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"from benefit street did not come across as a woman who suffered from depression ! I would agree with the woman in the audience of the aftermath show that she was scamming benefits what's the opinion?" I have no interest in White Dee or whether she's scamming benefits but how the hell can you tell if someone looks like they might be prone to depression? I've been on anti-depressants for as long as I can remember but you wouldn't know it if you met me; everyone that knows (that doesn't have to live with me) is surprised. Ridiculous statement! | |||
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"Who looks like they're prone to depression anyway? Some of my lowest moments were when we had more money than we knew what to do with, everything was good in our lives and nothing could seemingly be wrong. Now, I'm a skint student (and still depressed)...go figure!" I hear you! | |||
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"Who looks like they're prone to depression anyway? Some of my lowest moments were when we had more money than we knew what to do with, everything was good in our lives and nothing could seemingly be wrong. Now, I'm a skint student (and still depressed)...go figure! I hear you! " , well actually, because I'm depressed and so very rarely laugh or smile, else people don't believe I'm depressed | |||
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"What does depression look like? " Me | |||
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"What does depression look like? " Willy Wonka! | |||
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"from benefit street did not come across as a woman who suffered from depression ! I would agree with the woman in the audience of the aftermath show that she was scamming benefits what's the opinion?" You're a narrow minded idiot | |||
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"from benefit street did not come across as a woman who suffered from depression ! I would agree with the woman in the audience of the aftermath show that she was scamming benefits what's the opinion?" What does someone that suffers with depression look like? Ridiculously uninformed comment. | |||
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"That's a typical statement from someone who hasn't suffered with depression. You can't tell if someone has diabetes but you wouldn't question them if they told you would you and say oh you don't look like a diabetic. You have no idea how people with depression look act or cope with every day life. The population as a whole could do with some education regarding the effects of depression " I couldn't agree more!! | |||
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"from benefit street did not come across as a woman who suffered from depression ! I would agree with the woman in the audience of the aftermath show that she was scamming benefits what's the opinion? What does someone that suffers with depression look like? Ridiculously uninformed comment. " I don't think this thread panned out quite how he expected! | |||
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"Just because you have depression doesn't necessarily mean you are unable to work. She is taking advantage of the system!" I agree that depression doesn't necessarily mean you are unable to work but I don't know her circumstances and how it affects her. | |||
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"Just because you have depression doesn't necessarily mean you are unable to work. She is taking advantage of the system!" Agreed, I suffered depression about 7 years ago, I carried on working, hid it from family and friends - in effect only I knew and eventually my GP when I went to visit them. I was prescribed pills which I didn't really want to take and stopped after 2 months because they had no effect. It was the counselling and the advice to open up to my family and friends that saw me on the road to recovery and I haven't look back since. But, for the whole time, my work never suffered and I still achieved performance bonuses. | |||
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"Just because you have depression doesn't necessarily mean you are unable to work. She is taking advantage of the system! Agreed, I suffered depression about 7 years ago, I carried on working, hid it from family and friends - in effect only I knew and eventually my GP when I went to visit them. I was prescribed pills which I didn't really want to take and stopped after 2 months because they had no effect. It was the counselling and the advice to open up to my family and friends that saw me on the road to recovery and I haven't look back since. But, for the whole time, my work never suffered and I still achieved performance bonuses." Good for you. I have carried on working throughout my depression too but I paid for it in other ways. I still ran successful organisations but my staff always told me that the way I communicated with them changed when my depression was at its worst and they compensated for that. Even the dog and the cat compensated for my depression. I can see it now that I no longer manage people on a daily basis. | |||
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"Just because you have depression doesn't necessarily mean you are unable to work. She is taking advantage of the system! Agreed, I suffered depression about 7 years ago, I carried on working, hid it from family and friends - in effect only I knew and eventually my GP when I went to visit them. I was prescribed pills which I didn't really want to take and stopped after 2 months because they had no effect. It was the counselling and the advice to open up to my family and friends that saw me on the road to recovery and I haven't look back since. But, for the whole time, my work never suffered and I still achieved performance bonuses." that isn't always the case though. Clinical depression can immobilise a person both physically and mentally. I spent months on a sofa unable to eat or sleep. My nerves were affected and I went down to 8 stone. Counselling would have had no effect on me at that time. After a couple of years I went to work,slowly getting my physical and mental health back. I'll never be my old self again or be able to take on the responsibility I used to. Recovery from a serious breakdown can take a lifetime. All you can do is face each day and be thankful you have that day to face. With regards to the woman in question, I saw a few minutes of one episode and have no idea what her background is so I won't make any kind of judgement. Some days the washing up is a huge task for depressed people and it's not always a case of mind over matter | |||
