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By *ee Viante OP   Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Is offering adult services on a pro basis, (i.e. definitely no penetrative sex etc), any different to prostitution in your opinion? If so, how?

Is either a reason to look down on anyone?

What's with the stigma attached to adult work?

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By *horltzMan
over a year ago

heysham

I suppose it depends if they're charging , each to their own in my opinion

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


"I suppose it depends if they're charging , each to their own in my opinion "

I think that's implied

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By *ee Viante OP   Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"I suppose it depends if they're charging , each to their own in my opinion "

That's what pro means in relation to services so less implied and more clearly stated.

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By *alldarkhandsomedaveMan
over a year ago

Derby

No different at all, just less in it for the guy paying if penetration isn't on offer.

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By *ee Viante OP   Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"No different at all, just less in it for the guy paying if penetration isn't on offer. "

Depends what the service is and whether he wants sex, no?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Why are you thinking about offering your services??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is offering adult services on a pro basis, (i.e. definitely no penetrative sex etc), any different to prostitution in your opinion? If so, how?

Is either a reason to look down on anyone?

What's with the stigma attached to adult work?"

Is this research into setting up an escort agency? Let me know the hourly rate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a gag in a Family Guy episode that points out that the only difference between the legality of prostitution and pornography is a camera.

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By *ee Viante OP   Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Why are you thinking about offering your services?? "

Not on here, certainly!

No, it's from a discussion I had with someone about the stigma.

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By *ee Viante OP   Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Is offering adult services on a pro basis, (i.e. definitely no penetrative sex etc), any different to prostitution in your opinion? If so, how?

Is either a reason to look down on anyone?

What's with the stigma attached to adult work?

Is this research into setting up an escort agency? Let me know the hourly rate."

Ha, no it's not. I think that market is fairly flooded already.

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By *ee Viante OP   Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"There is a gag in a Family Guy episode that points out that the only difference between the legality of prostitution and pornography is a camera. "

Charging for sex is legal. Solicitation and running a brothel are illegal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would rather work in the pound shop

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By *ee Viante OP   Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Would rather work in the pound shop"

So you don't see any distinction?

Why the stigma? Selling merchandise, selling adult services, selling knowledge, where's the difference?

Genuine question.

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By *alldarkhandsomedaveMan
over a year ago

Derby


"No different at all, just less in it for the guy paying if penetration isn't on offer.

Depends what the service is and whether he wants sex, no?"

Agree but it doesn't change the prostitution part, just reduces potential clientele!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Is offering adult services on a pro basis, (i.e. definitely no penetrative sex etc), any different to prostitution in your opinion? If so, how?

Is either a reason to look down on anyone?

What's with the stigma attached to adult work?"

Hmm, I don't think there is a difference between offering adult services for money and prostitution...e.g. a happy ending in a massage parlour because you are still selling your sexual favours or earning your living from sex in some way (I know that opens up a whole new can of worms).

The stigma comes from the belief that sex is sacred, essentially wrong unless its exclusive to two people in some sort of marriage and all the other moral and social ideas twisted up with a bodily function.

There is no reason to look down on anyone who works in the sex industry unless they are forcing other people to take part in it unwillingly..pimps, traffickers etc. There are loads of people who give these services for free and people look down on them too...its a funny old game this sex stuff.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Would rather work in the pound shop

So you don't see any distinction?

Why the stigma? Selling merchandise, selling adult services, selling knowledge, where's the difference?

Genuine question. "

The stigma is bound up in so much that has gone before though, hundreds of years of the church and society telling us that sex with anyone but your legal partner is wrong. I don't see much wrong in working in the pound shop or selling sex

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By *ee Viante OP   Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"No different at all, just less in it for the guy paying if penetration isn't on offer.

Depends what the service is and whether he wants sex, no?

Agree but it doesn't change the prostitution part, just reduces potential clientele! "

If the person involved wishes to offer specific things that do not include penetrative sex then that's up to them.

Besides, a lot of men (usually men, sometimes women), get sex at home but have desires they don't feel they can ask for or their wives don't want to do.

As an example... adult babies. It's a sexual adult service but involves no sex. A lot of men are into it but wouldn't ask for it at home. Is providing a professional adult baby service prostitution?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

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By *ee Viante OP   Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example..."

