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"well that didnt go to plan did it!!  "they are lacking a striker, Torres is not performing and with Etoo injured they do look lacking up front.. no doubt they will address it in the summer.. | |||
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"The Chelsea 'fans' yesterday should be locked up and the key thrown away, they're a disgrace to themselves, to their club, to their country, and to football. The comparison between West Ham and Chelsea, or Mourinho and Allardyce more specifically, and both playing the same brand of football, is simple.... Chelsea win trophies, West Ham don't. And the comparisons between Chelsea, United and Arsenal, Chelsea being a smaller club than the other two? Well, over the last 5 years, Chelsea have won more trophies than the other two put together... not bad for a 'small club'. " must stick in your craw to know that, even though you have 'won more' you still arent as big. | |||
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"The Chelsea 'fans' yesterday should be locked up and the key thrown away, they're a disgrace to themselves, to their club, to their country, and to football. The comparison between West Ham and Chelsea, or Mourinho and Allardyce more specifically, and both playing the same brand of football, is simple.... Chelsea win trophies, West Ham don't. And the comparisons between Chelsea, United and Arsenal, Chelsea being a smaller club than the other two? Well, over the last 5 years, Chelsea have won more trophies than the other two put together... not bad for a 'small club'. must stick in your craw to know that, even though you have 'won more' you still arent as big." what have you won recently  | |||
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"The Chelsea 'fans' yesterday should be locked up and the key thrown away, they're a disgrace to themselves, to their club, to their country, and to football. The comparison between West Ham and Chelsea, or Mourinho and Allardyce more specifically, and both playing the same brand of football, is simple.... Chelsea win trophies, West Ham don't. And the comparisons between Chelsea, United and Arsenal, Chelsea being a smaller club than the other two? Well, over the last 5 years, Chelsea have won more trophies than the other two put together... not bad for a 'small club'. must stick in your craw to know that, even though you have 'won more' you still arent as big." Are they big or are they not? Shirt sales say they are a big club in Europe outselling clubs like AC Milan, Bayern Munich and Arsenal with 910,000 sales per year. They also have a huge fan base world wide and looking from outside the UK they are regarded as a big club. What in your view makes or negates a team from being a big club then? | |||
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"The Chelsea 'fans' yesterday should be locked up and the key thrown away, they're a disgrace to themselves, to their club, to their country, and to football. The comparison between West Ham and Chelsea, or Mourinho and Allardyce more specifically, and both playing the same brand of football, is simple.... Chelsea win trophies, West Ham don't. And the comparisons between Chelsea, United and Arsenal, Chelsea being a smaller club than the other two? Well, over the last 5 years, Chelsea have won more trophies than the other two put together... not bad for a 'small club'. must stick in your craw to know that, even though you have 'won more' you still arent as big." Not at all, like another poster said, Chelsea are seen as a big club all over the world, with shirt sales and fan base accordingly. But, of all my mates who are Arsenal fans, every one of them would prefer to be in our position over the last 10 years. And of all my mates who are United fans, every one of them would prefer to be on our position, with our Manager, now. | |||
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"The Chelsea 'fans' yesterday should be locked up and the key thrown away, they're a disgrace to themselves, to their club, to their country, and to football. The comparison between West Ham and Chelsea, or Mourinho and Allardyce more specifically, and both playing the same brand of football, is simple.... Chelsea win trophies, West Ham don't. And the comparisons between Chelsea, United and Arsenal, Chelsea being a smaller club than the other two? Well, over the last 5 years, Chelsea have won more trophies than the other two put together... not bad for a 'small club'. must stick in your craw to know that, even though you have 'won more' you still arent as big.what have you won recently "i won a goldfish at the fair when it was up the road. woo hoo what have you won? | |||
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"The Chelsea 'fans' yesterday should be locked up and the key thrown away, they're a disgrace to themselves, to their club, to their country, and to football. The comparison between West Ham and Chelsea, or Mourinho and Allardyce more specifically, and both playing the same brand of football, is simple.... Chelsea win trophies, West Ham don't. And the comparisons between Chelsea, United and Arsenal, Chelsea being a smaller club than the other two? Well, over the last 5 years, Chelsea have won more trophies than the other two put together... not bad for a 'small club'. must stick in your craw to know that, even though you have 'won more' you still arent as big.what have you won recently "Since 08/09(last 5 seasons) - 3 FA cups, 1 Premier League, 1 Europa League, and a Champions League. | |||
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"didnt realise football only came to being in 2009. well done the most successful club in the history of the sport, then lol history attitude fan base income the things for a big club are many and varied. are man city really a big club? they havent really got much history, just some bloke with lots of money, yet they have a bigger turn over than chelsea are liverpool? they have a better history and have won more, and probably a larger fanbase worldwide, but havent got a rich guy treating the club as a plaything. newcastle? outsell chelsea week in week out, stadium wise, but no history, et they consider themselves a big club. chelsea are a toy for a rich bloke, to be used on his whim. enjoy" Someone asked what Chelsea had won recently.... other than the last 5 seasons, what would you say was recent? Congratulations on the goldfish, by the way. | |||
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"thank you. called him rusty. he is my bestest friend i never mentioned recent, someone else did. i merely said they arent a big club dont attract the headlines like other big clubs do, unless they are acting with an arrogance thats only reserved for chelsea, and treating people like crap and i dont think all your united friends are true dyed in the wool fans, if they would want jose at their club. really? he destroys clubs, not builds them. plays awful football has his own hidden agenda those players he loves, will run through brick walls for him, fair enough, but there are plenty of others that have fallen fowl of his inability to be a flexible coach, some very good players too." Awww you named your goldfish after me I'm honoured  | |||
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"And just to add that saying Chelsea arent a big club is frankly laughable "A lot of people genuinely don't think they are. | |||
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"And just to add that saying Chelsea arent a big club is frankly laughable
A lot of people genuinely don't think they are. "I'd say there are more people that don't think they are than do. (This is not a snipe at the supporter but the club) | |||
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"thank you. called him rusty. he is my bestest friend i never mentioned recent, someone else did. i merely said they arent a big club dont attract the headlines like other big clubs do, unless they are acting with an arrogance thats only reserved for chelsea, and treating people like crap and i dont think all your united friends are true dyed in the wool fans, if they would want jose at their club. really? he destroys clubs, not builds them. plays awful football has his own hidden agenda those players he loves, will run through brick walls for him, fair enough, but there are plenty of others that have fallen fowl of his inability to be a flexible coach, some very good players too." Sorry, you did copy the quote though and asked what we had won. Most of my Utd mates are either season ticket holders or go regularly to matches, so I would say they are dyed in the wool fans. They also partly blame Ferguson for letting Utd deteriorate to the extent they have. Although none of them can understand why Moyes bought Fellaini! What team do you support? | |||
