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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Is it a choice or isn't it? Before you rush in with an answer. Have a read http://uk.news.yahoo.com/gay-gene-discovery-suggests-sexual-orientation-not-choice-085610185.html#7NnlFQL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i have often thought being gay has nothing to do with choice i really think that's something your born as, straight or gay, but i have thought that maybe bi is a choice, i enjoy bi play but i do not feel compelled to seek it out i do not feel in conflict in anyway i just enjoy a dabble now and again

hope that makes sense

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I love a gay gene, they are hip clinging and hang so well.

And once unzipped..

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I think we are all on a continuum, often determined by how much testosterone and oestrogen we were exposed to in the formative stages in the womb. Some are at the extreme ends of the that spectrum and most of us swim around a very large middle section.

Other factors, including curiosity, risk-taking, society and opportunity, then lead to us dabbling in bi-play and deciding whether we swim more towards one end of the spectrum or not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have always liked and found attractive both men and women - this wasn't a ' choice' I made its just who I am. There was no life defining moment when I went ' wow I fancy women too ' - its always been there.

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By *anSusieCouple
over a year ago

Midlothian

"I think we are all on a continuum, often determined by how much testosterone and oestrogen we were exposed to in the formative stages in the womb. Some are at the extreme ends of the that spectrum and most of us swim around a very large middle section.

Other factors, including curiosity, risk-taking, society and opportunity, then lead to us dabbling in bi-play and deciding whether we swim more towards one end of the spectrum or not.

That's a really good way of describing it!! I am definitely on the lesbian end of the spectrum

(Dan)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If anybody who identifies as straight believes that being gay is a "choice", then they should realise that it naturally follows from their argument that at some point in their lives they "chose" to be straight, and that it's an equal choice....

May I suggest that they then "choose" to be gay for a while, to see what it's like, and then "choose" to be straight again just to show us all how easy it is...???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we are all bisexual.. Funny profiles where the guy says 110% straight 'so don't even go there'

So straight you want to see another mans penis throbbing and erect in close proximity. Dude we're all a bit gay just have different levels of denial !

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"I think we are all bisexual.. Funny profiles where the guy says 110% straight 'so don't even go there'

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110% disagree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think we are all bisexual.. Funny profiles where the guy says 110% straight 'so don't even go there'

So straight you want to see another mans penis throbbing and erect in close proximity. Dude we're all a bit gay just have different levels of denial ! "

So basically because i insist that i am straight i'm in Denial ?

Thank you so much for that Therapy session the Cheque is in the post

Him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah but surely then there would only be lesbian porn.. Men like to watch other penises.

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By *adyH and GrissomCouple
over a year ago

Llantarnum

I am bisexual and have two sons - one is gay, one is straight - both brought up exactly the same so as far as I'm concerned it's how they are made not any kind of choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Come on if you like to see another man's penis there is some element of bisexuality to that. It's not a gay or straight absolute but different degrees.. Rylan 100% gay Tom cruise 40% Gay

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"I think we are all bisexual.. Funny profiles where the guy says 110% straight 'so don't even go there'

So straight you want to see another mans penis throbbing and erect in close proximity. Dude we're all a bit gay just have different levels of denial ! "

So why are you straight then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Come on if you like to see another man's penis there is some element of bisexuality to that. It's not a gay or straight absolute but different degrees.. Rylan 100% gay Tom cruise 40% Gay "

Sorry but you said every bloke is bisexual,I do not enjoy seeing other blokes bits but of course by your logic i am in denial

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because it freaks out the the 1100% straight couples to say mostly straight but open minded to bi fun in the right situation

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"Because it freaks out the the 1100% straight couples to say mostly straight but open minded to bi fun in the right situation "

So you are bisexual then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Because it freaks out the the 1100% straight couples to say mostly straight but open minded to bi fun in the right situation "

But you stated that every Male is Bisexual that is my point

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Come on if you like to see another man's penis there is some element of bisexuality to that. It's not a gay or straight absolute but different degrees.. Rylan 100% gay Tom cruise 40% Gay "

So where do you stand when you meet couples?

