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"Ok. They should be loved, cared for, etc. But is there such a thing as overkill, where it seems they like them more than people? " There are twice as many animals as people in my house | |||
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"I've only ever had two pets (other than numerous fish), a Syrian hamster named Densil, and a beautiful cat called Apollo/PollyPops/My little price. As far as I was concerned they were part of the family. I'm not a huge cat fan, but after moving in with my flatmate and her cat, I fell in love with Apollo! He was the best cat ever!! When we moved and had to re-home him, I was devastated, I couldn't say goodbye to him, I was so upset, that was a year and a half ago, and I still miss him terribly. Animals have personalities too, and I think it's perfectly normal (and lovely) when a pet is treated as any other member of the family. (within reason of course)" Within reason? When does it start for it to get weird, how does the owner have to act? | |||
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"I've only ever had two pets (other than numerous fish), a Syrian hamster named Densil, and a beautiful cat called Apollo/PollyPops/My little price. As far as I was concerned they were part of the family. I'm not a huge cat fan, but after moving in with my flatmate and her cat, I fell in love with Apollo! He was the best cat ever!! When we moved and had to re-home him, I was devastated, I couldn't say goodbye to him, I was so upset, that was a year and a half ago, and I still miss him terribly. Animals have personalities too, and I think it's perfectly normal (and lovely) when a pet is treated as any other member of the family. (within reason of course) Within reason? When does it start for it to get weird, how does the owner have to act? " I wouldn't let my dog eat at the table, for example, don't mind the odd cute doggy coat, but a full on outfit's going a little OTT to me, things like that... | |||
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"Ok. They should be loved, cared for, etc. But is there such a thing as overkill, where it seems they like them more than people? " when you look at the antics of some of our fellow humans, the way some treat other humans, animals, the environment etc its not hard to see that some humans find the company of pets preferable.. | |||
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"I've only ever had two pets (other than numerous fish), a Syrian hamster named Densil, and a beautiful cat called Apollo/PollyPops/My little price. As far as I was concerned they were part of the family. I'm not a huge cat fan, but after moving in with my flatmate and her cat, I fell in love with Apollo! He was the best cat ever!! When we moved and had to re-home him, I was devastated, I couldn't say goodbye to him, I was so upset, that was a year and a half ago, and I still miss him terribly. Animals have personalities too, and I think it's perfectly normal (and lovely) when a pet is treated as any other member of the family. (within reason of course) Within reason? When does it start for it to get weird, how does the owner have to act? I wouldn't let my dog eat at the table, for example, don't mind the odd cute doggy coat, but a full on outfit's going a little OTT to me, things like that..." I wasn't thinking of the pet itself. I meant a person to love their pet so much. No "bad" remark about them or every pet/animal/person doesn't even come close. | |||
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"while it is true, I'm basically going to say...it can be justified!- most animals are incapable of deception, they dont have many motives to hurt someone.. some people dont deserve the respect/affection/love thats given to an animal...might sound like its a nasty thing to say-but we arent exactly a species that can be entirely proud of some of our bahaviours and actions If someone intends to hurt my pet(s), they are hurting me, if I fly into a rage and end up injuring them..I will justify it as they have harmed something I love, they can take those consequences! so short answer, yes my cat means more to me than some people ever will..and I dont really care if thats right or wrong " Well said that man! | |||
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"while it is true, I'm basically going to say...it can be justified!- most animals are incapable of deception, they dont have many motives to hurt someone.. some people dont deserve the respect/affection/love thats given to an animal...might sound like its a nasty thing to say-but we arent exactly a species that can be entirely proud of some of our bahaviours and actions If someone intends to hurt my pet(s), they are hurting me, if I fly into a rage and end up injuring them..I will justify it as they have harmed something I love, they can take those consequences! so short answer, yes my cat means more to me than some people ever will..and I dont really care if thats right or wrong Well said that man!" More than a loved one. Like your partner or something? | |||
