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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Should it be stooped to all those earning more than £30k per annum either singularly or jointly?

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

wouldnt matter as the new allawance for child care of £2000 per child per annum for those earning upto £300k will more than make up for the loss of child benefit

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I would rather cap it and give any savings to people who have a lower income. Working poverty is a terrible thing for people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should it be stooped to all those earning more than £30k per annum either singularly or jointly?"

No 30 grand between a couple isn't a massive double income.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx"

Unless you get made redundant like me

Not that easy

P s

Child benefit is not like being on benefits .........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx"

Having never had children, I do wonder why I have to subsidise them in so many ways. It is, generally, a life choice and one that should not be paid for by others, surely.

A safety net is required ... But I pay for their education, child benefit and this too.

I can understand the historical basis when we had to rebuild our nation but now that we are a crowded island I cannot see why money is spent in this manner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx

Having never had children, I do wonder why I have to subsidise them in so many ways. It is, generally, a life choice and one that should not be paid for by others, surely.

A safety net is required ... But I pay for their education, child benefit and this too.

I can understand the historical basis when we had to rebuild our nation but now that we are a crowded island I cannot see why money is spent in this manner."

I see what your saying but as a non smoker I may end up paying for your hospital treatment if you were to get a smoking related illness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"wouldnt matter as the new allawance for child care of £2000 per child per annum for those earning upto £300k will more than make up for the loss of child benefit "

They are increasing the child care but closing down children's centres how does that work when having to travel x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They should reduce it as they do with all other benefits, why should some get less and some on other benefit get more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx

Having never had children, I do wonder why I have to subsidise them in so many ways. It is, generally, a life choice and one that should not be paid for by others, surely.

A safety net is required ... But I pay for their education, child benefit and this too.

I can understand the historical basis when we had to rebuild our nation but now that we are a crowded island I cannot see why money is spent in this manner.

I see what you are saying but as a non smoker I may end up paying for your hospital treatment if you were to get a smoking related illness."

A little off subject but I do accept the point. At the same time, i do contribute substantially in terms of the tax I pay on cigarettes. Perhaps parents should pay more bearing in mind the benefits they receive towards their children? I believe that the education system alone is somewhat expensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx

Having never had children, I do wonder why I have to subsidise them in so many ways. It is, generally, a life choice and one that should not be paid for by others, surely.

A safety net is required ... But I pay for their education, child benefit and this too.

I can understand the historical basis when we had to rebuild our nation but now that we are a crowded island I cannot see why money is spent in this manner.

I see what you are saying but as a non smoker I may end up paying for your hospital treatment if you were to get a smoking related illness.

A little off subject but I do accept the point. At the same time, i do contribute substantially in terms of the tax I pay on cigarettes. Perhaps parents should pay more bearing in mind the benefits they receive towards their children? I believe that the education system alone is somewhat expensive."

I don't think they should pay more I feel the new terms they are proposing are fair.I don't have children and im not planning on having any!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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I don't think they should pay more I feel the new terms they are proposing are fair.I don't have children and im not planning on having any!!"

Why do you think it is fair on childless folk? I appreciate that many taxation decisions are a compromise but is this not blatant electioneering? With it not being means-tested beyond the £300k mark?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx

Having never had children, I do wonder why I have to subsidise them in so many ways. It is, generally, a life choice and one that should not be paid for by others, surely.

A safety net is required ... But I pay for their education, child benefit and this too.

I can understand the historical basis when we had to rebuild our nation but now that we are a crowded island I cannot see why money is spent in this manner."

I am a single parent and have worked all the way through and have paid towards my two solo no CSA. Wages, child benefit and tax credits I had to give up work two and a half years ago and my doctor will not sign me off I am currently living on ESA it is a struggle but manageable to live I save my child benefit for clothing, birthdays and Christmas so saying people pay for there own children it is not always that easy and this is what the welfare state is for. For help for those who need it or a stop gap for those who need it not a lifestyle choice and I agree that those who are on benefits indefinitely through generations is wrong and these are the cases that need to be looked at. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh yeah its a blatant attempt to win votes!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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A safety net is required ...