I'm straight, mostly, and describe myself as bi-selfish if asked. In the right sexual situation I don't mind bumping bits but I won't seek it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is this the latest "I like to suck cock but I am completely straight" threads

Or is it the latest "I am Bi, so I will inflict all my beliefs on the whole forum because we are all the same" threads?

Let me know, I will be back later

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

I will say I have had no inclination! Does that make me a liar?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"I will say I have had no inclination! Does that make me a liar?

No, just bisexual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Come on if you like to see another man's penis there is some element of bisexuality to that. It's not a gay or straight absolute but different degrees.. Rylan 100% gay Tom cruise 40% Gay

Sorry but you said every bloke is bisexual,I do not enjoy seeing other blokes bits but of course by your logic i am in denial "

No I said it is a sliding scale rather than a yes or no. The amount of 110% straight guys in a couple have later msg to say they are bi ! At least 80%

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I will say I have had no inclination! Does that make me a liar?

Obviously you are a Closet Gay because you protest

Him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Come on if you like to see another man's penis there is some element of bisexuality to that. It's not a gay or straight absolute but different degrees.. Rylan 100% gay Tom cruise 40% Gay

Sorry but you said every bloke is bisexual,I do not enjoy seeing other blokes bits but of course by your logic i am in denial

No I said it is a sliding scale rather than a yes or no. The amount of 110% straight guys in a couple have later msg to say they are bi ! At least 80%

There was no previous mention of a sliding scale, you said that you think all blokes are Bisexual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I most certainly am nit in denial !

My wife would love me to have a dabble with a guy , and on occasion I have tried .

Regrettably it does nothing for me , and although I am very comfortable around bi and gay guys , I am neither . I actually wish I was !

So perhaps there is a gay gene , perhaps not , but we are definately not all in denial .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think..hey relax ! Who cares people get to hung up on all this stuff.. Don't really give it much thought ! But in my experience with couples many couples who want to meet young men.. They guy later turns out to be bi and can't tell the missus !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Main thing why it is better with bi couples is there is none of the jealousy stuff because it is more open. Seems more like everyone is equal

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I think..hey relax ! Who cares people get to hung up on all this stuff.. Don't really give it much thought ! But in my experience with couples many couples who want to meet young men.. They guy later turns out to be bi and can't tell the missus ! "

But you meet with MF couples, which includes a man. Does that then make you bi?

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

I'm 97.325% straight.

That's barely enough room for a wank.

Although I always feel guilty after.

then I look in the mirror,and think,

Hmmmm I so definitely would.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Having seen the dress sense... No, there really are straight men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But you meet with MF couples, which includes a man. Does that then make you bi?

He'll yes bi as as a rampant sea horse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm 97.325% straight.

That's barely enough room for a wank.

Although I always feel guilty after.

then I look in the mirror,and think,

Hmmmm I so definitely would.

As long as you still respect yourself in the morning

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

But you meet with MF couples, which includes a man. Does that then make you bi?

He'll yes bi as as a rampant sea horse"

That isn't entirely clear though, is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But you meet with MF couples, which includes a man. Does that then make you bi?

He'll yes bi as as a rampant sea horse

That isn't entirely clear though, is it?

Yes sea horses are bisexual.. Bi as rampant sea horse therefore declares inclination

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

But you meet with MF couples, which includes a man. Does that then make you bi?

He'll yes bi as as a rampant sea horse

That isn't entirely clear though, is it?

Yes sea horses are bisexual.. Bi as rampant sea horse therefore declares inclination "

I understand your inclination I merely comment that you "appear" to be straight. It doesn't follow that other people who say they are straight will share your "straight" inclinations.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

But you meet with MF couples, which includes a man. Does that then make you bi?

