FabSwingers.com forum: Are singles swingers. ?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Are singles on here just having sex?. As a lot think to be a true swinger you need to be a couple.? Do singles pick this as its easy to move to the next and no ties and no dating needed If they like sex. Its a label but whats a true swinger to you .? And I am sure some just become a member here and think they are .

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I am a single guy on a swingers site looking for group sex. ( well I was )...

nowt more, nowt less.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Singles are part of the swinging community as a whole. Without them there would be not many mmf ir ffm going on. Tho where the singles who only have sex with singles sit I am not sure.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Could ask the same question to couples who swing alone/married people who swing without consent.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I am a single guy on a swingers site looking for group sex. ( well I was )...

nowt more, nowt less."
I was reading a post Gran did on is swinging dying a death made me think .She do that to me with her posts .

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

Lots of couples are looking for single guys to join them for 3somes without us single guys on here that would,nt be possible. Most adult partys i have been to have 3 or 4 couples and 3 or 4 single guys too so most seem to want us on swinger sites

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Singles meeting couples or groups is swinging x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was informed through the Forums a while ago that singles weren't swingers. We're Swingles apparently, whatever that means

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By *adyGardenWoman
over a year ago

LONDON (se)

Swining isn't just about sex it's the social aspect too. Couples or singles with no interest in being social in my opinion are not true singers. As a single lady swinger I like to make bonds with people and not really interested in endless one offs. Sex, even for single women, is much easier to get away from this site

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I was informed through the Forums a while ago that singles weren't swingers. We're Swingles apparently, whatever that means

I find it difficult to find regular meets as a lot of men want to meet, bonk and move onto the next. And, before anyone has a go, I say single men as they're the only ones I speak to so not picking on them. I'm sure a lot of women and couples do the same!"
I think its each to there own really and whats right for you ... Just I see people say you cant be real swinger being single .Maybe that's true to there way of thinking. XX

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Swining isn't just about sex it's the social aspect too. Couples or singles with no interest in being social in my opinion are not true singers. As a single lady swinger I like to make bonds with people and not really interested in endless one offs. Sex, even for single women, is much easier to get away from this site"

I sing and I swing. The social side is important to me. If I wanted lots of one night stands I would go and get groped by a d*unk man in a nightclub.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i guess we are not swingers then !

The terminology or tag is inconsequential anyway , we know what we llike and there are plenty Iof other couples , single guys and single girls of a similar mind to keep us happy .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I sing and I swing. The social side is important to me. If I wanted lots of one night stands I would go and get groped by a d*unk man in a nightclub."
You can get Groped by d*unk swingers too at clubs I know .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was informed through the Forums a while ago that singles weren't swingers. We're Swingles apparently, whatever that means

I find it difficult to find regular meets as a lot of men want to meet, bonk and move onto the next. And, before anyone has a go, I say single men as they're the only ones I speak to so not picking on them. I'm sure a lot of women and couples do the same!I think its each to there own really and whats right for you ... Just I see people say you cant be real swinger being single .Maybe that's true to there way of thinking. XX"

I find that bit confusing too but you're quite right, each to their own and I use Fab the way I want to. Which is why I don't have a list of one off meets to my name

Good thread by the way. xx

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I don't label myself....I use fab for the forums a bit of flirty banter and attend some socials....It is what it is..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think all this 'you cannot be swingers if you're single' is a load of bollocks. I'm not here to have a one night stand or whatever you may want to call it (although it may happen). But, the way in which i use the site is to make friends with those who are kinky and share sexual experiences together.

So, i'm primarily here to form likeminded friendships and take it from there. I'm not one of those people that everyone would jump at the opportunity to meet - and i know that. So, not everything on here is sexual for me.

...that does not stop from being called a swinger. I always thought swinging was a lifestyle filled with debauchery and kink - sex being the factor that brings everyone together. A platform for everyone to fulfill their darkest desires and explore...

Then again, that's just me. I'm an odd bod. I see things differently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could ask the same question to couples who swing alone/married people who swing without consent. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pops you hit the nail on the head there, that is exactly how I see the lifestyle to which I am drawn!!

I find the social aspect is what's most important to me as it allows me to be the naughty flirty sexual deviant I really am, in the real world Im much more reserved.

