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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Thanks to UKIP, we now know that the recent floods had nothing to do with the jet stream but were caused by gay people marrying one another. Wonder if bi people are partly responsible?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-25793358

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Give me strength

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

bless his wee cotton socks...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

are bisexuals involved too

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


" are bisexuals involved too "

no, those fuckers cant make their bloody minds up...

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I thought it was the gushy women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" are bisexuals involved too

no, those fuckers cant make their bloody minds up..."

Oh yes I can ! I want it all

What a tit though. Mr Farage has his work cut out yet again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't use the link. What's it all about ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Smear campaign against Ukip continues...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thanks to UKIP, we now know that the recent floods had nothing to do with the jet stream but were caused by gay people marrying one another. Wonder if bi people are partly responsible?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-25793358"

LOL. Do you think Adam used to crack one off while looking at himself in the mirror before Eve came along?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Makes the Monster Raving Loony party look sane

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought dykes were supposed to prevent flooding!...

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By *ibbyhunterCouple
over a year ago

keighley

as the euro elections get closer, the tory press and the left wing bbc will try to smear ukip , the tories and labour are are really worried about ukip.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues..."

Says the UKIP member for Cheshire ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Time to start on that ark

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues..."

I'm the most suspicious, cynical person I know but UKIP really don't help themselves.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I thought dykes were supposed to prevent flooding!... "

Excellent one! Lmao!

Clearly he thinks gay men prefer patios to gardens because they don't want to get muddy so by constant patio building, they exaberate the problem of rain run-off and thus have a direct and adverse impact on flooding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues..."

How do you work that out? He wrote tge letter and is an open homophobe (which is why he is an ex-tory). All politicians, whatever their persuasion tend to be held accountable for their comments.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues...

I'm the most suspicious, cynical person I know but UKIP really don't help themselves. "

I didn't realise a smear campaign was needed for UKIP. How many are they fielding to be MEPs this time?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues...

How do you work that out? He wrote tge letter and is an open homophobe (which is why he is an ex-tory). All politicians, whatever their persuasion tend to be held accountable for their comments."

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts

have i been asleep for a couple of months or so and woke up on april 1st ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"as the euro elections get closer, the tory press and the left wing bbc will try to smear ukip , the tories and labour are are really worried about ukip."

I can understand why. I mean with 30000 members (or roughly 0.00047 of the UK population) they have huge support.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Must be all those pre intercourse enemas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolute pish... !!!

I'm straight, and I've caused a few floods in my day...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

he's probably had quite a few rentboys in his time...but very repressed about it..

these 'politicians'(of most parties)will say anything that keeps their potential voters

so if u want to keep idiots as voters, act accordingly

and its not exactly a smear, I believe in some policies on immigration etc etc..as they have sound scientific and sociological leanings...but to express a belief about gay marriage causing floods?...TWAT!

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Patios.

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By *at2Couple
over a year ago

north Down


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues..."

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow


"Thanks to UKIP, we now know that the recent floods had nothing to do with the jet stream but were caused by gay people marrying one another. Wonder if bi people are partly responsible?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-25793358"

hmmmmmm as i suspected,it'll not stop there,they just look guilty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues... "

How is discussing something a UKIP member said a smear campaign

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stupid comment from the councillor, however...

the other three parties have said and done so much worse in their ugly pasts.

yet there are some here who will continue to vote for them.

Meh politics

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

Has he not seen the speech by the New Zealand politician that refutes the claim that gay marriage causes freak weather conditions?

http://youtu.be/AfSGOK5jC9I

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues..."

Seriously? How is this a smear campaign? He wrote this in an open letter. He's smeared himself.

He and anyone who thinks as he does belong in the dark ages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Stupid comment from the councillor, however...

the other three parties have said and done so much worse in their ugly pasts.

yet there are some here who will continue to vote for them.

Meh politics

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Saying that others have done worse is not really ever going to cut it as a defence. We are all judged on our own actions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One politician is as bad as the next no matter what party he belongs to, but we must admit to connect natural disasters to a policy is completely absurd!

What a total plum!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i would like to say thats damaged ukips reputation but the whole party is or never will be anymore than a joke party for the mail readers and closet racists

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"as the euro elections get closer, the tory press and the left wing bbc will try to smear ukip , the tories and labour are are really worried about ukip.