I am a single parent and have worked all the way through and have paid towards my two solo no CSA. Wages, child benefit and tax credits I had to give up work two and a half years ago and my doctor will not sign me off I am currently living on ESA it is a struggle but manageable to live I save my child benefit for clothing, birthdays and Christmas so saying people pay for there own children it is not always that easy and this is what the welfare state is for. For help for those who need it or a stop gap for those who need it not a lifestyle choice and I agree that those who are on benefits indefinitely through generations is wrong and these are the cases that need to be looked at. x"

I appreciate your situation. Not being a parent, I probably can't put myself in your shoes. I am not being unsympathetic. I just feel that sweeping policy changes without regard to personal financial circumstances are unjustified. I know that many parents have it hard but believe me so do single folk. And, in this instance, yes it is electioneering.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I would rather cap it and give any savings to people who have a lower income. Working poverty is a terrible thing for people.

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But the savings wouldn't go to lower earners. It's Gideon we're talking about here.

Any saving would go to tax cuts for high earners.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

A safety net is required ...

I am a single parent and have worked all the way through and have paid towards my two solo no CSA. Wages, child benefit and tax credits I had to give up work two and a half years ago and my doctor will not sign me off I am currently living on ESA it is a struggle but manageable to live I save my child benefit for clothing, birthdays and Christmas so saying people pay for there own children it is not always that easy and this is what the welfare state is for. For help for those who need it or a stop gap for those who need it not a lifestyle choice and I agree that those who are on benefits indefinitely through generations is wrong and these are the cases that need to be looked at. x

I appreciate your situation. Not being a parent, I probably can't put myself in your shoes. I am not being unsympathetic. I just feel that sweeping policy changes without regard to personal financial circumstances are unjustified. I know that many parents have it hard but believe me so do single folk. And, in this instance, yes it is electioneering."

I appreciate what you are saying but you only have yourself to look after I can count countless times where I have gone without food, clothing, hair cuts not talking luxuries etc and give to my children that is what being a parent is about just look at the food poverty in this country it is disgusting and this is not just for people on benefits but for working parents too. Who go out and do a full days work yet cant afford to feed themselves the system sucks and this is the UK not a third world country x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Electioneering? I understood that it would not become policy until after the next election. Decide for yourselves.

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By *issLissCouple
over a year ago

south east

This is ridiculous to say you don't want to pay for other peoples children.

I am a full time working single mum and I need child benefits to pay my bills. It wasn't a choice I was given - it was life what happened and I faced my responsibilities and I work bloody hard. It doesn't even cover a quarter of their childcare cost so I can actually go to work.

I'd happily give money to a working family.

More should be cut towards fat fucks who constantly eat shit and then put a strain the NHS. Or what about your tax money going towards couples who can't naturally conceive and get free treatments to have children? Or lazy uni students on the dole who think they are to good to work in a call centre or as a cleaner. Did you know the government pays companies up to 5k a month for keeping someone on ESA employed! Wtf is that?!

There are so many worthless arseholes putting a strain on tax money - kids are not one of them!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is ridiculous to say you don't want to pay for other peoples children.

I am a full time working single mum and I need child benefits to pay my bills. It wasn't a choice I was given - it was life what happened and I faced my responsibilities and I work bloody hard. It doesn't even cover a quarter of their childcare cost so I can actually go to work.

I'd happily give money to a working family.

More should be cut towards fat fucks who constantly eat shit and then put a strain the NHS. Or what about your tax money going towards couples who can't naturally conceive and get free treatments to have children? Or lazy uni students on the dole who think they are to good to work in a call centre or as a cleaner. Did you know the government pays companies up to 5k a month for keeping someone on ESA employed! Wtf is that?!

There are so many worthless arseholes putting a strain on tax money - kids are not one of them!! "

Whoop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx"

Because kids today are going to pay the taxes to pay for your extended retirement as you live longer, same as taxes today pay for retirement of those before us...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Electioneering? I understood that it would not become policy until after the next election. Decide for yourselves."

Jam tomorrow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe the children are our future

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By *bfoxxxMan
over a year ago

Crete or LANCASTER


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx

Having never had children, I do wonder why I have to subsidise them in so many ways. It is, generally, a life choice and one that should not be paid for by others, surely.

A safety net is required ... But I pay for their education, child benefit and this too.

I can understand the historical basis when we had to rebuild our nation but now that we are a crowded island I cannot see why money is spent in this manner."
agreed. You should get a massive tax rebate.

Why not do childcare like student loans?

I'm sure that would be a massive cock up.

Isn't it Cameron buying votes?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is ridiculous to say you don't want to pay for other peoples children.