As others have said swinging is what you make it, why label it, each to their own

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Without even asking this persons opinion, we were told recently that our activity of meeting single guys is not real swinging

Really

oh wow I'm gutted, that means I can no longer enjoy meeting all those sexy handsome hunks

I think this notion that only couples meeting couples is proper swinging, especially when I think back to a few meets in clubs we have had where the other couple just want me licking her fanny - and mrnotts touching her is definitely off limits - but erm is it okay if my hubby plays with you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think all this 'you cannot be swingers if you're single' is a load of bollocks. I'm not here to have a one night stand or whatever you may want to call it (although it may happen). But, the way in which i use the site is to make friends with those who are kinky and share sexual experiences together.

Then again, that's just me. I'm an odd bod. I see things differently.

Very true pops.

Im a "swingler" who likes to explore

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

People's relationship status changes over time usually, so someone who is single today may not be tomorrow.

The definition of what a swinger is comes up as regular as clockwork in swinging circles, and everyone likely has a slightly different version.

If someone has sex with others, such as at swinging clubs, usually in groups, then you may as well think of them as swingers.

Sometimes it takes a while for people on the periphery of a group to move closer or away from it. Some singles, as well as couples, may be amongst these, but there's little point in alienating anyone if they may be a future partner, or if they may swing with you as a couple at some point. Live and let live, evolve or become stale.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the term Swinging has evolved and it now covers couples, singles, social and non-social types and everything in between. So yes, singles can be Swingers.

It amuses me when some couples that only meet couples seem to think it's a special club that includes only their way of meeting. Elitist bollocks.

Hence I am not a swinger.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think the term Swinging has evolved and it now covers couples, singles, social and non-social types and everything in between. So yes, singles can be Swingers.

It amuses me when some couples that only meet couples seem to think it's a special club that includes only their way of meeting. Elitist bollocks.

Hence I am not a swinger."

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

To Notts - As a couple you are swingers.

The single blokes you meet are singles having sex but they are not swingers as they are not in a relationship and don't have anyone to 'swing' with.

To everyone.

A lot of singles having sex N.S.A would be an orgy or an adult party or something but not swinging.

Only the committed couples swing by definition.

I include myself in the non swinging category. I have no one to 'swing' away from and 'swing' back to... Swinging was coined for marrieds.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I think the term Swinging has evolved and it now covers couples, singles, social and non-social types and everything in between. So yes, singles can be Swingers.

It amuses me when some couples that only meet couples seem to think it's a special club that includes only their way of meeting. Elitist bollocks.

Hence I am not a swinger."

Can't agree. I'm single too but and let others know that I have an open attitude to sex and use a swingers site but I don't see how I can call myself a swinger as im not in a relationship.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I don't really care what others call me. I joined this site to have sex, but my reasons have now involved into socialising with others, which I thought was an integral part of swinging. No matter. I don't meet couples so don't have to listen to a lecture about how I am not a 'true swinger', and Fabswingers admin doesn't seem to have a problem with me being here.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Someone gave you a lecture ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't really care what others call me. I joined this site to have sex, but my reasons have now involved into socialising with others, which I thought was an integral part of swinging. No matter. I don't meet couples so don't have to listen to a lecture about how I am not a 'true swinger', and Fabswingers admin doesn't seem to have a problem with me being here."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes likewise I'm not bothered about this label. I was just amused at this couples condescending na na na na na attitude that we aren't proper swingers.

It's the furthest thing from my mind when I have a hot stud between my legs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yoiks...!!! Old dogs, New tricks...

I've always considered myself to be a "swinger" (not that I really care about titles)... But, I've just realised that I may not be...

I had the good fortune to live in Italy for some fifteen years... I lived, loved and immersed myself in the Italian culture, and quite miss it in many respects....

But.... Am I an Italian...???

Still if anyone fancies a f.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yoiks...!!! Old dogs, New tricks...

I've always considered myself to be a "swinger" (not that I really care about titles)... But, I've just realised that I may not be...

I had the good fortune to live in Italy for some fifteen years... I lived, loved and immersed myself in the Italian culture, and quite miss it in many respects....

But.... Am I an Italian...???

Still if anyone fancies a f.....

Cazzo ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yoiks...!!! Old dogs, New tricks...

I've always considered myself to be a "swinger" (not that I really care about titles)... But, I've just realised that I may not be...

