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"I think its a sad time when people who dont want to sleep with us black People (or in my case blackish) have to justify that they are not racist. If I see the words "NO BLACK OR ASIAN" I think "fair enough" not "RACIST" I dont generally dig black women... Oh hang on I need to Renew my kkk membership Some people dont find members of a certain ethnicity unattractive, no one should have to justify that. Just my ranty thoughts, what do you guys think? Should we have to Justify are ethnic sexual preferences? " I think you have to add in the factor that there are quite a few, that both dont care what they say to women in any respect... and also those that are too thick to know they are causing unease | |||
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"Chainz the kkk thing was a joke as im black and they no longer exist. I think some people justify to avoid being labelled as a result if simple sexusl preferences" Oh ok sorry. No wonder I can't find out where to join now | |||
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"What is KKK? " Ku klux klan. White supremacy group in america | |||
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"I don't want to meet other cultures. It isn't on my profile as I wasn't sure how to word it politely. Black men have looked at my profile but have not messaged me for their own reasons which is ok. Saves everyone awkwardness. " You did state it on your profile before? Did you take it out? | |||
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"I don't want to meet other cultures. It isn't on my profile as I wasn't sure how to word it politely. Black men have looked at my profile but have not messaged me for their own reasons which is ok. Saves everyone awkwardness. You did state it on your profile before? Did you take it out? " I don't remember if I had it there before I rewrote. Possibly I did | |||
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"I don't want to meet other cultures. It isn't on my profile as I wasn't sure how to word it politely. Black men have looked at my profile but have not messaged me for their own reasons which is ok. Saves everyone awkwardness. You did state it on your profile before? Did you take it out? I don't remember if I had it there before I rewrote. Possibly I did " Yeah you did. | |||
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"The KKK do still exist, and probably always will until the day racism dies." I think they just call themselves the Republican Party now! | |||
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"I think its a sad time when people who dont want to sleep with us black People (or in my case blackish) have to justify that they are not racist. If I see the words "NO BLACK OR ASIAN" I think "fair enough" not "RACIST" I dont generally dig black women... Oh hang on I need to Renew my kkk membership Some people dont find members of a certain ethnicity unattractive, no one should have to justify that. Just my ranty thoughts, what do you guys think? Should we have to Justify are ethnic sexual preferences? " Why don't you generally dig black women? Some would say that is sad but I am sure you have your reasons everybody does. If you then think someone of another race is not allowed to think that way. Is that not double standards? | |||
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"I think its a sad time when people who dont want to sleep with us black People (or in my case blackish) have to justify that they are not racist. If I see the words "NO BLACK OR ASIAN" I think "fair enough" not "RACIST" I dont generally dig black women... Oh hang on I need to Renew my kkk membership Some people dont find members of a certain ethnicity unattractive, no one should have to justify that. Just my ranty thoughts, what do you guys think? Should we have to Justify are ethnic sexual preferences? Why don't you generally dig black women? Some would say that is sad but I am sure you have your reasons everybody does. If you then think someone of another race is not allowed to think that way. Is that not double standards?" He saying it is fine to think that way. I had to read op twice to work it out too lol | |||
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"I think its a sad time when people who dont want to sleep with us black People (or in my case blackish) have to justify that they are not racist. If I see the words "NO BLACK OR ASIAN" I think "fair enough" not "RACIST" I dont generally dig black women... Oh hang on I need to Renew my kkk membership Some people dont find members of a certain ethnicity unattractive, no one should have to justify that. Just my ranty thoughts, what do you guys think? Should we have to Justify are ethnic sexual preferences? Why don't you generally dig black women? Some would say that is sad but I am sure you have your reasons everybody does. If you then think someone of another race is not allowed to think that way. Is that not double standards? He saying it is fine to think that way. I had to read op twice to work it out too lol" It's late I read it once think it's bedtime lol. | |||
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"I understand we all have preferences, but to discount a person, based solely on their race, how is that not racist? Unless you've seen every person of a particular race/culture, how can you know you won't be attracted to them? I don't understand racism though, or bigotry. A person should be seen as that first, race,culture, class etc shouldn't come into it" But then how would you explain a white woman asking for black or asian guys only? Is she being racist to her own race? Also you never see guys saying no asians or blacks. Its 99 times out of 100 a female saying it. So does tgat mean only women are racists? For me, it is not racist. It is a preference but I dont see the need to state it on profile. If you not interested, simply ignore message. I personally find it rude when those statements are made. | |||
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"I think its a sad time when people who dont want to sleep with us black People (or in my case blackish) have to justify that they are not racist. If I see the words "NO BLACK OR ASIAN" I think "fair enough" not "RACIST" I dont generally dig black women... Oh hang on I need to Renew my kkk membership Some people dont find members of a certain ethnicity unattractive, no one should have to justify that. Just my ranty thoughts, what do you guys think? Should we have to Justify are ethnic sexual preferences? Why don't you generally dig black women? Some would say that is sad but I am sure you have your reasons everybody does. If you then think someone of another race is not allowed to think that way. Is that not double standards? He saying it is fine to think that way. I had to read op twice to work it out too lol It's late I read it once think it's bedtime lol." Easy mistake to make | |||
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"I understand we all have preferences, but to discount a person, based solely on their race, how is that not racist? Unless you've seen every person of a particular race/culture, how can you know you won't be attracted to them? I don't understand racism though, or bigotry. A person should be seen as that first, race,culture, class etc shouldn't come into it" I agree to an extent and my choices are bssed on the person. But at the end of the day people have the right to choose based on height, weight and colour etc. Equal opps don't apply to shagging im afraid. | |||