I am a full time working single mum and I need child benefits to pay my bills. It wasn't a choice I was given - it was life what happened and I faced my responsibilities and I work bloody hard. It doesn't even cover a quarter of their childcare cost so I can actually go to work.

I'd happily give money to a working family.

More should be cut towards fat fucks who constantly eat shit and then put a strain the NHS. Or what about your tax money going towards couples who can't naturally conceive and get free treatments to have children? Or lazy uni students on the dole who think they are to good to work in a call centre or as a cleaner. Did you know the government pays companies up to 5k a month for keeping someone on ESA employed! Wtf is that?!

There are so many worthless arseholes putting a strain on tax money - kids are not one of them!! "

MissLiss,

When are you announcing the constituency you're standing in? An MP. I could vote for without feeling icky dirty...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is ridiculous to say you don't want to pay for other peoples children.

I am a full time working single mum and I need child benefits to pay my bills. It wasn't a choice I was given - it was life what happened and I faced my responsibilities and I work bloody hard. It doesn't even cover a quarter of their childcare cost so I can actually go to work.

I'd happily give money to a working family.

More should be cut towards fat fucks who constantly eat shit and then put a strain the NHS. Or what about your tax money going towards couples who can't naturally conceive and get free treatments to have children? Or lazy uni students on the dole who think they are to good to work in a call centre or as a cleaner. Did you know the government pays companies up to 5k a month for keeping someone on ESA employed! Wtf is that?!

There are so many worthless arseholes putting a strain on tax money - kids are not one of them!! "

just to point out, uni students cannot be on the dole unless they are disabled or care for ayoung child in receipt of high lender care ccomponent of disability living allowance.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Why is it a ridiculous thing to say...

And please note my earlier reply, but it could still be a valid _iew from a childless person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

A safety net is required ...

I appreciate what you are saying but you only have yourself to look after x "

I did say that a safety net is required. I am not fascist. And please do not make assumptions. I had a disabled wife to support financially for a decade without any help from the state so I do know what it is like to struggle.

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By *issLissCouple
over a year ago

south east


"This is ridiculous to say you don't want to pay for other peoples children.

I am a full time working single mum and I need child benefits to pay my bills. It wasn't a choice I was given - it was life what happened and I faced my responsibilities and I work bloody hard. It doesn't even cover a quarter of their childcare cost so I can actually go to work.

I'd happily give money to a working family.

More should be cut towards fat fucks who constantly eat shit and then put a strain the NHS. Or what about your tax money going towards couples who can't naturally conceive and get free treatments to have children? Or lazy uni students on the dole who think they are to good to work in a call centre or as a cleaner. Did you know the government pays companies up to 5k a month for keeping someone on ESA employed! Wtf is that?!

There are so many worthless arseholes putting a strain on tax money - kids are not one of them!!

MissLiss,

When are you announcing the constituency you're standing in? An MP. I could vote for without feeling icky dirty..."

Haha least if I was a MP I may get paid a decent wage and not have to work so many hours... Not a bad option

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By *issLissCouple
over a year ago

south east


"This is ridiculous to say you don't want to pay for other peoples children.

I am a full time working single mum and I need child benefits to pay my bills. It wasn't a choice I was given - it was life what happened and I faced my responsibilities and I work bloody hard. It doesn't even cover a quarter of their childcare cost so I can actually go to work.

I'd happily give money to a working family.

More should be cut towards fat fucks who constantly eat shit and then put a strain the NHS. Or what about your tax money going towards couples who can't naturally conceive and get free treatments to have children? Or lazy uni students on the dole who think they are to good to work in a call centre or as a cleaner. Did you know the government pays companies up to 5k a month for keeping someone on ESA employed! Wtf is that?!

There are so many worthless arseholes putting a strain on tax money - kids are not one of them!!

just to point out, uni students cannot be on the dole unless they are disabled or care for ayoung child in receipt of high lender care ccomponent of disability living allowance. "

Apologises.... I meant uni grads or lazy school leavers, chavs etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is ridiculous to say you don't want to pay for other peoples children.

I am a full time working single mum and I need child benefits to pay my bills. It wasn't a choice I was given - it was life what happened and I faced my responsibilities and I work bloody hard. It doesn't even cover a quarter of their childcare cost so I can actually go to work.

I'd happily give money to a working family.