I had the good fortune to live in Italy for some fifteen years... I lived, loved and immersed myself in the Italian culture, and quite miss it in many respects....

But.... Am I an Italian...???

Still if anyone fancies a f.....

Cazzo ???

Troiettina...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yoiks...!!! Old dogs, New tricks...

I've always considered myself to be a "swinger" (not that I really care about titles)... But, I've just realised that I may not be...

I had the good fortune to live in Italy for some fifteen years... I lived, loved and immersed myself in the Italian culture, and quite miss it in many respects....

But.... Am I an Italian...???

Still if anyone fancies a f.....

Cazzo ???

Troiettina...

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Yoiks...!!! Old dogs, New tricks...

I've always considered myself to be a "swinger" (not that I really care about titles)... But, I've just realised that I may not be...

I had the good fortune to live in Italy for some fifteen years... I lived, loved and immersed myself in the Italian culture, and quite miss it in many respects....

But.... Am I an Italian...???

Still if anyone fancies a f.....

Got any cornetto's ?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Labels are for jam jars. At the end of the day the term "swinger" is just a label and i really could'nt care less if a couple think i'm a swinger or not as a single male here. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? (I don't think so).

I joined this site, which is a swingers site to meet up with people for sex, the site allows single male and female memebrs to join, we all contribute to the site in different ways and fund the site with our memberships. If some couples have trouble accepting that then they are the ones with the problem really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yoiks...!!! Old dogs, New tricks...

I've always considered myself to be a "swinger" (not that I really care about titles)... But, I've just realised that I may not be...

I had the good fortune to live in Italy for some fifteen years... I lived, loved and immersed myself in the Italian culture, and quite miss it in many respects....

But.... Am I an Italian...???

Still if anyone fancies a f.....

Got any cornetto's ?"

Fragole...???

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By *ardlovinmanMan
over a year ago

Aberdeen

I'm a single male, came on here to meet new people and broaden my mind sexually and find like minded partners etc without any hassles or dramas or hurting anyone's feelings, am I a swinger? Maybe not, I don't really know to be honest. Xxx

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By *ustcutieWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh

Call me what you will, I was a swinger when I was a couple and if I'm not considered one now then hey who cares!

It's not easy meeting someone in the pub and asking if they fancy a threesome though

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Yoiks...!!! Old dogs, New tricks...

I've always considered myself to be a "swinger" (not that I really care about titles)... But, I've just realised that I may not be...

I had the good fortune to live in Italy for some fifteen years... I lived, loved and immersed myself in the Italian culture, and quite miss it in many respects....

But.... Am I an Italian...???

Still if anyone fancies a f.....

Got any cornetto's ?

Fragole...???

vaniglia

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yoiks...!!! Old dogs, New tricks...

I've always considered myself to be a "swinger" (not that I really care about titles)... But, I've just realised that I may not be...

I had the good fortune to live in Italy for some fifteen years... I lived, loved and immersed myself in the Italian culture, and quite miss it in many respects....

But.... Am I an Italian...???

Still if anyone fancies a f.....

Got any cornetto's ?

Fragole...???

vaniglia "
whos vaniglia gan ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm just a woman who uses different means to get sex. I'm not a swinger in the raw sense of the word

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm just a woman who uses different means to get sex. I'm not a swinger in the raw sense of the word"
swinger is just a label for sex. And people will do what ever if it makes them happy end of the day x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im a swingler amongst like minded sexual deviants....

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle

I suppose the traditional idea of a swinger is a fm couple who meet other fm couples to swap partners, so maybe being a singleton doesn't make us swingers, so I suppose the bones of it are the same as in we all like to meet different people for nsa sex where we all understand that we can fuck and say thank you that was fab without having to pretend we are in a relationship with the other person.

I may be waffling but it made sense in my head

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I suppose the traditional idea of a swinger is a fm couple who meet other fm couples to swap partners, so maybe being a singleton doesn't make us swingers, so I suppose the bones of it are the same as in we all like to meet different people for nsa sex where we all understand that we can fuck and say thank you that was fab without having to pretend we are in a relationship with the other person.

I may be waffling but it made sense in my head

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yes I can understand what your saying xxx

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't like the term ...it makes me think of cheesy carry on films

Why we have to debate what we call ourselves is beyond me.

Im in a mood can you tell

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I don't like the term ...it makes me think of cheesy carry on films

Why we have to debate what we call ourselves is beyond me.