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"Chelsea supposedly didn't have any history before Roman Abramovich's millions, but tell that to Roy Bentley. That's him, above right, parading the 2005 Premier League trophy, won by the Blues, at Stamford Bridge. Bentley captained Chelsea to the 1955 title, which came during a run of 26 years in the top flight, while they have currently been among the elite every season since 1989 26 major trophies First team to ever hold the Europa cup and Champions league in one season. Rated 7th in the Forbes list of most valubale teams in the WORLD. And you still say not a big team ?? " | |||
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"Chelsea supposedly didn't have any history before Roman Abramovich's millions, but tell that to Roy Bentley. That's him, above right, parading the 2005 Premier League trophy, won by the Blues, at Stamford Bridge. Bentley captained Chelsea to the 1955 title, which came during a run of 26 years in the top flight, while they have currently been among the elite every season since 1989 26 major trophies First team to ever hold the Europa cup and Champions league in one season. Rated 7th in the Forbes list of most valubale teams in the WORLD. And you still say not a big team ?? " So being rich equates to greatness does it ? | |||
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"thank you. called him rusty. he is my bestest friend i never mentioned recent, someone else did. i merely said they arent a big club dont attract the headlines like other big clubs do, unless they are acting with an arrogance thats only reserved for chelsea, and treating people like crap and i dont think all your united friends are true dyed in the wool fans, if they would want jose at their club. really? he destroys clubs, not builds them. plays awful football has his own hidden agenda those players he loves, will run through brick walls for him, fair enough, but there are plenty of others that have fallen fowl of his inability to be a flexible coach, some very good players too. Awww you named your goldfish after me I'm honoured "i did too. he seemed a bit nuts, so it was a natural progression lol | |||
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"Chelsea are not a big club, even Blackburn have managed to buy the premier league but nobody would consider them big. Liverpool have never won the premier league but to think Chelsea are bigger than them would be laughable. West Ham have more fans turning up for league cup matches than Chelsea do for champions league matches. (Pre Allerdyce). Historically Fulham and QPR have bigger fan bases than Chelsea so they are not even the biggest club in west London let alone London or England. " Blackburn were a one hit wonder. Chelsea's average attendance in the Champions league is 40K. West Ham had 33K in the league cup in 2010 when they annihilated Utd 4-0, under Avram Grant. Chelsea's last champs league match had 39K, West Ham's last league cup match, had 14K. Fulham and QPR don't have bigger fan bases than Chelsea. In fact, years ago when my old man was going to matches (Chelsea supporter through and through), him and his mates used to go and watch Fulham if Chelsea weren't playing. | |||
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"Chelsea who?.. its bwteen liverpool and city lol." I've thought from about the 4th game in that Liverpool would win the league. | |||
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"Chelsea who?.. its bwteen liverpool and city lol. I've thought from about the 4th game in that Liverpool would win the league." lol yes, its mroe fun if it goes down to the last goal of the match of who will win the silver wear. | |||
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"Chelsea supposedly didn't have any history before Roman Abramovich's millions, but tell that to Roy Bentley. That's him, above right, parading the 2005 Premier League trophy, won by the Blues, at Stamford Bridge. Bentley captained Chelsea to the 1955 title, which came during a run of 26 years in the top flight, while they have currently been among the elite every season since 1989 26 major trophies First team to ever hold the Europa cup and Champions league in one season. Rated 7th in the Forbes list of most valubale teams in the WORLD. And you still say not a big team ?? So being rich equates to greatness does it ?" No the facts speak for themselves...... Chelsea hold the English record for the highest ever points total for a league season (95), the fewest goals conceded during a league season (15), the highest number of Premier League victories in a season (29), the highest number of clean sheets overall in a Premier League season (25) (all set during the 2004–05 season),[86] and the most consecutive clean sheets from the start of a league season (6, set during the 2005–06 season).[87] The club's 21–0 aggregate victory over Jeunesse Hautcharage in the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup in 1971 remains a record in European competition.[88] Chelsea hold the record for the longest streak of unbeaten matches at home in the English top-flight, which lasted 86 matches from 20 March 2004 to 26 October 2008. They secured the record on 12 August 2007, beating the previous record of 63 matches unbeaten set by Liverpool between 1978 and 1980.[89][90] Chelsea's streak of eleven consecutive away league wins, set between 5 April 2008 and 6 December 2008, is also a record for the English top flight.[91] Their £50m purchase of Fernando Torres in January 2011 is a British record transfer fee.[92] | |||
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"thank you. called him rusty. he is my bestest friend i never mentioned recent, someone else did. i merely said they arent a big club dont attract the headlines like other big clubs do, unless they are acting with an arrogance thats only reserved for chelsea, and treating people like crap and i dont think all your united friends are true dyed in the wool fans, if they would want jose at their club. really? he destroys clubs, not builds them. plays awful football has his own hidden agenda those players he loves, will run through brick walls for him, fair enough, but there are plenty of others that have fallen fowl of his inability to be a flexible coach, some very good players too. Sorry, you did copy the quote though and asked what we had won. Most of my Utd mates are either season ticket holders or go regularly to matches, so I would say they are dyed in the wool fans. They also partly blame Ferguson for letting Utd deteriorate to the extent they have. Although none of them can understand why Moyes bought Fellaini! What team do you support? " where did iask what chelsea had won? nowhere. i asked what the person who asked me what i had won, had won. unless YOU take the field, then, im sorry, you have won fook all. the players, and the club have won things, not the people that watch the tv, sit in the stand, buy a shirt in a shop in kuala lumpaur, and so on. just face it. this thread would have died had i not poked the hornets nest, yet regularly, arsenal, man u and various other club based threads go to the maximum post count. and hy? because nobody cares about chelsea. where is the thread about the eur match last night? there isnt one. i had to mention it in one that was made weeks ago. why? there was one about man u on tuesday there was one last round about arsenal. face facts. no one, and i mean no one, cares about what happens at chelsea, except chelsea fans. and thats what stops them being a big club. imo. oh, and btw, who i support matters not a jot. im a level headed football fan that doesnt wear rose tinted specs when it comes to my own club, or the game itself. | |||
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"Celtic are at championship level in the uk." indeed. and rosenberg and basel and so on they arent 'big' teams are they? | |||
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"Celtic are at championship level in the uk. indeed. and rosenberg and basel and so on they arent 'big' teams are they?" Havent heard of those team, but celtic is only good in scotland, non of those scotish team would be top 5 in premiership. | |||