More should be cut towards fat fucks who constantly eat shit and then put a strain the NHS. Or what about your tax money going towards couples who can't naturally conceive and get free treatments to have children? Or lazy uni students on the dole who think they are to good to work in a call centre or as a cleaner. Did you know the government pays companies up to 5k a month for keeping someone on ESA employed! Wtf is that?!

There are so many worthless arseholes putting a strain on tax money - kids are not one of them!!

MissLiss,

When are you announcing the constituency you're standing in? An MP. I could vote for without feeling icky dirty...

Haha least if I was a MP I may get paid a decent wage and not have to work so many hours... Not a bad option "

Fuck it, do it... You'd have to be upfront cos there's so many skeletons on here so an intelligent approachable human MP? Well there's a first time for everything...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"The scale of Britain's growing inequality is revealed by a report from a leading charity showing that the country's five richest families now own more wealth than the poorest 20% of the population."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cameron is finishing what Thatcher started ....

Them and us mentality and those who think they are doing ok are his henchmen ...

Shops closing... Food banks increasing ... You decide !!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is ridiculous to say you don't want to pay for other peoples children...

There are so many worthless arseholes putting a strain on tax money - kids are not one of them!! "

To Add:

David Cameron Pay 2013 £142,500

Your MP (if not a minister, Ministers get £90,000) 66,396

http://www.parliament.uk/about/faqs/house-of-commons-faqs/members-faq-page2/

The UK spends 60.8 Billion on war last year alone. That's £60,800,000,000

Spending on NHS was 95.6b and Education 49bn Job seekers allowance was only five. So with a 10% cut back in aggressive and and illogical defence actions JSA could be doubled overnight

Child tax credits and child benefit could also be doubled by a simple 20% cut in defence. We currently spent about 12b a year on it.

But y'know blowing up kids so they dont turn too islamic or socialist or russian is the most important thing to the politicos as per ever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx

Because kids today are going to pay the taxes to pay for your extended retirement as you live longer, same as taxes today pay for retirement of those before us... "

Also. Do you know how much of your taxes go towards child benefit. I'll bet it's a teeny tiny fraction and nothing to get your knickers in a twist about.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I thought it was capped at 45k or am i thinking of something else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx"

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx

Because kids today are going to pay the taxes to pay for your extended retirement as you live longer, same as taxes today pay for retirement of those before us...

Also. Do you know how much of your taxes go towards child benefit. I'll bet it's a teeny tiny fraction and nothing to get your knickers in a twist about.

"

It's rarely the amount which prompts complaints. It more often the fact that someone else is getting something the complainant isn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx

Because kids today are going to pay the taxes to pay for your extended retirement as you live longer, same as taxes today pay for retirement of those before us...

Also. Do you know how much of your taxes go towards child benefit. I'll bet it's a teeny tiny fraction and nothing to get your knickers in a twist about.

It's rarely the amount which prompts complaints. It more often the fact that someone else is getting something the complainant isn't."

They should think about who will take care of them when they are old

X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx

Because kids today are going to pay the taxes to pay for your extended retirement as you live longer, same as taxes today pay for retirement of those before us...

Also. Do you know how much of your taxes go towards child benefit. I'll bet it's a teeny tiny fraction and nothing to get your knickers in a twist about.

It's rarely the amount which prompts complaints. It more often the fact that someone else is getting something the complainant isn't.

They should think about who will take care of them when they are old

X"

Spot on S&A.. Taxes are used to pay for those who come before and those following.. Very little is purely for the here & now...:

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Child benefit is a payment not a benefit as such. Its not a fortune. It's only in the last few years that the government has looked where it can reduce it hence the income is looked at. High incomes over 50k maybe don't need it but I do. I figure any one on benefits is worse off than me so the one thing I'm entitled to I'd like to keep.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Child benefit is a payment not a benefit as such. Its not a fortune. It's only in the last few years that the government has looked where it can reduce it hence the income is looked at. High incomes over 50k maybe don't need it but I do. I figure any one on benefits is worse off than me so the one thing I'm entitled to I'd like to keep. "

You don't think there's a hint in the name?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are much bigger drains on the public purse than Child Benefit. Seems a little selfish of OP (i don't get it so why should others etc...)

Maybe as a tax paying person you should be getting annoyed at the tax dodgers costing this country many billions a year in unpaid taxes, and the cost of tracking them down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should it be stooped to all those earning more than £30k per annum either singularly or jointly?"

