FabSwingers.com forum: mobile speed cameras

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

How much do you hate them? Out of ten

1 being mildly irritated that you have to watch the speedo for the entire time you pass them and until you feel you are out of range

10 being a pure hatred so concentrated that you feel their operators should be named and shamed like paedophiles

Personally I'm roughly an 8-9 I drive fast, but considerately, never up people's arses always maintaining space.

I always flash my lights and notify other users of their presence with headlight flashing for miles down the road.

Also if I was ghey enough to have Facebook I would update my status to their presence.

What are your thoughts?

I'm not interested to hear from people who like them. Those people are total James 'Blunts'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Speed limits are there all the time. Not just when mobile speed cameras are there.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Speed limits are there all the time. Not just when mobile speed cameras are there.

I always love your replies, they're always so witty and fun, with undertones of mischief

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You "drive fast but considerare" but clearly not in consideration of the laws of the road. How does that work?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You "drive fast but considerare" but clearly not in consideration of the laws of the road. How does that work?"

No 'considerately' I rarely go more than 10mph over the limit, but that seems to be standard on motorways etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have no hatred for speed cameras as I stay within the speed limits, it's really simples. When I were younger n more stupid, unused to drive fast but worked out it really doesn't get you anywhere significantly faster.

Try working it out on a journey, you'll be surprised how little difference it makes.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Have no hatred for speed cameras as I stay within the speed limits, it's really simples. When I were younger n more stupid, unused to drive fast but worked out it really doesn't get you anywhere significantly faster.

Try working it out on a journey, you'll be surprised how little difference it makes. "

I know, but it's really hard in modern cars not to creep over the limit. I don't mind static cameras or police vehicles, but the mobiles just seem to cheat and ambush rather than deter

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

try driving a hgv where our limits are different to those posted for cars 40mph on single carriageways ques of cars behind making risky overtakes as the road is national speed limit but we have to trundle along at 40 push your speed up and bang a scamera van has you and its 3 points and your out of a job

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you still driving consideratly when your doing 40 in a 30 and kill a child????

A concerned parent who passionately hates people stupid enough to speed!!!!

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By *ickstartmyheart103Man
over a year ago

near the east coast

Just stick too the speed limit,it there for a reason even if you don't like it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"try driving a hgv where our limits are different to those posted for cars 40mph on single carriageways ques of cars behind making risky overtakes as the road is national speed limit but we have to trundle along at 40 push your speed up and bang a scamera van has you and its 3 points and your out of a job "

I can't even imagine how difficult that is and the level if concentration required. Mobile cameras are just wrong. My gripe is that they arnt a safety camera as much as they are a trap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try working it out on a journey, you'll be surprised how little difference it makes.

I know, but it's really hard in modern cars not to creep over the limit. I don't mind static cameras or police vehicles, but the mobiles just seem to cheat and ambush rather than deter"

Good point about the cars. Some cars are too powerful. Why the heck they make cars like that I don't know. Not saying cars should be sluggish. Just more realistic.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Noi bothered by them. Not going to preach because at times I do go over the speed limit but then I know the risks if I do and I get caught. I can't stand people who try and weasle out of a legitimate fine. They know they were speeding,no one forces people to speed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's the point tho' they're like that to trap the speeders.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know, but it's really hard in modern cars not to creep over the limit. "

Sorry but that statement simply does not stand up to scrutiny and says more about your driving than it does about modern cars.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Try working it out on a journey, you'll be surprised how little difference it makes.

I know, but it's really hard in modern cars not to creep over the limit. I don't mind static cameras or police vehicles, but the mobiles just seem to cheat and ambush rather than deter

Good point about the cars. Some cars are too powerful. Why the heck they make cars like that I don't know. Not saying cars should be sluggish. Just more realistic."

If you can't drive a powerful car don't buy one. What is it they say about a workman and their tools?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Are you still driving consideratly when your doing 40 in a 30 and kill a child????

A concerned parent who passionately hates people stupid enough to speed!!!!

So you never ever speed ever? There was talk about speed limits being raised to 80 and I think it's a great idea. Obviously in 30 zones it's down to sensibility, the same with 60mph on country lanes, it would be suicidal to go at 60 but it's not against the law.

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

I think the Authorities that operate these cameras have to issue a timetable of where and when the cameras will be operating.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Try working it out on a journey, you'll be surprised how little difference it makes.

I know, but it's really hard in modern cars not to creep over the limit. I don't mind static cameras or police vehicles, but the mobiles just seem to cheat and ambush rather than deter

Good point about the cars. Some cars are too powerful. Why the heck they make cars like that I don't know. Not saying cars should be sluggish. Just more realistic.

If you can't drive a powerful car don't buy one. What is it they say about a workman and their tools?"

But most cars have the ability to speed? So the power issue isn't really relevant

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think the Authorities that operate these cameras have to issue a timetable of where and when the cameras will be operating."

This. That way it would be a deterrent rather than a trap. It's a tax as far as I'm concerned.

It's also been proven they actually cause accidents

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've spent 20 years picking up the pieces after accidents, cutting live and dead people out of cars and seeing things I'd really rather forget. Usually these accidents are a result of excess speed so I think speed cameras should be there and if you obey the rules then they're not a problem. If you want to drive fast, go on a track day as its often the innocent people that get hit by a speeding driver that suffer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try working it out on a journey, you'll be surprised how little difference it makes.

I know, but it's really hard in modern cars not to creep over the limit. I don't mind static cameras or police vehicles, but the mobiles just seem to cheat and ambush rather than deter

Good point about the cars. Some cars are too powerful. Why the heck they make cars like that I don't know. Not saying cars should be sluggish. Just more realistic.

If you can't drive a powerful car don't buy one. What is it they say about a workman and their tools?"