Im in a mood can you tell

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Your in the mood for fun xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yoiks...!!! Old dogs, New tricks...

I've always considered myself to be a "swinger" (not that I really care about titles)... But, I've just realised that I may not be...

I had the good fortune to live in Italy for some fifteen years... I lived, loved and immersed myself in the Italian culture, and quite miss it in many respects....

But.... Am I an Italian...???

Still if anyone fancies a f.....

Got any cornetto's ?

Fragole...???

vaniglia whos vaniglia gan ?

Don't know who Is vanilla... But it ain't Granny...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't like the term ...it makes me think of cheesy carry on films

Why we have to debate what we call ourselves is beyond me.

Im in a mood can you tell

Your in the mood for fun xxx

Im in the mood for poking eyeballs out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swinging is supossed to be fun. Why the politics? Each to their own. I think singles help the swinging scene, i'm sure at some point others have been single but been part of the swinging scene and are now swinging as a couple. I play either on my own or with a playmate. Both ways work for me. I don't beleive because your single you can't be part of the scene.. This doesn't seem to be an issue in most of the clubs but only on the swinging sites. Everyone is entittled to their opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't like the term ...it makes me think of cheesy carry on films

Why we have to debate what we call ourselves is beyond me.

Im in a mood can you tell

Your in the mood for fun xxx

Im in the mood for poking eyeballs out

I'm in the mooood for dancing .....romancing .........im giving it all tonight ( a la nolan sisters). Go on .......bet there's a little smile on ya face

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't like the term ...it makes me think of cheesy carry on films

Why we have to debate what we call ourselves is beyond me.

Im in a mood can you tell

Your in the mood for fun xxx

Im in the mood for poking eyeballs out

I'm in the mooood for dancing .....romancing .........im giving it all tonight ( a la nolan sisters). Go on .......bet there's a little smile on ya face

A little one ....

That's a smirking face lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't class myself as a swinger, i'm just a woman looking for sex, I use sites as its easier for me than finding men in every day life and men I meet on here know where we stand, I meet them, have sex and go home, I don't have to worry about them turning up at my home thinking there is more to it than that like men I know in my normal life may, I don't want to use people who don't want to be used or make people feel bad so meeting off here works better for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Away with all this intellectdual nomclementure...

I'm a Slut.... Loud and proud...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its irrelevant as I see it. I have never been desperate to feel the need to call myself part of this or that I am me and a human being no more no less labels are really for people who struggle with their own identity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes singles on here are just having Sex, Couples on here are just having Sex..Call it what you will we are all on here to stick our bits in other peoples bits

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swinging is another name for wife swapping so to be a swinger one must have a partner.

Single women on a swinging site are slappers and single guys are just sowing their oats....

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

I think it is possible for singles to be swingers…. at heart. Imagine a person (male or female) who has enjoyed the pleasures of sharing a partner with one or more other couples and for whatever reason now finds themselves single, but wishes to have a similar relationship with their next partner. I think this person is a swinger… even though they may not be swinging at that present moment in time.

I wouldn’t class many of the singles on here as swingers – and I’m often baffled by the vigorous endeavours of some to claim right to the label… it smacks of desperation to differentiate and one can only imagine negative motivation for this. Despite the repeated claims of not being judgemental, with a hearty dose of “each to their own” and “whatever floats your boat”, it is often (but not exclusively) those most needing to define themselves as a ‘swinger’ who are the most covertly judgemental of how others choose to pursue their sexual desires – only giving away their cover occasionally by sneering at the more diversely liberated and dropping in comments like “no standards” or “any hole” and “not fussy”.

I have found many singles who clutch at the swinging label to be some of the most closed minded in terms of recreational sex and ‘how it should be done’ – though fuck knows who put them in charge of the rule book.

I would and sometimes do refer to myself as a swinger… though I would never try to claim any 1-2-1 meet was swinging. When I have referred to myself as a swinger it has been in the context that I would be happy to explore meeting other couples, attending swinging parties or swinging clubs with a real life partner…it was once a convenient way to say that in one word… though as the meaning of the term becomes more cloudy and diluted, I am less likely to use it. As a single on here I don’t swing… I have recreational sex. So if someone wishes to challenge me using the term swinger, please feel free… I am not precious about the label.