30k is no longer a liveable wage in most areas. Especially not for a couple.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol


"There are much bigger drains on the public purse than Child Benefit. Seems a little selfish of OP (i don't get it so why should others etc...) "

i dont quite follow how the OP was being selfish ...he simply asked a question

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

oh god ... another thread where the politics of jealousy and envy are played out ...... " i have a hard life so i deserve something but those over there are feckless and they should have stuff taken off them blah blah blahdy blah .... "

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By *lassyandadventurousMan
over a year ago

England and Wales

Typical british attitude this one.

I work sixty hours a week and deserve as much child benefit as the lazy benefit chasers

Why should the lazy be rewarded more than hard working folk?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx

Because kids today are going to pay the taxes to pay for your extended retirement as you live longer, same as taxes today pay for retirement of those before us...

Also. Do you know how much of your taxes go towards child benefit. I'll bet it's a teeny tiny fraction and nothing to get your knickers in a twist about.

It's rarely the amount which prompts complaints. It more often the fact that someone else is getting something the complainant isn't.

They should think about who will take care of them when they are old

X"

I intend to look after myself. With not having kids I'll be able to save some money for a nice retirement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I didn't get child benefit I couldn't afford to get to work, would have to give up work and cost the tax payer hell of a lot more money in benefits than they currently pay me in child benefit. Lets not forget these children that child benefit is paid fir are the workers of the future. Those that have bleated 'if you can't afford children blah blah' seen to forget these kids will be paying taxes in the future which will be paying for the nhs etc which no doubt you will be using in your old age.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If I didn't get child benefit I couldn't afford to get to work, would have to give up work and cost the tax payer hell of a lot more money in benefits than they currently pay me in child benefit. Lets not forget these children that child benefit is paid fir are the workers of the future. Those that have bleated 'if you can't afford children blah blah' seen to forget these kids will be paying taxes in the future which will be paying for the nhs etc which no doubt you will be using in your old age. "
Well said that lady...............run for president or maybe the Queen!

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

of course, some of us will have private pensions that will be taxed and paying for our own future...

but heart warming that the old are being thought of.

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By *aisy100Woman
over a year ago

wakefield


"of course, some of us will have private pensions that will be taxed and paying for our own future...

but heart warming that the old are being thought of. "

I agree, I also agree with people who say they dont want to "pay for other peoples children" having children is a choice... growing old and elderly related ilnesess are NOT, also these people paying tax are indeed paying into the NHS for treatment they may need.

Oh and child benefit.... is a benefit!

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"of course, some of us will have private pensions that will be taxed and paying for our own future...

but heart warming that the old are being thought of.

I agree, I also agree with people who say they dont want to "pay for other peoples children" having children is a choice... growing old and elderly related ilnesess are NOT, also these people paying tax are indeed paying into the NHS for treatment they may need.

Oh and child benefit.... is a benefit!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx

Having never had children, I do wonder why I have to subsidise them in so many ways. It is, generally, a life choice and one that should not be paid for by others, surely.

A safety net is required ... But I pay for their education, child benefit and this too.

I can understand the historical basis when we had to rebuild our nation but now that we are a crowded island I cannot see why money is spent in this manner.

I see what your saying but as a non smoker I may end up paying for your hospital treatment if you were to get a smoking related illness."

No you won't smoking makes the government a considerable profit even after health care costs through the high taxation. Actually their smoking is subsidising you once everyone's quit we're gonna have to raise roughly another 10 billion in tax every year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should it be stooped to all those earning more than £30k per annum either singularly or jointly?"

30k isn't a great deal nowadays. especially in the South East

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If I didn't get child benefit I couldn't afford to get to work, would have to give up work and cost the tax payer hell of a lot more money in benefits than they currently pay me in child benefit. Lets not forget these children that child benefit is paid fir are the workers of the future. Those that have bleated 'if you can't afford children blah blah' seen to forget these kids will be paying taxes in the future which will be paying for the nhs etc which no doubt you will be using in your old age. "

Except that's not true as on average they will be a net loss to the country not a gain.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Should it be stooped to all those earning more than £30k per annum either singularly or jointly?

30k isn't a great deal nowadays. especially in the South East"

you are right... I wouldn't have the cap quite that low...

but I do believe if you are paying 40% tax... you dont really need the child benefit....

so i would bring the current level down....

see... happy medium... piss off everyone!!!

the childcare credit that is going to be announced today isn't going to help all people...

it doesn't apply to one parent families...

in two parent families, both have to be working....

joint income of 300k..... really does it have to be that high? if it was lets say 100k... I might argue that would be fine...