That's why my car is a piddly thing that does 0 - 20 in 10 minutes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think the Authorities that operate these cameras have to issue a timetable of where and when the cameras will be operating.

This. That way it would be a deterrent rather than a trap. It's a tax as far as I'm concerned.

It's also been proven they actually cause accidents"

Out of interest any idea in how many accidents speeding is proven as a factor in the cause?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What about the people who come flying up your ass on a motorway, as your traveling at 70- overtaking, then decide to move closer to the central reservation, showing you their off side headlight!!! Trying to get past!!

Is that because their cars are just too powerfull to handle???

Or people screaming through the towns

Is that cause cars creep past the speed limit???

No it's the muppets who just can't control them, it's easy to drive fast in a straight line, but put a kid in the road and then your in trouble

We would not need speed cameras at all if people were considerate enough to obey the law!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think the Authorities that operate these cameras have to issue a timetable of where and when the cameras will be operating.

This. That way it would be a deterrent rather than a trap. It's a tax as far as I'm concerned.

It's also been proven they actually cause accidents

Out of interest any idea in how many accidents speeding is proven as a factor in the cause?"

It was definitely the camera that caused the accident. Not the car doing 100mph.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"I think the Authorities that operate these cameras have to issue a timetable of where and when the cameras will be operating.

This. That way it would be a deterrent rather than a trap. It's a tax as far as I'm concerned.

It's also been proven they actually cause accidents"

No it wouldn't. It would just. Let the speeders know when no it to drive down a certain road. That's not a deterrent a deterrent is a surprise stationing issuing fines and points

I personally don't think speed cameras should be advertised and bright yellow. People slam on their breaks when they see the which is very dangerous

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

Out of interest any idea in how many accidents speeding is proven as a factor in the cause?"

That's always a difficult one, its like saying every accident is caused by the nut behind the wheel. Most traffic officers will tell you that it is the inappropriate use of speed that is a factor, driving at the speed limit is insane in some conditions. Of course cameras have no judgement in these matter.

I think we need to get back to a man with a flag walking in front of each vehicle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jester I don't speed!!! I drive within my vans limit!! I save fuel on the duel carriageways, @ 60mph usually and 70 when overtaking

Through town I rarely need to drive at 30 as you just can't where I live,

On a roads I tend to drive at 55mph

I leave for work early enough,, I plan my route, I have enough respect for people not to speed like a moron

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Speed Camera operators are just doing a job... Something that shouldn't even be needed really if people show the consideration for safety.

Limits are there for a reason.

If I speed and I got caught then it would by my fault... Nothing against them at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *udie_GirlTV/TS
over a year ago

Rochdale

Not sure if they come into the same catagory, but have nothing but contempt for those little camera cars (sometimes smart cars) operated by local councils who do nothing but raise revenue by catching people dropping passengers off by stopping for 30 seconds, getting caught swerving into a bus lane to let an ambulance through etc. AND they do it all by parking illegally. Before anyone says otherwise, no, I've never been caught out by one.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Look at the 'autobahn' no speed limit, and a great safety record.

Just as many accidents are caused by real law breakers such as drink/drug drivers.

Also how many are caused by dithering people braking unnecessarily?

How many by frustrated people overtaking because the car in front is sitting in the overtaking lane doing 65?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The speed cameras them selves are not the problem. It's the limit is too low on some stretches of road. Motorist sees it a clear no risk road, so speed up a bit, but it's this bit of read the vans sit and catch.

When was the last time you saw one outside a school, or town center or housing estate????

Guess we should be campaigning for a better limits on roads or soon every single lane will be 30.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think the Authorities that operate these cameras have to issue a timetable of where and when the cameras will be operating.

This. That way it would be a deterrent rather than a trap. It's a tax as far as I'm concerned.

It's also been proven they actually cause accidents

No it wouldn't. It would just. Let the speeders know when no it to drive down a certain road. That's not a deterrent a deterrent is a surprise stationing issuing fines and points

I personally don't think speed cameras should be advertised and bright yellow. People slam on their breaks when they see the which is very dangerous"

Agree. Speed cameras should be everywhere and totally hidden.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No such thing as an overtaking lane!!!

And unnecessary braking???? Why are you so close?? The braking could be necessary to the car in front???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And, d*unk/drugged drivers, those people trying to escape the police, not one of them will pay any attention to the speed limits and how many of them when caught get done for speeding, lololol, non

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Look at the 'autobahn' no speed limit, and a great safety record.

Just as many accidents are caused by real law breakers such as drink/drug drivers.

Also how many are caused by dithering people braking unnecessarily?

How many by frustrated people overtaking because the car in front is sitting in the overtaking lane doing 65?"

So speeding isn't a "real" law? Do you pick and choose which laws you have to respect?

To be honest, every post you make, reinforces the impression you gave on the first one as a dangerous driver.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is a well documented fact that excess speed alone hardly ever causes accidents. Lack of concentration or, as the courts put it, "driving without due care and attention" is however a frequent cause of accidents.

I tend to drive, at times when it is safe to do so, over the limit on non-urban roads. That is because my concentration is heightened because I am on the outlook for police and cameras as well as road risks.

I believe that I am more aware and safer that way than those that drift in a dream from lane to lane at 69.9mph because their perception is they are safe.

I also do not hog the middle or outer lane when the inside lane is free.

I have been caught speeding twice in well over 300,000 miles, the last time over 20 years ago. I have never had an accident that was my fault. Each driver has their own safe speed where alertness and speed blend to make a safe drive.