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"Unless the op is a Clinical Psychologist or a medical doctor, consultant etc, who has spent time with Dee, then he has absolutely no right to make an assessment. If he is trained, and had made an assessment, then he should keep all of his patient records in strictest confidence. There are millions of people worldwide who suffer from invisible disabilities and conditions. These people are usually some of the most disadvantaged, due to the ignorance that persists in society at large. If you have nothing but good will towards those who are subject to health conditions that you know nothing about, then it is wise to keep your ignorant mouth shut. " I suspect that people have been swayed with the overall content and even the title of the programme. | |||
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"Unless the op is a Clinical Psychologist or a medical doctor, consultant etc, who has spent time with Dee, then he has absolutely no right to make an assessment. If he is trained, and had made an assessment, then he should keep all of his patient records in strictest confidence. There are millions of people worldwide who suffer from invisible disabilities and conditions. These people are usually some of the most disadvantaged, due to the ignorance that persists in society at large. If you have nothing but good will towards those who are subject to health conditions that you know nothing about, then it is wise to keep your ignorant mouth shut. " I have a right to an opinion! and she self confessed her"depression" and her kids have adhd ! which enables her to claim carers allowance! | |||
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"Just because you have depression doesn't necessarily mean you are unable to work. She is taking advantage of the system!" she has the energy and confidence to represent the street for the while series! she could work I don't claim to know anything about depression but I do know as an employer who could and would be capable of earning a wage | |||
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"I would be more than happy for her to continue to claim benefits as long as she spent some of her money on a bra " Why ? | |||
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"Let's be honest if you where suffering from depressing you wouldn't want them cameras any were near you " Have you actually read anything that has been written in this thread? | |||
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"I bet the lass has a box like a butchers dustbin the not as pleasant to the nose" And this is relevant, how? | |||
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"Let's be honest if you where suffering from depressing you wouldn't want them cameras any were near you " Stephen Fry doesn't get castigated for being on television with his depression does he? Lots of depressed people have been and are on television. | |||
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"I bet the lass has a box like a butchers dustbin the not as pleasant to the nose" | |||
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"I bet the lass has a box like a butchers dustbin the not as pleasant to the nose And this is relevant, how?" you feel very strongly about this? do toy suffer from depression and are you receiving benefits for this? | |||
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"Just because you have depression doesn't necessarily mean you are unable to work. She is taking advantage of the system!" You can turn that on its head and say that because she has depression, it doesn't always mean she is capable of work either. | |||
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" I suspect that people have been swayed with the overall content and even the title of the programme." It's a vile concept of a programme. I suspect those that commissioned and produced it are proud that depression is now _iewed by some as a sign of laziness. | |||
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"I bet the lass has a box like a butchers dustbin the not as pleasant to the nose" actualy, i would prefer her to a lot of men on here. | |||
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"I bet the lass has a box like a butchers dustbin the not as pleasant to the nose And this is relevant, how?" | |||
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"I bet the lass has a box like a butchers dustbin the not as pleasant to the nose And this is relevant, how?" you feel very strongly about this? do toy suffer from depression and are you receiving benefits for this? | |||
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"I bet the lass has a box like a butchers dustbin the not as pleasant to the nose And this is relevant, how? you feel very strongly about this? do toy suffer from depression and are you receiving benefits for this?" If you read the thread, I've already said that yes I do suffer from depression and no, I am not claiming benefits as I am now a full time student having previously been an IT Consultant and a photographer for the previous 28 years, earning up to £120k per year (during the Y2K boom years) and on average about £35k/year whilst being clinically depressed for the majority of those years. What I feel strongly about is people coming to incorrect conclusions by comparing apples to oranges. | |||
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" I suspect that people have been swayed with the overall content and even the title of the programme. It's a vile concept of a programme. I suspect those that commissioned and produced it are proud that depression is now _iewed by some as a sign of laziness." | |||
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"I bet the lass has a box like a butchers dustbin the not as pleasant to the nose And this is relevant, how? you feel very strongly about this? do toy suffer from depression and are you receiving benefits for this? If you read the thread, I've already said that yes I do suffer from depression and no, I am not claiming benefits as I am now a full time student having previously been an IT Consultant and a photographer for the previous 28 years, earning up to £120k per year (during the Y2K boom years) and on average about £35k/year whilst being clinically depressed for the majority of those years. What I feel strongly about is people coming to incorrect conclusions by comparing apples to oranges." ok but how can your be sure my conclusion is incorrect? how can you be sure that she has depression so severe she can't work! and how can you conclude from my opinion that i'm ignorant and ill informed | |||