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By *ustcutieWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh

As it started around 1945 I'm pretty sure most people complaining about it have also benefitted from it too.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx

Having never had children, I do wonder why I have to subsidise them in so many ways. It is, generally, a life choice and one that should not be paid for by others, surely.

A safety net is required ... But I pay for their education, child benefit and this too.

I can understand the historical basis when we had to rebuild our nation but now that we are a crowded island I cannot see why money is spent in this manner.

I see what your saying but as a non smoker I may end up paying for your hospital treatment if you were to get a smoking related illness.

No you won't smoking makes the government a considerable profit even after health care costs through the high taxation. Actually their smoking is subsidising you once everyone's quit we're gonna have to raise roughly another 10 billion in tax every year. "

Ok well thanks to all the smokers for subsidising me!!

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over a year ago

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Oh and child benefit.... is a benefit!"

actually... yes, technically it is now.... however it wasn't....

it is/was a universal payment paid to anyone without reference to earnings or savings

it only technically now offically called a benefit because of the "60,000 pound single earner threshold"... so that it now counts as being means-tested....

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I remember Family Allowance from the time my wee brother was born and it was paid via a book over the counter in the post office.

The good thing was that the book was in the mother's name, increasing the chance of the cash reaching the child. I suspect a lot of Child Benefit is paid into joint accounts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Child benefit for my kids goes direct into a Bank Account in their names for them to have access to when they are 21 - unless they need it before for a wedding etc........

Not to buy a car or a holiday !!!!!!!!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Child benefit for my kids goes direct into a Bank Account in their names for them to have access to when they are 21 - unless they need it before for a wedding etc........

Not to buy a car or a holiday !!!!!!!!"

Far be it for me .... but with interest rates as they are , I'd be buying them Premium Bonds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Child benefit for my kids goes direct into a Bank Account in their names for them to have access to when they are 21 - unless they need it before for a wedding etc........

Not to buy a car or a holiday !!!!!!!!"

We've done the same. My son is now at Uni and I'm using the child benefit for his pocket money. It won't stretch the full three years but it has certainly helped.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why the fuck should I pay for other people's kids when I decided I could not afford them or a dog x you want kids you fucking save up and pay for them xxx"

i have two kids and im with you on this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Child benefit for my kids goes direct into a Bank Account in their names for them to have access to when they are 21 - unless they need it before for a wedding etc........

Not to buy a car or a holiday !!!!!!!!"

Must admit im changing my opinion on these benefits,I assumed that the benefits would be used for essentials as they grow up,not so they can go on the piss at university or have a nice wedding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is ridiculous to say you don't want to pay for other peoples children.

I am a full time working single mum and I need child benefits to pay my bills. It wasn't a choice I was given - it was life what happened and I faced my responsibilities and I work bloody hard. It doesn't even cover a quarter of their childcare cost so I can actually go to work.

I'd happily give money to a working family.

More should be cut towards fat fucks who constantly eat shit and then put a strain the NHS. Or what about your tax money going towards couples who can't naturally conceive and get free treatments to have children? Or lazy uni students on the dole who think they are to good to work in a call centre or as a cleaner. Did you know the government pays companies up to 5k a month for keeping someone on ESA employed! Wtf is that?!

There are so many worthless arseholes putting a strain on tax money - kids are not one of them!! "

Well said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Child benefit for my kids goes direct into a Bank Account in their names for them to have access to when they are 21 - unless they need it before for a wedding etc........

Not to buy a car or a holiday !!!!!!!!

Must admit im changing my opinion on these benefits,I assumed that the benefits would be used for essentials as they grow up,not so they can go on the piss at university or have a nice wedding."

I see my child's education as an essential.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Child benefit for my kids goes direct into a Bank Account in their names for them to have access to when they are 21 - unless they need it before for a wedding etc........

Not to buy a car or a holiday !!!!!!!!

Must admit im changing my opinion on these benefits,I assumed that the benefits would be used for essentials as they grow up,not so they can go on the piss at university or have a nice wedding."

For some, perhaps many, it IS used for essentials but unless you know details of every household's finances, you can't know which is which.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Child benefit for my kids goes direct into a Bank Account in their names for them to have access to when they are 21 - unless they need it before for a wedding etc........