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"I understand we all have preferences, but to discount a person, based solely on their race, how is that not racist? Unless you've seen every person of a particular race/culture, how can you know you won't be attracted to them? I don't understand racism though, or bigotry. A person should be seen as that first, race,culture, class etc shouldn't come into it" I agree with you. A person stating that on their profile may not be intrinsically racist, but to say that every single person of a race is unattractive to them is short sighted at best. All black people do not look the same. All Asian people do not look the same. Even their skin colour varies, so the only thing they all share is their race. So what is it that people who say Black and/or Asian people aren't attractive to them mean, what is it that is unattractive about them? The dictionary defines racism as : The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Lumping all people into the category of "unattractive" because of their race surely falls under the first part of that definition. | |||
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"Everything black and white, is not racism. " Your right, it's grey | |||
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"Chainz the kkk thing was a joke as im black and they no longer exist. I think some people justify to avoid being labelled as a result if simple sexusl preferences" Though you were joking about the KKK, they sadly do still exist and there was a rally not far from us last year :-/ To say we were surprised is an understatement! | |||
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"The KKK do still exist, and probably always will until the day racism dies. I think they just call themselves the Republican Party now! " | |||
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"If your in the KKK then your a hypocrit" Sarcasm doesn't always come across well when written down | |||
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"Its not Racism its preference simple's x" True | |||
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"I understand we all have preferences, but to discount a person, based solely on their race, how is that not racist? Unless you've seen every person of a particular race/culture, how can you know you won't be attracted to them? I don't understand racism though, or bigotry. A person should be seen as that first, race,culture, class etc shouldn't come into it" | |||
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"Correct, it is not racist. Question to op though. If you were at a club and apprached a woman who said 'sorry, not into black guys', would you not find that rude? " it's happened to me many times - but it's depends how it's said. There's a polite way of making these things clear ...usually with subtly | |||
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"Correct, it is not racist. Question to op though. If you were at a club and apprached a woman who said 'sorry, not into black guys', would you not find that rude? it's happened to me many times - but it's depends how it's said. There's a polite way of making these things clear ...usually with subtly " On a separate note do you have a face pic your bidy shots are nice... | |||
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"So, by the same token, am I being ageist if I say that I'd prefer not to sleep with anyone under 30..??? Or showing a cultural discrimination if I say that tattoos turn me of..??? Or sexist if I say that I prefer women to men...????? " Yes,yes, and yes | |||
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"So, by the same token, am I being ageist if I say that I'd prefer not to sleep with anyone under 30..??? Or showing a cultural discrimination if I say that tattoos turn me of..??? Or sexist if I say that I prefer women to men...????? " Yes,yes, and yes | |||
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"So, by the same token, am I being ageist if I say that I'd prefer not to sleep with anyone under 30..??? Or showing a cultural discrimination if I say that tattoos turn me of..??? Or sexist if I say that I prefer women to men...????? " Yes,yes, and yes | |||
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"So, by the same token, am I being ageist if I say that I'd prefer not to sleep with anyone under 30..??? Or showing a cultural discrimination if I say that tattoos turn me of..??? Or sexist if I say that I prefer women to men...????? Yes,yes, and yes " Ohhhh - nine times "Yes"....! Are you quite sure about that...? I'd hate to feel that you weren't certain.... | |||
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"So, by the same token, am I being ageist if I say that I'd prefer not to sleep with anyone under 30..??? Or showing a cultural discrimination if I say that tattoos turn me of..??? Or sexist if I say that I prefer women to men...????? Yes,yes, and yes Ohhhh - nine times "Yes"....! Are you quite sure about that...? I'd hate to feel that you weren't certain.... " I wouldn't mind hearing a woman say yes to me 9 times | |||
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"Skin colour and or ethnicity isn't one of the criteria I use. Idiots can be any colour. " | |||
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"I think its a sad time when people who dont want to sleep with us black People (or in my case blackish) have to justify that they are not racist. If I see the words "NO BLACK OR ASIAN" I think "fair enough" not "RACIST" I dont generally dig black women... Oh hang on I need to Renew my kkk membership Some people dont find members of a certain ethnicity unattractive, no one should have to justify that. Just my ranty thoughts, what do you guys think? Should we have to Justify are ethnic sexual preferences? " Like I mentioned in a previous post. Having a sexual preference to a race does not mean they are all racists. However, racism can fuel their sexual preference. Since racism is about what they think and their beliefs, it is hard to know if they are or not. I prefer not to approach anyone who has no interest in Latinos. There is no need to question their beliefs or preferences. I prefer to find someone who doesn't care about race, skin colour or culture. | |||
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"I understand we all have preferences, but to discount a person, based solely on their race, how is that not racist? Unless you've seen every person of a particular race/culture, how can you know you won't be attracted to them? I don't understand racism though, or bigotry. A person should be seen as that first, race,culture, class etc shouldn't come into it" A lot of people block all singlemen because of how a significant minority act. Similarly I suspect a lot of people say no black men because of how a significant minority market themselves solely on the myth of BBC | |||
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"So, by the same token, am I being ageist if I say that I'd prefer not to sleep with anyone under 30..??? Or showing a cultural discrimination if I say that tattoos turn me of..??? Or sexist if I say that I prefer women to men...????? " If they believe they are superior and those who are inferior deserve less rights, then they are. For example, a gender deserves higher pay? That's a whole different topic | |||