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"I bet the lass has a box like a butchers dustbin the not as pleasant to the nose And this is relevant, how? you feel very strongly about this? do toy suffer from depression and are you receiving benefits for this? If you read the thread, I've already said that yes I do suffer from depression and no, I am not claiming benefits as I am now a full time student having previously been an IT Consultant and a photographer for the previous 28 years, earning up to £120k per year (during the Y2K boom years) and on average about £35k/year whilst being clinically depressed for the majority of those years. What I feel strongly about is people coming to incorrect conclusions by comparing apples to oranges. ok but how can your be sure my conclusion is incorrect? how can you be sure that she has depression so severe she can't work! and how can you conclude from my opinion that i'm ignorant and ill informed" I haven't suggested that you were ignorant or I'll-informed, I left that to others. Your conclusion, however, is only one of many possible conclusions, therefore it isn't really a conclusion, just another opinion. | |||
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"Let's be honest if you where suffering from depressing you wouldn't want them cameras any were near you Have you actually read anything that has been written in this thread?" im replying to his question with my opinion ,i dont need to read whats been written in this thread? | |||
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"I bet the lass has a box like a butchers dustbin the not as pleasant to the nose And this is relevant, how? you feel very strongly about this? do toy suffer from depression and are you receiving benefits for this? If you read the thread, I've already said that yes I do suffer from depression and no, I am not claiming benefits as I am now a full time student having previously been an IT Consultant and a photographer for the previous 28 years, earning up to £120k per year (during the Y2K boom years) and on average about £35k/year whilst being clinically depressed for the majority of those years. What I feel strongly about is people coming to incorrect conclusions by comparing apples to oranges. ok but how can your be sure my conclusion is incorrect? how can you be sure that she has depression so severe she can't work! and how can you conclude from my opinion that i'm ignorant and ill informed" Equally how xan you be sure in your assessment of her? | |||
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"my opinion is she could work if she wanted! and she is scamming benefits ! " | |||
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"Let's be honest if you where suffering from depressing you wouldn't want them cameras any were near you Have you actually read anything that has been written in this thread? im replying to his question with my opinion ,i dont need to read whats been written in this thread? " It would help if you had though, as you would then realise that suffering from depression would not preclude you from having cameras near you as it's perfectly possible to function without the wider world knowing you have a problem. | |||
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"Let's be honest if you where suffering from depressing you wouldn't want them cameras any were near you Have you actually read anything that has been written in this thread? im replying to his question with my opinion ,i dont need to read whats been written in this thread? It would help if you had though, as you would then realise that suffering from depression would not preclude you from having cameras near you as it's perfectly possible to function without the wider world knowing you have a problem." I have suffered from depression myself and i know ppl who suffer from it ,believe me most ppl who suffer from full on depression will be straight up them stirs and hiding from them cameras ,she was acting like it was the white dee show | |||
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"What shocked me more than anything about that programme was they were all crying poverty but still had the money to buy cans of lager ,ciggys , ,ipads ,iphones ,internet ,fry ups in the cafe ,most of the kids had designer clothes on ,that didnt look like poverty to me " benefits scam is what it should be called! i'm aware there are genuine people on the street who want work! i'm referring to the ones who were happy to be filmed and were happy to sit in front of the camera and blame the government for there situation which I believe was their own choice of lifestyle | |||
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"What shocked me more than anything about that programme was they were all crying poverty but still had the money to buy cans of lager ,ciggys , ,ipads ,iphones ,internet ,fry ups in the cafe ,most of the kids had designer clothes on ,that didnt look like poverty to me benefits scam is what it should be called! i'm aware there are genuine people on the street who want work! i'm referring to the ones who were happy to be filmed and were happy to sit in front of the camera and blame the government for there situation which I believe was their own choice of lifestyle" I agree with you mate 100% | |||
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"What shocked me more than anything about that programme was they were all crying poverty but still had the money to buy cans of lager ,ciggys , ,ipads ,iphones ,internet ,fry ups in the cafe ,most of the kids had designer clothes on ,that didnt look like poverty to me benefits scam is what it should be called! i'm aware there are genuine people on the street who want work! i'm referring to the ones who were happy to be filmed and were happy to sit in front of the camera and blame the government for there situation which I believe was their own choice of lifestyle" I agree with the above and she did steal 13k from her employer for her boyfriends crack addiction. I don't know how she has the cheek to sit in on the debate, blaming the government for her problems, she should be in prison | |||
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"maybe should have waited till after working hours to start this thread and I would have got a more balanced reaction ! lol" why are you posting from work like | |||
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"maybe should have waited till after working hours to start this thread and I would have got a more balanced reaction ! lol" They exposed them selfs for what they really are | |||
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"maybe should have waited till after working hours to start this thread and I would have got a more balanced reaction ! lolwhy are you posting from work like" because I can | |||
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"maybe should have waited till after working hours to start this thread and I would have got a more balanced reaction ! lolwhy are you posting from work like because I can" was a question , and just because others post dont mean they aint working | |||