Mobile cameras are fine when they operate in a place that has an accident risk. Some are merely there to collect revenue and they should be scrapped.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And, d*unk/drugged drivers, those people trying to escape the police, not one of them will pay any attention to the speed limits and how many of them when caught get done for speeding, lololol, non"

That's because the speeding offenses wikl be replaced by more serious charges

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you still driving consideratly when your doing 40 in a 30 and kill a child????

A concerned parent who passionately hates people stupid enough to speed!!!!

The road I work on (lollipop lady) is residential and sometimes a nightmare to get the kids across the road. they do speed down it as it is a long road too. in the rain it is even worse and have been near misses with traffic. accidents also at night in the rain won't be long before there is one on the school run

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest, every post you make, reinforces the impression you gave on the first one as a dangerous driver.

To be honest , for once I totally agree with you crystal,, !!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"The speed cameras them selves are not the problem. It's the limit is too low on some stretches of road. Motorist sees it a clear no risk road, so speed up a bit, but it's this bit of read the vans sit and catch.

When was the last time you saw one outside a school, or town center or housing estate????

Guess we should be campaigning for a better limits on roads or soon every single lane will be 30.

Last week.

Its not motorists who determine the speed limits on roads just because they don't like it doesn't mean they shouldn't have to respect it! Iron like having to pay for stuff doesn't mean I can pick and chose who I rob from then get shitty with the police when I get caught does it?

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"Jester I don't speed!!! I drive within my vans limit!! I save fuel on the duel carriageways, @ 60mph usually and 70 when overtaking

Through town I rarely need to drive at 30 as you just can't where I live,

On a roads I tend to drive at 55mph

I leave for work early enough,, I plan my route, I have enough respect for people not to speed like a moron"
may i ask how big your van is and is it car derived ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you still driving consideratly when your doing 40 in a 30 and kill a child????

A concerned parent who passionately hates people stupid enough to speed!!!!

There is no excuse for speeding near a school. Urban roads should be treated with great care and alertness.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Look at the 'autobahn' no speed limit, and a great safety record.

Just as many accidents are caused by real law breakers such as drink/drug drivers.

Also how many are caused by dithering people braking unnecessarily?

How many by frustrated people overtaking because the car in front is sitting in the overtaking lane doing 65?"

The autobahn does have speed limits, and accidents.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a 1 for me I I don't really get pissed off about things

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

may i ask how big your van is and is it car derived ?

I drive a citroen dispatch mid sized van, non turbo 1.9 diesel,

But what difference does car derived make????

A motor vehicle is a weapon no matter if is a car, motorbike or truck!

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

If people choose to break the law and they get caught they shouldn't then whine about it not being fair. They are adults making a choice. With choices come consequences.

Get caught speeding? Regardless of how, you broke the law, suck it up.

People bang on about their 'rights' yet give little thought to what responsibilities they have.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

By DB9 Queen Woman

1 minute ago!

Manchester

If people choose to break the law and they get caught they shouldn't then whine about it not being fair. They are adults making a choice. With choices come consequences.

Get caught speeding? Regardless of how, you broke the law, suck it up.

People bang on about their 'rights' yet give little thought to what responsibilities they have.

very true!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

By DB9 Queen Woman

1 minute ago!

Manchester

If people choose to break the law and they get caught they shouldn't then whine about it not being fair. They are adults making a choice. With choices come consequences.

Get caught speeding? Regardless of how, you broke the law, suck it up.

People bang on about their 'rights' yet give little thought to what responsibilities they have.

very true!"

You know there's a quote button don't you?? Next to the reply button. Makes it much easier to read.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be honest, every post you make, reinforces the impression you gave on the first one as a dangerous driver.

To be honest , for once I totally agree with you crystal,, !!"

Totally agree x maybe He's miffed he's got caught x

Average speed cameras are a fairer system though

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By *ouple_SpondonCouple
over a year ago

Spondon

I always flash my lights and notify other users of their presence with headlight flashing for miles down the road. "

As you obviously don't think doing 10mph over the speed limit is a problem i'm going to assume you're not aware (or don't care) that flashing other motorists with your lights or relevant hand signals to warn others of speed enforcement is a more serious offence than someone who is speeding!! I think it's perverting the course of justice or something....

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

By DB9 Queen Woman

1 minute ago!

Manchester

If people choose to break the law and they get caught they shouldn't then whine about it not being fair. They are adults making a choice. With choices come consequences.

Get caught speeding? Regardless of how, you broke the law, suck it up.

People bang on about their 'rights' yet give little thought to what responsibilities they have.

very true!"

You know there's a quote button don't you?? Next to the reply button. Makes it much easier to read.

A quote button ??? Where ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I totally disagree

The police put signs up warning you , you are in a speed trap area, the cameras are painted yellow.

The mobile vans are big, and white and have red / yellow chevrons on them usually parked randomly and easy to spot . Police cars have massive lights on top and various reflective parts.

Police officers have to wear high viz when standing on the side of the road doing speed traps.

Your sat nav will tell you that your approaching a speed trap.

It's a simple case of reading the road ahead ,

what more do you want the police to do

This is supposed to add common sense to the conversation not criticise anyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you still driving consideratly when your doing 40 in a 30 and kill a child????

A concerned parent who passionately hates people stupid enough to speed!!!!

There is no excuse for speeding near a school. Urban roads should be treated with great care and alertness."

Unfortunately some of the culprits are parents and school taxis. I also have run ins with cyclists too as they can cycle past me while I am stood in the road. I was off sick all last week so I dread to think what went on as they do not send anyone to cover you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jester...if they raised the speed limit you would still go over it ....it's your type that are the 'james blunts'.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"Look at the 'autobahn' no speed limit, and a great safety record.

Just as many accidents are caused by real law breakers such as drink/drug drivers.

Also how many are caused by dithering people braking unnecessarily?