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"While for many it is a preference it doesn't alter the fact that for some (and I suspect not actually that many) it also reflects a prejudice. " The above is the perhaps the statement I agree with most. I think not that starting a thread will force anyone to change their preferences or indeed any prejudices... Live and let live. | |||
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"So, by the same token, am I being ageist if I say that I'd prefer not to sleep with anyone under 30..??? Or showing a cultural discrimination if I say that tattoos turn me of..??? Or sexist if I say that I prefer women to men...????? " I want to complain now about you being tattooist I have 2 and feel discriminated. ADMIN!!!!!!! Lol (Purely joking I will add for anyone thinking im trying to be serious) | |||
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"I understand we all have preferences, but to discount a person, based solely on their race, how is that not racist? Unless you've seen every person of a particular race/culture, how can you know you won't be attracted to them? I don't understand racism though, or bigotry. A person should be seen as that first, race,culture, class etc shouldn't come into it" Of corse you can discount someone from your sexual preferents due to race alone ! I will not have sex with guys under 5"5 sorry but they just don't turn me on and it wouldn't matter if he looked like brad pit I still wouldn't . Also to the people saying it rude to put " no blacks " why ? If it saves some guy wasting his time wrighting to them and them having to reply . I don't like sex with girls am I sexiest ! | |||
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"I think its a sad time when people who dont want to sleep with us black People (or in my case blackish) have to justify that they are not racist. " Firstly OP may I say well done for picking a popular theme and picking up the popular response gauntlet. OK, on to the reply to the quoted bit: They don't 'have to justify that they are not racist' - they choose to. No one is forced to explain. And of those who feel they must defend the right to preferences.... there will be different motivators for doing so. There is a difference between debating if a statement is racist and whether a person is a racists. Deciding the statement isn't doesn't always mean the person isn't. | |||
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"I understand we all have preferences, but to discount a person, based solely on their race, how is that not racist? Unless you've seen every person of a particular race/culture, how can you know you won't be attracted to them? I don't understand racism though, or bigotry. A person should be seen as that first, race,culture, class etc shouldn't come into it Of corse you can discount someone from your sexual preferents due to race alone ! I will not have sex with guys under 5"5 sorry but they just don't turn me on and it wouldn't matter if he looked like brad pit I still wouldn't . Also to the people saying it rude to put " no blacks " why ? If it saves some guy wasting his time wrighting to them and them having to reply . I don't like sex with girls am I sexiest ! " This too for me but I did meet someone who was 5.5, was fun evening, till we spoke the next day | |||
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"I understand we all have preferences, but to discount a person, based solely on their race, how is that not racist? Unless you've seen every person of a particular race/culture, how can you know you won't be attracted to them? I don't understand racism though, or bigotry. A person should be seen as that first, race,culture, class etc shouldn't come into it Of corse you can discount someone from your sexual preferents due to race alone ! I will not have sex with guys under 5"5 sorry but they just don't turn me on and it wouldn't matter if he looked like brad pit I still wouldn't . Also to the people saying it rude to put " no blacks " why ? If it saves some guy wasting his time wrighting to them and them having to reply . I don't like sex with girls am I sexiest ! This too for me but I did meet someone who was 5.5, was fun evening, till we spoke the next day " I've nothing against shorter guy's but I would feel uncomfortable, thinking they were concious of the height difference. see I am nice really | |||
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"I don't want to meet other cultures. It isn't on my profile as I wasn't sure how to word it politely. Black men have looked at my profile but have not messaged me for their own reasons which is ok. Saves everyone awkwardness. " Do you mean you only want to meet people of your culture? If that's white English/British do you discount white people of other cultures lol | |||
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"I don't want to meet other cultures. It isn't on my profile as I wasn't sure how to word it politely. Black men have looked at my profile but have not messaged me for their own reasons which is ok. Saves everyone awkwardness. Do you mean you only want to meet people of your culture? If that's white English/British do you discount white people of other cultures lol " I'm not racist as I work in a school with all different cultures, if I was I wouldn't do the jobs I do. I think it stems from when I was a child. people were against black people then. Opinions rub off, also my dad, who is not with me anymore, told me not to bring home a black boyfriend. I do and will talk to black. people or any other culture. When you say other white people you mean what exactly? | |||
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" I'm not racist as I work in a school with all different cultures... " Yep that's cast iron proof... no racists could possibly work in a school. | |||
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"I don't want to meet other cultures. It isn't on my profile as I wasn't sure how to word it politely. Black men have looked at my profile but have not messaged me for their own reasons which is ok. Saves everyone awkwardness. Do you mean you only want to meet people of your culture? If that's white English/British do you discount white people of other cultures lol I'm not racist as I work in a school with all different cultures, if I was I wouldn't do the jobs I do. I think it stems from when I was a child. people were against black people then. Opinions rub off, also my dad, who is not with me anymore, told me not to bring home a black boyfriend. I do and will talk to black. people or any other culture. When you say other white people you mean what exactly? " | |||
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"Can't even explain yourself on here now " to explain that you aren;t racist you said you work in a school, speak to black people and probably my favourite bit: " people were against black people then. Opinions rub off, " So sorry if my use of emoticons offended but they were pretty much the only polite response to your post I could think of. | |||
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"I have to admit that I don't really buy the "personal preference" thing. What's the underlying motivation beneath it. Surely there's some kind of social conditioning involved, no? In most instances it's not a physical thing, but a like or dislike for the cultural traits that are associated with that race. Everyone is free to find their own definition of beauty. I'm just suspicious when it's racially motivated. " So do you think I dislike the cultural traits associated with my own race then? No-one can ever justify or have to justify their character or traits to anyone and I believe sexual attraction just falls in to those categories in my opinion. I am who I am in every way and I make no apologies for that at all. | |||