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"Chelsea supposedly didn't have any history before Roman Abramovich's millions, but tell that to Roy Bentley. That's him, above right, parading the 2005 Premier League trophy, won by the Blues, at Stamford Bridge. Bentley captained Chelsea to the 1955 title, which came during a run of 26 years in the top flight, while they have currently been among the elite every season since 1989 26 major trophies First team to ever hold the Europa cup and Champions league in one season. Rated 7th in the Forbes list of most valubale teams in the WORLD. And you still say not a big team ?? So being rich equates to greatness does it ? No the facts speak for themselves...... Chelsea hold the English record for the highest ever points total for a league season (95), the fewest goals conceded during a league season (15), the highest number of Premier League victories in a season (29), the highest number of clean sheets overall in a Premier League season (25) (all set during the 2004–05 season),[86] and the most consecutive clean sheets from the start of a league season (6, set during the 2005–06 season).[87] The club's 21–0 aggregate victory over Jeunesse Hautcharage in the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup in 1971 remains a record in European competition.[88] Chelsea hold the record for the longest streak of unbeaten matches at home in the English top-flight, which lasted 86 matches from 20 March 2004 to 26 October 2008. They secured the record on 12 August 2007, beating the previous record of 63 matches unbeaten set by Liverpool between 1978 and 1980.[89][90] Chelsea's streak of eleven consecutive away league wins, set between 5 April 2008 and 6 December 2008, is also a record for the English top flight.[91] Their £50m purchase of Fernando Torres in January 2011 is a British record transfer fee.[92]" All the above means is that they are a successful football team at the moment. So are Man City and I'm sure they'll go on to eclipse some of the records Chelsea hold. But the argument is are Chelsea a big club; they are not and nor are City. | |||
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"Chelsea supposedly didn't have any history before Roman Abramovich's millions, but tell that to Roy Bentley. That's him, above right, parading the 2005 Premier League trophy, won by the Blues, at Stamford Bridge. Bentley captained Chelsea to the 1955 title, which came during a run of 26 years in the top flight, while they have currently been among the elite every season since 1989 26 major trophies First team to ever hold the Europa cup and Champions league in one season. Rated 7th in the Forbes list of most valubale teams in the WORLD. And you still say not a big team ?? So being rich equates to greatness does it ? No the facts speak for themselves...... Chelsea hold the English record for the highest ever points total for a league season (95), the fewest goals conceded during a league season (15), the highest number of Premier League victories in a season (29), the highest number of clean sheets overall in a Premier League season (25) (all set during the 2004–05 season),[86] and the most consecutive clean sheets from the start of a league season (6, set during the 2005–06 season).[87] The club's 21–0 aggregate victory over Jeunesse Hautcharage in the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup in 1971 remains a record in European competition.[88] Chelsea hold the record for the longest streak of unbeaten matches at home in the English top-flight, which lasted 86 matches from 20 March 2004 to 26 October 2008. They secured the record on 12 August 2007, beating the previous record of 63 matches unbeaten set by Liverpool between 1978 and 1980.[89][90] Chelsea's streak of eleven consecutive away league wins, set between 5 April 2008 and 6 December 2008, is also a record for the English top flight.[91] Their £50m purchase of Fernando Torres in January 2011 is a British record transfer fee.[92] All the above means is that they are a successful football team at the moment. So are Man City and I'm sure they'll go on to eclipse some of the records Chelsea hold. But the argument is are Chelsea a big club; they are not and nor are City. " So help me out here then ?? What defines a big club ??? | |||
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"Chelsea who?.. its bwteen liverpool and city lol. I've thought from about the 4th game in that Liverpool would win the league.lol yes, its mroe fun if it goes down to the last goal of the match of who will win the silver wear." no its bloody not, ben there and it was a right kick in the bollocks.. bloody Arsenal..  | |||
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"Celtic are at championship level in the uk." But they are still a big club. Chelsea can only dream if holding such status that is afforded to Celtic. | |||
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"Chelsea supposedly didn't have any history before Roman Abramovich's millions, but tell that to Roy Bentley. That's him, above right, parading the 2005 Premier League trophy, won by the Blues, at Stamford Bridge. Bentley captained Chelsea to the 1955 title, which came during a run of 26 years in the top flight, while they have currently been among the elite every season since 1989 26 major trophies First team to ever hold the Europa cup and Champions league in one season. Rated 7th in the Forbes list of most valubale teams in the WORLD. And you still say not a big team ?? So being rich equates to greatness does it ? No the facts speak for themselves...... Chelsea hold the English record for the highest ever points total for a league season (95), the fewest goals conceded during a league season (15), the highest number of Premier League victories in a season (29), the highest number of clean sheets overall in a Premier League season (25) (all set during the 2004–05 season),[86] and the most consecutive clean sheets from the start of a league season (6, set during the 2005–06 season).[87] The club's 21–0 aggregate victory over Jeunesse Hautcharage in the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup in 1971 remains a record in European competition.[88] Chelsea hold the record for the longest streak of unbeaten matches at home in the English top-flight, which lasted 86 matches from 20 March 2004 to 26 October 2008. They secured the record on 12 August 2007, beating the previous record of 63 matches unbeaten set by Liverpool between 1978 and 1980.[89][90] Chelsea's streak of eleven consecutive away league wins, set between 5 April 2008 and 6 December 2008, is also a record for the English top flight.[91] Their £50m purchase of Fernando Torres in January 2011 is a British record transfer fee.[92] All the above means is that they are a successful football team at the moment. So are Man City and I'm sure they'll go on to eclipse some of the records Chelsea hold. But the argument is are Chelsea a big club; they are not and nor are City. So help me out here then ?? What defines a big club ??? " History Respect Class Reputation A certain awe that is exuded when the club is mentioned. A badge, football strip that is instantly recognised the world over A fan base that hasn't just turned up when the going got good Chelsea have none of the above. | |||
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"Chelsea supposedly didn't have any history before Roman Abramovich's millions, but tell that to Roy Bentley. That's him, above right, parading the 2005 Premier League trophy, won by the Blues, at Stamford Bridge. Bentley captained Chelsea to the 1955 title, which came during a run of 26 years in the top flight, while they have currently been among the elite every season since 1989 26 major trophies First team to ever hold the Europa cup and Champions league in one season. Rated 7th in the Forbes list of most valubale teams in the WORLD. And you still say not a big team ?? So being rich equates to greatness does it ? No the facts speak for themselves...... Chelsea hold the English record for the highest ever points total for a league season (95), the fewest goals conceded during a league season (15), the highest number of Premier League victories in a season (29), the highest number of clean sheets overall in a Premier League season (25) (all set during the 2004–05 season),[86] and the most consecutive clean sheets from the start of a league season (6, set during the 2005–06 season).[87] The club's 21–0 aggregate victory over Jeunesse Hautcharage in the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup in 1971 remains a record in European competition.[88] Chelsea hold the record for the longest streak of unbeaten matches at home in the English top-flight, which lasted 86 matches from 20 March 2004 to 26 October 2008. They secured the record on 12 August 2007, beating the previous record of 63 matches unbeaten set by Liverpool between 1978 and 1980.[89][90] Chelsea's streak of eleven consecutive away league wins, set between 5 April 2008 and 6 December 2008, is also a record for the English top flight.[91] Their £50m purchase of Fernando Torres in January 2011 is a British record transfer fee.[92]" not getting into the whole 'my club's bigger than yours' debate but will say just this.. Chelsea have no doubt had lifelong fans who followed them in the barren years before the Russian came and basically rescued them from Ken who was draining them dry and they are the 'true fans' and to be noted as such.. but their gate's before the Russian were well below what they are now and whilst accepting that money has brought success the amount of people who have 'always been fans' far outweighs the actual numbers.. Cpl of m8's have been going for 30 plus yrs and we rip the piss out of each other team wise but even they acknowledge that some of the new fans may well leg it were the Russian do the same.. maybe it was ever thus with some folks.. btw I wouldn't have Torres as an example of anything except to say thanks for the wedge...