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"maybe should have waited till after working hours to start this thread and I would have got a more balanced reaction ! lol" assuming aren't you | |||
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"I'm a Leeds United fan! Now if you want to talk about depression !!!!!! " | |||
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"I'm a Leeds United fan! Now if you want to talk about depression !!!!!! " That's not depression that's machosism | |||
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"After all these years I am still amazed how people can make judgements based on a television programme or News article, they are written purely to get ratings, there may of been two days filming to get 30 minutes of contentious bollox" Well did have benefits street the live debate | |||
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"After all these years I am still amazed how people can make judgements based on a television programme or News article, they are written purely to get ratings, there may of been two days filming to get 30 minutes of contentious bollox Well did have benefits street the live debate " she stated people are knocking on her door 24/7 for photos and inter_iews ! also she helps the other residents on the street deal with social services and advise on how to claim their benefits and advise them on what they are "entitled" to hardly the symptoms of someone depressed enough to lose the ability to work and provide for her family | |||
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"What shocked me more than anything about that programme was they were all crying poverty but still had the money to buy cans of lager ,ciggys , ,ipads ,iphones ,internet ,fry ups in the cafe ,most of the kids had designer clothes on ,that didnt look like poverty to me benefits scam is what it should be called! i'm aware there are genuine people on the street who want work! i'm referring to the ones who were happy to be filmed and were happy to sit in front of the camera and blame the government for there situation which I believe was their own choice of lifestyle I agree with the above and she did steal 13k from her employer for her boyfriends crack addiction. I don't know how she has the cheek to sit in on the debate, blaming the government for her problems, she should be in prison" | |||
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"What shocked me more than anything about that programme was they were all crying poverty but still had the money to buy cans of lager ,ciggys , ,ipads ,iphones ,internet ,fry ups in the cafe ,most of the kids had designer clothes on ,that didnt look like poverty to me benefits scam is what it should be called! i'm aware there are genuine people on the street who want work! i'm referring to the ones who were happy to be filmed and were happy to sit in front of the camera and blame the government for there situation which I believe was their own choice of lifestyle I agree with the above and she did steal 13k from her employer for her boyfriends crack addiction. I don't know how she has the cheek to sit in on the debate, blaming the government for her problems, she should be in prison" That incident happened a fair few years ago and she was punished for her actions. She made a mistake I think a fair few of us have made mistakes in life I know I have. | |||
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"Did a woman just admit she has been wrong? " Of course I will always admit to my mistakes and when I'm in the wrong...always have and always will | |||
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"awa and bile yer heed,therz much worse folk in this world than white dee. x x X " no excuse to defend her tho ! its fraud | |||
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"After all these years I am still amazed how people can make judgements based on a television programme or News article, they are written purely to get ratings, there may of been two days filming to get 30 minutes of contentious bollox Well did have benefits street the live debate she stated people are knocking on her door 24/7 for photos and inter_iews ! also she helps the other residents on the street deal with social services and advise on how to claim their benefits and advise them on what they are "entitled" to hardly the symptoms of someone depressed enough to lose the ability to work and provide for her family" Good - underclaiming is rife in the benefits system, the real tragedy is that people are suffering because they are not claiming what they are entitled to. | |||
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"awa and bile yer heed,therz much worse folk in this world than white dee. x x X no excuse to defend her tho ! its fraud" whatever fraud she has done she wil have been charged or whatever like anyone else.and if you mean fraud for claiming benefits Thats the same.she cant just walk into the broo and claim sick money. doctors lines and a long process is needed.seems to me she's an easy target x X X | |||
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"people (ESP those who genuinely suffer from depression) should be up in arms over her public scam not trying to defend her" Maybe people see life in lots of different colours and not just black and white... | |||
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"After all these years I am still amazed how people can make judgements based on a television programme or News article, they are written purely to get ratings, there may of been two days filming to get 30 minutes of contentious bollox Well did have benefits street the live debate she stated people are knocking on her door 24/7 for photos and inter_iews ! also she helps the other residents on the street deal with social services and advise on how to claim their benefits and advise them on what they are "entitled" to hardly the symptoms of someone depressed enough to lose the ability to work and provide for her family Good - underclaiming is rife in the benefits system, the real tragedy is that people are suffering because they are not claiming what they are entitled to. " well fair play to white dee so as she seems to know the systems loop hopes inside out ya fair play to her! we edjits working! fie what | |||
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"she might be ill or very clever , did notice that during the show she never had any signs of depression that we saw and was always chippa and up beat even managing to use choice words in front off and to her youngest child . Depression can be one of the easy things to fake unlike say loosing a leg for a benefit claim ( but some still work hard with out a limb) And was her depression a result of her court case with her former employee who she scammed for a over 10k ?????" Her depression occurred when she lost her mum... | |||