He'll yes bi as as a rampant sea horse"

if its nothing to get hung up on then why have str8 on your profile..?

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By *eryBigGirlWoman
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

But you meet with MF couples, which includes a man. Does that then make you bi?

He'll yes bi as as a rampant sea horse

if its nothing to get hung up on then why have str8 on your profile..?"

Although the veri sort of gives the game away

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

But you meet with MF couples, which includes a man. Does that then make you bi?

He'll yes bi as as a rampant sea horse

if its nothing to get hung up on then why have str8 on your profile..?

Although the veri sort of gives the game away

did'nt look that far..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But you meet with MF couples, which includes a man. Does that then make you bi?

He'll yes bi as as a rampant sea horse"

I wouldn't call Seahorses 'rampant', - rather, 'rocking'!!

......entertaining thread, though!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But you meet with MF couples, which includes a man. Does that then make you bi?

He'll yes bi as as a rampant sea horse"

I wouldn't call Seahorses 'rampant', - rather, 'rocking'!!

......entertaining thread, though!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For someone who doesn't really give it much thought you seem to have an awful lot to say on the subject and I don't know what anyone else thinks but you've confused the hell out of me!!

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"I'm 97.325% straight.

That's barely enough room for a wank.

Although I always feel guilty after.

then I look in the mirror,and think,

Hmmmm I so definitely would.

As long as you still respect yourself in the morning "

Lol

Even in the morning,

I'm so definitely woulding again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call me George Michael but i dont think Seahorses are actually Bisexual, the Male has a pouch to carry the young but but that doesnt make them shirtlifters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm 97.325% straight.

That's barely enough room for a wank.

Although I always feel guilty after.

then I look in the mirror,and think,

Hmmmm I so definitely would.

As long as you still respect yourself in the morning

Lol

Even in the morning,

I'm so definitely woulding again.

Woulding or Wooding

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Call me George Michael but i dont think Seahorses are actually Bisexual, the Male has a pouch to carry the young but but that doesnt make them shirtlifters

Do they wear shirts?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I know lots of those straight bisexuals.... Will suck a knob when there is a lady in the room.

Then you see them being rumped silly in the gay sauna and the nearest thing to a pussy, are the kItten mules I am wearing to save getting athletes foot.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"I'm 97.325% straight.

That's barely enough room for a wank.

Although I always feel guilty after.

then I look in the mirror,and think,

Hmmmm I so definitely would.

As long as you still respect yourself in the morning

Lol

Even in the morning,

I'm so definitely woulding again.

Woulding or Wooding

Woulding whilst wooding,

it's all good.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Call me George Michael but i dont think Seahorses are actually Bisexual, the Male has a pouch to carry the young but but that doesnt make them shirtlifters

Do they wear shirts?"

Well their not gonna go round naked are they, That would be just Gay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know lots of those straight bisexuals.... Will suck a knob when there is a lady in the room.

Then you see them being rumped silly in the gay sauna and the nearest thing to a pussy, are the kItten mules I am wearing to save getting athletes foot.

You should be careful in those kitten heels on a wet floor View!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Call me George Michael but i dont think Seahorses are actually Bisexual, the Male has a pouch to carry the young but but that doesnt make them shirtlifters

Do they wear shirts?

Well their not gonna go round naked are they, That would be just Gay

Got it. Shirts = bi and naked = gay.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

You should be careful in those kitten heels on a wet floor View!"

I am never upright long

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its not a choice is it. Like someone else said, otherwise it would be a choice to be straight and everyone would have a level of uncertainty about their sexuality.

It's a prejudiced _iew that someone chooses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Call me George Michael but i dont think Seahorses are actually Bisexual, the Male has a pouch to carry the young but but that doesnt make them shirtlifters

Do they wear shirts?

Well their not gonna go round naked are they, That would be just Gay

Got it. Shirts = bi and naked = gay."

Sea horse are bisexual

"Fidelity tests suggest that not only are they shameless flirts but most are also bisexual.