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"Can't even explain yourself on here now to explain that you aren;t racist you said you work in a school, speak to black people and probably my favourite bit: " people were against black people then. Opinions rub off, " So sorry if my use of emoticons offended but they were pretty much the only polite response to your post I could think of." You didn't offend if you want to be honest in your reply to me then say what you feel it's a free country | |||
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"I have to admit that I don't really buy the "personal preference" thing. What's the underlying motivation beneath it. Surely there's some kind of social conditioning involved, no? In most instances it's not a physical thing, but a like or dislike for the cultural traits that are associated with that race. Everyone is free to find their own definition of beauty. I'm just suspicious when it's racially motivated. " You don't have to be suspicious at all. Its a sex site, people can do what they want with their own bodies. | |||
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"I have to admit that I don't really buy the "personal preference" thing. What's the underlying motivation beneath it. Surely there's some kind of social conditioning involved, no? In most instances it's not a physical thing, but a like or dislike for the cultural traits that are associated with that race. Everyone is free to find their own definition of beauty. I'm just suspicious when it's racially motivated. So do you think I dislike the cultural traits associated with my own race then? No-one can ever justify or have to justify their character or traits to anyone and I believe sexual attraction just falls in to those categories in my opinion. I am who I am in every way and I make no apologies for that at all." I don't know, have you ever thought about it? There's a sackful of cultural traits I dislike about my own race and specifically my nationality. I wasn't asking for an apology. I'm happy for you to continue doing what you do. | |||
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"If your in the KKK then your a hypocrit Sarcasm doesn't always come across well when written down" I would like a large version of your profile pic please thank you | |||
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"I like men of all colours - it's the man that counts - not his skin colour. If you agree please post that you do!" Exactly - I treat as I find | |||
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"The way the 'preference' is couched IS racist. All the straw arguments, red herrings, blind justifications , allusions to preferences, confusions with culture do nothing to hide it. Sometimes it 'aint what you say it's the way that you say it.' " 100% | |||
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"So, by the same token, am I being ageist if I say that I'd prefer not to sleep with anyone under 30..??? Or showing a cultural discrimination if I say that tattoos turn me of..??? Or sexist if I say that I prefer women to men...????? " I belong to these isms.... Cept the last one x | |||
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"I have to admit that I don't really buy the "personal preference" thing. What's the underlying motivation beneath it. Surely there's some kind of social conditioning involved, no? In most instances it's not a physical thing, but a like or dislike for the cultural traits that are associated with that race. Everyone is free to find their own definition of beauty. I'm just suspicious when it's racially motivated. So do you think I dislike the cultural traits associated with my own race then? No-one can ever justify or have to justify their character or traits to anyone and I believe sexual attraction just falls in to those categories in my opinion. I am who I am in every way and I make no apologies for that at all. I don't know, have you ever thought about it? There's a sackful of cultural traits I dislike about my own race and specifically my nationality. I wasn't asking for an apology. I'm happy for you to continue doing what you do. " Not something I've ever had to think about as I know I'm not racist to my own race and I merely have a sexual attraction to black men. Have you ever thought that those cultural traits you dislike are the ones demonstrated by actually a small minority of our nation but sadly tarnish the whole country. The benefits row is a perfect example. There are a lot of people who abuse the system therefore a lot of other people have the opinion that everyone on benefits are scum and scroungers, so what about the people who actually can't survive without government help, do they have to just accept that the nation label them as scroungers? | |||
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"I don't want to meet other cultures. It isn't on my profile as I wasn't sure how to word it politely. Black men have looked at my profile but have not messaged me for their own reasons which is ok. Saves everyone awkwardness. Do you mean you only want to meet people of your culture? If that's white English/British do you discount white people of other cultures lol " Excellent point. Some profiles state "white people only". Does that mean white Asian, white African, or any white non-English race? And like the word 'racist' can be abused, so can the word 'preference'. "Our preference" can be interpreted as "our prejudice". | |||
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"I don't want to meet other cultures. It isn't on my profile as I wasn't sure how to word it politely. Black men have looked at my profile but have not messaged me for their own reasons which is ok. Saves everyone awkwardness. Do you mean you only want to meet people of your culture? If that's white English/British do you discount white people of other cultures lol Excellent point. Some profiles state "white people only". Does that mean white Asian, white African, or any white non-English race? And like the word 'racist' can be abused, so can the word 'preference'. "Our preference" can be interpreted as "our prejudice"." White English. That should clear that up hopefully | |||
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"As an individual, you can be as racist, sexist, ageist, gingerist, blondeist, tallist, shortist fatist, skinnyist or any other ist you can think of. You can choose who, what or where you do your business with as an individual. " You beat me to it but my sentiments exactly, you can have an ism about lots of things | |||
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"I'm not racist as I work in a school with all different cultures...." Almost like saying "I'm not racist - I've got black mates"! | |||
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"I don't want to meet other cultures. It isn't on my profile as I wasn't sure how to word it politely. Black men have looked at my profile but have not messaged me for their own reasons which is ok. Saves everyone awkwardness. Do you mean you only want to meet people of your culture? If that's white English/British do you discount white people of other cultures lol Excellent point. Some profiles state "white people only". Does that mean white Asian, white African, or any white non-English race? And like the word 'racist' can be abused, so can the word 'preference'. "Our preference" can be interpreted as "our prejudice". Just like you may interpret that. at the same time I wouldn't force people to have sex. and say its racist if you don't. " no one is forcing people to have sex with people they dont want to but the blanket 'no blacks' statement is, at its base level, racist. discounting a whole group of people for no reason other than their skin colour is racist. | |||
