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By *ce Winger OP   Man
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

This afternoon I witnessed a homeless person taking a leak in a secluded location. He was subsequently accosted by our boys in blue. He was polite and sincere and not arrested.

It costs 20p to enter most of our Public toilets in Derby.

Given that he had no money, would he have been better off begging for the said 20p and risking arrest for that or just taking his chances

Any dialemmas are welcome to be posted here

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

what a shame, poor soul.

hope he is ok

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

maybe he did it on purpose to get arrested and spend some time in the dry?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I'm glad he wasn't arrested, I can't imagine living a life where even basic needs are accompanied by the fear of arrest.

Neither of the two options you put forward are better than the other in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

20p just to have a wee, 20p is a lot of money to a homeless person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

id have risked pee'ing in public..

least its easier for men to do

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

oh, just read he wasnt arrested

OP, did you offer him 20p afterwards for next time he is caught short?

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

That is sad....where is he meant to go if he is homeless

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"dialemma"

What's her number?

Sorry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm bursting here. Anybody got 20p?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On the subject of beggars. I came across a very pale looking one at Kings cross station before Christmas. I looked in my purse and only had a few pence in change so I gave him my last tenner. It was money I had for travel for the rest of the week. I walked

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By *ce Winger OP   Man
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"maybe he did it on purpose to get arrested and spend some time in the dry?"

It's ok View he's fine, I have seen him plenty of times, he's a cheeky chappy lol

Evie, of course he did it on purpose, why else would you need to go to the toilet

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"maybe he did it on purpose to get arrested and spend some time in the dry?

It's ok View he's fine, I have seen him plenty of times, he's a cheeky chappy lol

Evie, of course he did it on purpose, why else would you need to go to the toilet "

silly sod, you know what i meant!!!

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By *issBehavingxxWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I'm bursting here. Anybody got 20p?"

Only 5p in change.. but that'll get you started

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Access to toilets is actually a big issue in this country when out and about. Access to anything when you are homeless is a whole different ball game.

My dilemmas are much easier to handle.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"maybe he did it on purpose to get arrested and spend some time in the dry?

It's ok View he's fine, I have seen him plenty of times, he's a cheeky chappy lol

Evie, of course he did it on purpose, why else would you need to go to the toilet "

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By *ce Winger OP   Man
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"oh, just read he wasnt arrested

OP, did you offer him 20p afterwards for next time he is caught short?"

No I didn't, but I thought about it afterwards

as Ruggers has said, it's a sad indictment of our society that makes us have to come to these judgments

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This afternoon I witnessed a homeless person taking a leak in a secluded location. He was subsequently accosted by our boys in blue. He was polite and sincere and not arrested.

It costs 20p to enter most of our Public toilets in Derby.

Given that he had no money, would he have been better off begging for the said 20p and risking arrest for that or just taking his chances

Any dialemmas are welcome to be posted here "

In a secluded location done discretely shouldn't, be a problem. If they're sensible about it it shouldn't cause a problem, free council toilets would be a better solution. His only legal option would have been to piss himself... I haven't actually checked whether that's legal or not, but bar Scotland it's illegal to be homeless in this country, nothing like offering a helping hand when someone is on the bones of there arse. 30 years ago many of these people would have been in asylums.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol


" 30 years ago many of these people would have been in asylums. "

really ....in the mid 80's ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"dialemma

What's her number?

Sorry "

Just what I was thinking...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" 30 years ago many of these people would have been in asylums.

really ....in the mid 80's ??"

I'm fairly sure that's when the asylums were still shutting. Google it, there's also loads of urban exploration sites with loads of pictures of them. Some, very few, are open. Broadmoor is a high security asylum.

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By *entfootloverMan
over a year ago

Sevenoaks


"Access to toilets is actually a big issue in this country when out and about. Access to anything when you are homeless is a whole different ball game."

As a foreigner, that was one of the things I noticed in the big cities. I guess it's all part of the paranoia stemming from IRA bombing in the past (ditto for rubbish bins).

Thing is, if the poor soul had begged for 20p to use the loo (which he could have done for all we know), what are the chances that nobody believed him and gave him nothing?

I'm glad the boys in blue showed some common sense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think id be pretty certain before I had a quck pee in public that id be completely secluded and no police were around

He did'nt do a good job of checking how secluded it was,not only did he have the OP watching him but 2 policemen as well

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By *ce Winger OP   Man
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"I haven't actually checked whether that's legal or not, but bar Scotland it's illegal to be homeless in this country"

What! I never knew that. So the government has deemed it illegal to be homeless, but have no obligation to put a roof over your head. The mind boggles

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I haven't actually checked whether that's legal or not, but bar Scotland it's illegal to be homeless in this country

What! I never knew that. So the government has deemed it illegal to be homeless, but have no obligation to put a roof over your head. The mind boggles "

Vagrancy act 1824, they were arresting people in London in the 1990's and recently police tried to charge 3 people under it for taking food out of a supermarket skip.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Could he not have popped into a fast food chain or department store and used their free toilets? Sorry regardless of his situation I don't agree he be urinating in the street, it doesn't make for a pleasant environment for anyone when the streets are turned into a open air toilet.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent


"Could he not have popped into a fast food chain or department store and used their free toilets? Sorry regardless of his situation I don't agree he be urinating in the street, it doesn't make for a pleasant environment for anyone when the streets are turned into a open air toilet.

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Lots of fast food places and department stores charge to get into the loo now as well, I've seen a lot of it in London and Canterbury also, your can actually go and get a token to get in for free if you ask at the counter I think a lot of it is to stop drug users etc from going in them. (Well that's what I was told by the staff anyway)

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By *ce Winger OP   Man
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"Could he not have popped into a fast food chain or department store and used their free toilets? Sorry regardless of his situation I don't agree he be urinating in the street, it doesn't make for a pleasant environment for anyone when the streets are turned into a open air toilet.

"

Possibly so, had there been one in the immediate vicinity I suppose, but given that this was a short cut through to an area with non of these facilities available, I think he took the best option available to him

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

It's a joke

Only 2 weeks ago 3 homeless guys were arrested for taking some food mainly cheese tomatoes and mushrooms from a supermarket skip that were destined for the landfill site

They were in court under the 1824 vagrancy act !

I mean come on

Well at least we are all in it together !

I mean our thieving MP's are getting custody too aren't they ?

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

ayrshire

ask the dalai lama

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When you gotta go you gotta go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" ask the dalai lama "

Easier to dial Emma...

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By *ce Winger OP   Man
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


" ask the dalai lama

Easier to dial Emma..."

Emma is having an enema

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" ask the dalai lama

Easier to dial Emma...

Emma is having an enema "

That'll help her get to the bottom of the dilemma...

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By *ScotsmanMan
over a year ago

ayrshire

dilemma ? dial emma? dali lama?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just think though, if he'd been a skinny marathon runner he could've pissed in the street without any bother.

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire


"That is sad....where is he meant to go if he is homeless "

in the policemans helmet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That is sad....where is he meant to go if he is homeless

in the policemans helmet?"

Only pregnant women...

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire


"That is sad....where is he meant to go if he is homeless

in the policemans helmet?

Only pregnant women..."

a mere technicality

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