How many by frustrated people overtaking because the car in front is sitting in the overtaking lane doing 65?"

I have driven extensively in Germany. 75% of all autobahns have pretty much the same speed limit we have. Only 25% are unrestricted but they have recommended speed signs (rectangular blue ones) which suggest speed of 135kph (or is it 130?) Which is around 80mph. They are also considering applying speed limits to the whole autobahn network due to the death toll. And German autobahns are pretty straight roads unlike a lot of British motorways.

So another myth exploded and another piece of dubious 'evidence' disproven.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry Evie lol, slap my arse later

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"may i ask how big your van is and is it car derived ?

I drive a citroen dispatch mid sized van, non turbo 1.9 diesel,

But what difference does car derived make????

A motor vehicle is a weapon no matter if is a car, motorbike or truck!"

Some. Have 60. Mph limits on dual carriageways and 50 on single carriageways , it's done on the gvw ,

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"may i ask how big your van is and is it car derived ?

I drive a citroen dispatch mid sized van, non turbo 1.9 diesel,

But what difference does car derived make????

A motor vehicle is a weapon no matter if is a car, motorbike or truck!"
if its car derived the speed limits are different than if it isnt as one of my work mates found to his cost 70 on a dual carriageway marked as 70 past a camera van 3points for speeding as he is limited to 60 but he didnt know 3 1/2 tonne Citroen van non car derived thats why i asked as many dont know this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I totally disagree

The police put signs up warning you , you are in a speed trap area, the cameras are painted yellow.

The mobile vans are big, and white and have red / yellow chevrons on them usually parked randomly and easy to spot . Police cars have massive lights on top and various reflective parts.

Police officers have to wear high viz when standing on the side of the road doing speed traps.

Your sat nav will tell you that your approaching a speed trap.

It's a simple case of reading the road ahead ,

what more do you want the police to do

This is supposed to add common sense to the conversation not criticise anyone "

Absolutely correct!!! If you cannot see a f'ing great van with dayglow chevrons on the back then you are not paying attention.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If people choose to break the law and they get caught they shouldn't then whine about it not being fair. They are adults making a choice. With choices come consequences.

Get caught speeding? Regardless of how, you broke the law, suck it up.

People bang on about their 'rights' yet give little thought to what responsibilities they have. "

^^^^^ quite right!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"may i ask how big your van is and is it car derived ?

I drive a citroen dispatch mid sized van, non turbo 1.9 diesel,

But what difference does car derived make????

A motor vehicle is a weapon no matter if is a car, motorbike or truck!if its car derived the speed limits are different than if it isnt as one of my work mates found to his cost 70 on a dual carriageway marked as 70 past a camera van 3points for speeding as he is limited to 60 but he didnt know 3 1/2 tonne Citroen van non car derived thats why i asked as many dont know this "
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No it's done on the gross vehicle weight of the commercial vehicle , two tonnes I beleive . The weight of your van is indicated on the log book

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"may i ask how big your van is and is it car derived ?

I drive a citroen dispatch mid sized van, non turbo 1.9 diesel,

But what difference does car derived make????

No it's done on the gross vehicle weight of the commercial vehicle , two tonnes I beleive . The weight of your van is indicated on the log book"

2.2 tonne, why?

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"I totally disagree

The police put signs up warning you , you are in a speed trap area, the cameras are painted yellow.

The mobile vans are big, and white and have red / yellow chevrons on them usually parked randomly and easy to spot . Police cars have massive lights on top and various reflective parts.

Police officers have to wear high viz when standing on the side of the road doing speed traps.

Your sat nav will tell you that your approaching a speed trap.

It's a simple case of reading the road ahead ,

what more do you want the police to do

This is supposed to add common sense to the conversation not criticise anyone

Absolutely correct!!! If you cannot see a f'ing great van with dayglow chevrons on the back then you are not paying attention."
funny that one regularly parks on the A57 in manchester city center its silver and parks against a gray wall so it blends in i know its there but many dont as by the time you see it your off the fly over and into the 40 limit from 50 and its got you from 1/4 mile away (the distance you have to be clocked for ) am not defending speeders btw as stated put the motoerway limit up to 80 and the loons will do 90

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over a year ago

"may i ask how big your van is and is it car derived ?

I drive a citroen dispatch mid sized van, non turbo 1.9 diesel,

But what difference does car derived make????

No it's done on the gross vehicle weight of the commercial vehicle , two tonnes I beleive . The weight of your van is indicated on the log book

2.2 tonne, why?"

My understanding is your restricted to 60 on dual carriageways and 50 on singles then

I may be wrong might be worth checking saves a speeding fine

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over a year ago

"may i ask how big your van is and is it car derived ?

I drive a citroen dispatch mid sized van, non turbo 1.9 diesel,

But what difference does car derived make????

Yep, I know this regarding 3.5 tonne, transit for example,,, but it's rarely enforced by the police, preferring to stick to standard car and HGv limits, not sure if that's a good thing or not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"may i ask how big your van is and is it car derived ?

I drive a citroen dispatch mid sized van, non turbo 1.9 diesel,

But what difference does car derived make????

No it's done on the gross vehicle weight of the commercial vehicle , two tonnes I beleive . The weight of your van is indicated on the log book

2.2 tonne, why?

My understanding is your restricted to 60 on dual carriageways and 50 on singles then

I may be wrong might be worth checking saves a speeding fine "

It's 3.5 tonne and above as previously quoted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"may i ask how big your van is and is it car derived ?

I drive a citroen dispatch mid sized van, non turbo 1.9 diesel,

But what difference does car derived make????

No it's done on the gross vehicle weight of the commercial vehicle , two tonnes I beleive . The weight of your van is indicated on the log book

2.2 tonne, why?