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"she might be ill or very clever , did notice that during the show she never had any signs of depression that we saw and was always chippa and up beat even managing to use choice words in front off and to her youngest child . Depression can be one of the easy things to fake unlike say loosing a leg for a benefit claim ( but some still work hard with out a limb) And was her depression a result of her court case with her former employee who she scammed for a over 10k ????? Her depression occurred when she lost her mum..." oh please! | |||
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"she might be ill or very clever , did notice that during the show she never had any signs of depression that we saw and was always chippa and up beat even managing to use choice words in front off and to her youngest child . Depression can be one of the easy things to fake unlike say loosing a leg for a benefit claim ( but some still work hard with out a limb) And was her depression a result of her court case with her former employee who she scammed for a over 10k ????? Her depression occurred when she lost her mum... oh please! " | |||
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"people (ESP those who genuinely suffer from depression) should be up in arms over her public scam not trying to defend her" It's not about defending her. The odd bit I've seen of her she's seems someone I would not want to be around, but she is vilified because of the very blatent political agenda of an incredibly biased and sensationalist TV program. And as some one that openly admits to mental health issues, I chose not to condemn others who I do not know and certainly wouldn't speculate as to the true extent of her problems. And that's not defending her, it's about total and utter contempt for those with the belief they can diagnose someone else's mental health and use their ill-informed opinion to making sweeping generalisations. | |||
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"well fair play to white dee so as she seems to know the systems loop hopes inside out ya fair play to her! we edjits working! fie what" So are you saying that you would aspire to her standard of living? | |||
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"people (ESP those who genuinely suffer from depression) should be up in arms over her public scam not trying to defend her It's not about defending her. The odd bit I've seen of her she's seems someone I would not want to be around, but she is vilified because of the very blatent political agenda of an incredibly biased and sensationalist TV program. And as some one that openly admits to mental health issues, I chose not to condemn others who I do not know and certainly wouldn't speculate as to the true extent of her problems. And that's not defending her, it's about total and utter contempt for those with the belief they can diagnose someone else's mental health and use their ill-informed opinion to making sweeping generalisations. " I think the point is she lives on state hand out , crys poverty yes can drink , smoke , buy items like a I pad ( yes it might be on the never never . And yet with her depression can go out partying and be a pretend z lister . If you have really meet any one that suffers from this illness you will truly understand that the life style she leads doe not fit the portrail . And yes I have been there with some one who has suffered this illness and sometimes slips back . And its not pretty so please do not preach to me | |||
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"well fair play to white dee so as she seems to know the systems loop hopes inside out ya fair play to her! we edjits working! fie what So are you saying that you would aspire to her standard of living?" she's committing fraud in my opinion and should be made repay all benefits she has obtained in false claims! | |||
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"people (ESP those who genuinely suffer from depression) should be up in arms over her public scam not trying to defend her It's not about defending her. The odd bit I've seen of her she's seems someone I would not want to be around, but she is vilified because of the very blatent political agenda of an incredibly biased and sensationalist TV program. And as some one that openly admits to mental health issues, I chose not to condemn others who I do not know and certainly wouldn't speculate as to the true extent of her problems. And that's not defending her, it's about total and utter contempt for those with the belief they can diagnose someone else's mental health and use their ill-informed opinion to making sweeping generalisations. I think the point is she lives on state hand out , crys poverty yes can drink , smoke , buy items like a I pad ( yes it might be on the never never . And yet with her depression can go out partying and be a pretend z lister . If you have really meet any one that suffers from this illness you will truly understand that the life style she leads doe not fit the portrail . And yes I have been there with some one who has suffered this illness and sometimes slips back . And its not pretty so please do not preach to me " When you accuse me of preaching, I suggest you re-read my post that you quoted. Specifically the bit that says "as someone that openly admits to mental health issues"... | |||
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"well fair play to white dee so as she seems to know the systems loop hopes inside out ya fair play to her! we edjits working! fie what So are you saying that you would aspire to her standard of living? she's committing fraud in my opinion and should be made repay all benefits she has obtained in false claims! " That's not answering the question is it? | |||
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"Its been said before and I'll say it again: the real idiots are people who presume that they can diagnose somebody's mental disorder by watching them for a few edited minutes on TV. Those people are actual fucktards. " I actually despiar at some of the attitudes on this thread. I have been told more than once that I'm "not the sort of person who you'd expect to be depressed". What the fuck does that even mean? | |||
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"Its been said before and I'll say it again: the real idiots are people who presume that they can diagnose somebody's mental disorder by watching them for a few edited minutes on TV. Those people are actual fucktards. I actually despiar at some of the attitudes on this thread. I have been told more than once that I'm "not the sort of person who you'd expect to be depressed". What the fuck does that even mean?" People are not educated or choose not to be educated regarding mental health stigma so become narrow minded when someone does not conform to their way of thinking | |||