Not to buy a car or a holiday !!!!!!!!

Must admit im changing my opinion on these benefits,I assumed that the benefits would be used for essentials as they grow up,not so they can go on the piss at university or have a nice wedding.

For some, perhaps many, it IS used for essentials but unless you know details of every household's finances, you can't know which is which."

Very true!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Child benefit for my kids goes direct into a Bank Account in their names for them to have access to when they are 21 - unless they need it before for a wedding etc........

Not to buy a car or a holiday !!!!!!!!

Must admit im changing my opinion on these benefits,I assumed that the benefits would be used for essentials as they grow up,not so they can go on the piss at university or have a nice wedding."

I earn enough money to pay for the day to day stuff etc and the child benefit is a bonus. After my next pay rise I stop getting child benefits anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Child benefit for my kids goes direct into a Bank Account in their names for them to have access to when they are 21 - unless they need it before for a wedding etc........

Not to buy a car or a holiday !!!!!!!!

Must admit im changing my opinion on these benefits,I assumed that the benefits would be used for essentials as they grow up,not so they can go on the piss at university or have a nice wedding."

This is why benefits should be paid out to a card that can only be used for food clothes etc

Not booze, fags, gambling, tv's sky or xboxs

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By *oulou45Woman
over a year ago

Bucks


"I would rather cap it and give any savings to people who have a lower income. Working poverty is a terrible thing for people.

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By *oulou45Woman
over a year ago

Bucks

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Child benefit for my kids goes direct into a Bank Account in their names for them to have access to when they are 21 - unless they need it before for a wedding etc........

Not to buy a car or a holiday !!!!!!!!

Must admit im changing my opinion on these benefits,I assumed that the benefits would be used for essentials as they grow up,not so they can go on the piss at university or have a nice wedding.

This is why benefits should be paid out to a card that can only be used for food clothes etc

Not booze, fags, gambling, tv's sky or xboxs"

Such a system, were it ever to be introduced, would be wide open to abuse with some people choosing to sell on £1 worth of food for 50p worth of drink.

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By *oulou45Woman
over a year ago

Bucks


"If I didn't get child benefit I couldn't afford to get to work, would have to give up work and cost the tax payer hell of a lot more money in benefits than they currently pay me in child benefit. Lets not forget these children that child benefit is paid fir are the workers of the future. Those that have bleated 'if you can't afford children blah blah' seen to forget these kids will be paying taxes in the future which will be paying for the nhs etc which no doubt you will be using in your old age. "

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By *aitinkCouple
over a year ago

York

We often forget the original purpose of the Child allowance. It wasn't a tax break for families, it was a means of ensuring that women received some money for the children as many men never handed over money from their pay packet for sufficient housekeeping. The original allowance could only be paid directly into the woman's bank account, not the man's. Now it is bundled into the whole tax assessment - score one for the men. This allowance should have been left alone in its original form and should have been indexed for inflation - this problem has not gone away.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

The original purpose was to supplement the income of mothers whose husbands didn't come back from WWII.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We often forget the original purpose of the Child allowance. It wasn't a tax break for families, it was a means of ensuring that women received some money for the children as many men never handed over money from their pay packet for sufficient housekeeping. The original allowance could only be paid directly into the woman's bank account, not the man's. Now it is bundled into the whole tax assessment - score one for the men. This allowance should have been left alone in its original form and should have been indexed for inflation - this problem has not gone away."

I can't believe child benefit was introduced because some men were tight with their wages. Surely this is not a government matter and should be sorted between the individuals. I think Onny's version is probably the most likely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Typical british attitude this one.

I work sixty hours a week and deserve as much child benefit as the lazy benefit chasers

Why should the lazy be rewarded more than hard working folk?"

This is quite true - there's very little incentive to study hard and work hard in the UK these days. The more you work, the more you're paid, the less financial help you get and you end up being no better off than someone who chooses multitudinous breeding and not working.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We often forget the original purpose of the Child allowance. It wasn't a tax break for families, it was a means of ensuring that women received some money for the children as many men never handed over money from their pay packet for sufficient housekeeping. The original allowance could only be paid directly into the woman's bank account, not the man's. Now it is bundled into the whole tax assessment - score one for the men. This allowance should have been left alone in its original form and should have been indexed for inflation - this problem has not gone away."