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"And personally, I think it's rude to include racial 'preferences / prejudices' on a profile. What's wrong with a polite 'no thank you' without any reason? Despite what my profile says I still get a barrage of messages from white guys, asian guys etc etc. If I didn't state what I'm looking for there is no way I could reply to so many saying a polite "no thank you" doesn't it avoid any further time wasting for us all?" You're right - I did actually forget to say "what's wrong with a no thank you, or just no reply at all?" | |||
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"Ill fuck who I want,when I want because no one on this earth has any right what so ever to tell me who I should and should'nt open my legs to Not anyone on a swinging site Not the police Not the government Not the Queen Not even masters of the bloody universe Im happy,im polite,im respectful of everyone elses preferences,I expect the same for me " Couldn't have said it better myself | |||
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"I don't want to meet other cultures. It isn't on my profile as I wasn't sure how to word it politely. Black men have looked at my profile but have not messaged me for their own reasons which is ok. Saves everyone awkwardness. Do you mean you only want to meet people of your culture? If that's white English/British do you discount white people of other cultures lol Excellent point. Some profiles state "white people only". Does that mean white Asian, white African, or any white non-English race? And like the word 'racist' can be abused, so can the word 'preference'. "Our preference" can be interpreted as "our prejudice". Just like you may interpret that. at the same time I wouldn't force people to have sex. and say its racist if you don't. no one is forcing people to have sex with people they dont want to but the blanket 'no blacks' statement is, at its base level, racist. discounting a whole group of people for no reason other than their skin colour is racist." you have no single men, singling out a whole group of people because of their sex is sexist. Maybe it just filters out some they are not attracted to on a virtual way, yet boundaries are lowered on reality. We are quite ageist the virtual side, but could lower them on meets, clubs etc. Its our choice. And ideally we are looking for an ffm which could be deemed sexist. | |||
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"And personally, I think it's rude to include racial 'preferences / prejudices' on a profile. What's wrong with a polite 'no thank you' without any reason? Despite what my profile says I still get a barrage of messages from white guys, asian guys etc etc. If I didn't state what I'm looking for there is no way I could reply to so many saying a polite "no thank you" doesn't it avoid any further time wasting for us all? You're right - I did actually forget to say "what's wrong with a no thank you, or just no reply at all?" " Personally I think no reply at all is a bit rude but I have to do that sometimes. If someone states they are only looking for blondes, or matured women (of which I am neither) am I justified to call them ageist for example? No I just accept the fact that they are on here to either fulfil fantasies or seek out their ideal type and I don't fit in to that and I move on. | |||
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"Ill fuck who I want,when I want because no one on this earth has any right what so ever to tell me who I should and should'nt open my legs to Not anyone on a swinging site Not the police Not the government Not the Queen Not even masters of the bloody universe Im happy,im polite,im respectful of everyone elses preferences,I expect the same for me " | |||
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"And personally, I think it's rude to include racial 'preferences / prejudices' on a profile. What's wrong with a polite 'no thank you' without any reason? Despite what my profile says I still get a barrage of messages from white guys, asian guys etc etc. If I didn't state what I'm looking for there is no way I could reply to so many saying a polite "no thank you" doesn't it avoid any further time wasting for us all? You're right - I did actually forget to say "what's wrong with a no thank you, or just no reply at all?" Personally I think no reply at all is a bit rude but I have to do that sometimes. If someone states they are only looking for blondes, or matured women (of which I am neither) am I justified to call them ageist for example? No I just accept the fact that they are on here to either fulfil fantasies or seek out their ideal type and I don't fit in to that and I move on." as age is a protected characteristic then yes you would be justified in doing so. | |||
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"Its not Racism its preference simple's x" Sorry it is racism. You are putting a group in a box and publicly stating your exclusion of said group.. Have sex with pink spotted aliens if you like. Just dont reply to.mail from the green ones | |||
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"I don't want to meet other cultures. It isn't on my profile as I wasn't sure how to word it politely. Black men have looked at my profile but have not messaged me for their own reasons which is ok. Saves everyone awkwardness. Do you mean you only want to meet people of your culture? If that's white English/British do you discount white people of other cultures lol I'm not racist as I work in a school with all different cultures, if I was I wouldn't do the jobs I do. I think it stems from when I was a child. people were against black people then. Opinions rub off, also my dad, who is not with me anymore, told me not to bring home a black boyfriend. I do and will talk to black. people or any other culture. When you say other white people you mean what exactly? " Is white a culture now? | |||
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"And personally, I think it's rude to include racial 'preferences / prejudices' on a profile. What's wrong with a polite 'no thank you' without any reason? Despite what my profile says I still get a barrage of messages from white guys, asian guys etc etc. If I didn't state what I'm looking for there is no way I could reply to so many saying a polite "no thank you" doesn't it avoid any further time wasting for us all? You're right - I did actually forget to say "what's wrong with a no thank you, or just no reply at all?" Personally I think no reply at all is a bit rude but I have to do that sometimes. If someone states they are only looking for blondes, or matured women (of which I am neither) am I justified to call them ageist for example? No I just accept the fact that they are on here to either fulfil fantasies or seek out their ideal type and I don't fit in to that and I move on. as age is a protected characteristic then yes you would be justified in doing so." You think I have the right to ask for justification of another person's fantasies? Isn't the whole point of this site and the scene to be able to explore and experiment with our own sexual preferences and boundaries in a safe, relaxed environment amongst like minded and liberal people? Maybe I've misunderstood the whole thing if I can question and interrogate someone for having the desires that they do....bizarre! | |||