Scientists who looked at their sex habits found that, out of 3,168 encounters, 37 per cent were same-sex liaisons."

It's science. Both men and wine wear shirts.. What is the significand of raising them ? Both contain nipples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Call me George Michael but i dont think Seahorses are actually Bisexual, the Male has a pouch to carry the young but but that doesnt make them shirtlifters

Do they wear shirts?

Well their not gonna go round naked are they, That would be just Gay

Got it. Shirts = bi and naked = gay.

Sea horse are bisexual

"Fidelity tests suggest that not only are they shameless flirts but most are also bisexual.

Scientists who looked at their sex habits found that, out of 3,168 encounters, 37 per cent were same-sex liaisons."

It's science. Both men and wine wear shirts.. What is the significand of raising them ? Both contain nipples "

You may well be correct,i just cant get my head around how a fish that is monogamous during the breeding season and the female releases her eggs into the males pouch to be fertilized by the males sperm which is released into the water. IE: no insertion of the penis can be termed bisexual.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

The "straight" male half of a couple used to come and see me on a Saturday morning, he told his missus he was at work.

Strangely enough, he never showed the veri I left him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know i've enjoyed the occasional cock for sometime. so Do i have this gene. how does this explain bisexuality

Oh and what if this genetic engineering was in the hands of those who thought the likes of me were inhuman. russian president or the president of zimbabwe say. Would they eliminate me at birth or just abolish my genes. The discovery of this gene, if true, allows me to say i told you so, well at least half way. But unfortunately we do not live in an ideal world. So i'm pleased but scared. thoughts x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Call me George Michael but i dont think Seahorses are actually Bisexual, the Male has a pouch to carry the young but but that doesnt make them shirtlifters

Do they wear shirts?

Well their not gonna go round naked are they, That would be just Gay

Got it. Shirts = bi and naked = gay.

Sea horse are bisexual

"Fidelity tests suggest that not only are they shameless flirts but most are also bisexual.

Scientists who looked at their sex habits found that, out of 3,168 encounters, 37 per cent were same-sex liaisons."

It's science. Both men and wine wear shirts.. What is the significand of raising them ? Both contain nipples "

Since when did 37% of anything count as most, its not even half?!?!

Wine wears shirts and has nipples - I think you're drinking too much of it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Call me George Michael but i dont think Seahorses are actually Bisexual, the Male has a pouch to carry the young but but that doesnt make them shirtlifters

Do they wear shirts?

Well their not gonna go round naked are they, That would be just Gay

Got it. Shirts = bi and naked = gay.

Sea horse are bisexual

"Fidelity tests suggest that not only are they shameless flirts but most are also bisexual.

Scientists who looked at their sex habits found that, out of 3,168 encounters, 37 per cent were same-sex liaisons."

It's science. Both men and wine wear shirts.. What is the significand of raising them ? Both contain nipples

Since when did 37% of anything count as most, its not even half?!?!

Wine wears shirts and has nipples - I think you're drinking too much of it!"
lol at being pissed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All men are bisexual because they like to watch porn involving men and women?

I like to watch men fucking women in porn - I always thought that made me heterosexual but obviously I must be a closet bi.

So somebody tell me, dogs on occasion hump people's legs - what does that make dogs?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

What the absolute fuck?

My head is spinning.

All men are bisexual unless they live in a cave because they are repelled by the sight of another man. Is that about the size of it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What the absolute fuck?

My head is spinning.

All men are bisexual unless they live in a cave because they are repelled by the sight of another man. Is that about the size of it?

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who is confused! Maybe it would make more sense if we drank more nipple wine?!

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

Sexuality definitions,

deny all for the moment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What the absolute fuck?

My head is spinning.

All men are bisexual unless they live in a cave because they are repelled by the sight of another man. Is that about the size of it?

No not repelled by the site of another man but absolutely aroused bi it - pardon the pun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All men are bisexual because they like to watch porn involving men and women?

