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Building Information Modelling (BIM)

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By *rinking-in-la OP   Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

In an attempt to create the most boring thread ever...

What are peoples views on how BIM has changed the UK building industry and how does it set us im relation to other countries?

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By *uud 4-funMan
over a year ago

Dartford

Just a new name for 'quantity surveying' innit?

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By *rinking-in-la OP   Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Could you elaborate?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Neither use nor ornament when the NBS Create hasn't been rolled out properly, Revit doesn't yet support NBS Create, and the client is only looking for "cheap" key turn accounting, despite the 2020 agreement.

Bring back the drawing board and TSquare...

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By *rinking-in-la OP   Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

What about aiding 4 and 5d procurement from the contractors side? The enabling of turning the consultant or architect's design into a prefabbed DFMA set and accurate virtual build?

What will it take for a client to be able to use a BIM model for FM and the old stage M?

How do you think the new RIBA plan of work will enable or make more difficult the natural BIM workflow?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Can't they just make the models out of cereal boxes?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Can't they just make the models out of cereal boxes?

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And the houses out of ticky tacky?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Can't they just make the models out of cereal boxes?

And the houses out of ticky tacky?"

So they all look the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can't they just make the models out of cereal boxes?

And the houses out of ticky tacky?

So they all look the same.

"

That's the Artichoke's fault... Nothing to do with me...

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Can't they just make the models out of cereal boxes?

And the houses out of ticky tacky?

So they all look the same.

That's the Artichoke's fault... Nothing to do with me..."

I didn't know artichokes did the drawings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can't they just make the models out of cereal boxes?

And the houses out of ticky tacky?

So they all look the same.

That's the Artichoke's fault... Nothing to do with me...

I didn't know artichokes did the drawings.

"

"Pretty piccies" Yes...

"Drawings..." Naaaaah...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a great idea, will most likely suffer in the implementation though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

BIM's the buzz word of the moment if you deal with spatial planning or location analysis, which I do

Everything happens somewhere

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

BIM is fine as long as its used for what it was intended which is to provide co ordination information and represent the "as built" product.

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By *rinking-in-la OP   Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"BIM is fine as long as its used for what it was intended which is to provide co ordination information and represent the "as built" product."

What about at feasibility and preliminary design stages? Should the model start at feasibly and make its way through to FM?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I suppose it can be but I do not see the need for the expense at the concept stages but maybe after RIBA stage C as recently amended.

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By *rinking-in-la OP   Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Yes I suppose it can be but I do not see the need for the expense at the concept stages but maybe after RIBA stage C as recently amended."

A fair point.

But is there not a potential to model plant space etc in 3d at stage C using revit etc that would have to be repeated at D to G and potentially a saving there?

Turns out this thread piqued more interest than I thought it would. I am not as boring as I assumed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes I suppose it can be but I do not see the need for the expense at the concept stages but maybe after RIBA stage C as recently amended.

A fair point.

But is there not a potential to model plant space etc in 3d at stage C using revit etc that would have to be repeated at D to G and potentially a saving there?

Turns out this thread piqued more interest than I thought it would. I am not as boring as I assumed. "
All depends on the complexity of the building. I am on a project now where BIM is being used at project proposal stage to ensure all the service designs are coordinated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it gets all the stakeholders talking and keeping talking as early as possible then there are potential benefits all the way from concept to demolition.

Trouble will be that some firms will use system A some system B etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes but you do not want to use a sledge hammer to crack a nut!

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By *rinking-in-la OP   Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"If it gets all the stakeholders talking and keeping talking as early as possible then there are potential benefits all the way from concept to demolition.

Trouble will be that some firms will use system A some system B etc."

Aye. That is an issue. Architects are particularly adept at software diversity. Unfortunately MEP only have a choice of 1 package. I wonder when that market will grow?

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