My understanding is your restricted to 60 on dual carriageways and 50 on singles then

I may be wrong might be worth checking saves a speeding fine

It's 3.5 tonne and above as previously quoted"

I just looked it up as I have a few vans , and I firmly beleive you have made a mistake

My understanding is that goods vehicle between 2 tonnes and 7.5 tonnes are 60 on dual carriageways and 50 on single carriageways. I think a few get confused that a tachograpgh and or keeping a driving hours booklet means your limited to speed,

Google commercial vehicle speed limits uk and please correct me if i am wrong

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Lol at people thinking because they drive slowly they are good drivers.

Basically 95% waffling here that they despise me because I speed are hypocrites.

You very likely speed on a daily basis, 1 mph or 10 mph doesn't make a difference.

I don't care wether its an offence to make other road users aware, it's a risk I take. Also there are websites that do exactly the same by making road users aware of their presence.

And no, I haven't been caught recently. I had a clean license for 8 years then got 6 points immediately, not for speeding or drink/drug or dangerous driving. It was an incident that escalated whilst in a stand still traffic jam.

I just hate three road related things middle lane users going slower than the slow lane, traffic wardens and mobile cameras.

I also dislike hypocrites and arseholes who can't drive but think they are doing the world a favour by crawling around with their faces pressed against the windscreen, veering about with no indication and braking for no reason. I Imagine most of you, especially the geriatrics, acting as though you are law abiding at all times, are in this last bracket.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Lol at people thinking because they drive slowly they are good drivers.

Basically 95% waffling here that they despise me because I speed are hypocrites.

You very likely speed on a daily basis, 1 mph or 10 mph doesn't make a difference.

I don't care wether its an offence to make other road users aware, it's a risk I take. Also there are websites that do exactly the same by making road users aware of their presence.

I just hate three road related things middle lane users going slower than the slow lane, traffic wardens and mobile cameras.

ah and now we have the toddler tantrum, insulting people because people didnt agree with you....classic!

I'll agree that those abiding by the speed limit are not always safer drivers but we are not debating driver ability here. YOU specifically singled out 1 aspect of bad driving and that is an entitlement to speed. If you'd have started a thread about bad drivers then speeding would have been just 1 of many issues that could have been discussed.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Lol at people thinking because they drive slowly they are good drivers.

Basically 95% waffling here that they despise me because I speed are hypocrites.

You very likely speed on a daily basis, 1 mph or 10 mph doesn't make a difference.

I don't care wether its an offence to make other road users aware, it's a risk I take. Also there are websites that do exactly the same by making road users aware of their presence.

I just hate three road related things middle lane users going slower than the slow lane, traffic wardens and mobile cameras.

ah and now we have the toddler tantrum, insulting people because people didnt agree with you....classic!

You agree, but yet your upset because you are the definition of the bracket I'm marginalising?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I commented on this thread earlier. I don't actually drive but know a speeding car or van or lorry when it is heading towards me and I'm stood in the road

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are a revenue collecting exercise. If we're really serious about changing driver behavior then make it inconvenient to people to speed. Initially expose people to pictures /video of speeding accidents /injuries? Further offences meeting willing RTA victims and families and discussion of how it has effected their lives? Otherwise it's just an academic exercise...?

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"If people choose to break the law and they get caught they shouldn't then whine about it not being fair. They are adults making a choice. With choices come consequences.

Get caught speeding? Regardless of how, you broke the law, suck it up.

People bang on about their 'rights' yet give little thought to what responsibilities they have.

^^^^^ quite right!! "

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Lol at people thinking because they drive slowly they are good drivers.

Basically 95% waffling here that they despise me because I speed are hypocrites.

You very likely speed on a daily basis, 1 mph or 10 mph doesn't make a difference.

I don't care wether its an offence to make other road users aware, it's a risk I take. Also there are websites that do exactly the same by making road users aware of their presence.

I just hate three road related things middle lane users going slower than the slow lane, traffic wardens and mobile cameras.

ah and now we have the toddler tantrum, insulting people because people didnt agree with you....classic!

You agree, but yet your upset because you are the definition of the bracket I'm marginalising?"

i am not upset, i think its hilarious that you think that just because people disagreed they are bad drivers.

In fact if you'd have bothered to read all responses you would have seen that i admitted to seeding at times but i dont get pissed off when i get caught. it is very hard to miss speed cameras and mobile vans....they are advertised before you come upon them d ten they are painted bright yellow!

If you choose to break the law then you must accept that the law will choose to try and catch you at it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lol at people thinking because they drive slowly they are good drivers.

Basically 95% waffling here that they despise me because I speed are hypocrites.

You very likely speed on a daily basis, 1 mph or 10 mph doesn't make a difference.

I don't care wether its an offence to make other road users aware, it's a risk I take. Also there are websites that do exactly the same by making road users aware of their presence.

I just hate three road related things middle lane users going slower than the slow lane, traffic wardens and mobile cameras.

You picked up 6 points while stationery?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If people choose to break the law and they get caught they shouldn't then whine about it not being fair. They are adults making a choice. With choices come consequences.

Get caught speeding? Regardless of how, you broke the law, suck it up.

People bang on about their 'rights' yet give little thought to what responsibilities they have. "

Guilty as charged,43yr old never got even a parking ticket,will be getting somethng in the post soon,5am saturday was watching the speed limits,cars always over taking me,as so early and quiet,and the silly daft bat (me) must have missed a sign change,cuz a Yellow box flashed at me,thought it were a 40 obviously a 30 x i will take my punishment i did the crime, not worth spouting of i didnt see the sign,it happened and that is that. Anyway i leave you all to discuss

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"They are a revenue collecting exercise. If we're really serious about changing driver behavior then make it inconvenient to people to speed. Initially expose people to pictures /video of speeding accidents /injuries? Further offences meeting willing RTA victims and families and discussion of how it has effected their lives? Otherwise it's just an academic exercise...? "

THAT is my point. It's a tax. The sheep on here believe everything that is pumped into their drone like minds.