I enjoy ’the social aspect of swinging’ or should I say the swinging scene. However, when that phrase was first conceived it meant something different to how many singles use it today. The ‘social aspect’ once referred to the drinks, nibbles and chatting at swinging parties… before everyone got stuck into fucking each other senseless. It referred to groups of people being able to relax and enjoy the social company of a gathering of those you were about to share the sexual company of. .. during the night, the weekend mini-break or two weeks away in Portugal. It even meant introducing people (you were currently or had previously been playing with) to each other if you thought they would get on… and I seriously can’t imagine some of the single women on here introducing their latest prize catch to their adversaries (excuse me for a moment whilst I chuckle my tits off at that thought).

Nowadays ‘the social aspect’ seems to be frequently used to describe posting on a forum, texting, talking on the phone to someone - even when you have no intention of shagging.... and in some cases pretending to like everyone whilst slagging them off in private. You may have guessed, to me the forum, and what hides behind it, is nothing to do with the ‘social aspect’ of the swinging scene I enjoy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it is possible for singles to be swingers…. at heart. Imagine a person (male or female) who has enjoyed the pleasures of sharing a partner with one or more other couples and for whatever reason now finds themselves single, but wishes to have a similar relationship with their next partner. I think this person is a swinger… even though they may not be swinging at that present moment in time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Share n share a like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who the fuck cares!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm quite surprised Game as u've been here a good while and enjoyed singles(I can still remember when I managed to ram ur fanny ahhhhh), surely u have met some who treat the scene as a social experience whether single or as couples.

I swing more than some couples do...does that make me any realer than them? to some it does.

I have something to share...thats me...if thats not enough for some...they can fuck off

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By *adyGardenWoman
over a year ago

LONDON (se)

"Labels are for jam jars. At the end of the day the term "swinger" is just a label and i really could'nt care less if a couple think i'm a swinger or not as a single male here. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? (I don't think so).

Agreed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Swinging is another name for wife swapping so to be a swinger one must have a partner.

Single women on a swinging site are slappers and single guys are just sowing their oats...."

slappers? Who are you to call single women slappers?!!! What an insulting and extremely rude comment!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could ask the same question to couples who swing alone/married people who swing without consent. "

I'm a married without consent. Haven't met loads of men and would just like to find one regular guy. hoping I might have but will wait and see

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Swinging is another name for wife swapping so to be a swinger one must have a partner.

Single women on a swinging site are slappers and single guys are just sowing their oats...."

you amuse me.

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By *ev and TrevCouple
over a year ago

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"Swinging is another name for wife swapping so to be a swinger one must have a partner.

Single women on a swinging site are slappers and single guys are just sowing their oats...."

Actually the dictionary definition of slapper is 'a promiscuous or vulgar woman' so in that respect I would argue (as a married woman who meets and plays with my husband) that if you insist on using such vulgar terms , you (and every woman on here) is a 'slapper'.

Personally I don't feel the need to use such labels though!

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over a year ago

"Swinging is another name for wife swapping so to be a swinger one must have a partner.

Single women on a swinging site are slappers and single guys are just sowing their oats...."

Having read your profile I can only assume you wrote that as a joke.

Surely if you play alone with men outside marriage (as I do) you're able to behave like a single female/slapper yourself?

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over a year ago

Tell you what, swinging would be dull as a coal pit puddle without singles!

Sometimes I think couples on here regard singles as people who are there to service their needs when I see all the demands on profile.

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over a year ago

"Tell you what, swinging would be dull as a coal pit puddle without singles!

Sometimes I think couples on here regard singles as people who are there to service their needs when I see all the demands on profile.

This.

I have a new hero

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By *ev and TrevCouple
over a year ago

cardiff

"Swinging is another name for wife swapping so to be a swinger one must have a partner.

Single women on a swinging site are slappers and single guys are just sowing their oats....

Having read your profile I can only assume you wrote that as a joke.

Surely if you play alone with men outside marriage (as I do) you're able to behave like a single female/slapper yourself?"

Based on past posts I would hazard a guess that:

A- you won't get a reply to this and

B- it wasn't a joke!

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over a year ago

"Swinging is another name for wife swapping so to be a swinger one must have a partner.

Single women on a swinging site are slappers and single guys are just sowing their oats....

Having read your profile I can only assume you wrote that as a joke.