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"I've only ever had two pets (other than numerous fish), a Syrian hamster named Densil, and a beautiful cat called Apollo/PollyPops/My little price. As far as I was concerned they were part of the family. I'm not a huge cat fan, but after moving in with my flatmate and her cat, I fell in love with Apollo! He was the best cat ever!! When we moved and had to re-home him, I was devastated, I couldn't say goodbye to him, I was so upset, that was a year and a half ago, and I still miss him terribly. Animals have personalities too, and I think it's perfectly normal (and lovely) when a pet is treated as any other member of the family. (within reason of course) Within reason? When does it start for it to get weird, how does the owner have to act? I wouldn't let my dog eat at the table, for example, don't mind the odd cute doggy coat, but a full on outfit's going a little OTT to me, things like that... I wasn't thinking of the pet itself. I meant a person to love their pet so much. No "bad" remark about them or every pet/animal/person doesn't even come close. " I don't think you can love your pet 'too much'...In my eyes, no other cat would come close to how amazing mine was, he was the best, and I loved him, just as much as I love some of my friends. Pets are companions, nothing wrong with truly loving your pet in my view! | |||
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"I've only ever had two pets (other than numerous fish), a Syrian hamster named Densil, and a beautiful cat called Apollo/PollyPops/My little price. As far as I was concerned they were part of the family. I'm not a huge cat fan, but after moving in with my flatmate and her cat, I fell in love with Apollo! He was the best cat ever!! When we moved and had to re-home him, I was devastated, I couldn't say goodbye to him, I was so upset, that was a year and a half ago, and I still miss him terribly. Animals have personalities too, and I think it's perfectly normal (and lovely) when a pet is treated as any other member of the family. (within reason of course) Within reason? When does it start for it to get weird, how does the owner have to act? I wouldn't let my dog eat at the table, for example, don't mind the odd cute doggy coat, but a full on outfit's going a little OTT to me, things like that... I wasn't thinking of the pet itself. I meant a person to love their pet so much. No "bad" remark about them or every pet/animal/person doesn't even come close. " There are many types of love, I respect all my animals, but couldn't say I love them, they are a big part of my life, it would be easy to say my animals love me, but its about survival, not love, they " love " whoever feeds them and gives them attention. | |||
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"I've only ever had two pets (other than numerous fish), a Syrian hamster named Densil, and a beautiful cat called Apollo/PollyPops/My little price. As far as I was concerned they were part of the family. I'm not a huge cat fan, but after moving in with my flatmate and her cat, I fell in love with Apollo! He was the best cat ever!! When we moved and had to re-home him, I was devastated, I couldn't say goodbye to him, I was so upset, that was a year and a half ago, and I still miss him terribly. Animals have personalities too, and I think it's perfectly normal (and lovely) when a pet is treated as any other member of the family. (within reason of course) Within reason? When does it start for it to get weird, how does the owner have to act? I wouldn't let my dog eat at the table, for example, don't mind the odd cute doggy coat, but a full on outfit's going a little OTT to me, things like that... I wasn't thinking of the pet itself. I meant a person to love their pet so much. No "bad" remark about them or every pet/animal/person doesn't even come close. I don't think you can love your pet 'too much'...In my eyes, no other cat would come close to how amazing mine was, he was the best, and I loved him, just as much as I love some of my friends. Pets are companions, nothing wrong with truly loving your pet in my view!" So no such thing as an obsession then? I love mine too, cuddle my cat, etc. Would I class my cat more important than mates or other members of my family? No I wouldn't. Would it break my heart when she dies? Of course it will. I was trying to state though that some people insist their pet is the only animal in this world and the rest of them are horrible for whatever reason. | |||
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"I've only ever had two pets (other than numerous fish), a Syrian hamster named Densil, and a beautiful cat called Apollo/PollyPops/My little price. As far as I was concerned they were part of the family. I'm not a huge cat fan, but after moving in with my flatmate and her cat, I fell in love with Apollo! He was the best cat ever!! When we moved and had to re-home him, I was devastated, I couldn't say goodbye to him, I was so upset, that was a year and a half ago, and I still miss him terribly. Animals have personalities too, and I think it's perfectly normal (and lovely) when a pet is treated as any other member of the family. (within reason of course) Within reason? When does it start for it to get weird, how does the owner have to act? I wouldn't let my dog eat at the table, for example, don't mind the odd cute doggy coat, but a full on outfit's going a little OTT to me, things like that... I wasn't thinking of the pet itself. I meant a person to love their pet so much. No "bad" remark