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"Chelsea supposedly didn't have any history before Roman Abramovich's millions, but tell that to Roy Bentley. That's him, above right, parading the 2005 Premier League trophy, won by the Blues, at Stamford Bridge. Bentley captained Chelsea to the 1955 title, which came during a run of 26 years in the top flight, while they have currently been among the elite every season since 1989 26 major trophies First team to ever hold the Europa cup and Champions league in one season. Rated 7th in the Forbes list of most valubale teams in the WORLD. And you still say not a big team ?? So being rich equates to greatness does it ? No the facts speak for themselves...... Chelsea hold the English record for the highest ever points total for a league season (95), the fewest goals conceded during a league season (15), the highest number of Premier League victories in a season (29), the highest number of clean sheets overall in a Premier League season (25) (all set during the 2004–05 season),[86] and the most consecutive clean sheets from the start of a league season (6, set during the 2005–06 season).[87] The club's 21–0 aggregate victory over Jeunesse Hautcharage in the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup in 1971 remains a record in European competition.[88] Chelsea hold the record for the longest streak of unbeaten matches at home in the English top-flight, which lasted 86 matches from 20 March 2004 to 26 October 2008. They secured the record on 12 August 2007, beating the previous record of 63 matches unbeaten set by Liverpool between 1978 and 1980.[89][90] Chelsea's streak of eleven consecutive away league wins, set between 5 April 2008 and 6 December 2008, is also a record for the English top flight.[91] Their £50m purchase of Fernando Torres in January 2011 is a British record transfer fee.[92] All the above means is that they are a successful football team at the moment. So are Man City and I'm sure they'll go on to eclipse some of the records Chelsea hold. But the argument is are Chelsea a big club; they are not and nor are City. So help me out here then ?? What defines a big club ??? History Respect Class Reputation A certain awe that is exuded when the club is mentioned. - does not make a club big ! A badge, football strip that is instantly recognised the world over A fan base that hasn't just turned up when the going got good Chelsea have none of the above. " History - been going since 1905 Respect - matter of opinion Class - see above facts Reputation - see above facts A certain awe that is exuded when the club is mentioned. - does not make a club big ! A badge, football strip that is instantly recognised the world over - lmfao really go check sales of chelsea kits worldwide !! A fan base that hasn't just turned up when the going got good - again see above facts !! | |||
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"as a leeds fan i'm no lover of chelsea, but i do think they are a big club, in the 70's they would get crowds of over 50,ooo for big games, and while teams like q p r and arsenal would bring a few hundred to leeds ,they would bring thousands." +1 this | |||
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"I love how all footy threads seem to turn to shit. I'm United through and through but will always support an English club abroad, because I'm English and I'd rather see one of our teams take the honours than another European club. Yes when it comes to the domestic leagues I'll give as much banter to Chelsea, Lpool, Arsenal fans and any other team we face. But that's it!! It's Banter. It's not life and death. So why do people get so worked up and angry and feel the need to get seriously abusive ie yesterday's thread. "I see no abuse here just normal banter. It's like you'd hear down the pub after a game. | |||
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"Chelsea who?.. its bwteen liverpool and city lol. I've thought from about the 4th game in that Liverpool would win the league.lol yes, its mroe fun if it goes down to the last goal of the match of who will win the silver wear." I think it's been a brilliant season so far for football. It's still pretty open at both ends, where any of the, realistically, top 3, can still win, the next 3 are vying for 4th place, and any of the bottom 7 or 8 clubs can still go down, though sadly I think Fulham have gone. Theirs been loads of goals and loads of drama. Brilliant. | |||
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"Chelsea supposedly didn't have any history before Roman Abramovich's millions, but tell that to Roy Bentley. That's him, above right, parading the 2005 Premier League trophy, won by the Blues, at Stamford Bridge. Bentley captained Chelsea to the 1955 title, which came during a run of 26 years in the top flight, while they have currently been among the elite every season since 1989 26 major trophies First team to ever hold the Europa cup and Champions league in one season. Rated 7th in the Forbes list of most valubale teams in the WORLD. And you still say not a big team ?? So being rich equates to greatness does it ? No the facts speak for themselves...... Chelsea hold the English record for the highest ever points total for a league season (95), the fewest goals conceded during a league season (15), the highest number of Premier League victories in a season (29), the highest number of clean sheets overall in a Premier League season (25) (all set during the 2004–05 season),[86] and the most consecutive clean sheets from the start of a league season (6, set during the 2005–06 season).[87] The club's 21–0 aggregate victory over Jeunesse Hautcharage in the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup in 1971 remains a record in European competition.[88] Chelsea hold the record for the longest streak of unbeaten matches at home in the English top-flight, which lasted 86 matches from 20 March 2004 to 26 October 2008. They secured the record on 12 August 2007, beating the previous record of 63 matches unbeaten set by Liverpool between 1978 and 1980.[89][90] Chelsea's streak of eleven consecutive away league wins, set between 5 April 2008 and 6 December 2008, is also a record for the English top flight.[91] Their £50m purchase of Fernando Torres in January 2011 is a British record transfer fee.[92] All the above means is that they are a successful football team at the moment. So are Man City and I'm sure they'll go on to eclipse some of the records Chelsea hold. But the argument is are Chelsea a big club; they are not and nor are City. So help me out here then ?? What defines a big club ??? History Respect Class Reputation A certain awe that is exuded when the club is mentioned. - does not make a club big ! A badge, football strip that is instantly recognised the world over A fan base that hasn't just turned up when the going got good Chelsea have none of the above. History - been going since 1905 Respect - matter of opinion Class - see above facts Reputation - see above facts A certain awe that is exuded when the club is mentioned. - does not make a club big ! A badge, football strip that is instantly recognised the world over - lmfao really go check sales of chelsea kits worldwide !! A fan base that hasn't just turned up when the going got good - again see above facts !!" class and respect are very questionable. have they apologised to Clattenberg yet? thought not jose is the master of 'its someone elses fault' look at last night. he said it was the boards fault for not buying him a forward. he wanted eto'o he has let lukaku go out on loan and kept baa baa 17 goals in a very average team last year, and he isnt good enough for chelsea? ba scored 17 goals by the time chelsea signed him (half a season) and yet he isnt good enough either? i say again, i dont get the mourinhio mystique. one trick pony, and the fans are getting sold a pup, but you are all too blinkered in your love for him to see it. | |||
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"My opinion of what makes a club " Big "...... Achievements Consistency Revenue Growth Giving back to the fans Bringing in new talent from home soil The word Big is ambiguous really however the above is what i would consider making a team big. " so, how does your own club qualify in your own specifications?? | |||
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"I love how all footy threads seem to turn to shit. I'm United through and through but will always support an English club abroad, because I'm English and I'd rather see one of our teams take the honours than another European club. Yes when it comes to the domestic leagues I'll give as much banter to Chelsea, Lpool, Arsenal fans and any other team we face. But that's it!! It's Banter. It's not life and death. So why do people get so worked up and angry and feel the need to get seriously abusive ie yesterday's thread. "This. Too true it's not life or death, and IS just banter. | |||
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"My opinion of what makes a club " Big "...... Achievements Consistency Revenue Growth Giving back to the fans Bringing in new talent from home soil The word Big is ambiguous really however the above is what i would consider making a team big. so, how does your own club qualify in your own specifications??" Go see Chelsea FC on wiki pedia that will answer your question
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"I love how all footy threads seem to turn to shit. I'm United through and through but will always support an English club abroad, because I'm English and I'd rather see one of our teams take the honours than another European club. Yes when it comes to the domestic leagues I'll give as much banter to Chelsea, Lpool, Arsenal fans and any other team we face. But that's it!! It's Banter. It's not life and death. So why do people get so worked up and angry and feel the need to get seriously abusive ie yesterday's thread.
This. Too true it's not life or death, and IS just banter. " | |||
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"Chelsea are not a big club, even Blackburn have managed to buy the premier league but nobody would consider them big. Liverpool have never won the premier league but to think Chelsea are bigger than them would be laughable. West Ham have more fans turning up for league cup matches than Chelsea do for champions league matches. (Pre Allerdyce). Historically Fulham and QPR have bigger fan bases than Chelsea so they are not even the biggest club in west London let alone London or England. " total crap | |||
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"My opinion of what makes a club " Big "...... Achievements Consistency Revenue Growth Giving back to the fans Bringing in new talent from home soil The word Big is ambiguous really however the above is what i would consider making a team big. so, how does your own club qualify in your own specifications?? Go see Chelsea FC on wiki pedia that will answer your question
Funny how you mock our team and manager yet wont tell us who you support eh ?? "i dont mind people knowing im an albion fan, and the best player we have had isnt good enough for your team lol my question is the final 2 points on your very own list. what do they do for the local community? especially looking at how man citys owners have regenerated the area around the etihad. and also, bringing through home grown youngsters. you are shouting about recent achievements so, since john terry???? | |||
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"Chelsea are not a big club, even Blackburn have managed to buy the premier league but nobody would consider them big. Liverpool have never won the premier league but to think Chelsea are bigger than them would be laughable. West Ham have more fans turning up for league cup matches than Chelsea do for champions league matches. (Pre Allerdyce). Historically Fulham and QPR have bigger fan bases than Chelsea so they are not even the biggest club in west London let alone London or England. total crap" you never answered my question. what have YOU won recently? | |||
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"My opinion of what makes a club " Big "...... Achievements Consistency Revenue Growth Giving back to the fans Bringing in new talent from home soil The word Big is ambiguous really however the above is what i would consider making a team big. so, how does your own club qualify in your own specifications?? Go see Chelsea FC on wiki pedia that will answer your question
Funny how you mock our team and manager yet wont tell us who you support eh ??