I can understand why. I mean with 30000 members (or roughly 0.00047 of the UK population) they have huge support. "

Yes they do have huge support and rising all the time. If you look at various polls in different newspapers, over the last 5 years, UKIP have been gaining more and more support as each year passes. It can only continue as long as labour and the conservatives refuse to address the issue of our membership of the EU.

As for this guy who made the comments about gays, i really don't think his personal _iews represent the _iews of UKIP as a party. He will more than likely now be excluded from the party. A pity Labour did'nt exclude Gordon Brown a few years ago when he called someone a bigot for asking a simple question about immigration.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

UKIP can always be relied upon to liven up a dull news day. I bet their press officer is going bald with worry. Every time his phone rings he probably wonders what some fu%"wit has done this time. He probably only thinks it is a matter of time before some UKIP councillor is quoted out of context wearing a 3rd Reich costume at a fancy dress party....

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By *w33tCh33ks91TV/TS
over a year ago

Manchester

No floods in Manchester yet the north west gays need to step up their game clearly

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"as the euro elections get closer, the tory press and the left wing bbc will try to smear ukip , the tories and labour are are really worried about ukip.

I can understand why. I mean with 30000 members (or roughly 0.00047 of the UK population) they have huge support. "

It's not the paid up members they're worried about, it's the people likely to vote for them that concern the other parties. They might never become members of UKIP as such but will use their vote for them to register dissatisfaction with the party they normally support.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I would have thought if it was the gays... There would have been more sparkles and a big disco ball

It's raining men would have featured and some dancers in speedo's

Ffs, that's the wrong splash thingymajiggy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would have thought if it was the gays... There would have been more sparkles and a big disco ball

It's raining men would have featured and some dancers in speedo's

Ffs, that's the wrong splash thingymajiggy"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He may have a point. I was sucking cock last night and its been been pissing down all day here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And yet folk think ukip will solve uk problems.

Just another fringe one policy party with nutty leaders.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow


"He may have a point. I was sucking cock last night and its been been pissing down all day here "

ben you could solve some rainy problems in africa.

go suck some cock in ethiopia,happy days.

you could be king,more likely queen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He may have a point. I was sucking cock last night and its been been pissing down all day here

ben you could solve some rainy problems in africa.

go suck some cock in ethiopia,happy days.

you could be king,more likely queen.

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Maybe I could hire myself out. Between me and View we could turn the Sahara into lush green fields!

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

Oh dear, those trying to defend UKIP here are a bit desperate. Smear? The guy said it himself, openly. A smear is a lie or a distortion.

You realise you can still support UKIP (I don't know why you'd want to, but you can) and also condemn what this idiot has said?

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow


"He may have a point. I was sucking cock last night and its been been pissing down all day here

ben you could solve some rainy problems in africa.

go suck some cock in ethiopia,happy days.

you could be king,more likely queen.

Maybe I could hire myself out. Between me and View we could turn the Sahara into lush green fields! "

you and _iew could turn them into oceans.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh dear, those trying to defend UKIP here are a bit desperate. Smear? The guy said it himself, openly. A smear is a lie or a distortion.

You realise you can still support UKIP (I don't know why you'd want to, but you can) and also condemn what this idiot has said? "

Well said. The guys a twat... but at least he aint Miliband!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thanks to UKIP, we now know that the recent floods had nothing to do with the jet stream but were caused by gay people marrying one another. Wonder if bi people are partly responsible?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-25793358"

finally at last someone is telling the truth about global warming lol before i get hung drawn and quatered im joking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If being gay cause flood how come the ancient greeks had lovley weather?????

I'm pretty sure this isn't the first time this statment has been said

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues... "

OK so some god botherer makes a stupid remark and the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOL BBC starts jumping up and down as if the world is likely to come to an end because of it.

Had it been a member of their precious Liebour party the totally unbiased LOLOLOL BBC would make the smear campaign in the "Facist Nazi" right wing press its top story.

A good idea might have been to do a supplementary story about the REAL causes of the floods. Massive EU subsidies to farmers to grow crops or raise animals on land that should be forested, causing water run off 67 times faster than it would if trees were planted. But no we will never hear an anti EU squeak out of the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOLOL BBC.