about them or every pet/animal/person doesn't even come close. I don't think you can love your pet 'too much'...In my eyes, no other cat would come close to how amazing mine was, he was the best, and I loved him, just as much as I love some of my friends. Pets are companions, nothing wrong with truly loving your pet in my view! So no such thing as an obsession then? I love mine too, cuddle my cat, etc. Would I class my cat more important than mates or other members of my family? No I wouldn't. Would it break my heart when she dies? Of course it will. I was trying to state though that some people insist their pet is the only animal in this world and the rest of them are horrible for whatever reason." Of course you can be obsessed, but that's completely different than loving your pet.... | |||
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"I've only ever had two pets (other than numerous fish), a Syrian hamster named Densil, and a beautiful cat called Apollo/PollyPops/My little price. As far as I was concerned they were part of the family. I'm not a huge cat fan, but after moving in with my flatmate and her cat, I fell in love with Apollo! He was the best cat ever!! When we moved and had to re-home him, I was devastated, I couldn't say goodbye to him, I was so upset, that was a year and a half ago, and I still miss him terribly. Animals have personalities too, and I think it's perfectly normal (and lovely) when a pet is treated as any other member of the family. (within reason of course) Within reason? When does it start for it to get weird, how does the owner have to act? I wouldn't let my dog eat at the table, for example, don't mind the odd cute doggy coat, but a full on outfit's going a little OTT to me, things like that... I wasn't thinking of the pet itself. I meant a person to love their pet so much. No "bad" remark about them or every pet/animal/person doesn't even come close. but its about survival, not love, they " love " whoever feeds them and gives them attention." I disagree. Some animals are like that. Dogs aren't. Cats are like that though. Saying that. I have seen my cat come for random cuddles and won't leave me alone and that's when I haven't fed her and someone else has. | |||
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"I've only ever had two pets (other than numerous fish), a Syrian hamster named Densil, and a beautiful cat called Apollo/PollyPops/My little price. As far as I was concerned they were part of the family. I'm not a huge cat fan, but after moving in with my flatmate and her cat, I fell in love with Apollo! He was the best cat ever!! When we moved and had to re-home him, I was devastated, I couldn't say goodbye to him, I was so upset, that was a year and a half ago, and I still miss him terribly. Animals have personalities too, and I think it's perfectly normal (and lovely) when a pet is treated as any other member of the family. (within reason of course) Within reason? When does it start for it to get weird, how does the owner have to act? I wouldn't let my dog eat at the table, for example, don't mind the odd cute doggy coat, but a full on outfit's going a little OTT to me, things like that... I wasn't thinking of the pet itself. I meant a person to love their pet so much. No "bad" remark about them or every pet/animal/person doesn't even come close. There are many types of love, I respect all my animals, but couldn't say I love them, they are a big part of my life, it would be easy to say my animals love me, but its about survival, not love, they " love " whoever feeds them and gives them attention." I disagree. My male cat got depressed when fostered by my ex- for a while because I couldn't have them with me. He was absolutely delighted when I could have him back. He missed me really badly. | |||
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"Some people favour animals over humans cos animals don't tell you when you're being an arsehole." I like that | |||
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"I've only ever had two pets (other than numerous fish), a Syrian hamster named Densil, and a beautiful cat called Apollo/PollyPops/My little price. As far as I was concerned they were part of the family. I'm not a huge cat fan, but after moving in with my flatmate and her cat, I fell in love with Apollo! He was the best cat ever!! When we moved and had to re-home him, I was devastated, I couldn't say goodbye to him, I was so upset, that was a year and a half ago, and I still miss him terribly. Animals have personalities too, and I think it's perfectly normal (and lovely) when a pet is treated as any other member of the family. (within reason of course) Within reason? When does it start for it to get weird, how does the owner have to act? I wouldn't let my dog eat at the table, for example, don't mind the odd cute doggy coat, but a full on outfit's going a little OTT to me, things like that... I wasn't thinking of the pet itself. I meant a person to love their pet so much. No "bad" remark about them or every pet/animal/person doesn't even come close. There are many types of love, I respect all my animals, but couldn't say I love them, they are a big part of my life, it would be easy to say my animals love me, but its about survival, not love, they " love " whoever feeds them and gives them attention. I disagree. My male cat got depressed when fostered by my ex- for a while because I couldn't have them with me. He was absolutely delighted when I could have him back. He missed me really badly." LOL, he is your x for a reason, if he was with you I imagine you would get depressed! we tend to put human characteristics onto pets, they have only 4 needs, food, water, shelter and reproduction, except for 4 species, swans, elephants, whales and dolphins, ( I am sure ive missed some ) | |||