i dont mind people knowing im an albion fan, and the best player we have had isnt good enough for your team lol
my question is the final 2 points on your very own list.
what do they do for the local community?
especially looking at how man citys owners have regenerated the area around the etihad.
and also, bringing through home grown youngsters.
you are shouting about recent achievements so, since john terry????"Albion Rovers FC ??? | |||
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"Chelsea are not a big club, even Blackburn have managed to buy the premier league but nobody would consider them big. Liverpool have never won the premier league but to think Chelsea are bigger than them would be laughable. West Ham have more fans turning up for league cup matches than Chelsea do for champions league matches. (Pre Allerdyce). Historically Fulham and QPR have bigger fan bases than Chelsea so they are not even the biggest club in west London let alone London or England. total crap" Thanks for your intelligent input. | |||
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"My opinion of what makes a club " Big "...... Achievements Consistency Revenue Growth Giving back to the fans Bringing in new talent from home soil The word Big is ambiguous really however the above is what i would consider making a team big. so, how does your own club qualify in your own specifications?? Go see Chelsea FC on wiki pedia that will answer your question
Funny how you mock our team and manager yet wont tell us who you support eh ??
i dont mind people knowing im an albion fan, and the best player we have had isnt good enough for your team lol
my question is the final 2 points on your very own list.
what do they do for the local community?
especially looking at how man citys owners have regenerated the area around the etihad.
and also, bringing through home grown youngsters.
you are shouting about recent achievements so, since john terry????
Albion Rovers FC ??? "god, i wish we were that big!!! lol stop avoiding the question. you set the parameters. how does your own club qualify? | |||
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"My opinion of what makes a club " Big "...... Achievements Consistency Revenue Growth Giving back to the fans Bringing in new talent from home soil The word Big is ambiguous really however the above is what i would consider making a team big. so, how does your own club qualify in your own specifications?? Go see Chelsea FC on wiki pedia that will answer your question
Funny how you mock our team and manager yet wont tell us who you support eh ??
i dont mind people knowing im an albion fan, and the best player we have had isnt good enough for your team lol
my question is the final 2 points on your very own list.
what do they do for the local community?
especially looking at how man citys owners have regenerated the area around the etihad.
and also, bringing through home grown youngsters.
you are shouting about recent achievements so, since john terry????"They can't even claim John Terry. He came through the West Ham youth set up. | |||
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"Chelsea are not a big club, even Blackburn have managed to buy the premier league but nobody would consider them big. Liverpool have never won the premier league but to think Chelsea are bigger than them would be laughable. West Ham have more fans turning up for league cup matches than Chelsea do for champions league matches. (Pre Allerdyce). Historically Fulham and QPR have bigger fan bases than Chelsea so they are not even the biggest club in west London let alone London or England. total crap" Some of it is nonsense to be fair, they area probably the biggest club in West London, but only the 4th biggest in London. Arsenal have more history, more silverware, and a much bigger fan base, likewise Spurs, and it's possible to argue a case for West Ham too, having won the World Cup in 1966 and the fact they are moving to a stadium that Chelsea could only dream of filling. Add to that the fact that United and Liverpool are clearly much bigger clubs, and it is debateable whether Man City, Everton and Aston Villa are too, given their fan base, history and trophy collections. This means Chelsea rank somewhere between 5th and 9th in England, so probably somewhere between 15th and 20th in Europe, distinctly higher than before Roman arrived with his alleged ill gotten gains | |||
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"My opinion of what makes a club " Big "...... Achievements Consistency Revenue Growth Giving back to the fans Bringing in new talent from home soil The word Big is ambiguous really however the above is what i would consider making a team big. so, how does your own club qualify in your own specifications?? Go see Chelsea FC on wiki pedia that will answer your question
Funny how you mock our team and manager yet wont tell us who you support eh ??
i dont mind people knowing im an albion fan, and the best player we have had isnt good enough for your team lol
my question is the final 2 points on your very own list.
what do they do for the local community?
especially looking at how man citys owners have regenerated the area around the etihad.
and also, bringing through home grown youngsters.
you are shouting about recent achievements so, since john terry????
They can't even claim John Terry. He came through the West Ham youth set up. "oh no. things arent looking good are they? lol. oh, and while we are talking about trophies meaning big clubs. erm... Forest | |||
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"My opinion of what makes a club " Big "...... Achievements Consistency Revenue Growth Giving back to the fans Bringing in new talent from home soil The word Big is ambiguous really however the above is what i would consider making a team big. so, how does your own club qualify in your own specifications?? Go see Chelsea FC on wiki pedia that will answer your question
Funny how you mock our team and manager yet wont tell us who you support eh ??
i dont mind people knowing im an albion fan, and the best player we have had isnt good enough for your team lol
my question is the final 2 points on your very own list.
what do they do for the local community?
especially looking at how man citys owners have regenerated the area around the etihad.
and also, bringing through home grown youngsters.
you are shouting about recent achievements so, since john terry????
Albion Rovers FC ???
god, i wish we were that big!!! lol
stop avoiding the question.
you set the parameters.