No it wasn't.

And more importantly why the hell do you think it's only mothers who spend on the child or look after them?

Or that a mother is more likely to spend the money on the child than her self

heck a quick Google or face book search for posts from women receiving child support from men will show that a great deal of them do not spend it on the children but on themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Child benefit for my kids goes direct into a Bank Account in their names for them to have access to when they are 21 - unless they need it before for a wedding etc........

Not to buy a car or a holiday !!!!!!!!

Must admit im changing my opinion on these benefits,I assumed that the benefits would be used for essentials as they grow up,not so they can go on the piss at university or have a nice wedding.

This is why benefits should be paid out to a card that can only be used for food clothes etc

Not booze, fags, gambling, tv's sky or xboxs

Such a system, were it ever to be introduced, would be wide open to abuse with some people choosing to sell on £1 worth of food for 50p worth of drink."

So 50 percent less open to abuse than the current system.

Also by doing g that they'd be effectively halving thier benefits and making it unlikely they could do it for long.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If I didn't get child benefit I couldn't afford to get to work, would have to give up work and cost the tax payer hell of a lot more money in benefits than they currently pay me in child benefit. Lets not forget these children that child benefit is paid fir are the workers of the future. Those that have bleated 'if you can't afford children blah blah' seen to forget these kids will be paying taxes in the future which will be paying for the nhs etc which no doubt you will be using in your old age. "

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Child benefit for my kids goes direct into a Bank Account in their names for them to have access to when they are 21 - unless they need it before for a wedding etc........

Not to buy a car or a holiday !!!!!!!!

Must admit im changing my opinion on these benefits,I assumed that the benefits would be used for essentials as they grow up,not so they can go on the piss at university or have a nice wedding.

This is why benefits should be paid out to a card that can only be used for food clothes etc

Not booze, fags, gambling, tv's sky or xboxs

Such a system, were it ever to be introduced, would be wide open to abuse with some people choosing to sell on £1 worth of food for 50p worth of drink.

So 50 percent less open to abuse than the current system.

Also by doing g that they'd be effectively halving thier benefits and making it unlikely they could do it for long. "

Addicts (booze, fags, horses etc) don't think about tomorrow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is ridiculous to say you don't want to pay for other peoples children.

I am a full time working single mum and I need child benefits to pay my bills. It wasn't a choice I was given - it was life what happened and I faced my responsibilities and I work bloody hard. It doesn't even cover a quarter of their childcare cost so I can actually go to work.

I'd happily give money to a working family.

More should be cut towards fat fucks who constantly eat shit and then put a strain the NHS. Or what about your tax money going towards couples who can't naturally conceive and get free treatments to have children? Or lazy uni students on the dole who think they are to good to work in a call centre or as a cleaner. Did you know the government pays companies up to 5k a month for keeping someone on ESA employed! Wtf is that?!

There are so many worthless arseholes putting a strain on tax money - kids are not one of them!! "

Well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The original purpose was to supplement the income of mothers whose husbands didn't come back from WWII."

I believe it was originally introduced because women were doing mens jobs whilst they were fighting a war. When the men came back, the women were kicked out of those jobs. To appease the women, they were given child benefit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

dont mind child benefits, tbh, as the children are the future, so the best start they can get, the better.

that said, people choosing to stay home with children shouldnt, and afaik arent, getting the new childcare credit, and so they shouldnt.

its a pleasure to be in a situation where you can afford to stay home and look after your own kids, you shouldnt be paid for it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

My Budget

A restriction on child benefit payable to those earning jointly less than £35k per annum.

Those OAPS with liquid savings of £300k only receive 50% of the state pension.

Those over 55 can draw their pension in its entirety as long as they invest in residential property.

A 25% increase in tobacco duty.

Minimum pricing of alcohol based on volume of alcohol.

The basic rate tax threshold raised to £13,000 per annum.

A new top rate tax of 44% on earnings of £85k or more.

A mansion tax on all properties valued in excess of a £1m with with a payment of £5k per annum.

Removal of the bedroom tax.

A 25% reduction in the nuclear capability.

Abolish the house of lords and set up an elected house of representatives.

Those between 16 and 23 who are not in full time education placed on a right to work programme with work experience the major part of the service.

The PSBR to be know more than 10% of GDP

The Duchy of Cornwall is nationalised and sold to private investors.

That would be in the first year with a further set of proposals in years two and three!

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