vat fuels removed for air ambulance

air passenger duty capped at the price it is to the US at the moment for anywhere in the world....

the benefits cap is going to tie labours hands a lot....

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"When they keep spouting on that there are more people in work etc..its fudged figures....

Whats happened is...people have been sanctioned on jobseekers and therefore are off the chart so to speak. No new jobs around here but the arsole (pincher) ie tory a.licker reckons were swimming in them.....its all lies i tell ya "

And people in part time or zero hours jobs don't count on the register either.

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

200 million given for a "repair potholes" fun....

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

interesting titbit for my field...

for anyone who is self employed... class 2 National insurance contributions will not be taken seperately and will now be part of self-accessment...

that is going to catch people out unwittingly i can see....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"200 million given for a "repair potholes" fun...."

I might just set up a pothole repair company!! R.S.Holes...any hole filled any time...

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

fags up....

whisky frozen

beer down....

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

personally allowance going up from 10000 to 10500....

higher rate allowance going up by 1%

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"personally allowance going up from 10000 to 10500....

higher rate allowance going up by 1%"

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

£15k ISA

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

ISA limit is going up to 15000.....

pensioner bonds to be introduced

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

what a lovely budget

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"ISA limit is going up to 15000.....

pensioner bonds to be introduced

"

A massive "please pensioners vote for us" set of policies, will prove pretty popular I suspect.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Bingo and pensioner bonds, pension pots with no caps and no need for an annuity. I wonder if they know their voters?

I can hear Wishy telling us he knew all of this was coming.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Anyone would think there's an election coming.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

how much have fags gone up by?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"Anyone would think there's an election coming."

they have mine

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Anyone would think there's an election coming."

Very little about the austerity cuts that come in from April.

If the growth forecasts are correct that is good news.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything in the world is great.....because the f...ing tories have lowered the bingo duty/tax. WTF !!!

I despair i really do and no they aint got my vote.....

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"Everything in the world is great.....because the f...ing tories have lowered the bingo duty/tax. WTF !!!

I despair i really do and no they aint got my vote..... "

Now Peaches, were they ever going to get it

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Bingo and pensioner bonds, pension pots with no caps and no need for an annuity. I wonder if they know their voters?

I can hear Wishy telling us he knew all of this was coming.

"

Bingo levy was always way too high....

Pensioner bond will be interesting depending on what rate they set them out.. because people will take money out of banks and put them there instead... unless banks now respond by increasing saving rates...

pension pots with no annuity is an interesting concept... especially the 55% levy going so it will be 20% instead for most

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everything in the world is great.....because the f...ing tories have lowered the bingo duty/tax. WTF !!!

I despair i really do and no they aint got my vote.....

Now Peaches, were they ever going to get it "

Yerrrrr right in the mush oh you mean me vote...........no way jose....would rather dig up screaming lord such

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford


"how much have fags gone up by? "

How much is 2% above inflation?

How much does that make fags n baccy these days?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Bingo and pensioner bonds, pension pots with no caps and no need for an annuity. I wonder if they know their voters?

I can hear Wishy telling us he knew all of this was coming.

Bingo levy was always way too high....

Pensioner bond will be interesting depending on what rate they set them out.. because people will take money out of banks and put them there instead... unless banks now respond by increasing saving rates...

pension pots with no annuity is an interesting concept... especially the 55% levy going so it will be 20% instead for most

"

I wonder what the effect of loss of profit on selling annuities will have on the pension industry?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

off to buy myself a little treat: thanks George x

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Is Georgie positioning himself as the next leader and PM?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"off to buy myself a little treat: thanks George x"

I think Danny might have helped a bit too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Milliband giving it a real go in response, you have to love a tryer!

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"off to buy myself a little treat: thanks George x

I think Danny might have helped a bit too. "

and him, Danny x

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Milliband giving it a real go in response, you have to love a tryer!"

It's too short on detail to be effective. The Deputy Speaker is doing his best to bring the House to order.

Ed Balls and Georgie Boy joking around during PMQs and continuing now during Ed Miliband won't help either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Milliband giving it a real go in response, you have to love a tryer!

It's too short on detail to be effective. The Deputy Speaker is doing his best to bring the House to order.

Ed Balls and Georgie Boy joking around during PMQs and continuing now during Ed Miliband won't help either.

"

It is short on detail because the electorate knows that Labour caused the mess and while many don't like it the Tories have done a reasonable job of sorting it out. He is going to have to find some real policies on which to base his election campaign because he won't win the economic debate.

As for Balls and Osborne, childish beyond belief.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Is Georgie positioning himself as the next leader and PM?

"

he'll be lucky, Theresa and Boris are probably preferable for the tory hierarchy..

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Milliband giving it a real go in response, you have to love a tryer!

It's too short on detail to be effective. The Deputy Speaker is doing his best to bring the House to order.

Ed Balls and Georgie Boy joking around during PMQs and continuing now during Ed Miliband won't help either.