Or withholding sex to get your own way.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

Or withholding sex to get your own way."

Bloody hell! Do people do that? No wonder there's such a cynical _iew of relationships.

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By *ee Viante OP   Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

Or withholding sex to get your own way.

Bloody hell! Do people do that? No wonder there's such a cynical _iew of relationships. "

Some do, yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example..."

Probably cheaper with a prostitute!

Yes, there is stigma attached but there shouldn't be. Not to the actual prostitutes - they normally have reasons for doing it. It's the pimps, drug dealers etc that are part of that world that are the problem

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

Or withholding sex to get your own way.

Bloody hell! Do people do that? No wonder there's such a cynical _iew of relationships. "

I don't personally as i dont use sex to my gain but I've heard where partners know how to get their own way by the means of sex...Its sad that a relationship turns out like that...

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By *rtemisiaWoman
over a year ago

Norwich


"Is offering adult services on a pro basis, (i.e. definitely no penetrative sex etc), any different to prostitution in your opinion? If so, how?

Is either a reason to look down on anyone?

What's with the stigma attached to adult work?

Hmm, I don't think there is a difference between offering adult services for money and prostitution...e.g. a happy ending in a massage parlour because you are still selling your sexual favours or earning your living from sex in some way (I know that opens up a whole new can of worms).

The stigma comes from the belief that sex is sacred, essentially wrong unless its exclusive to two people in some sort of marriage and all the other moral and social ideas twisted up with a bodily function.

There is no reason to look down on anyone who works in the sex industry unless they are forcing other people to take part in it unwillingly..pimps, traffickers etc. There are loads of people who give these services for free and people look down on them too...its a funny old game this sex stuff. "

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I have often thought that a good business could be set up offering services such as humiliation etc. I know that such services already exist but I'm sure there's room for more. I don't think it's prostitution in the strict sense of the word but it's still earning money from somebody elses sexual needs and where does that begin and end?

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I don't see anything wrong with it myself. It's a job, same as any other. I also think greater efforts should be made to protect working girls.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't see anything wrong with it myself. It's a job, same as any other. I also think greater efforts should be made to protect working girls. "

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I have no issues with it at all as long as the person is up front about it and uses the appropriate websites.

it comes in many guises within the swinging world and that spoils the scene.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

Or withholding sex to get your own way.

Bloody hell! Do people do that? No wonder there's such a cynical _iew of relationships.

Some do, yes."

Do you know I've reached this age and was naive enough to think that kind of behaviour was a left over music hall joke.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I don't see anything wrong with it myself. It's a job, same as any other. I also think greater efforts should be made to protect working girls. "

And boys

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By *ee Viante OP   Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"

I have often thought that a good business could be set up offering services such as humiliation etc. I know that such services already exist but I'm sure there's room for more. I don't think it's prostitution in the strict sense of the word but it's still earning money from somebody elses sexual needs and where does that begin and end?"

Indeed. That's partly to what my question refers. My example of a professional mummy to adult babies is similar.

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By *ee Viante OP   Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"I have no issues with it at all as long as the person is up front about it and uses the appropriate websites.

it comes in many guises within the swinging world and that spoils the scene."

Agreed

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"

I have often thought that a good business could be set up offering services such as humiliation etc. I know that such services already exist but I'm sure there's room for more. I don't think it's prostitution in the strict sense of the word but it's still earning money from somebody elses sexual needs and where does that begin and end?

Indeed. That's partly to what my question refers. My example of a professional mummy to adult babies is similar. "

Yes. How about glamour models, is that ok because they are once removed from the public?

Personally I don't think any of us who go about our sexual business freely and consensually are any better or worse than the next person, it's when coercion and force come into it that I object.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

Or withholding sex to get your own way.

Bloody hell! Do people do that? No wonder there's such a cynical _iew of relationships. "

It happens loads. Both ways. All of it.

OP- I don't see anything wrong with any form of prostitution if it's consensual. Nothing wrong with it at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

Or withholding sex to get your own way.

Bloody hell! Do people do that? No wonder there's such a cynical _iew of relationships.

It happens loads. Both ways. All of it.

