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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts

about the rape crisis in southe africa, allegedly there is a rape comitted every 4 mins, which, in itself is bad enough.

but the part that drew my attention was the interview with a 16 year old rape victim who is 6 months pregnant with the rapists child (who she did not know)

surely, a female rape victim by persons unknown would have the child aborted as soon as possible after the rape.

any thoughts??

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I think it's a very complex issue. She may be Catholic, which could pose a problem. She may believe life is life. There could be all sorts of reasons.

Perhaps she's hoping the baby takes after the father and so can point him out on a line up?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

To some a abortion is more shameful than the actual rape therefore won't have an abortion. Abortions is still a very taboo subject and there are those that are totally against them...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"about the rape crisis in southe africa, allegedly there is a rape comitted every 4 mins, which, in itself is bad enough.

but the part that drew my attention was the interview with a 16 year old rape victim who is 6 months pregnant with the rapists child (who she did not know)

surely, a female rape victim by persons unknown would have the child aborted as soon as possible after the rape.

any thoughts??"

I think its a no brainer,get rid.

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By *oody39Man
over a year ago

tunbridge wells

I know some of the Muslim extremists believe abortion to be evil. Rhetorically chances are in some of these Countries she would probably end up being stoned to death for it.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I think it's a very complex issue. She may be Catholic, which could pose a problem. She may believe life is life. There could be all sorts of reasons.

Perhaps she's hoping the baby takes after the father and so can point him out on a line up?"

And maybe the 'service' is not available to her, either because of cost or simply lack of availability.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She may be religious. The Muslim and Christian faiths don't allow abortions.

She may not have realised she was pregnant until it was far too late to have an abortion.

She may live in a remote place where such operations are not available.

She simply may not have wanted one, she could be wise beyond her years and can separate her feelings for her child from the awful thing that has happened to her.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I know some of the Muslim extremists believe abortion to be evil. Rhetorically chances are in some of these Countries she would probably end up being stoned to death for it."

not only a minority of those who follow the Muslim faith are extremists..

other religions equally have extremists within their midst..

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"She may be religious. The Muslim and Christian faiths don't allow abortions.

She may not have realised she was pregnant until it was far too late to have an abortion.

She may live in a remote place where such operations are not available.

She simply may not have wanted one, she could be wise beyond her years and can separate her feelings for her child from the awful thing that has happened to her. "

This!

Rape is still a very real part of women's lives across the world and not treated the same across the world.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

is there the provision in South Africa for free health care for terminations..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know some of the Muslim extremists believe abortion to be evil. Rhetorically chances are in some of these Countries she would probably end up being stoned to death for it."

Is she a muslim then?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"She may be religious. The Muslim and Christian faiths don't allow abortions.

She may not have realised she was pregnant until it was far too late to have an abortion.

She may live in a remote place where such operations are not available.

She simply may not have wanted one, she could be wise beyond her years and can separate her feelings for her child from the awful thing that has happened to her.

This!

Rape is still a very real part of women's lives across the world and not treated the same across the world.

"

sadly agree..

if the ratios were reversed and men were raped at the same level you would bet the issue would receive more resources..

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Let's not forget that women in the land of the free also face the same problem in some states where women are castigated for aborting a pregnancy, even when as a result of rape.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She may be religious. The Muslim and Christian faiths don't allow abortions.

She may not have realised she was pregnant until it was far too late to have an abortion.

She may live in a remote place where such operations are not available.

She simply may not have wanted one, she could be wise beyond her years and can separate her feelings for her child from the awful thing that has happened to her. "

This and the fact the child is innocent in all this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"about the rape crisis in southe africa, allegedly there is a rape comitted every 4 mins, which, in itself is bad enough.

but the part that drew my attention was the interview with a 16 year old rape victim who is 6 months pregnant with the rapists child (who she did not know)

surely, a female rape victim by persons unknown would have the child aborted as soon as possible after the rape.

any thoughts??"

My thoughts are that criticising a 16 year old rape victim for what happens post rape, particularly in a society that few if any of us can relate to is judgemental to an extent that is truly unpleasent.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"She may be religious. The Muslim and Christian faiths don't allow abortions.

She may not have realised she was pregnant until it was far too late to have an abortion.

She may live in a remote place where such operations are not available.

She simply may not have wanted one, she could be wise beyond her years and can separate her feelings for her child from the awful thing that has happened to her.

This!

Rape is still a very real part of women's lives across the world and not treated the same across the world.

sadly agree..

if the ratios were reversed and men were raped at the same level you would bet the issue would receive more resources.."

Sexual violence and using women to belittle the enemy in conflict zones, including local gang territories, is still brushed under the carpet.

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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts


"about the rape crisis in southe africa, allegedly there is a rape comitted every 4 mins, which, in itself is bad enough.

but the part that drew my attention was the interview with a 16 year old rape victim who is 6 months pregnant with the rapists child (who she did not know)

surely, a female rape victim by persons unknown would have the child aborted as soon as possible after the rape.

any thoughts??