Surely if you play alone with men outside marriage (as I do) you're able to behave like a single female/slapper yourself?

Based on past posts I would hazard a guess that:

A- you won't get a reply to this and

B- it wasn't a joke!"

As an aside can I say loving the footwear.

Darent show oh your profile, he has a shoe thing!

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By *ev and TrevCouple
over a year ago

cardiff

"Swinging is another name for wife swapping so to be a swinger one must have a partner.

Single women on a swinging site are slappers and single guys are just sowing their oats....

Having read your profile I can only assume you wrote that as a joke.

Surely if you play alone with men outside marriage (as I do) you're able to behave like a single female/slapper yourself?

Based on past posts I would hazard a guess that:

A- you won't get a reply to this and

B- it wasn't a joke!

As an aside can I say loving the footwear.

Darent show oh your profile, he has a shoe thing!"

Thank you! I'm sure myself and OH would get on well then, I have a terrible shoe/boot fetish, many of which have never been worn!

Shoes are like porn for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm single and you may well have a point.

I've no one as a swing partner so you are probably right about singles not being real swingers be they male or female.

I do think however singles in the swing scene especially females are important.

I swing because I really do not want to tell lies to get sex.Most women in the dating game want some commitment and most definitely want to be the only person you have sex with.I can't make that promise unless I fall in love then I would do it because I did it before for two decades with no regrets.

Many men however don't want the commitment but still want their wives and partners to only have sex with them.

Ask yourselves how can there be so many men "spare" on this site and in clubs?

Is the world so full of single men?I don't think so and neither do most of you.It's an elephant in the room but an Elephant that pays for swing clubs and sites like this.

It will never be confronted because there is too much money to be made from horny men who want to fuck about.

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over a year ago

"Tell you what, swinging would be dull as a coal pit puddle without singles!

Sometimes I think couples on here regard singles as people who are there to service their needs when I see all the demands on profile.

for those that seek singles, of either gender, then fair enough, it would be.

but for those couples that only ever seek other couples and group fun, then they wouldnt be missing out at all

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over a year ago

I agree with you but how would swing clubs and swing sites pay the bills?

Men pay it's that simple.

They pay more at clubs and why is this?

Why should someone pay more because of their sex?

The only reason swing clubs get away with this is because no one wants to bring a sex discrimination case for going to a swing club.

If they did they would win hands doewn and most of the clubs would shut in weeks as a result of that ruling.

Sex discrimination is illegal it's that simple.

Then couples would have these sites but we have already established the sheer volume of single males compared to couples and single females.

Could swing sites take a 60% or more reduction in revenue and stay running?Would the millions they make now compare to a trickle of money later?

We are talking financial reality for the people who make a good living from the swing scene not the morality if some one is a "real" swinger or not.

This is a very profitable business but only if single men think with their dicks and have "flexible" morality.

If real swingers came out of the closet and took the crap that society would undoubtedly throw at them you could survive.However that's not going to happen any time soon so clubs and sites and indeed "real swingers" need males who fuck about like it or not.

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over a year ago

"I agree with you but how would swing clubs and swing sites pay the bills?

Men pay it's that simple.

They pay more at clubs and why is this?

Why should someone pay more because of their sex?

The only reason swing clubs get away with this is because no one wants to bring a sex discrimination case for going to a swing club.

If they did they would win hands doewn and most of the clubs would shut in weeks as a result of that ruling.

Sex discrimination is illegal it's that simple.

Then couples would have these sites but we have already established the sheer volume of single males compared to couples and single females.

Could swing sites take a 60% or more reduction in revenue and stay running?Would the millions they make now compare to a trickle of money later?

We are talking financial reality for the people who make a good living from the swing scene not the morality if some one is a "real" swinger or not.

This is a very profitable business but only if single men think with their dicks and have "flexible" morality.

are you saying all these thousands of single men pay a subscription?

of course not.

and many just dick around with people, which puts people off.

on th eflip side.

IF sites like this just hands down banned single men, would it attract more couples because they wouldnt be inundated with chancers?

you just dont know, much like you dont know if what you said would happen.

saturdays at xtasias, and many clubs, are couples and fems only, and they are usually extremely busy, i doubt clubs lose money on these nights

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry you are entitled to your point of _iew but the people who make money from this industry need single men.