It DOES NOT have any effect on speeding or the causes of speeding.

It doesn't even make roads safer ffs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yet still sufficiently bad to get 6 points

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I commented on this thread earlier. I don't actually drive but know a speeding car or van or lorry when it is heading towards me and I'm stood in the road "

I always stop for lolly pop people if their sign is upright and if they are in the road

, a few in southampton don't quite to seem to have grasped that cars stop when they stand chatting with the sign upright , the one near me is a pain in the arse for that .

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

THAT is my point. It's a tax. The sheep on here believe everything that is pumped into their drone like minds.

It DOES NOT have any effect on speeding or the causes of speeding.

It doesn't even make roads safer ffs. "

had an affect on me, i used to razz about everywhere, leaving late ll the time so speeding up to et places. had a couple of fines and did a course and now i am much calmer on the roads now

oh...and name calling again just makes your argument childish. can you not put a point across without being insulting?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You picked up 6 points while stationery? "

Long story short, I wouldn't let a white van cut into the lane I was in as he had travelled all the way up past stationary traffic in a right turn lane, then decided he wanted to go straight on.

He got pissy followed me and a silly game of him tailgating and me issuing hand signals began.

It came to a head once fully stationary and became a physical altercation. We were both convicted of road offences due to other drivers calling the police.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"If people choose to break the law and they get caught they shouldn't then whine about it not being fair. They are adults making a choice. With choices come consequences.

Get caught speeding? Regardless of how, you broke the law, suck it up.

People bang on about their 'rights' yet give little thought to what responsibilities they have.

^^^^^ quite right!! "

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

THAT is my point. It's a tax. The sheep on here believe everything that is pumped into their drone like minds.

It DOES NOT have any effect on speeding or the causes of speeding.

It doesn't even make roads safer ffs.

had an affect on me, i used to razz about everywhere, leaving late ll the time so speeding up to et places. had a couple of fines and did a course and now i am much calmer on the roads now

oh...and name calling again just makes your argument childish. can you not put a point across without being insulting?"

Where am I name calling exactly? Once, let alone again.

Thanks for letting us know your a reformed speeder it's heart warming indeed

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You picked up 6 points while stationery?

Long story short, I wouldn't let a white van cut into the lane I was in as he had travelled all the way up past stationary traffic in a right turn lane, then decided he wanted to go straight on.

He got pissy followed me and a silly game of him tailgating and me issuing hand signals began.

It came to a head once fully stationary and became a physical altercation. We were both convicted of road offences due to other drivers calling the police.

Quite rightly deserved in my opinion ,

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

THAT is my point. It's a tax. The sheep on here believe everything that is pumped into their drone like minds.

It DOES NOT have any effect on speeding or the causes of speeding.

It doesn't even make roads safer ffs.

had an affect on me, i used to razz about everywhere, leaving late ll the time so speeding up to et places. had a couple of fines and did a course and now i am much calmer on the roads now

oh...and name calling again just makes your argument childish. can you not put a point across without being insulting?

Where am I name calling exactly? Once, let alone again.

Thanks for letting us know your a reformed speeder it's heart warming indeed"

so you think calling people sheep and accusing them of having 'drone like minds' are nice things do you?

And your little paragraph about the driving prowess of those who don't agree with your entitlement to speed wasn't exactly warm and friendly now was it?

i am glad you like my tale, hopefully one day you will be made to go on a course and can share your thoughts.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

THAT is my point. It's a tax. The sheep on here believe everything that is pumped into their drone like minds.

It DOES NOT have any effect on speeding or the causes of speeding.

It doesn't even make roads safer ffs.

had an affect on me, i used to razz about everywhere, leaving late ll the time so speeding up to et places. had a couple of fines and did a course and now i am much calmer on the roads now

oh...and name calling again just makes your argument childish. can you not put a point across without being insulting?

Where am I name calling exactly? Once, let alone again.

Thanks for letting us know your a reformed speeder it's heart warming indeed"

I think calling people sheep with minds like drones could be considered insulting.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You picked up 6 points while stationery?

Long story short, I wouldn't let a white van cut into the lane I was in as he had travelled all the way up past stationary traffic in a right turn lane, then decided he wanted to go straight on.

He got pissy followed me and a silly game of him tailgating and me issuing hand signals began.

It came to a head once fully stationary and became a physical altercation. We were both convicted of road offences due to other drivers calling the police.

Quite rightly deserved in my opinion , "

I don't care about your opinion. Just explaining the situation

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

THAT is my point. It's a tax. The sheep on here believe everything that is pumped into their drone like minds.

It DOES NOT have any effect on speeding or the causes of speeding.

It doesn't even make roads safer ffs.

had an affect on me, i used to razz about everywhere, leaving late ll the time so speeding up to et places. had a couple of fines and did a course and now i am much calmer on the roads now

oh...and name calling again just makes your argument childish. can you not put a point across without being insulting?

Where am I name calling exactly? Once, let alone again.

Thanks for letting us know your a reformed speeder it's heart warming indeed

so you think calling people sheep and accusing them of having 'drone like minds' are nice things do you?

And your little paragraph about the driving prowess of those who don't agree with your entitlement to speed wasn't exactly warm and friendly now was it?

i am glad you like my tale, hopefully one day you will be made to go on a course and can share your thoughts."

Well it's only an insult if its not the case, and if you choose to label yourself as such.