I like to watch men fucking women in porn - I always thought that made me heterosexual but obviously I must be a closet bi.

So somebody tell me, dogs on occasion hump people's legs - what does that make dogs?"

Dogs are like most men! Bi !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Got to love causing a bit of chaos in the forum, it attracts attention and sexy times follow !

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I don't know the answer, and the latest research isn't published yet, it's just an advance notice of it that is out.

Sexual orientation is not a choice though appears to have some fluidity, and can alter over time. The choice we have is whether we explore something, what sex we have and as others say, the long standing continuum between gay and straight seems true. There are gay, bisexual and straight people's orientations, but each person will not be exactly the same as the others, in their category. I guess there is the most difference within the bisexual part of the continuum, with varying degrees of romantic and/or sexual interest in both sexes.

It's likely genetic, as most people seem to have a grasp fairly early in their lives over their probable orientation. And it seems to have been around for thousands of years, albeit with some cultures more accepting or not of sexuality that isn't exclusively straight.

As with many genetic traits, some of them are activated by combinations of genetic material, not just a simple element of one gene. Plus, some genetic coding needs circumstances to be right, to 'activate' it. This can also happen with diseases, where otherwise traits are latent, without the right environment.

Whether it's early hormones that influence it - seems plausible and likely, based on research, and/or other things that happen, we don't know.

What we don't want are accurate tests for gayness etc, as that could mean that some homophobic cultures terminate people's lives.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And then we have circumstance .. Many 110% straight guys have homosexual relationships in prison but on the outside world do not continue with gay sexual encounters.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I can't get past the apparent claim that if people enjoy watching heterosexual porn then they must be bi.

So straight women would only watch gay porn and straight men would only watch lesbian porn?

I've never heard so much crap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Call me George Michael but i dont think Seahorses are actually Bisexual, the Male has a pouch to carry the young but but that doesnt make them shirtlifters

Is it okay to use abusive words aimed at gay men if you put a little embarrassed smiley after it? Nice!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Call me George Michael but i dont think Seahorses are actually Bisexual, the Male has a pouch to carry the young but but that doesnt make them shirtlifters

Is it okay to use abusive words aimed at gay men if you put a little embarrassed smiley after it? Nice! "
thought we were talking about seahorses?

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

"Call me George Michael but i dont think Seahorses are actually Bisexual, the Male has a pouch to carry the young but but that doesnt make them shirtlifters

Is it okay to use abusive words aimed at gay men if you put a little embarrassed smiley after it? Nice! thought we were talking about seahorses?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Call me George Michael but i dont think Seahorses are actually Bisexual, the Male has a pouch to carry the young but but that doesnt make them shirtlifters

Is it okay to use abusive words aimed at gay men if you put a little embarrassed smiley after it? Nice! "

Where is the Abusive word ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Call me George Michael but i dont think Seahorses are actually Bisexual, the Male has a pouch to carry the young but but that doesnt make them shirtlifters

Is it okay to use abusive words aimed at gay men if you put a little embarrassed smiley after it? Nice!

Where is the Abusive word ?"

Yeah ... where is the abusive word ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Call me George Michael but i dont think Seahorses are actually Bisexual, the Male has a pouch to carry the young but but that doesnt make them shirtlifters

Is it okay to use abusive words aimed at gay men if you put a little embarrassed smiley after it? Nice!

Where is the Abusive word ?

Yeah ... where is the abusive word ?

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you can't call George Michael a seahorse, it's in his contract

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Call me George Michael but i dont think Seahorses are actually Bisexual, the Male has a pouch to carry the young but but that doesnt make them shirtlifters

Is it okay to use abusive words aimed at gay men if you put a little embarrassed smiley after it? Nice!

Where is the Abusive word ?

Yeah ... where is the abusive word ?

you can't call George Michael a seahorse, it's in his contract"

But he is ive seen his Pouch

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