OP- I don't see anything wrong with any form of prostitution if it's consensual. Nothing wrong with it at all."

Exactly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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There is no reason to look down on anyone who works in the sex industry unless they are forcing other people to take part in it unwillingly..pimps, traffickers etc. There are loads of people who give these services for free and people look down on them too...its a funny old game this sex stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From what I understand, many dommes offer services in dungeons, humiliation, torture etc

But do not have penetrative sex with the client. There is a fine line to be drawn

What is the difference between a stripper and a lap dancer, once there is physical contact it all changes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example..."

I agree as to me every wife or girlfriend is a type of prostitute. She has sex and gets bought things. Or wants something and puts out as it were

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

We have kids in their twenties, they often tell us about particular friends who have sex in night club toilets with random strangers on a regular basis. Is there a difference between those people and people who accept payment?

We've discussed this with them and challenged their _iews on these friends asking how it makes them any different as a person etc. hopefully making them think before condemning anyone solely on the basis of their sexual behaviour.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

I agree as to me every wife or girlfriend is a type of prostitute. She has sex and gets bought things. Or wants something and puts out as it were"

I don't. I have sex with my husband because I enjoy it. I haven't ever used sex to get my own way and neither has he.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

personally i have no problem with someone using the sex industry to earn a living. its the reasons behind why that often cause me to shake my head.

if its a free choice by a right minded individual, then all power to them, however if they are coerced or forced into it by unscrupulous individuals, then no, its not right, and never will be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

I agree as to me every wife or girlfriend is a type of prostitute. She has sex and gets bought things. Or wants something and puts out as it were"

What utter crap

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't see anything wrong with it myself. It's a job, same as any other. I also think greater efforts should be made to protect working girls. "

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By *udie_GirlTV/TS
over a year ago

Rochdale

I always have a wry smile when I see the word 'soliciting'. It makes me think of solicitors, and about just who is getting paid to be screwed by who!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Each to their own, but I think the best things in life are free and only ever pay for sex and companionship emotionally - and boy do I pay sometimes.

If someone is being paid to be intimate with me then they don't want me.

Would you pay someone to be your friend?

That's how I look at it, I'm probably on my own though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

I agree as to me every wife or girlfriend is a type of prostitute. She has sex and gets bought things. Or wants something and puts out as it were"

erm no actually. Always prided myself being financially independent. I fuck mrnotts as and when we both want to, with no other reason

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By *ee Viante OP   Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Each to their own, but I think the best things in life are free and only ever pay for sex and companionship emotionally - and boy do I pay sometimes.

If someone is being paid to be intimate with me then they don't want me.

Would you pay someone to be your friend?

That's how I look at it, I'm probably on my own though. "

Plenty of men (and some women) don't need to be wanted just to get their itch scratched.

That was clear from the thread by the guy looking for BBWs.

Apparently if you want to be wanted by people you have sex with then you are looking for a relationship.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't have an issue with prostitution and I think brothels should be legalised and regulated, it should be treated as a proper job with pension, holiday, employee rights etc ...

We're all selling our bodies in some way or another, either our strength, our minds or a mix of both.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

I agree as to me every wife or girlfriend is a type of prostitute. She has sex and gets bought things. Or wants something and puts out as it were"

ermm not everyone....I have my own money

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apparently if you want to be wanted by people you have sex with then you are looking for a relationship. "

Not always. When you have been hurt and can't face a relationships and putting your heart in someone elses hands you are still a human who wants to feel a connection.

I'm probably in the minority but I would like to feel desired for myself rather than for my wallet - which is usually empty incidentally, so it's just as well. lol

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By *udie_GirlTV/TS
over a year ago

Rochdale

Turn this on it's head for a moment. Who here would put out for reasons other than pleasure?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

I agree as to me every wife or girlfriend is a type of prostitute. She has sex and gets bought things. Or wants something and puts out as it were

What utter crap"

Ha ha, lol......

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Turn this on it's head for a moment. Who here would put out for reasons other than pleasure?"

I couldn't have full sex with someone unless I found them attractive which would narrow it down a bit but I could do humiliation and domination for pay I think.

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

They are some sex workers that help the physically disabled.

I doubt anyone would have an issue with that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

Or withholding sex to get your own way.