My thoughts are that criticising a 16 year old rape victim for what happens post rape, particularly in a society that few if any of us can relate to is judgemental to an extent that is truly unpleasent."

at what point have i criticised??

i was merely asking for thoughts on a question, neither was i being judgemental at any point.

this seems to be yet another case of you trying to stir up muddy waters by your comments on what is a perfectly relevant question on a situation that is happening.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let's not forget that women in the land of the free also face the same problem in some states where women are castigated for aborting a pregnancy, even when as a result of rape.

"

Walk passed any abortion clinic and you'll find "Christians" picketing it and judging people that they don't know in the name of God.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"about the rape crisis in southe africa, allegedly there is a rape comitted every 4 mins, which, in itself is bad enough.

but the part that drew my attention was the interview with a 16 year old rape victim who is 6 months pregnant with the rapists child (who she did not know)

surely, a female rape victim by persons unknown would have the child aborted as soon as possible after the rape.

any thoughts??

My thoughts are that criticising a 16 year old rape victim for what happens post rape, particularly in a society that few if any of us can relate to is judgemental to an extent that is truly unpleasent.

at what point have i criticised??

i was merely asking for thoughts on a question, neither was i being judgemental at any point.

this seems to be yet another case of you trying to stir up muddy waters by your comments on what is a perfectly relevant question on a situation that is happening."

How is your 3rd paragraph anything other than critical?

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By *ichaelangela OP   Couple
over a year ago

notts


"about the rape crisis in southe africa, allegedly there is a rape comitted every 4 mins, which, in itself is bad enough.

but the part that drew my attention was the interview with a 16 year old rape victim who is 6 months pregnant with the rapists child (who she did not know)

surely, a female rape victim by persons unknown would have the child aborted as soon as possible after the rape.

any thoughts??

My thoughts are that criticising a 16 year old rape victim for what happens post rape, particularly in a society that few if any of us can relate to is judgemental to an extent that is truly unpleasent.

at what point have i criticised??

i was merely asking for thoughts on a question, neither was i being judgemental at any point.

this seems to be yet another case of you trying to stir up muddy waters by your comments on what is a perfectly relevant question on a situation that is happening.

How is your 3rd paragraph anything other than critical?"

the word surely is as a question, not an accusation

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Let's not forget that women in the land of the free also face the same problem in some states where women are castigated for aborting a pregnancy, even when as a result of rape.

Walk passed any abortion clinic and you'll find "Christians" picketing it and judging people that they don't know in the name of God."

My now dead aunt turned fundamental evangelical when she moved to Texas. She spouted awful things like "all those aborted babies are waiting to condemn their mothers when they try to enter heaven" and worse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know some of the Muslim extremists believe abortion to be evil. Rhetorically chances are in some of these Countries she would probably end up being stoned to death for it."

Not sure where Muslims came into this? Last time I checked Islam wasn't anywhere close to being the predominant religion in South Africa. It's far more likely she's Christian

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People make it sound as though abortion is an easy decision. That, itself is hard enough to deal with, with the added stigma that the child's father is a rapist.

...at the end of the day, the child did not do anything. The child is innocent and could be a blessing in disguise for the mother.

You can never judge someone in these situations or expect them to behave in a certain way. Would your response be the same if someone was to be raped by their husband, their boyfriends or an ex?

And on a side note. Have you heard about what's been happening in the UK lately? A teenager raped his own mum somewhere up North. Another raped his own sister, and is now walking free as he is not a threat to society.

...maybe we should look closer to home and be more concerned about what's happening here. Like i say 'fix your own home first, before you start fixing someone elses home'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let's not forget that women in the land of the free also face the same problem in some states where women are castigated for aborting a pregnancy, even when as a result of rape.

Walk passed any abortion clinic and you'll find "Christians" picketing it and judging people that they don't know in the name of God.

My now dead aunt turned fundamental evangelical when she moved to Texas. She spouted awful things like "all those aborted babies are waiting to condemn their mothers when they try to enter heaven" and worse.

"

There's a clinic down by Tottenham Court Road and I've spoken to the people that picket it about why they think their behavior is acceptable or appropriate. Safe to say they aren't open to discussion and asking them how reducing people to tears and abusing the staff fit's in with their beliefs doesn;t go down well.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Let's not forget that women in the land of the free also face the same problem in some states where women are castigated for aborting a pregnancy, even when as a result of rape.

Walk passed any abortion clinic and you'll find "Christians" picketing it and judging people that they don't know in the name of God.

My now dead aunt turned fundamental evangelical when she moved to Texas. She spouted awful things like "all those aborted babies are waiting to condemn their mothers when they try to enter heaven" and worse.

There's a clinic down by Tottenham Court Road and I've spoken to the people that picket it about why they think their behavior is acceptable or appropriate. Safe to say they aren't open to discussion and asking them how reducing people to tears and abusing the staff fit's in with their beliefs doesn;t go down well."

I know the one and have had similar conversations.

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