I do not personally agree with a man fucking about nor a woman but reality is not morality.

Take all the single males from this site and clubs and how much money is being made?

This is a business not just a life style choice.

I'm a realist if someone wants to set up a "couples only" business there profits will be no where near what they are having men dicking or trying to dick around.

Explain the number difference in single men and single females and couples?

Also like it or not why should anyone pay more just because of their sex?

Do you think single fems should pay more for being single?

What about a man and woman being charged more to enter a night club?

Would you think that fair or even legal?

Last this site would not take anywhere near the money it takes if it banned all singles.Remember if it bans single men it HAS to ban single women by law.

I side with real swingers but I know what economic reality is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How do you prove who is a real single exactly?

Go around to their home??

It does not take much for someone to smell a rat when you talk to them on a meet but entering a club by paying on the door or paying a fee here buy phone?

How do you sort the fake from the real?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

going into the realms of fake and real is NOT the subject of this thread though is it, and the same with entrants of swinging clubs or not.

the question was, are singles swingers, and by the age old definition, they arent, whether male or female.

however, definitions change, and with it so does the scene.

are men and women having a d*unken shag in the back alley behind a nightclub swingers?

what about the village bike (male or female) that will go home with someone for the price of a drink, are they swingers?

are people that play soft, actual swingers?

economics are a completely different argument, but as i said before, removing all the singles from this site, or the scene in general, will only upset those that look for solely.

those that look to meet with other couples would be, mainly, non plussed about the whole thing.

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over a year ago

"Swinging is another name for wife swapping so to be a swinger one must have a partner.

Single women on a swinging site are slappers and single guys are just sowing their oats....

Having read your profile I can only assume you wrote that as a joke.

Surely if you play alone with men outside marriage (as I do) you're able to behave like a single female/slapper yourself?

Based on past posts I would hazard a guess that:

A- you won't get a reply to this and

B- it wasn't a joke!

As an aside can I say loving the footwear.

Darent show oh your profile, he has a shoe thing!

Thank you! I'm sure myself and OH would get on well then, I have a terrible shoe/boot fetish, many of which have never been worn!

Shoes are like porn for me

Oh and him, everyone thinks im very lucky that my man drags me into Womens shoe shops!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swinging has evolved over the years,gone are the days of house partys with there bowl of keys

Im a single woman who i class as a swinger,im not made to feel like a 2nd class citizen,im accepted and encouraged by clubs and partys,by many couples,woman and males,if i wasnt a swinger i wouldnt be accepted by any of these people,some couples may say different however they do like to invite single ladies as a ffm,so what am i just an extra,nope im equaly a swinger just like them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't have a problem with how people use this site or what goes on at clubs its there choice singles are apart of swinging and its a good thing there are so many but singles that only meet other singles and don't attend clubs I wouldn't class as a swinger but if that's what they want from this site then that's. Up to them

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By *EXY50ishWoman
over a year ago

Anywhere and nowhere

I like good sex with people I find stimulating and interesting.

But I dislike labels - swinger, non swinger, FB - who really cares?

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over a year ago

"I like good sex with people I find stimulating and interesting.

But I dislike labels - swinger, non swinger, FB - who really cares?

THIS

I'm on here to find people who DON'T LIKE vanilla sex .

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over a year ago

"I like good sex with people I find stimulating and interesting.

But I dislike labels - swinger, non swinger, FB - who really cares?

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

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singles are just swingers who aren't playing with a partner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pointless post to be honest as o p says are not singles just here for sex if thats not your thing i ask why are you here unless there is a secret book reading club

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over a year ago

I think that there are many people on this site, regardless of age, gender or relationship status who hold a certain set of values which are what many could consider the 'core values' of swinging.

There are many on this site that do not. All are welcome and can make the same choices as (and are subject to) everyone else.

The internet has opened up and broadened the field of swinging far beyond what it was ten years ago.

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over a year ago

"Pointless post to be honest as o p says are not singles just here for sex if thats not your thing i ask why are you here unless there is a secret book reading club

but judging by the amount of 'im getting nowhere' posts, i have to ask, if singles are here purely JUST for sex, why bother with here?

why not the d*unken fumbles around the back of the local Spar?

if singles arent interested in the entire aspect of the swinging scene, then there are far easier ways of getting laid.

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over a year ago

"I like good sex with people I find stimulating and interesting.