how does your own club qualify?"Its my opinion of what i feel would make a club " big " the word big is unquantifiable really with regards to a football club or this topic but since you asked lol........ Achievements - Already mentioned previously above Consistency - again see above facts, consistently playing in top level football Revenue - 255 million turnover for 2013 Growth - Our history speaks for itself Giving back to the fans - cant comment at the mo but lots of fan stuff on the website
Bringing in new talent from home soil - Youth academies etc which other teams have was what i aiming at
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"i have a bird table in the garden, but im not a bird breeder lol. they have an academy. they have no players coming through. the BET player they have had come through in recent years is playing in the championship, so your specifics dont add up. similarly giving back. its only because the fans have shares in the pitch that the stadium hasnt been ripped up and turned into a housing complex. man city have redeveloped the entire area around the city stadium (dunno if you ever venture up that way, but its truly impressive) as well as leisure facilities that the public can use, as well as the players. it really is what every club should model themselves on, in the local community" Will try and get up there one day but will be taking an armed escort lol | |||
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"i have a bird table in the garden, but im not a bird breeder lol. they have an academy. they have no players coming through. the BET player they have had come through in recent years is playing in the championship, so your specifics dont add up. similarly giving back. its only because the fans have shares in the pitch that the stadium hasnt been ripped up and turned into a housing complex. man city have redeveloped the entire area around the city stadium (dunno if you ever venture up that way, but its truly impressive) as well as leisure facilities that the public can use, as well as the players. it really is what every club should model themselves on, in the local community Will try and get up there one day but will be taking an armed escort lol "oh shit, yeah. dont slow down to look, or you'll be walking away...in bare feet lol | |||
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"i have a bird table in the garden, but im not a bird breeder lol. they have an academy. they have no players coming through. the BET player they have had come through in recent years is playing in the championship, so your specifics dont add up. similarly giving back. its only because the fans have shares in the pitch that the stadium hasnt been ripped up and turned into a housing complex. man city have redeveloped the entire area around the city stadium (dunno if you ever venture up that way, but its truly impressive) as well as leisure facilities that the public can use, as well as the players. it really is what every club should model themselves on, in the local community" You're right about the pitch. One of the first things Ken Bates did when he bought the club was sell the pitch to the fans because Marler Estates were lurking in the background wanting to basically close down Chelsea and develop the ground. CPO shareholder myself. Man City don't actually own their ground. And if it wasn't for the Commonwealth Games it would be highly unlikely that they'd be in the position they are now, with the owners they have. The costs to convert to football were over 50% met by Manchester City Council. But what they are doing is really great, and all power to them. Football is, and always has been, about money, it's just the sheet sums involved now that are pretty sickening to be honest. All clubs do a lot in their communities, and I don't think people appreciate how much many of the footballers themselves do either. For example, Didier Drogba donated a quite hefty sum to build a hospital back in his home country. Chelsea wanted to build a new stadium at Battersea Power Station, and Abramovich was ready to do a similar job to what is being done at Man City (only fully funding it), and even extending underground lines i.to the complex. The problem that CPO had with it was he wanted to buy the pitch shares first before the deal had been done. As it happened, the American Embassy, which is nearby, didn't want it on security grounds, so it would never have gone ahead. But if it had, it would have been a 60 to 70K stadium, and iconic, with the Power Station towers bring retained. CPO is not averse to the pitch being sold back to the club, as long as any new ground is local to Stamford Bridge. | |||
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"The Chelsea 'fans' yesterday should be locked up and the key thrown away, they're a disgrace to themselves, to their club, to their country, and to football. The comparison between West Ham and Chelsea, or Mourinho and Allardyce more specifically, and both playing the same brand of football, is simple.... Chelsea win trophies, West Ham don't. And the comparisons between Chelsea, United and Arsenal, Chelsea being a smaller club than the other two? Well, over the last 5 years, Chelsea have won more trophies than the other two put together... not bad for a 'small club'. must stick in your craw to know that, even though you have 'won more' you still arent as big.what have you won recently
Since 08/09(last 5 seasons) - 3 FA cups, 1 Premier League, 1 Europa League, and a Champions League."and the amount of net spending chelsea have made to reach the level of this "project" is........ 
are chelsea a bit club... sure.... just happens they bought their way into "big club" status........ don't begrudge them that at all...
do i think they would be there without the "russian"..... nope...
the irony of last night is that in effect chelsea got "out chelsea-d" by PSG.... super rich owner bought themselves a fantasy team......
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"Jaap stam , rio , Ferdinand , Juan Sebastian veron , micheal carrick , ruud van nistlerooy , some big money signings by man utd . £ 30 million for rio a centre half ! In 02/03 season ,and they never bought the title ??????" Ferguson has bought some duffers. And spent a lot of money on them, but by far his worst 'buy' has been Moyes.... 36M in wages, plus the costs of sacking the existing backroom staff, plus already his first buy was paying 27M for Fellaini. All told probably close to 100M to take them from first to 6th or 7th. | |||
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"Jaap stam , rio , Ferdinand , Juan Sebastian veron , micheal carrick , ruud van nistlerooy , some big money signings by man utd . £ 30 million for rio a centre half ! In 02/03 season ,and they never bought the title ??????" But these players were bought over a period of time and United were the richest club in the world at the time because they had such a massive fan base. When chelski won the title in 2005 they spent 100 million that summer and it was simply owners cash, nothing to do with how much chelski made. If that isn't buying the title, I don't know what is but hey Ho, I wouldnt turn down abromovic's money if he decided to buy my club. | |||
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"Jaap stam , rio , Ferdinand , Juan Sebastian veron , micheal carrick , ruud van nistlerooy , some big money signings by man utd . £ 30 million for rio a centre half ! In 02/03 season ,and they never bought the title ?????? But these players were bought over a period of time and United were the richest club in the world at the time because they had such a massive fan base. When chelski won the title in 2005 they spent 100 million that summer and it was simply owners cash, nothing to do with how much chelski made. If that isn't buying the title, I don't know what is but hey Ho, I wouldnt turn down abromovic's money if he decided to buy my club. " Like was being said earlier, it is, and always has been, about the money. Doesn't matter where it comes from, titles are invariably 'bought'. United would not have one the titles they had if they had not 'spent big' on players - in the first 12 years of the Premier League, they spent 50% more net on players than other teams around them. It's the cash sums that are spent now that is different, that is all. Take Arsenal as an example, (and not having a 'go' at Arsenal as such), they are extremely healthy financially, but don't invest big in players- if they had done, I am certain they would have won something over the last 8 years. Yes, occasionally a 'poor' team will win a cup competition, that's the nature of one-off knockouts, (Chelsea were not the best team in Europe in 2012, nor the richest, but still ended up as Champions). There are, of course, exceptions to the rule as well, Newcastle have spent big in their time, as have Spurs, but with very little to show for it. Again, not having a 'go' at these teams. It's sad about the money in football, and how divorced clubs and players are becoming from their fans. And to some extent, how divorced fans are from their clubs. I remember some years ago, with my son at Stamford Bridge. We were coming away from the ground, and he turned to me and said "Dad, the problem is, a lot of our fans are foreign, and they can't sing our songs and they don't understand or know what Chelsea is, they don't know the history"... very perceptive of a 12 year old, I thought, and in many ways a rather sad indictment of football in the modern era. But hey ho, that's progress for you. Nowadays you have to spend money to either catch up or keep up. | |||
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"and there is the kick in the knackers, chelsea fans lol. a chelsea post has ended on a united note. your club isnt big and it isnt clever lol. "but never the less will still finish above utd | |||
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"and there is the kick in the knackers, chelsea fans lol. a chelsea post has ended on a united note. your club isnt big and it isnt clever lol. but never the less will still finish above utd "not in the bumper book of big clubs lol | |||
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"and there is the kick in the knackers, chelsea fans lol. a chelsea post has ended on a united note. your club isnt big and it isnt clever lol. but never the less will still finish above utd
not in the bumper book of big clubs lol"god ! You'll sound like a Liverpool fan next and be banging on about history lol | |||
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"and there is the kick in the knackers, chelsea fans lol. a chelsea post has ended on a united note. your club isnt big and it isnt clever lol. but never the less will still finish above utd
not in the bumper book of big clubs lolgod ! You'll sound like a Liverpool fan next and be banging on about history lol "why? is that what chelsea are? lol | |||
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"and there is the kick in the knackers, chelsea fans lol. a chelsea post has ended on a united note. your club isnt big and it isnt clever lol. "In times past EVERY team was made up mainly of local talent... But back to that Utd team of local talent.. the class of 92. There were 7 youth team players that featured regularly, not the whole squad. These included David Beckham, from Leytonstone, London. Ryan Giggs, from Cardiff, also in the class of 92 were Robbie Savage and Keith Gillespie. Also featuring in the United teams in the first 'era' of the premier league were certain other players, and these included the likes of schmeichel, Cantona, Cole, Keane, Solskaer, Poborsky, Sheringham, Van Nistlerooy, Staam, Silvestre, Barthez, Ferdinand and Ronaldo. These were all 'big money signings' the likes of which other clubs could only dream of at the time, and now other clubs have the financial power since the mid 2000s and Sky's money really started kicking in, United have found it increasingly difficult to compete. Unfortunately, the obverse of this coin dictates that local talent the likes of the class of 92 will probably never be seen again, as with investment comes the desire for instant success. That aside, what exactly have you got against Chelsea? | |||
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"and there is the kick in the knackers, chelsea fans lol. a chelsea post has ended on a united note. your club isnt big and it isnt clever lol.
