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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Apparently an England footballer is coming out as gay in Sundays papers...guarantee it's lallana, been saying it for months! Who do you reckon it is?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

What a brave person whoever it is...and good for them

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By *oobsandballsMan
over a year ago

st andrews

I look forward to the day someone's sexual orientation isn't news

It's also none of our business. The government destroying our health system or political unrest abroad, that's news

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Good luck to him!!!! It's a brave move, as homophobic chanting etc is still rife at matches, and it's still an environment for many that's not comfortable. Thanks also to the ex Villa player Thomas Hitzlsperger, who may have helped pave the way for this.

We've got him amongst the following -

Ashley Cole

Chris Smalling

Daniel Sturridge

Gary Cahill

Glen Johnson

Jack Wilshere

Joe Hart

Jordan Henderson

Raheem Sterling

Steven Gerrard

Wayne Rooney

Adam Lallana

Andros Townsend

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

Danny Welbeck

Such a sweet day, when this happens!

All anal is an anagram of one name, of course.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Completely agree,it doesn't make a blind but if difference. The sooner people realise this the better....but it's Defo lallana haha

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By *lassyandadventurousMan
over a year ago

England and Wales

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

So they will only be gay on a Sunday?

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By *lassyandadventurousMan
over a year ago

England and Wales

Its not important i agree but whoever it is i hope he dont end up acting up like graham norton etc...

Keep it to yourself i say as i dont want to hear about some blokes personal life.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Its not important i agree but whoever it is i hope he dont end up acting up like graham norton etc...

Keep it to yourself i say as i dont want to hear about some blokes personal life.

do you say the same to your mates when they start talking about the latest bird they banged at the weekend or the fights they've been in or any other matcho crap?

they'll act how they act and you have no right telling them otherwise.

homophobia in sport is a terrible thing. you can be a philanderer, woman beater, druggy etc but you dare to love another man and you ain't welcome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its Vidic!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I don't understand why someone's sexuality is anyone else's concern

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All the time there are people around that may have a vested interest in exploiting information like that because its deemed newsworthy or scandalous then there's always going to be people that feel the need to come out through the media before someone else says something....its sad really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is the fact that some people have sex with the same sex still a 'thing' in 200-and-fucking-4?

Although, I guess the demographic of people who 'don't care' also 'read papers online' so, meh.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is the fact that some people have sex with the same sex still a 'thing' in 200-and-fucking-4?

Although, I guess the demographic of people who 'don't care' also 'read papers online' so, meh."

No mate,it's not a "thing" in 2000 and fucking 14 either

Could look at it 2 ways,firstly well played for coming out and being brave enough to do it now rather than after his career is over like most do.

Or secondly, why come out at all? I've never seen anyone reveal to the papers that they're straight! Doesn't matter to me,if they do a job on the pitch then they should play

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

i do agree that this is no one elses business and can see that perhaps he is doing it with the right information before someone else does it with the wrong information.

Although its not right to force being a role model on anyone i do feel that if more sportsmen and women were more open about sexuality it would become less of a thing sooner.

perhaps the people that should take responsibility for this not being a thing is the media. if they dnt run the stories people wont want to out others for minor fame and a chance to be on celeb big brother or in the jungle or money

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"So they will only be gay on a Sunday?

Hahaha,possibly....although even god had a rest on Sunday

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well to be fair they probably couldn't Nancy about anymore on the field if they all tried anyway so I don't see any change to the game only the player and if he can manage to kick the ball in the back of the net then fk it he's as good as the rest no matter what team he bats for

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"i do agree that this is no one elses business and can see that perhaps he is doing it with the right information before someone else does it with the wrong information.

Although its not right to force being a role model on anyone i do feel that if more sportsmen and women were more open about sexuality it would become less of a thing sooner.

If we didn't buy the papers they wouldn't print it. This thread in itself is proof that to many a sportsman being gay is still news and worthy of comment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its not important i agree but whoever it is i hope he dont end up acting up like graham norton etc...

Keep it to yourself i say as i dont want to hear about some blokes personal life.

What's wrong with how "graham norton etc" act?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is the fact that some people have sex with the same sex still a 'thing' in 200-and-fucking-4?

Although, I guess the demographic of people who 'don't care' also 'read papers online' so, meh.

No mate,it's not a "thing" in 2000 and fucking 14 either

Could look at it 2 ways,firstly well played for coming out and being brave enough to do it now rather than after his career is over like most do.

Or secondly, why come out at all? I've never seen anyone reveal to the papers that they're straight! Doesn't matter to me,if they do a job on the pitch then they should play

If it doesn't matter, then why, as per your earlier posts have you been speculating for months as to the sexuality of 1 player? And why start a thread purely to share that speculation? Surely that suggests it actually matters quite a lot to you?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is the fact that some people have sex with the same sex still a 'thing' in 200-and-fucking-4?

Although, I guess the demographic of people who 'don't care' also 'read papers online' so, meh.