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" Mental health is still in its infancy and healthcare professionals are constantly learning. " My GP gave me a very tentative diagnosis when he refered me to a pyschologist. My case worker has refused to be drawn on a diagnosis. Yet people on here can diagnose someone based on a TV programme and their own prejudices | |||
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"Its been said before and I'll say it again: the real idiots are people who presume that they can diagnose somebody's mental disorder by watching them for a few edited minutes on TV. Those people are actual fucktards. I actually despiar at some of the attitudes on this thread. I have been told more than once that I'm "not the sort of person who you'd expect to be depressed". What the fuck does that even mean?" I have known a few people with depression over the years and at least ones depression started when her mother died (when she was in her 20s). You'd never know to chat to them down the pub on a friday night. Its not called the black dog for nothing. | |||
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" Mental health is still in its infancy and healthcare professionals are constantly learning. My GP gave me a very tentative diagnosis when he refered me to a pyschologist. My case worker has refused to be drawn on a diagnosis. Yet people on here can diagnose someone based on a TV programme and their own prejudices" Anyone who gets referred ought to appreciate their GP has more of the patient's interest at heart than other issues, as resources/funding is limited, sadly. | |||
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"i'm not questioning her being depressed ! but my opinion is she is fit to work! she has loads of energy to help others claim their benefits and comes across as very confident! she clearly feels this government has failed her in some way and believes she should be provided for" How would you know? Have you met her outside an edited TV prog? Are you a mental health professional? If so, your opinion counts for fuck all really doesn't it? | |||
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"i'm not questioning her being depressed ! but my opinion is she is fit to work! she has loads of energy to help others claim their benefits and comes across as very confident! she clearly feels this government has failed her in some way and believes she should be provided for How would you know? Have you met her outside an edited TV prog? Are you a mental health professional? If so, your opinion counts for fuck all really doesn't it?" | |||
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"i'm not questioning her being depressed ! but my opinion is she is fit to work! she has loads of energy to help others claim their benefits and comes across as very confident! she clearly feels this government has failed her in some way and believes she should be provided for" If you are saying that she is fit for work, then by definition you are challenging her being depressed | |||
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"i'm not questioning her being depressed ! but my opinion is she is fit to work! she has loads of energy to help others claim their benefits and comes across as very confident! she clearly feels this government has failed her in some way and believes she should be provided for How would you know? Have you met her outside an edited TV prog? Are you a mental health professional? If so, your opinion counts for fuck all really doesn't it?" maybe not to you but its still my opinion! can I ask are you suffering from a mental disorder? you receiving Benefits? | |||
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"i'm not questioning her being depressed ! but my opinion is she is fit to work! she has loads of energy to help others claim their benefits and comes across as very confident! she clearly feels this government has failed her in some way and believes she should be provided for If you are saying that she is fit for work, then by definition you are challenging her being depressed " depressed people can work! | |||
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"depressed people can work! " Not all can. | |||
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"i'm not questioning her being depressed ! but my opinion is she is fit to work! she has loads of energy to help others claim their benefits and comes across as very confident! she clearly feels this government has failed her in some way and believes she should be provided for How would you know? Have you met her outside an edited TV prog? Are you a mental health professional? If so, your opinion counts for fuck all really doesn't it? maybe not to you but its still my opinion! can I ask are you suffering from a mental disorder? you receiving Benefits?" You can ask and the answer is no and no. I have however watched depression consume one or two people I know. In one of the cases it fed into alcoholism. It ruins people. It is also a disease. | |||
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"i'm not questioning her being depressed ! but my opinion is she is fit to work! she has loads of energy to help others claim their benefits and comes across as very confident! she clearly feels this government has failed her in some way and believes she should be provided for How would you know? Have you met her outside an edited TV prog? Are you a mental health professional? If so, your opinion counts for fuck all really doesn't it? maybe not to you but its still my opinion! can I ask are you suffering from a mental disorder? you receiving Benefits?" That's the second time you've asked that question. Trying to turn your argument in to a personal attack doesn't exactly strengthen your position... | |||
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"depressed people can work! Not all can." | |||
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"i'm not questioning her being depressed ! but my opinion is she is fit to work! she has loads of energy to help others claim their benefits and comes across as very confident! she clearly feels this government has failed her in some way and believes she should be provided for If you are saying that she is fit for work, then by definition you are challenging her being depressed depressed people can work! " I give up | |||
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"depends on the severity of the depression and im sure she was assessed to see if she could work" Yeah but those mental health experts know fuck all, the extent of her problems can be diagnosed just by watching the TV apparently | |||