In times past EVERY team was made up mainly of local talent...
But back to that Utd team of local talent.. the class of 92.
There were 7 youth team players that featured regularly, not the whole squad. These included David Beckham, from Leytonstone, London. Ryan Giggs, from Cardiff, also in the class of 92 were Robbie Savage and Keith Gillespie.
Also featuring in the United teams in the first 'era' of the premier league were certain other players, and these included the likes of schmeichel, Cantona, Cole, Keane, Solskaer, Poborsky, Sheringham, Van Nistlerooy, Staam, Silvestre, Barthez, Ferdinand and Ronaldo.
These were all 'big money signings' the likes of which other clubs could only dream of at the time, and now other clubs have the financial power since the mid 2000s and Sky's money really started kicking in, United have found it increasingly difficult to compete.
Unfortunately, the obverse of this coin dictates that local talent the likes of the class of 92 will probably never be seen again, as with investment comes the desire for instant success.
That aside, what exactly have you got against Chelsea?
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"Jaap stam , rio , Ferdinand , Juan Sebastian veron , micheal carrick , ruud van nistlerooy , some big money signings by man utd . £ 30 million for rio a centre half ! In 02/03 season ,and they never bought the title ?????? But these players were bought over a period of time and United were the richest club in the world at the time because they had such a massive fan base. When chelski won the title in 2005 they spent 100 million that summer and it was simply owners cash, nothing to do with how much chelski made. If that isn't buying the title, I don't know what is but hey Ho, I wouldnt turn down abromovic's money if he decided to buy my club. Like was being said earlier, it is, and always has been, about the money. Doesn't matter where it comes from, titles are invariably 'bought'. United would not have one the titles they had if they had not 'spent big' on players - in the first 12 years of the Premier League, they spent 50% more net on players than other teams around them. It's the cash sums that are spent now that is different, that is all. Take Arsenal as an example, (and not having a 'go' at Arsenal as such), they are extremely healthy financially, but don't invest big in players- if they had done, I am certain they would have won something over the last 8 years. Yes, occasionally a 'poor' team will win a cup competition, that's the nature of one-off knockouts, (Chelsea were not the best team in Europe in 2012, nor the richest, but still ended up as Champions). There are, of course, exceptions to the rule as well, Newcastle have spent big in their time, as have Spurs, but with very little to show for it. Again, not having a 'go' at these teams. It's sad about the money in football, and how divorced clubs and players are becoming from their fans. And to some extent, how divorced fans are from their clubs. I remember some years ago, with my son at Stamford Bridge. We were coming away from the ground, and he turned to me and said "Dad, the problem is, a lot of our fans are foreign, and they can't sing our songs and they don't understand or know what Chelsea is, they don't know the history"... very perceptive of a 12 year old, I thought, and in many ways a rather sad indictment of football in the modern era. But hey ho, that's progress for you. Nowadays you have to spend money to either catch up or keep up." Newcastles most expensive signing was 17 million. Compared to most of the big teams I wouldn't say that was spending big. Although the biggest waste of 17 million they've ever spent | |||
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" Newcastles most expensive signing was 17 million. Compared to most of the big teams I wouldn't say that was spending big. Although the biggest waste of 17 million they've ever spent " It's all relative though isn't it? They also paid only 15M for Alan Shearer... a snip by what you've said, but at the time it was a world record transfer fee, and they had to pay that to stop Man Utd from getting him. Put into today's context, that's like paying 85M. Which is the existing record. I remember paying a pound a pint back in the day, and it wasn't seen as cheap then. It's called inflation. | |||
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" Newcastles most expensive signing was 17 million. Compared to most of the big teams I wouldn't say that was spending big. Although the biggest waste of 17 million they've ever spent " It's all relative though isn't it? They also paid only 15M for Alan Shearer... a snip by what you've said, but at the time it was a world record transfer fee, and they had to pay that to stop Man Utd from getting him. Put into today's context, that's like paying 85M. Which is the existing record. I remember paying a pound a pint back in the day, and it wasn't seen as cheap then. It's called inflation. | |||
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"One thing i will say is that its great to see lots of intelligent, knowledgeable and constructive comments on this thread it makes a change from the banal insulting of teams , players etc and makes for a good discussion / debate "I totally agree It shows football can be debated sensibly. No one has got out of order or abusive. Points have been raised and discussed on both sides of the argument and have been dealt with in an adult fashion. I have read the whole thread back again and chewed over some of the points. My mind hasn't been swayed. Chelsea don't make it into the Bumper Book of Big Clubs (oh how I wish there was such a book) Hours of debate and the whole thread can be summed up in that silly line. Bravo | |||
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"One thing i will say is that its great to see lots of intelligent, knowledgeable and constructive comments on this thread it makes a change from the banal insulting of teams , players etc and makes for a good discussion / debate
I totally agree It shows football can be debated sensibly. No one has got out of order or abusive. Points have been raised and discussed on both sides of the argument and have been dealt with in an adult fashion. I have read the whole thread back again and chewed over some of the points. My mind hasn't been swayed. Chelsea don't make it into the Bumper Book of Big Clubs (oh how I wish there was such a book) Hours of debate and the whole thread can be summed up in that silly line. Bravo "lol | |||
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" Newcastles most expensive signing was 17 million. Compared to most of the big teams I wouldn't say that was spending big. Although the biggest waste of 17 million they've ever spent It's all relative though isn't it? They also paid only 15M for Alan Shearer... a snip by what you've said, but at the time it was a world record transfer fee, and they had to pay that to stop Man Utd from getting him. Put into today's context, that's like paying 85M. Which is the existing record. I remember paying a pound a pint back in the day, and it wasn't seen as cheap then. It's called inflation." shearer never wanted to join Man U so it was what Blackburn wanted for him regardless whether man united wanted him or not | |||
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" Newcastles most expensive signing was 17 million. Compared to most of the big teams I wouldn't say that was spending big. Although the biggest waste of 17 million they've ever spent It's all relative though isn't it? They also paid only 15M for Alan Shearer... a snip by what you've said, but at the time it was a world record transfer fee, and they had to pay that to stop Man Utd from getting him. Put into today's context, that's like paying 85M. Which is the existing record. I remember paying a pound a pint back in the day, and it wasn't seen as cheap then. It's called inflation.shearer never wanted to join Man U so it was what Blackburn wanted for him regardless whether man united wanted him or not" Still a world record price though, even though it pales into insignificance in today's market. | |||
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"no. you saw the man u thread. swingers are just a caveman as the rest of the football fraternity when it comes to their own club, or rather some do. some of us are actually quite level headed and realistic in the foibles of our own clubs, as has been present, mostly, in this thread lol" Look up 'the Wealdstone raider' on YouTube. It'll make you smile. | |||
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"they arent really though are they? its just the apparent arrogance the club, and the manager, purvey, that gets under peoples skin. and, some of their fans (you still havent answered a couple of questions i asked you earlier lol) they think they are a big club, so they are bound to be compared to the big clubs. at best they are the smallest of the big clubs. at worse they are a small club that got lucky and found someone to buy out an owner that was a day away from sending them bankrupt. man city arent far enough in their journey to have forgotten where they came from (poor results and trundling aorund the lower leagues for a good amount of time. hard times for the fans) chelsea, and man u for that matter, seem to have forgotten the hard times and just think they are gravy" How very dare you. | |||
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"they arent really though are they? its just the apparent arrogance the club, and the manager, purvey, that gets under peoples skin. and, some of their fans (you still havent answered a couple of questions i asked you earlier lol) they think they are a big club, so they are bound to be compared to the big clubs. at best they are the smallest of the big clubs. at worse they are a small club that got lucky and found someone to buy out an owner that was a day away from sending them bankrupt. man city arent far enough in their journey to have forgotten where they came from (poor results and trundling aorund the lower leagues for a good amount of time. hard times for the fans) chelsea, and man u for that matter, seem to have forgotten the hard times and just think they are gravy "Have to disagree with you there, i'm afraid. I will never forget when we were rubbish... god knows i've been to enough games when we were. And neither will my son. However, I know plenty of Man Utd and City supporters, many of whom are season ticket holders. Always thought the United supporters were arrogant, but the City fans take it to another level completely. Even know one that had Champions League Winners and the year Tattoo done the first year they were in it - now there's arrogance for you! | |||
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"they arent really though are they? its just the apparent arrogance the club, and the manager, purvey, that gets under peoples skin. and, some of their fans (you still havent answered a couple of questions i asked you earlier lol) they think they are a big club, so they are bound to be compared to the big clubs. at best they are the smallest of the big clubs. at worse they are a small club that got lucky and found someone to buy out an owner that was a day away from sending them bankrupt. man city arent far enough in their journey to have forgotten where they came from (poor results and trundling aorund the lower leagues for a good amount of time. hard times for the fans) chelsea, and man u for that matter, seem to have forgotten the hard times and just think they are gravy
Have to disagree with you there, i'm afraid. I will never forget when we were rubbish... god knows i've to enough games when we were. And neither will my son.