Lets not let a few facts get in the way of a bit of UKIP bashing eh folks.

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By *ibbyhunterCouple
over a year ago

keighley


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues...

OK so some god botherer makes a stupid remark and the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOL BBC starts jumping up and down as if the world is likely to come to an end because of it.

Had it been a member of their precious Liebour party the totally unbiased LOLOLOL BBC would make the smear campaign in the "Facist Nazi" right wing press its top story.

A good idea might have been to do a supplementary story about the REAL causes of the floods. Massive EU subsidies to farmers to grow crops or raise animals on land that should be forested, causing water run off 67 times faster than it would if trees were planted. But no we will never hear an anti EU squeak out of the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOLOL BBC.

Lets not let a few facts get in the way of a bit of UKIP bashing eh folks."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh dear, those trying to defend UKIP here are a bit desperate. Smear? The guy said it himself, openly. A smear is a lie or a distortion.

"

This is the bit that makes me laugh most. Writing a letter to the press and then defending it's contents is not a smear campaign.Calling it that is just an act of desperation for those who support a party who have some members with disgusting/laughable _iews.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There has never been an intelligence test or for that matter a bigotry test applied to prospective MPs. Are we surprised? No.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There has never been an intelligence test or for that matter a bigotry test applied to prospective MPs. Are we surprised? No."

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

Fortunately we appear as a nation to now be edging down the road of personal responsibility instead of blame. The government is attempting to make work pay and we are being assured of an EU referendum in three years time.

The big problem is that we have two or even three generations who know only how to point the finger and blame rather than look in the mirror and take responsibility. This, unfortunately, makes the democratic process more of a danger than the civilised and representative process that it is meant to be.

Being open minded appears to be a thing of the past and having entrenched _iews seem to be the accepted position for many. The problem with having entrenched _iews is the way that the human mind then deals with the stories that do not fit with the entrenched position. As Freud said..... Deletion, distortion and exaggeration satisfies a troubled mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fortunately we appear as a nation to now be edging down the road of personal responsibility instead of blame. The government is attempting to make work pay and we are being assured of an EU referendum in three years time.

The big problem is that we have two or even three generations who know only how to point the finger and blame rather than look in the mirror and take responsibility. This, unfortunately, makes the democratic process more of a danger than the civilised and representative process that it is meant to be.

Being open minded appears to be a thing of the past and having entrenched _iews seem to be the accepted position for many. The problem with having entrenched _iews is the way that the human mind then deals with the stories that do not fit with the entrenched position. As Freud said..... Deletion, distortion and exaggeration satisfies a troubled mind."

Good post for so early on a Sunday!!

Only just made my first coffee.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fortunately we appear as a nation to now be edging down the road of personal responsibility instead of blame. The government is attempting to make work pay and we are being assured of an EU referendum in three years time.

The big problem is that we have two or even three generations who know only how to point the finger and blame rather than look in the mirror and take responsibility. This, unfortunately, makes the democratic process more of a danger than the civilised and representative process that it is meant to be.

Being open minded appears to be a thing of the past and having entrenched _iews seem to be the accepted position for many. The problem with having entrenched _iews is the way that the human mind then deals with the stories that do not fit with the entrenched position. As Freud said..... Deletion, distortion and exaggeration satisfies a troubled mind.

Good post for so early on a Sunday!!

Only just made my first coffee. "

seconded on both counts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I thought dykes were supposed to prevent flooding!... "
That made me laugh stop it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues...

OK so some god botherer makes a stupid remark and the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOL BBC starts jumping up and down as if the world is likely to come to an end because of it.

Had it been a member of their precious Liebour party the totally unbiased LOLOLOL BBC would make the smear campaign in the "Facist Nazi" right wing press its top story.

A good idea might have been to do a supplementary story about the REAL causes of the floods. Massive EU subsidies to farmers to grow crops or raise animals on land that should be forested, causing water run off 67 times faster than it would if trees were planted. But no we will never hear an anti EU squeak out of the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOLOL BBC.

Lets not let a few facts get in the way of a bit of UKIP bashing eh folks."