It is short on detail because the electorate knows that Labour caused the mess and while many don't like it the Tories have done a reasonable job of sorting it out. He is going to have to find some real policies on which to base his election campaign because he won't win the economic debate.

As for Balls and Osborne, childish beyond belief."

If he is offering so much jam to core Tory voters now what will he offer next March, immediately before the election?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Is Georgie positioning himself as the next leader and PM?

he'll be lucky, Theresa and Boris are probably preferable for the tory hierarchy.."

BoJo has the problem of still having to run London. Does Ms May have enough support to be leader?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Milliband giving it a real go in response, you have to love a tryer!

It's too short on detail to be effective. The Deputy Speaker is doing his best to bring the House to order.

Ed Balls and Georgie Boy joking around during PMQs and continuing now during Ed Miliband won't help either.

It is short on detail because the electorate knows that Labour caused the mess and while many don't like it the Tories have done a reasonable job of sorting it out. He is going to have to find some real policies on which to base his election campaign because he won't win the economic debate.

As for Balls and Osborne, childish beyond belief.

If he is offering so much jam to core Tory voters now what will he offer next March, immediately before the election?

"

Well given they wouldn't be drawn by the direct question from Milliband, we know the answer, a top rate income tax cut!!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Only 30 million of 65 million actually work in this country. I wonder how many of those aren't in the public sector and are therefore actually earning for the country "

a strange and slightly naïve _iew of what some of those in the public sector do 'contribute'..

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Milliband giving it a real go in response, you have to love a tryer!

It's too short on detail to be effective. The Deputy Speaker is doing his best to bring the House to order.

Ed Balls and Georgie Boy joking around during PMQs and continuing now during Ed Miliband won't help either.

It is short on detail because the electorate knows that Labour caused the mess and while many don't like it the Tories have done a reasonable job of sorting it out. He is going to have to find some real policies on which to base his election campaign because he won't win the economic debate.

As for Balls and Osborne, childish beyond belief.

If he is offering so much jam to core Tory voters now what will he offer next March, immediately before the election?

Well given they wouldn't be drawn by the direct question from Milliband, we know the answer, a top rate income tax cut!!"

That one is obvious but they will still have to win over enough of the apathetic to have a single party government. Although I think they'd like to keep Danny.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only 30 million of 65 million actually work in this country. I wonder how many of those aren't in the public sector and are therefore actually earning for the country

a strange and slightly naïve _iew of what some of those in the public sector do 'contribute'.."

I don't think the contribution is in doubt, it was more a point I think, about the numbers of those employed who contribute towards economic growth, and that could keep us debating for hours!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Milliband giving it a real go in response, you have to love a tryer!

It's too short on detail to be effective. The Deputy Speaker is doing his best to bring the House to order.

Ed Balls and Georgie Boy joking around during PMQs and continuing now during Ed Miliband won't help either.

It is short on detail because the electorate knows that Labour caused the mess and while many don't like it the Tories have done a reasonable job of sorting it out. He is going to have to find some real policies on which to base his election campaign because he won't win the economic debate.

As for Balls and Osborne, childish beyond belief.

If he is offering so much jam to core Tory voters now what will he offer next March, immediately before the election?

Well given they wouldn't be drawn by the direct question from Milliband, we know the answer, a top rate income tax cut!!

That one is obvious but they will still have to win over enough of the apathetic to have a single party government. Although I think they'd like to keep Danny.

"

I suspect he will have to become a Tory if you want that to happen! I think the Lib Dems could get wiped out.

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

I only have to drink 100 pints of Beer and I ll be a £1 better off, (hic)

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I only have to drink 100 pints of Beer and I ll be a £1 better off, (hic)"

Don't forget to save that £1. This was the budget for savers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love the picture circulating today.....osborne sat with his arm around a "sex worker" whose speciality was sado masichism....she like may others have the uncontrollable urge to punch his lights out

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

pension pots with no annuity is an interesting concept... especially the 55% levy going so it will be 20% instead for most

I wonder what the effect of loss of profit on selling annuities will have on the pension industry?

"

this may well be the biggest question mark .... the shares in insurance companies dropped today on this news...

the other question is going to be "who is giving out the free independent advice" that osbourne committed to,

is it going to be government setting up a new dept within the pension service... which may well be what the DWP would like to link it with flat rate pensions...

or outsource it to the voluntary sector someone like MAS (Money Advisory Service)

or even pay IFA's to do the work...

the devil is going to be in the detail....

speaking for myself in the job i do.. i'd quite like to do that!

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By *0hnnyBrav0Man
over a year ago

Great Wyrley


"how much have fags gone up by? "

on the radio driving home it was said the increase will add about 28-30 pence to a packet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone would think there's an election coming."

there is, european elections where the tories are worried about losing votes to ukip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone would think there's an election coming.

there is, european elections where the tories are worried about losing votes to ukip"

And where the lib dems wont exist anymore

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Best part of the whole budget was Milliband playing the Westminster version of wheres wally..... wheres Gove the wally

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I've only just seen the Tory "bingo and beer" advert about the the budget. The things that aren't a spoof really are getting surreal.

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