However, I know plenty of Man Utd and City supporters, many of whom are season ticket holders. Always thought the United supporters were arrogant, but the City fans take it to another level completely. Even know one that had Champions League Winners and the year Tattoo done the first year they were in it - now there's arrogance for you!
"We're not all arrogant. If you listen to loons on talk sport you might think that it even get into heated debate cos people take a stance. There's no inherently bad fans, just a section that you're always slightly ashamed of. Fans are just people, they don't all morph into dickheads when they wear their colours. All my man u fan friends are just normal football loving folks, no expectation, just hope. We're gonna need a lot of hope from now on.lol. | |||
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"I get ribbed by my mates all the time for being Chelsea, the difference is i can take it and give as good back. Although i will say i have been a blue since i was a nipper ( due to my mum going out with a chelsea striker in the 60's lol ) And people i dont know often change their opinion when i tell them that lol funny that !! lol "Doug Rougvie ? | |||
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"I get ribbed by my mates all the time for being Chelsea, the difference is i can take it and give as good back. Although i will say i have been a blue since i was a nipper ( due to my mum going out with a chelsea striker in the 60's lol ) And people i dont know often change their opinion when i tell them that lol funny that !! lol
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"I get ribbed by my mates all the time for being Chelsea, the difference is i can take it and give as good back. Although i will say i have been a blue since i was a nipper ( due to my mum going out with a chelsea striker in the 60's lol ) And people i dont know often change their opinion when i tell them that lol funny that !! lol
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"I think Tottenham are considered big(ish).. Useless, don't win much..... But famous globally...... I'm off now..." Gonorrhoea is famous globally. What's your point ? | |||
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"I think Tottenham are considered big(ish).. Useless, don't win much..... But famous globally...... I'm off now... Gonorrhoea is famous globally. What's your point ? " and its more well known that spurs lol back on topic (chelsea) hear on the news the are entwined in possible corruption claims in th eredivisie (dutch league) not the best way to get a global brand name, is it? lol | |||
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"I think Tottenham are considered big(ish).. Useless, don't win much..... But famous globally...... I'm off now... Gonorrhoea is famous globally. What's your point ? and its more well known that spurs " But not as irritating. | |||
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"I think Tottenham are considered big(ish).. Useless, don't win much..... But famous globally...... I'm off now... Gonorrhoea is famous globally. What's your point ? " None.... Now you mention it.... | |||
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No wonder so many Cheski fans turn up at Leeds, their getting lost on the way to their home ground | |||
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" Take Arsenal as an example, (and not having a 'go' at Arsenal as such), they are extremely healthy financially, but don't invest big in players- if they had done, I am certain they would have won something over the last 8 years. " as an arsenal fan i have to reply to this.... you also have to remember that arsenal have also paid for a new stadium in that time... I don't think it would be right if chelsea fans didn't acknowledge that if it wasn't for roman giving chelsea a bottomless money pit (look at their spending in compared to their money received..) you would have been in huge debt... you'd basically be leeds/portsmouth | |||
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"I'm still struggling with Battersea power station being too close to the American Embassy part..any further away and they would be in different time zones
No wonder so many Cheski fans turn up at Leeds, their getting lost on the way to their home ground "The new American Embassy is in Nine Elms, and is within walking distance of Battersea Power Station. It is due to be opened in 2017. Not to be confused with the existing embassy in Grosvenor Square. You can stop struggling now that you've learnt something. | |||
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" Take Arsenal as an example, (and not having a 'go' at Arsenal as such), they are extremely healthy financially, but don't invest big in players- if they had done, I am certain they would have won something over the last 8 years. as an arsenal fan i have to reply to this.... you also have to remember that arsenal have also paid for a new stadium in that time... I don't think it would be right if chelsea fans didn't acknowledge that if it wasn't for roman giving chelsea a bottomless money pit (look at their spending in compared to their money received..) you would have been in huge debt... you'd basically be leeds/portsmouth" Like I said, I wasn't having a go at Arsenal, but they have 140M in the bank, and making profit every year. All I said was that if they had channelled some of that into players, I think they would have won something substantial in the last 8 years. Do you not think so? | |||
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"The Chelsea 'fans' yesterday should be locked up and the key thrown away, they're a disgrace to themselves, to their club, to their country, and to football. The comparison between West Ham and Chelsea, or Mourinho and Allardyce more specifically, and both playing the same brand of football, is simple.... Chelsea win trophies, West Ham don't. And the comparisons between Chelsea, United and Arsenal, Chelsea being a smaller club than the other two? Well, over the last 5 years, Chelsea have won more trophies than the other two put together... not bad for a 'small club'. " The difference between Sam & Jose is getting near £1 billion of dodgy Russian oil money - oh dear, you seemed to have overlooked that, 'tut Guy's!!! | |||
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" Take Arsenal as an example, (and not having a 'go' at Arsenal as such), they are extremely healthy financially, but don't invest big in players- if they had done, I am certain they would have won something over the last 8 years. as an arsenal fan i have to reply to this.... you also have to remember that arsenal have also paid for a new stadium in that time... I don't think it would be right if chelsea fans didn't acknowledge that if it wasn't for roman giving chelsea a bottomless money pit (look at their spending in compared to their money received..) you would have been in huge debt... you'd basically be leeds/portsmouth Like I said, I wasn't having a go at Arsenal, but they have 140M in the bank, and making profit every year. All I said was that if they had channelled some of that into players, I think they would have won something substantial in the last 8 years. Do you not think so?" Of course would have improved chances but you could do a Tottenham and spend almost 100 million and still get nowhere near winning anything. With the likes of chelski and the Manchester clubs spending so much, spending big doesn't guarantee anything | |||
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"Great tackical display by Mourinho, players never gave up, but the fantastic win was really all down to my mum having the lucky Chelsea embroided tea towel draped over the mantelpiece." Please ask her to keep it there for the rest of the season! | |||
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