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" as age is a protected characteristic then yes you would be justified in doing so." in real life where discrimination occur's and has real consequences then yes all discrimination has to and should be addressed.. and folks should be challenged and thankfully are when on here they are derogatory about other folks for many of the various different charasteristics we all possess.. recognise someone from pedantic moi may leap upon the use of the word characteristics.. think when folks start saying 'yeh but your ageist' cos your profile stipulates x,y or z then its all getting a bit up its own fundament.. | |||
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"Is calling somebody from Pakistan a Paki racist ? " Lets face it majority of people that using thst term are not aware of the persons country of origin. | |||
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"Is calling somebody from Pakistan a Paki racist ? Lets face it majority of people that using thst term are not aware of the persons country of origin." | |||
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"Is white a culture now? Only in the land of the ignorant." I saw the clarification that it means White English only. The white Scots, Irish and Welsh that contact better be careful. | |||
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"Is a man who doesn't want sex with another man homophobic?" no | |||
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"People forget the fact of an "ism" is usually the power dynamics that go with the lumping together of a block of people. Everyday racism is prevalent among people I don't think of as being particularly aware if their language and behaviour. Dropping my dry cleaning off I had to give my name. I just gave my first name and The response was "at least you've got a proper English name not like some of the foreigners around here." There is no response to something like that. Racism is often casual. How you post your preference says a lot. I have had messages on here from men who say no black/Asian on their profile and when I have said no, pointing out I am black I have had everything from abuse that I should be grateful that a white man took an interest in them through to the rather sheepish "I'd like to try one" or just a block. Festishising a colour is just as racist as far as I am concerned - we're people not toys. There was a South African comedian on R4 a couple of weeks ago who did a set on how you define yourself. He is dual heritage but as he pointed out he doesn't actually get to choose white on the tick boxes even though that is exactly half of his heritage. As for his culture I would judge listening to him it's probably white since that appears to be a cultural grouping now. " There are plenty of white people I have no desire to be lumped into any sort of group with, and many whose culture seems to have little in common with mine. There are also some black/asian/mixed heritage/non-white people who are a joy to spend time with. | |||
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"I don't want to meet other cultures. It isn't on my profile as I wasn't sure how to word it politely. Black men have looked at my profile but have not messaged me for their own reasons which is ok. Saves everyone awkwardness. Do you mean you only want to meet people of your culture? If that's white English/British do you discount white people of other cultures lol I'm not racist as I work in a school with all different cultures, if I was I wouldn't do the jobs I do. I think it stems from when I was a child. people were against black people then. Opinions rub off, also my dad, who is not with me anymore, told me not to bring home a black boyfriend. I do and will talk to black. people or any other culture. When you say other white people you mean what exactly? " Working with and talking with people of other races does not mean someone is not racist. You mean in the 35 years or so since leaving childhood you have not developed the ability to think for your self? | |||
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"Is a man who doesn't want sex with another man homophobic?" Fuck whomever you wish if they are mutually consenting. It's how you convey your wants and desires that sets out whether you are homophobic/sexist/racist about it. | |||
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"The way the 'preference' is couched IS racist. All the straw arguments, red herrings, blind justifications , allusions to preferences, confusions with culture do nothing to hide it. Sometimes it 'aint what you say it's the way that you say it.' " i think preference is used when actually prejudice should be. Discrimination and inequality based on racism and sexism is so ingrained that many really don't see their prejudices for what they are. Positive discrimination, is still discrimination and you don't only have to be white to be racist or prejudiced If you have a preference, it means there wont be a blanket ban in place, just that you will choose a certain type more often but if there is a blanket ban in place, how is this not a prejudice? The motivation behind that prejudice is then the ism, race, cultural, sex,size , class | |||
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"The way the 'preference' is couched IS racist. All the straw arguments, red herrings, blind justifications , allusions to preferences, confusions with culture do nothing to hide it. Sometimes it 'aint what you say it's the way that you say it.' i think preference is used when actually prejudice should be. Discrimination and inequality based on racism and sexism is so ingrained that many really don't see their prejudices for what they are. Positive discrimination, is still discrimination and you don't only have to be white to be racist or prejudiced If you have a preference, it means there wont be a blanket ban in place, just that you will choose a certain type more often but if there is a blanket ban in place, how is this not a prejudice? The motivation behind that prejudice is then the ism, race, cultural, sex,size , class " | |||
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"Personally colour doesnt make no nevermind to me. If there is an an attraction thats what matters. After all we are all pink in the middle !" I haven't heard that phrase 'make no nevermind' for a long time. Not since I lived in Lincolnshire, in fact. | |||
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"I totally agree. Every one has their own personal preference and that's the way the world and the human race work!" THIS | |||
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"Personally colour doesnt make no nevermind to me. If there is an an attraction thats what matters. After all we are all pink in the middle ! I haven't heard that phrase 'make no nevermind' for a long time. Not since I lived in Lincolnshire, in fact. " we are simple backward folk up here lol | |||