And it's unlikely I'll be going on any courses, as I drive well, and have a marksmans eye for tax vans

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

THAT is my point. It's a tax. The sheep on here believe everything that is pumped into their drone like minds.

It DOES NOT have any effect on speeding or the causes of speeding.

It doesn't even make roads safer ffs.

had an affect on me, i used to razz about everywhere, leaving late ll the time so speeding up to et places. had a couple of fines and did a course and now i am much calmer on the roads now

oh...and name calling again just makes your argument childish. can you not put a point across without being insulting?

Where am I name calling exactly? Once, let alone again.

Thanks for letting us know your a reformed speeder it's heart warming indeed

so you think calling people sheep and accusing them of having 'drone like minds' are nice things do you?

And your little paragraph about the driving prowess of those who don't agree with your entitlement to speed wasn't exactly warm and friendly now was it?

i am glad you like my tale, hopefully one day you will be made to go on a course and can share your thoughts.

Well it's only an insult if its not the case, and if you choose to label yourself as such.

And it's unlikely I'll be going on any courses, as I drive well, and have a marksmans eye for tax vans"
do you also have a marksmans eye for the unmarked traffic car that has been behind you for the last two miles clocking your speeding ?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

THAT is my point. It's a tax. The sheep on here believe everything that is pumped into their drone like minds.

It DOES NOT have any effect on speeding or the causes of speeding.

It doesn't even make roads safer ffs.

had an affect on me, i used to razz about everywhere, leaving late ll the time so speeding up to et places. had a couple of fines and did a course and now i am much calmer on the roads now

oh...and name calling again just makes your argument childish. can you not put a point across without being insulting?

Where am I name calling exactly? Once, let alone again.

Thanks for letting us know your a reformed speeder it's heart warming indeed

so you think calling people sheep and accusing them of having 'drone like minds' are nice things do you?

And your little paragraph about the driving prowess of those who don't agree with your entitlement to speed wasn't exactly warm and friendly now was it?

i am glad you like my tale, hopefully one day you will be made to go on a course and can share your thoughts.

Well it's only an insult if its not the case, and if you choose to label yourself as such.

And it's unlikely I'll be going on any courses, as I drive well, and have a marksmans eye for tax vans"

if i label myself as a sheep how is you calling me a sheep an insult? no wonder you dont understand when you are being insulting if you dont get the concept

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

THAT is my point. It's a tax. The sheep on here believe everything that is pumped into their drone like minds.

It DOES NOT have any effect on speeding or the causes of speeding.

It doesn't even make roads safer ffs.

had an affect on me, i used to razz about everywhere, leaving late ll the time so speeding up to et places. had a couple of fines and did a course and now i am much calmer on the roads now

oh...and name calling again just makes your argument childish. can you not put a point across without being insulting?

Where am I name calling exactly? Once, let alone again.

Thanks for letting us know your a reformed speeder it's heart warming indeed

so you think calling people sheep and accusing them of having 'drone like minds' are nice things do you?

And your little paragraph about the driving prowess of those who don't agree with your entitlement to speed wasn't exactly warm and friendly now was it?

i am glad you like my tale, hopefully one day you will be made to go on a course and can share your thoughts.

Well it's only an insult if its not the case, and if you choose to label yourself as such.

And it's unlikely I'll be going on any courses, as I drive well, and have a marksmans eye for tax vansdo you also have a marksmans eye for the unmarked traffic car that has been behind you for the last two miles clocking your speeding ?"

Unmarked cars don't pull people like me, they are concerned with dangerous, aggressive driving and excessive speeding. So I don't worry at all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

THAT is my point. It's a tax. The sheep on here believe everything that is pumped into their drone like minds.

It DOES NOT have any effect on speeding or the causes of speeding.

It doesn't even make roads safer ffs.

had an affect on me, i used to razz about everywhere, leaving late ll the time so speeding up to et places. had a couple of fines and did a course and now i am much calmer on the roads now

oh...and name calling again just makes your argument childish. can you not put a point across without being insulting?

Where am I name calling exactly? Once, let alone again.

Thanks for letting us know your a reformed speeder it's heart warming indeed

so you think calling people sheep and accusing them of having 'drone like minds' are nice things do you?

And your little paragraph about the driving prowess of those who don't agree with your entitlement to speed wasn't exactly warm and friendly now was it?

i am glad you like my tale, hopefully one day you will be made to go on a course and can share your thoughts.

Well it's only an insult if its not the case, and if you choose to label yourself as such.

And it's unlikely I'll be going on any courses, as I drive well, and have a marksmans eye for tax vans

if i label myself as a sheep how is you calling me a sheep an insult? no wonder you dont understand when you are being insulting if you dont get the concept

Think it's time to stop posting, you need a hobby, or a social circle.

Your replies are repetitive and totally off topic.

I'm sure you'd like the thread to be all about you, but alas it not.

Maybe start your own thread?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ask a traffic officer how he feels after telling a family that their son, daughter, mum, dad etc has just been killed in an accident or ask me how I feel after me and my colleagues have cut a body out of a car because someone thought it was acceptable to speed then wonder if speed cameras are a good or bad thing. They contribute to road safety but are not the answer. Driver education and consideration for other road users and the road conditions all help cut unnecessary road deaths but educating some is impossible.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

THAT is my point. It's a tax. The sheep on here believe everything that is pumped into their drone like minds.

It DOES NOT have any effect on speeding or the causes of speeding.

It doesn't even make roads safer ffs.

had an affect on me, i used to razz about everywhere, leaving late ll the time so speeding up to et places. had a couple of fines and did a course and now i am much calmer on the roads now

oh...and name calling again just makes your argument childish. can you not put a point across without being insulting?

Where am I name calling exactly? Once, let alone again.