What the fuck has this story got to do with BBC bias? It's been reported everywhere. it would have been reported no matter who said it because it's so monumentally fucking stupid.

And as for the EU being responsible for global warming? You really do vote UKIP don't you? While, I note sharing a bi-national location.

Hot cup of Irony anyone?

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

UKIP - not so much a Political Party as a League of Gentlemen sketch that ran out of control.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues...

OK so some god botherer makes a stupid remark and the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOL BBC starts jumping up and down as if the world is likely to come to an end because of it.

Had it been a member of their precious Liebour party the totally unbiased LOLOLOL BBC would make the smear campaign in the "Facist Nazi" right wing press its top story.

A good idea might have been to do a supplementary story about the REAL causes of the floods. Massive EU subsidies to farmers to grow crops or raise animals on land that should be forested, causing water run off 67 times faster than it would if trees were planted. But no we will never hear an anti EU squeak out of the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOLOL BBC.

Lets not let a few facts get in the way of a bit of UKIP bashing eh folks.

What the fuck has this story got to do with BBC bias? It's been reported everywhere. it would have been reported no matter who said it because it's so monumentally fucking stupid.

And as for the EU being responsible for global warming? You really do vote UKIP don't you? While, I note sharing a bi-national location.

Hot cup of Irony anyone? "

Both UKIP stories have been reported in the Mail too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"UKIP - not so much a Political Party as a League of Gentlemen sketch that ran out of control."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doomed, we are all Doomed, I say

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

And bi's are the cause of global warming!

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

UKIP want to ban the teaching of climate change theory in schools - will they have a loophole so they can teach the Gay Flood concept?

UKIP don't need smearing, they are a parody of their own making.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"There has never been an intelligence test or for that matter a bigotry test applied to prospective MPs. Are we surprised? No."

Why should there be? They're supposed to represent the populace that voted for them; who are often stupid and bigoted, as evidenced on here any day you care to mention.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not standing up for ukip but they haven't said that gays caused floods, on very religous man said that, that just happens to be a member of that party.

Would everyone be saying that labour thought it if one man within their ranks said it. Or if one said that a fat man farted next to me and there was a hurrican in america therefore fat men farting causes them, would that mean that every labour person thinks that?

Just playing devil's advocate

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"I'm not standing up for ukip but they haven't said that gays caused floods, on very religous man said that, that just happens to be a member of that party.

Would everyone be saying that labour thought it if one man within their ranks said it. Or if one said that a fat man farted next to me and there was a hurrican in america therefore fat men farting causes them, would that mean that every labour person thinks that?

Just playing devil's advocate "

I think most semi-intelligent people got that bit, it was the ridiculous 'smear campaign' part that our obviously UKIP supporting friend came out with, that started the bun fight

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues...

OK so some god botherer makes a stupid remark and the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOL BBC starts jumping up and down as if the world is likely to come to an end because of it.

Had it been a member of their precious Liebour party the totally unbiased LOLOLOL BBC would make the smear campaign in the "Facist Nazi" right wing press its top story.

A good idea might have been to do a supplementary story about the REAL causes of the floods. Massive EU subsidies to farmers to grow crops or raise animals on land that should be forested, causing water run off 67 times faster than it would if trees were planted. But no we will never hear an anti EU squeak out of the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOLOL BBC.

Lets not let a few facts get in the way of a bit of UKIP bashing eh folks.

What the fuck has this story got to do with BBC bias? It's been reported everywhere. it would have been reported no matter who said it because it's so monumentally fucking stupid.

And as for the EU being responsible for global warming? You really do vote UKIP don't you? While, I note sharing a bi-national location.

Hot cup of Irony anyone?

Both UKIP stories have been reported in the Mail too. "

Of course they have. The Mail will do anything to have a pop at Farage. They have the Tory marginals to protect.

As for the other bit above. Where yes WHERE? because I would really like to know, did I blame the EU for global warming (BTW it's called climate change these days, do try to keep up at the back) What I DID say was that EU subsidies through the CAP encourage farmers to remove trees from their land, by payment of cold hard cash. Water drains through tree roots 67 times faster than through grass, but the EU would sooner pay farmers in run off areas to plant crops and raise animals on land that would be better with trees planted.