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"Prejudice is based on a cognitive decision. Attraction is physical, chemical and far more base. We don't decide to whom we are attracted. How, therefore, can attraction be prejudiced. If someone won't fuck (insert race) because they consider them lesser beings/dirty/stupid etc. then that is prejudiced. Not finding someone attractive on a physical level then it can't be prejudice. " I think that's a great point. I'm not denying that racism occurs on he re as it does everywhere. I just don't think it's always best to jump to that assumption and take offence. The great thing about this place is we can explore our sexuality with like minded people with out fear of being judged. | |||
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"If someone won't fuck (insert race) because they consider them lesser beings/dirty/stupid etc. then that is prejudiced. " Of course. Which is why, in my opinion, the "no blacks/asians" or "whites only" caveats are prejudicial, because they target an entire culture, or skin colour, across the board. I'll also say that I'm a memnbe of another site, where racial caveats are banned from use. Suffice to say, it creates a far better atmosphere. | |||
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"Prejudice is based on a cognitive decision. Attraction is physical, chemical and far more base. We don't decide to whom we are attracted. How, therefore, can attraction be prejudiced. If someone won't fuck (insert race) because they consider them lesser beings/dirty/stupid etc. then that is prejudiced. Not finding someone attractive on a physical level then it can't be prejudice. I think that's a great point. I'm not denying that racism occurs on he re as it does everywhere. I just don't think it's always best to jump to that assumption and take offence. The great thing about this place is we can explore our sexuality with like minded people with out fear of being judged. " Sadly the like minded people we expect to come across are hugely judgemental from my experience | |||
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"Prejudice is based on a cognitive decision. Attraction is physical, chemical and far more base. We don't decide to whom we are attracted. How, therefore, can attraction be prejudiced. If someone won't fuck (insert race) because they consider them lesser beings/dirty/stupid etc. then that is prejudiced. Not finding someone attractive on a physical level then it can't be prejudice. I think that's a great point. I'm not denying that racism occurs on he re as it does everywhere. I just don't think it's always best to jump to that assumption and take offence. The great thing about this place is we can explore our sexuality with like minded people with out fear of being judged. " The forums is like an episode of Judge Judy | |||
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"Prejudice is based on a cognitive decision. Attraction is physical, chemical and far more base. We don't decide to whom we are attracted. How, therefore, can attraction be prejudiced. If someone won't fuck (insert race) because they consider them lesser beings/dirty/stupid etc. then that is prejudiced. Not finding someone attractive on a physical level then it can't be prejudice. I think that's a great point. I'm not denying that racism occurs on he re as it does everywhere. I just don't think it's always best to jump to that assumption and take offence. The great thing about this place is we can explore our sexuality with like minded people with out fear of being judged. The forums is like an episode of Judge Judy " Ya think | |||
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"So, by the same token, am I being ageist if I say that I'd prefer not to sleep with anyone under 30..??? Or showing a cultural discrimination if I say that tattoos turn me of..??? Or sexist if I say that I prefer women to men...????? " | |||
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"No it isnt, pakis are from Pakistan simple. And lm not racist iv got a colour tele!" That is a racist term. Its a derogatory term used against not just people from Pakistan, but asians in general. | |||
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"If someone won't fuck (insert race) because they consider them lesser beings/dirty/stupid etc. then that is prejudiced. Of course. Which is why, in my opinion, the "no blacks/asians" or "whites only" caveats are prejudicial, because they target an entire culture, or skin colour, across the board. I'll also say that I'm a memnbe of another site, where racial caveats are banned from use. Suffice to say, it creates a far better atmosphere." I have yet to meet an Asian man I am physically attracted to. I therefore, as the time I have for meets is limited, concentrate on those I am most likely to be attracted to. That, to me is common sense. I don't think all Asian (Indian subcontinent) men are dirty/arrogant/stupid or anything else. I just know, from experience, I am far less likely to be attracted to them on a physical level. I can't meet everyone. Prejudiced? I don't think so. You are free to disagree but it won't change anything. | |||
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"Prejudice is based on a cognitive decision. Attraction is physical, chemical and far more base. We don't decide to whom we are attracted. How, therefore, can attraction be prejudiced. If someone won't fuck (insert race) because they consider them lesser beings/dirty/stupid etc. then that is prejudiced. Not finding someone attractive on a physical level then it can't be prejudice. I think that's a great point. I'm not denying that racism occurs on he re as it does everywhere. I just don't think it's always best to jump to that assumption and take offence. The great thing about this place is we can explore our sexuality with like minded people with out fear of being judged. The forums is like an episode of Judge Judy " No way. There are no arguments in her court room. What she says goes. Case dismissed! I her | |||
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"I think its a sad time when people who dont want to sleep with us black People (or in my case blackish) have to justify that they are not racist. Firstly OP may I say well done for picking a popular theme and picking up the popular response gauntlet. OK, on to the reply to the quoted bit: They don't 'have to justify that they are not racist' - they choose to. No one is forced to explain. And of those who feel they must defend the right to preferences.... there will be different motivators for doing so. There is a difference between debating if a statement is racist and whether a person is a racists. Deciding the statement isn't doesn't always mean the person isn't. " and | |||
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"It's not what She says goes though. It's what statute says. " She's the one to judge who is telling the truth etc though. There would be no dispute about whether not wanting to fuck black men is racist or not replying is rude in her court. Neither are defined by statute so it's her call. | |||
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"Prejudice is based on a cognitive decision. Attraction is physical, chemical and far more base. We don't decide to whom we are attracted. How, therefore, can attraction be prejudiced. If someone won't fuck (insert race) because they consider them lesser beings/dirty/stupid etc. then that is prejudiced. Not finding someone attractive on a physical level then it can't be prejudice. " Tosh! If you state you will not find someone attractive before you have seen them is that not prejudice? Prejudice = prejudgment. Forming an opinion before becoming aware of the relevant facts. I do demonstrate prejudice when I state that Asian guys shouldn't bother messaging me as they are not my cup of tea. I have prejudged the outcome before even seeing the person. It makes no odds that I have yet to see an Asian guy who makes me go "phwoar yes please" - I have prejudged. The motivation for my prejudice is a different matter. | |||