Thanks for letting us know your a reformed speeder it's heart warming indeed

so you think calling people sheep and accusing them of having 'drone like minds' are nice things do you?

And your little paragraph about the driving prowess of those who don't agree with your entitlement to speed wasn't exactly warm and friendly now was it?

i am glad you like my tale, hopefully one day you will be made to go on a course and can share your thoughts.

Well it's only an insult if its not the case, and if you choose to label yourself as such.

Unmarked cars don't pull people like me, they are concerned with dangerous, aggressive driving and excessive speeding. So I don't worry at all."
a right so your immune famous last words as they say

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ask a traffic officer how he feels after telling a family that their son, daughter, mum, dad etc has just been killed in an accident or ask me how I feel after me and my colleagues have cut a body out of a car because someone thought it was acceptable to speed then wonder if speed cameras are a good or bad thing. They contribute to road safety but are not the answer. Driver education and consideration for other road users and the road conditions all help cut unnecessary road deaths but educating some is impossible. "

Please don't go there. I've seen more than most. Your agreeing with me like everybody else but then trying to educate me in some way.

I'm not disagreeing with the law, just mobile cameras.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

THAT is my point. It's a tax. The sheep on here believe everything that is pumped into their drone like minds.

It DOES NOT have any effect on speeding or the causes of speeding.

It doesn't even make roads safer ffs.

had an affect on me, i used to razz about everywhere, leaving late ll the time so speeding up to et places. had a couple of fines and did a course and now i am much calmer on the roads now

oh...and name calling again just makes your argument childish. can you not put a point across without being insulting?

Where am I name calling exactly? Once, let alone again.

Thanks for letting us know your a reformed speeder it's heart warming indeed

so you think calling people sheep and accusing them of having 'drone like minds' are nice things do you?

And your little paragraph about the driving prowess of those who don't agree with your entitlement to speed wasn't exactly warm and friendly now was it?

i am glad you like my tale, hopefully one day you will be made to go on a course and can share your thoughts.

Well it's only an insult if its not the case, and if you choose to label yourself as such.

Unmarked cars don't pull people like me, they are concerned with dangerous, aggressive driving and excessive speeding. So I don't worry at all."

You're not aggressive?

Remind us again how you picked up 6 points

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

Please don't go there. I've seen more than most. Your agreeing with me like everybody else but then trying to educate me in some way.

I'm not disagreeing with the law, just mobile cameras."

Mobile cameras enforce the Law, don't speed and you wouldn't need to worry about breaking the Law the mobile cameras enforce!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

THAT is my point. It's a tax. The sheep on here believe everything that is pumped into their drone like minds.

It DOES NOT have any effect on speeding or the causes of speeding.

It doesn't even make roads safer ffs.

had an affect on me, i used to razz about everywhere, leaving late ll the time so speeding up to et places. had a couple of fines and did a course and now i am much calmer on the roads now

oh...and name calling again just makes your argument childish. can you not put a point across without being insulting?

Where am I name calling exactly? Once, let alone again.

Thanks for letting us know your a reformed speeder it's heart warming indeed

so you think calling people sheep and accusing them of having 'drone like minds' are nice things do you?

And your little paragraph about the driving prowess of those who don't agree with your entitlement to speed wasn't exactly warm and friendly now was it?

i am glad you like my tale, hopefully one day you will be made to go on a course and can share your thoughts.

Well it's only an insult if its not the case, and if you choose to label yourself as such.

Unmarked cars don't pull people like me, they are concerned with dangerous, aggressive driving and excessive speeding. So I don't worry at all.a right so your immune famous last words as they say "

Not immune just unlikely to be pulled over as I don't speed excessively. I'm not a 95-100 mph person. But I admit that I regularly drive at 80 mph.

Hilarious I'm getting so many pm's agreeing with me yet, publicly it's all negative auras baby!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Please don't go there. I've seen more than most. Your agreeing with me like everybody else but then trying to educate me in some way.

I'm not disagreeing with the law, just mobile cameras."

You want a law that isn't enforced as well as it could be?

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

I did a speed awareness course the other week. It gives a very insightful view of what the implications of that extra 10 mph, actually do in an accident.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

THAT is my point. It's a tax. The sheep on here believe everything that is pumped into their drone like minds.

It DOES NOT have any effect on speeding or the causes of speeding.

It doesn't even make roads safer ffs.

had an affect on me, i used to razz about everywhere, leaving late ll the time so speeding up to et places. had a couple of fines and did a course and now i am much calmer on the roads now

oh...and name calling again just makes your argument childish. can you not put a point across without being insulting?

Where am I name calling exactly? Once, let alone again.

Thanks for letting us know your a reformed speeder it's heart warming indeed

so you think calling people sheep and accusing them of having 'drone like minds' are nice things do you?

And your little paragraph about the driving prowess of those who don't agree with your entitlement to speed wasn't exactly warm and friendly now was it?

i am glad you like my tale, hopefully one day you will be made to go on a course and can share your thoughts.

Well it's only an insult if its not the case, and if you choose to label yourself as such.

Unmarked cars don't pull people like me, they are concerned with dangerous, aggressive driving and excessive speeding. So I don't worry at all.

You're not aggressive?

Remind us again how you picked up 6 points"

That incident was not entirely my fault. Yes I should've exercised restraint, but hindsight is excellent.

I'm just honest. Most folk on this thread arnt, yet many pm me stating the 'righteous' nature of the thread

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Please don't go there. I've seen more than most. Your agreeing with me like everybody else but then trying to educate me in some way.

I'm not disagreeing with the law, just mobile cameras.

You want a law that isn't enforced as well as it could be?"

Well in that case just install average speed cameras on every single road and thoroughfare.

I want a law that's transparent and fair. Not a sly and profiteering one thanks