But I dislike labels - swinger, non swinger, FB - who really cares?

THIS

I'm on here to find people who DON'T LIKE vanilla sex . "

so you always do kinky sex when you meet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Abbreviations acronyms and labels really mean nothing to me.

I just enjoy being here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could ask the same question to couples who swing alone/married people who swing without consent.

I'm a married without consent. Haven't met loads of men and would just like to find one regular guy. hoping I might have but will wait and see"

Strike the last bit. And as for Mother Bloody Nature, she isn't meant to be here

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over a year ago

"Could ask the same question to couples who swing alone/married people who swing without consent.

I'm a married without consent. Haven't met loads of men and would just like to find one regular guy. hoping I might have but will wait and see"

you did find 1 regular guy.

you married him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Then again, that's just me. I'm an odd bod. I see things differently.

I think if the title of this site changed, no one would leave!

The site owners have provided forums chat rooms cams and meet events, for those reasons this site attracts all types and rightly so.

Lets not limit ourselves to " only couples for couples".

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over a year ago

"I think that there are many people on this site, regardless of age, gender or relationship status who hold a certain set of values which are what many could consider the 'core values' of swinging.

There are many on this site that do not. All are welcome and can make the same choices as (and are subject to) everyone else.

The internet has opened up and broadened the field of swinging far beyond what it was ten years ago."

Here here.

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over a year ago

"I like good sex with people I find stimulating and interesting.

But I dislike labels - swinger, non swinger, FB - who really cares?

THIS

I'm on here to find people who DON'T LIKE vanilla sex .

so you always do kinky sex when you meet?

Well it's never vanilla

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over a year ago

"I think that there are many people on this site, regardless of age, gender or relationship status who hold a certain set of values which are what many could consider the 'core values' of swinging.

There are many on this site that do not. All are welcome and can make the same choices as (and are subject to) everyone else.

The internet has opened up and broadened the field of swinging far beyond what it was ten years ago."

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over a year ago

"I like good sex with people I find stimulating and interesting.

But I dislike labels - swinger, non swinger, FB - who really cares?

THIS

I'm on here to find people who DON'T LIKE vanilla sex .

so you always do kinky sex when you meet?

Well it's never vanilla

maybe by your satndards

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Waiting for the various club owners to comment on here, I'm sure they will confirm that singles are indeed swingers..otherwise they may have to rename their Friday night events

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over a year ago

"Could ask the same question to couples who swing alone/married people who swing without consent.

I'm a married without consent. Haven't met loads of men and would just like to find one regular guy. hoping I might have but will wait and see

you did find 1 regular guy.

you married him

We don't have sex. I meant i want one on here

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over a year ago

"Swinging is another name for wife swapping so to be a swinger one must have a partner.

Single women on a swinging site are slappers and single guys are just sowing their oats....

slappers? Who are you to call single women slappers?!!! What an insulting and extremely rude comment!!!

Ooh another label - lovely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree! What I like about FAB and the swinging lifestyle is the social side and how I can talk about sex openly without judgement (usually! ).If I just want sex, I can get that easily enough away from here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not really concerned as to what "label" I'm given, as long as I'm having fun

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over a year ago

"Swinging is another name for wife swapping so to be a swinger one must have a partner.

Single women on a swinging site are slappers and single guys are just sowing their oats...."

Wow!!!!! I do hope that none of the single men 'sowing their oats' you enjoy fucking away from your husband (as per your profile!) regard you as a 'slapper' then! Talk about double standards!

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over a year ago

"I like good sex with people I find stimulating and interesting.

But I dislike labels - swinger, non swinger, FB - who really cares?

THIS

I'm on here to find people who DON'T LIKE vanilla sex .

so you always do kinky sex when you meet?

Well it's never vanilla

maybe by your satndards

For the enjoyment of MY sex life , surely that's all that matters???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have u noticed how noone sais single females here lol but yes I am here for sex to and dogging is my favorite.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

No I said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No I said."
Ah good

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over a year ago

"Swinging is another name for wife swapping so to be a swinger one must have a partner.

Single women on a swinging site are slappers and single guys are just sowing their oats....

Wow!!!!! I do hope that none of the single men 'sowing their oats' you enjoy fucking away from your husband (as per your profile!) regard you as a 'slapper' then! Talk about double standards!

LIKE!

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