No mate,it's not a "thing" in 2000 and fucking 14 either

Could look at it 2 ways,firstly well played for coming out and being brave enough to do it now rather than after his career is over like most do.

Or secondly, why come out at all? I've never seen anyone reveal to the papers that they're straight! Doesn't matter to me,if they do a job on the pitch then they should play

Because i can

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well said.

But, until people stop buying the Sunday gossip rags, they'll keep printing these non event stories !!

"I look forward to the day someone's sexual orientation isn't news

It's also none of our business. The government destroying our health system or political unrest abroad, that's news "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally (him) i really dont give a fuck, i pays me money to watch football because i enjoy the sport and if someone feels the need to "Come out" then that is their decision and wont affect my life at all

Sir Bobby Moore

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well to be fair they probably couldn't Nancy about anymore on the field if they all tried anyway "

Jesus christ

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sun have denied they are running a gay England footballer story. Just social media Chinese whispers.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

see my post in the England World Cup squad I posted yesterday.

It is a rumour but I saw it on a twitter feed for a Sun journo. It was along the lines of 'Current England International who played on Wednesday'.

England Ladies Played wendesday - Could be a female.

If it is true and a male it will heap huge pressure on the manager to pick them in the squad as not to be seen as homophobic.

It's ok saying its 2014 and why are we talking about it etc but it has to start somewhere dosen't it.

Maybe in 50 years when a player approaches the press to run a story like this the papers say 'No thanks it won't sell any papers, not big news anymore'. But to get there it has to start somewhere.

That is, if theres any truth in it - if the sun have come out and denied it then it probably is false.

If true, then it's not any Liverpool players

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

If he is coming out by his own choice...

if he is coming out to minimise his outing by someone else, then that is sad.

good luck to him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As someone further up said - I look forward to the day that someone sexuality is no longer considered newsworthy.

But more than that, I look forward to a day when someone sexuality is no longer seen as as a way to define them - either by other people or the person themselves. Someones sexuality is a part of who they are - not WHO they are.

I dont want people to have to 'come out', 'stay in' or have to make a choice either way. I dont need to know if someone is gay, straight, bi or objectophiliac in order to form an opinion of them. I dont want people to define themselves (or limit themselves) by sexuality.

I look forward to the day when sexual orientation is treated with complete indifference by everyone except the individual and those they choose to sleep with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is a good thing that in general our society is aspiring to an ideal that makes it truly inclusive. As some have said it is not until stories like this are not news worthy that we can believe we've made a big stride in that aspiration.

Every journey does need the first step though, every first step in a new direction is 'news'. First black footballers to represent then even captain England were massive stories. Now black inclusion in the England team is the norm.

It shouldn't matter if someone chooses to come out, but the reality of our society is that it does. That first step should always be applauded because it is usually a brave step and gets society a little closer to its goals.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why do high-profile people have to announce their coming-out in the media?

This is the 21st century for god's sake! Live and let live.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is the fact that some people have sex with the same sex still a 'thing' in 200-and-fucking-4?

Although, I guess the demographic of people who 'don't care' also 'read papers online' so, meh.

No mate,it's not a "thing" in 2000 and fucking 14 either

Could look at it 2 ways,firstly well played for coming out and being brave enough to do it now rather than after his career is over like most do.

Or secondly, why come out at all? I've never seen anyone reveal to the papers that they're straight! Doesn't matter to me,if they do a job on the pitch then they should play

Because i can"

Thank's for the clarification

I guess it's perfectly normal to speculate about someones sexuality for months (your words not mine) just because you can while not actually being remotely interested

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

This should be a non-story, but instead it is of interest.

I look forward to the day when people can be accepted for who they are without having to worry about other people feeling the need to judge or belittle them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This should be a non-story, but instead it is of interest.

I look forward to the day when people can be accepted for who they are without having to worry about other people feeling the need to judge or belittle them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This should be a non-story, but instead it is of interest.

I look forward to the day when people can be accepted for who they are without having to worry about other people feeling the need to judge or belittle them.

agreed but things are slowly improving I can remember when the only thing worse than being gay was being bi lol . football particularly premiership have been allowed to get away with being homophobic for far too long

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

don't care who it is I just hope that whoever it is lives happily and ignores all the sad people who have nothing else to do but concern themselves with who he has sex with !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Apparently an England footballer is coming out as gay in Sundays papers...guarantee it's lallana, been saying it for months! Who do you reckon it is? "
...Gazzer he is EX England does that count??.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not got the stigma attached to it like it had in the past. Hardly what I'd call a big story. Coming out those days is nowhere near as brave as it was in the past.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"It's not got the stigma attached to it like it had in the past. Hardly what I'd call a big story. Coming out those days is nowhere near as brave as it was in the past."

i dont know, i think the advent of social media has meant that the abuse and negativity can be sent from further afield and 24/7 so it has different challenges now a days but sadly it is still a big hurdle for some to overcome.

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