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"Prejudice is based on a cognitive decision. Attraction is physical, chemical and far more base. We don't decide to whom we are attracted. How, therefore, can attraction be prejudiced. If someone won't fuck (insert race) because they consider them lesser beings/dirty/stupid etc. then that is prejudiced. Not finding someone attractive on a physical level then it can't be prejudice. I think that's a great point. I'm not denying that racism occurs on he re as it does everywhere. I just don't think it's always best to jump to that assumption and take offence. The great thing about this place is we can explore our sexuality with like minded people with out fear of being judged. The forums is like an episode of Judge Judy No way. There are no arguments in her court room. What she says goes. Case dismissed! I her" Ok the forums are as judgemental as the Old Bailey then | |||
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"Prejudice is based on a cognitive decision. Attraction is physical, chemical and far more base. We don't decide to whom we are attracted. How, therefore, can attraction be prejudiced. If someone won't fuck (insert race) because they consider them lesser beings/dirty/stupid etc. then that is prejudiced. Not finding someone attractive on a physical level then it can't be prejudice. I think that's a great point. I'm not denying that racism occurs on he re as it does everywhere. I just don't think it's always best to jump to that assumption and take offence. The great thing about this place is we can explore our sexuality with like minded people with out fear of being judged. The forums is like an episode of Judge Judy No way. There are no arguments in her court room. What she says goes. Case dismissed! I her Ok the forums are as judgemental as the Old Bailey then " That makes me sick. Just give me a Martell .... no rocks. | |||
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"Prejudice is based on a cognitive decision. Attraction is physical, chemical and far more base. We don't decide to whom we are attracted. How, therefore, can attraction be prejudiced. If someone won't fuck (insert race) because they consider them lesser beings/dirty/stupid etc. then that is prejudiced. Not finding someone attractive on a physical level then it can't be prejudice. Tosh! If you state you will not find someone attractive before you have seen them is that not prejudice? Prejudice = prejudgment. Forming an opinion before becoming aware of the relevant facts. I do demonstrate prejudice when I state that Asian guys shouldn't bother messaging me as they are not my cup of tea. I have prejudged the outcome before even seeing the person. It makes no odds that I have yet to see an Asian guy who makes me go "phwoar yes please" - I have prejudged. The motivation for my prejudice is a different matter." I wasn't referring to people saying they won't meet anyone of a certain race. I was commenting on the claim that not finding an individual of a certain race attractive is prejudiced. You're either attracted or you aren't, physically speaking. On the matter of ruling out all Asian men... My profile says specifically that I don't wish to meet Asian men because I have yet to find one attractive. I realise I may find some attractive but I also know I am far more likely to find other races attractive. It's a practical decision to do with how I manage my time and using an approach more likely to yield positive results. My decision not to meet Asian men is not based on any sort of prejudice against them and I recognise I may find some attractive. I am using my previous experience, to maximise my chance of meeting men I want to fuck (and who want to fuck me). Do I take exception to "no fat birds" on profiles? No because I've already clicked onwards. Do I feel discriminated against? No. They think they are unlikely to fancy me. They know what they tend to like. | |||
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"I kind of know how you feel, dude. Many times I've been attracted to women on here, only to read on their profile; black men only. Hey, I don't dwell on it but it doesn't exactly feel great! C'est la vie" Agreed. Loads of women on here with profiles that say black men only Ah well that's her preference. Move on, get over it comes to mind.. | |||
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"Speaking of Asians I was once locked in a heavily sexual embrace with Imran Khan .. All the pleading and begging couldn't break the sweaty, crotch lunging, genital grabbing desparation ..... It took two huge hench men a whole lotta force and a brutal wall collision to break the grip ..... He managed to get away in the end tho .." Which Imran Khan? | |||
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" My decision not to meet Asian men is not based on any sort of prejudice against them.... No being interested in meeting one person because of your previous experiences of meeting other people is prejudice.... you have prejudged the outcome. Embrace your prejudice!" I see it differently to you but I understand your point. It doesn't matter much to me because I've made my decision and that's all there is to it. Whether it's prejudiced or not, or fair or not, I'm still not meeting Asian men. I embrace my choices and my right to make them. | |||
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"I don't want to meet other cultures. It isn't on my profile as I wasn't sure how to word it politely. Black men have looked at my profile but have not messaged me for their own reasons which is ok. Saves everyone awkwardness. Do you mean you only want to meet people of your culture? If that's white English/British do you discount white people of other cultures lol I'm not racist as I work in a school with all different cultures, if I was I wouldn't do the jobs I do. I think it stems from when I was a child. people were against black people then. Opinions rub off, also my dad, who is not with me anymore, told me not to bring home a black boyfriend. I do and will talk to black. people or any other culture. When you say other white people you mean what exactly? Working with and talking with people of other races does not mean someone is not racist. You mean in the 35 years or so since leaving childhood you have not developed the ability to think for your self?" Yes. I don't want to meet black men or Asian men. Enough thought ability there for you? | |||
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" My decision not to meet Asian men is not based on any sort of prejudice against them.... No being interested in meeting one person because of your previous experiences of meeting other people is prejudice.... you have prejudged the outcome. Embrace your prejudice! I see it differently to you but I understand your point. It doesn't matter much to me because I've made my decision and that's all there is to it. Whether it's prejudiced or not, or fair or not, I'm still not meeting Asian men. I embrace my choices and my right to make them." But you can see how that is conveyed could (I'm not saying is) be racist? | |||
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