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"At the end of a day a pet is a pet and on a totally different level to a human you can't rationally compare the two. The reality for most balanced individuals a human will always come first as you can fully interact with them and its a balanced 2 way relationship There are people who substitute pets for people and in general they are the loaners or people who struggle with a give take relationship not like the cat lady in the Simpsons but getting that way. Rationaly I get people would defend their pets its a natural action although physically attacking another human is irrational and not an acceptable response. After all they are a pet an animal and society the law and religious ideology see humans as far more important than an animal. " a preplanned attack on anyone isnt acceptable..thats why I dont believe in vengeance.However, lets say some cruel idiot tries to put a firework up my cats arse I wont really care what the law says..they will be stopped before they can do anything | |||
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"I've only ever had two pets (other than numerous fish), a Syrian hamster named Densil, and a beautiful cat called Apollo/PollyPops/My little price. As far as I was concerned they were part of the family. I'm not a huge cat fan, but after moving in with my flatmate and her cat, I fell in love with Apollo! He was the best cat ever!! When we moved and had to re-home him, I was devastated, I couldn't say goodbye to him, I was so upset, that was a year and a half ago, and I still miss him terribly. Animals have personalities too, and I think it's perfectly normal (and lovely) when a pet is treated as any other member of the family. (within reason of course) Within reason? When does it start for it to get weird, how does the owner have to act? I wouldn't let my dog eat at the table, for example, don't mind the odd cute doggy coat, but a full on outfit's going a little OTT to me, things like that... I wasn't thinking of the pet itself. I meant a person to love their pet so much. No "bad" remark about them or every pet/animal/person doesn't even come close. There are many types of love, I respect all my animals, but couldn't say I love them, they are a big part of my life, it would be easy to say my animals love me, but its about survival, not love, they " love " whoever feeds them and gives them attention. I disagree. My male cat got depressed when fostered by my ex- for a while because I couldn't have them with me. He was absolutely delighted when I could have him back. He missed me really badly. LOL, he is your x for a reason, if he was with you I imagine you would get depressed! we tend to put human characteristics onto pets, they have only 4 needs, food, water, shelter and reproduction, except for 4 species, swans, elephants, whales and dolphins, ( I am sure ive missed some )" I'm pretty sure my male cat would disagree with you. The female cat not so much, but she'd definitely say "servants" needs to be added to the list of essentials. They are pedigrees though and their breed isn't bred for cunning or self-sufficiently. They wouldn't survive for long if left to fend for themselves. | |||
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"while it is true, I'm basically going to say...it can be justified!- most animals are incapable of deception, they dont have many motives to hurt someone.. some people dont deserve the respect/affection/love thats given to an animal...might sound like its a nasty thing to say-but we arent exactly a species that can be entirely proud of some of our bahaviours and actions If someone intends to hurt my pet(s), they are hurting me, if I fly into a rage and end up injuring them..I will justify it as they have harmed something I love, they can take those consequences! so short answer, yes my cat means more to me than some people ever will..and I dont really care if thats right or wrong Well said that man! More than a loved one. Like your partner or something? " Yes probably | |||
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"while it is true, I'm basically going to say...it can be justified!- most animals are incapable of deception, they dont have many motives to hurt someone.. some people dont deserve the respect/affection/love thats given to an animal...might sound like its a nasty thing to say-but we arent exactly a species that can be entirely proud of some of our bahaviours and actions If someone intends to hurt my pet(s), they are hurting me, if I fly into a rage and end up injuring them..I will justify it as they have harmed something I love, they can take those consequences! so short answer, yes my cat means more to me than some people ever will..and I dont really care if thats right or wrong " | |||
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