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"i'm not questioning her being depressed ! but my opinion is she is fit to work! she has loads of energy to help others claim their benefits and comes across as very confident! she clearly feels this government has failed her in some way and believes she should be provided for If you are saying that she is fit for work, then by definition you are challenging her being depressed depressed people can work! I give up " have you seen the program and more importantly the aftermath show which was live? | |||
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"depends on the severity of the depression and im sure she was assessed to see if she could work Yeah but those mental health experts know fuck all, the extent of her problems can be diagnosed just by watching the TV apparently" I wonder how many armchair experts could watch somebody with a physical symptom on tv like a limp, say and then diagnose it? And yet diagnosing mental disorders is apparently a piece of piss. | |||
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"depends on the severity of the depression and im sure she was assessed to see if she could work Yeah but those mental health experts know fuck all, the extent of her problems can be diagnosed just by watching the TV apparently I wonder how many armchair experts could watch somebody with a physical symptom on tv like a limp, say and then diagnose it? And yet diagnosing mental disorders is apparently a piece of piss. " she is clearly fit to work! and has already a criminal record for fraud ! | |||
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"i'm not questioning her being depressed ! but my opinion is she is fit to work! she has loads of energy to help others claim their benefits and comes across as very confident! she clearly feels this government has failed her in some way and believes she should be provided for How would you know? Have you met her outside an edited TV prog? Are you a mental health professional? If so, your opinion counts for fuck all really doesn't it? maybe not to you but its still my opinion! can I ask are you suffering from a mental disorder? you receiving Benefits?" How very personal and irrelevant to a balanced debate...shit I forgot it isn't! | |||
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"i'm not questioning her being depressed ! but my opinion is she is fit to work! she has loads of energy to help others claim their benefits and comes across as very confident! she clearly feels this government has failed her in some way and believes she should be provided for How would you know? Have you met her outside an edited TV prog? Are you a mental health professional? If so, your opinion counts for fuck all really doesn't it? maybe not to you but its still my opinion! can I ask are you suffering from a mental disorder? you receiving Benefits?How very personal and irrelevant to a balanced debate...shit I forgot it isn't!" Its fine - I answered it anyway, just to show that people dont have to actually have mental disorders to think that help should be afforded to those that do. I am lucky, I have had a couple of physical things, but on the whole I am fit and together and more than capa ble of running my own business and I think it is up to the capable to aid those that are less so. "from each according to his means, to each according to his needs" | |||
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" If so, your opinion counts for fuck all really doesn't it? maybe not to you but its still my opinion! can I ask are you suffering from a mental disorder? you receiving Benefits?" You going to ask everyone that disagrees with you the same question until you find someone that is depressed and on benefits? | |||
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"To be fair op you know fuck all about her to make such judgements on her apart from a well edited tv programme....this thread is laughable " I know drinking alcohol and hanging around doing fuck all every day certainly leads to depression! | |||
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" If so, your opinion counts for fuck all really doesn't it? maybe not to you but its still my opinion! can I ask are you suffering from a mental disorder? you receiving Benefits? You going to ask everyone that disagrees with you the same question until you find someone that is depressed and on benefits?" He is doing an undercover survey for the DWP | |||
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"To be fair op you know fuck all about her to make such judgements on her apart from a well edited tv programme....this thread is laughable I know drinking alcohol and hanging around doing fuck all every day certainly leads to depression! " Lol...laughable | |||
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"To be fair op you know fuck all about her to make such judgements on her apart from a well edited tv programme....this thread is laughable I know drinking alcohol and hanging around doing fuck all every day certainly leads to depression! " I sincerely hope you never ever have to know what Alcoholism is like, and I hope you never get diagnosed with a Mental Illness. | |||
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"i'm not questioning her being depressed ! but my opinion is she is fit to work! she has loads of energy to help others claim their benefits and comes across as very confident! she clearly feels this government has failed her in some way and believes she should be provided for If you are saying that she is fit for work, then by definition you are challenging her being depressed depressed people can work! " Hunny not everyone can dig holes and lay tarmac depression or not you need to stick to what you are good at and reading this thread its digging holes as you are not much cop at being an amateur doctor. | |||
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"To be fair op you know fuck all about her to make such judgements on her apart from a well edited tv programme....this thread is laughable I know drinking alcohol and hanging around doing fuck all every day certainly leads to depression! " Has it ever crossed your mind that they could be symptoms rather than the cause? | |||
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"To be fair op you know fuck all about her to make such judgements on her apart from a well edited tv programme....this thread is laughable I know drinking alcohol and hanging around doing fuck all every day certainly leads to depression! " No, that leads to alcoholism when done in excess. Depression is caused by some form of loss: job/loved one/identity/mobility/health... To name a few triggers. | |||