Bloody hell! Do people do that? No wonder there's such a cynical _iew of relationships.

Some do, yes."

Some people even marry for money!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a gag in a Family Guy episode that points out that the only difference between the legality of prostitution and pornography is a camera. "

Very good! I had never thought of it that way.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"They are some sex workers that help the physically disabled.

I doubt anyone would have an issue with that. "

I know plenty who would have an issue with people with any disability even having sex. An incident arose in this area recently and stirred up a hornets nest of the righteous indignant.

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By *udie_GirlTV/TS
over a year ago

Rochdale


"They are some sex workers that help the physically disabled.

I doubt anyone would have an issue with that.

I know plenty who would have an issue with people with any disability even having sex. An incident arose in this area recently and stirred up a hornets nest of the righteous indignant. "

The only issue I would have is if sex workers were charging disproportionate rates for such services.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have kids in their twenties, they often tell us about particular friends who have sex in night club toilets with random strangers on a regular basis. Is there a difference between those people and people who accept payment?

We've discussed this with them and challenged their _iews on these friends asking how it makes them any different as a person etc. hopefully making them think before condemning anyone solely on the basis of their sexual behaviour. "

Is there any difference between those and some versions of swinging?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is offering adult services on a pro basis, (i.e. definitely no penetrative sex etc), any different to prostitution in your opinion? If so, how?

Is either a reason to look down on anyone?

What's with the stigma attached to adult work?"

I think as the law stands there doesn't have to be penetrative sex to class an act as prostitution its money exchanged for sexual oriented services.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

I agree as to me every wife or girlfriend is a type of prostitute. She has sex and gets bought things. Or wants something and puts out as it were"

what about the ones who pay the bills and buy their own clothes? I paid my way in my marriage

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

I agree as to me every wife or girlfriend is a type of prostitute. She has sex and gets bought things. Or wants something and puts out as it were"

Really? I have rarely been bought anything when in a relationship as I have paid half of everything. It's only recently that I have even begun to accept being bought drinks or being paid into a club (where I have paid out on the petrol etc.). This has only come about because it was pointed out that I am insulting the gift giver and that I wouldn't like a gift thrown back in my face.

Back to the OP, I don't see any real difference at all. I must admit to thinking the title referred to social services though.

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By *ee Viante OP   Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

I agree as to me every wife or girlfriend is a type of prostitute. She has sex and gets bought things. Or wants something and puts out as it were

Really? I have rarely been bought anything when in a relationship as I have paid half of everything. It's only recently that I have even begun to accept being bought drinks or being paid into a club (where I have paid out on the petrol etc.). This has only come about because it was pointed out that I am insulting the gift giver and that I wouldn't like a gift thrown back in my face.

Back to the OP, I don't see any real difference at all. I must admit to thinking the title referred to social services though. "

I didn't want to be more specific because I wanted to see what people thought of as adult services, so I could ask about other services like professional adult baby mummys.

Some interesting responses so far.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"They are some sex workers that help the physically disabled.

I doubt anyone would have an issue with that. "

There was a whole hoo-ha about just this a couple of years ago.

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By *ity Slickers PartiesCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Milan, Italy

Who is selling and who is buying? You need to have something to sell first to get a good return

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By *ee Viante OP   Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Who is selling and who is buying? You need to have something to sell first to get a good return "

Nobody is selling anything on here. It's a discussion about definitions and attitudes, nothing more.

And I do hope you aren't suggesting I am not worth much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If my conscience allowed me to accept money I'd be rather well off by now

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia


"It is any worse then having sex with your partner so you can have new shoes or a car using those as an example...

I agree as to me every wife or girlfriend is a type of prostitute. She has sex and gets bought things. Or wants something and puts out as it were"
urm.... Totaly disagree! Many woman I know are financialy independant, solvent and have stable relationships! With heathy happy, sex lives... Myself included! We are not living in the 1940's!

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

Re the OP's question, i dont think there is much difference, weather paying for full sex, no sex , oral, an arse whipping or having ya adult nappy changed.. Business is business ... ( Consenting adults etc) The sex business will always be in demand. I wouldn't judge others and feel if there was no demand none of it would/ need be available .

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