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" If so, your opinion counts for fuck all really doesn't it? maybe not to you but its still my opinion! can I ask are you suffering from a mental disorder? you receiving Benefits? You going to ask everyone that disagrees with you the same question until you find someone that is depressed and on benefits? He is doing an undercover survey for the DWP " I didn't know they operated out of Limerick! Mind you, at least he can't wheel out the usual rubbish about his taxes paying for her lifestyle. Unless he's just working out there of course; undercover for the DWP. | |||
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"To be fair op you know fuck all about her to make such judgements on her apart from a well edited tv programme....this thread is laughable I know drinking alcohol and hanging around doing fuck all every day certainly leads to depression! Has it ever crossed your mind that they could be symptoms rather than the cause?" Crossed his what? | |||
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"To be fair op you know fuck all about her to make such judgements on her apart from a well edited tv programme....this thread is laughable I know drinking alcohol and hanging around doing fuck all every day certainly leads to depression! Has it ever crossed your mind that they could be symptoms rather than the cause? Crossed his what?" Ha! I like you | |||
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"To be fair op you know fuck all about her to make such judgements on her apart from a well edited tv programme....this thread is laughable I know drinking alcohol and hanging around doing fuck all every day certainly leads to depression! Lol...laughable " its a proven fact that alcohol is a depressant! and being inactive leads to low self esteem you should know this being a self confessed sufferer | |||
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"To be fair op you know fuck all about her to make such judgements on her apart from a well edited tv programme....this thread is laughable I know drinking alcohol and hanging around doing fuck all every day certainly leads to depression! Lol...laughable its a proven fact that alcohol is a depressant! and being inactive leads to low self esteem you should know this being a self confessed sufferer" Sufferer of what??? | |||
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"To be fair op you know fuck all about her to make such judgements on her apart from a well edited tv programme....this thread is laughable I know drinking alcohol and hanging around doing fuck all every day certainly leads to depression! Lol...laughable its a proven fact that alcohol is a depressant! and being inactive leads to low self esteem you should know this being a self confessed sufferer" A depressant isn't a cause of depression. Often people drink to numb their psychological pain, so the problem becomes two fold if they become addicted. | |||
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"To be fair op you know fuck all about her to make such judgements on her apart from a well edited tv programme....this thread is laughable I know drinking alcohol and hanging around doing fuck all every day certainly leads to depression! Lol...laughable its a proven fact that alcohol is a depressant! and being inactive leads to low self esteem you should know this being a self confessed sufferer A depressant isn't a cause of depression. Often people drink to numb their psychological pain, so the problem becomes two fold if they become addicted." I just want to know what I have self confessed to as I don't have a clue lol | |||
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"Meanwhile, Chris Moyles has been caught stealing a million quid through tax evasion. And there'll be hundreds like him doing the same. And yet it's people on benefits, stealing a fraction of that amount, who have their lives scrutinised and judged. Bah." It gives some people great pleasure to kick downwards. | |||
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"Meanwhile, Chris Moyles has been caught stealing a million quid through tax evasion. And there'll be hundreds like him doing the same. And yet it's people on benefits, stealing a fraction of that amount, who have their lives scrutinised and judged. Bah." To be fair he didn't steal millions he had a creative accountant who helped him avoid handing over less the state. | |||
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"anyone that supports white dee supports benefit fraud ! " Yes of course they do... | |||
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"anyone that supports white dee supports benefit fraud ! " Aww bless you love to generalise your village must real miss you when you go on holiday. | |||
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"She's kidded the benefit system an it seems she's kidded most on here aswell ,the woman's a phoney plain an simple ,she exposed her self on that show for all to see and the government ,her and others like her have just added fuel to the governments fire " Do you not think that was the intention of the program? Guess some people fell for it... | |||
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"She's kidded the benefit system an it seems she's kidded most on here aswell ,the woman's a phoney plain an simple ,she exposed her self on that show for all to see and the government ,her and others like her have just added fuel to the governments fire " Another amateur doctor bless do all you shovel carriers aspire to the medical profession or is it an inane action like a moth to a flame. | |||
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"No just don't suffer fools gladly " It must be hell then for you shaving in a morning. | |||
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"No just don't suffer fools gladly It must be hell then for you shaving in a morning. " Don't get it | |||
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"No just don't suffer fools gladly It must be hell then for you shaving in a morning. Don't get it " I'm not surprised I heard times were leaner than an Afghan in Guantanamo on here for you. | |||
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"No just don't suffer fools gladly It must be hell then for you shaving in a morning. Don't get it I'm not surprised I heard times were leaner than an Afghan in Guantanamo on here for you. What you drinking? It sounds lethel " Im not what's lethel? Something poor scousers brew from potatoes? | |||
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"who fancies a fuck..hope this is the 175th post " ur getting it cos u laughed last..while playing with ur hot tight wet fanny | |||
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"Just because you have depression doesn't necessarily mean you are unable to work. She is taking advantage of the system!" Exactly! And many more like her do | |||
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