I do not deny that this UKIP pillock said what he said. But guess what the Liebour party has more than its fair share of pillocks, who say equally stupid things. But you rarely if ever see that on the far left BBC which will protect its Liebour chums at all cost.

Apart from The Crystal Methodist, who they could hardly ignore, but played down considerably compared to other outlets, the BBC never reports anything detrimental to Liebour.

Yes I do support UKIP and have done ever since the Tory party became the blue tie faction of the Liebour party. With the exception of the ridiculous Ed Balls (and maybe his Mrs) there is barely a fag paper between them.

As for our two country location, I do not see any irony at all. I believe the EU in its current form must be totally destroyed, for the benefit of the whole of Europe. IN UKIP I see a means to an end, and hopefully a British withdrawal will lead to a domino effect and the whole rotten edifice will come crashing down.

EU delende est (thats Latin BTW)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah fair enough hehe just thougt I'd help.

I am supprised thou that he didn't say that GB would be the next sodom and glamora haha

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"I'm not standing up for ukip but they haven't said that gays caused floods, on very religous man said that, that just happens to be a member of that party.

Would everyone be saying that labour thought it if one man within their ranks said it. Or if one said that a fat man farted next to me and there was a hurrican in america therefore fat men farting causes them, would that mean that every labour person thinks that?

Just playing devil's advocate

I think most semi-intelligent people got that bit, it was the ridiculous 'smear campaign' part that our obviously UKIP supporting friend came out with, that started the bun fight"

I read so much left wing crap on here that sometimes I just can't resist having a pop back.

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By *onnoisseur100Man
over a year ago

Woking-ish


"as the euro elections get closer, the tory press and the left wing bbc will try to smear ukip , the tories and labour are are really worried about ukip."

I was under the impression the UKIP man managed to say it all by himself. Without any help from sweeping generalizations. As for bisexuals they would be partially responsible surely. In this smallminded man's head.

I would have him charged with inciting homophobic crimes.

Still I guess you could say that now UKIP has two policies......a100% improvement.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"I'm not standing up for ukip but they haven't said that gays caused floods, on very religous man said that, that just happens to be a member of that party.

Would everyone be saying that labour thought it if one man within their ranks said it. Or if one said that a fat man farted next to me and there was a hurrican in america therefore fat men farting causes them, would that mean that every labour person thinks that?

Just playing devil's advocate

I think most semi-intelligent people got that bit, it was the ridiculous 'smear campaign' part that our obviously UKIP supporting friend came out with, that started the bun fight

I read so much left wing crap on here that sometimes I just can't resist having a pop back."

There's generally far more right wing crap on here than left wing crap, to be fair.

The only difference is, that the left wing crap tends to be a little more eloquently worded (yourself excluded, though I still pretty much 100% disagree with everything you said )

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

come the hose pipe ban later in the year, the gays will be all the fashion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some emotional people here, easily winding some of you up with such a little comment ^^ Muhahaha!

All i meant was...yes he said this stupid comment and its total and utter crap. I agree he Farage should kick him out.

But the BBC and other newspaper have taken it upon themselves to shove it on the front pages.

He was a tory member once...Does that make the tories equally accountable?

Come election day I won't be suffering from the amnesia most of the UK population contract when voting for the same 3 parties.

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By *onnoisseur100Man
over a year ago

Woking-ish


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues...

OK so some god botherer makes a stupid remark and the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOL BBC starts jumping up and down as if the world is likely to come to an end because of it.

Had it been a member of their precious Liebour party the totally unbiased LOLOLOL BBC would make the smear campaign in the "Facist Nazi" right wing press its top story.

A good idea might have been to do a supplementary story about the REAL causes of the floods. Massive EU subsidies to farmers to grow crops or raise animals on land that should be forested, causing water run off 67 times faster than it would if trees were planted. But no we will never hear an anti EU squeak out of the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOLOL BBC.

Lets not let a few facts get in the way of a bit of UKIP bashing eh folks."

What a load if claptrap. I heard the story on LBC radio

So we have UKIP SUPPORTER claiming the BBC is biased. Congratulations you join a very select club. The Labour Party and the conservative party both claim that the BBC is also biased against them. I can't personally remember the Lib Dems claiming this but I'm sure they have.

The one thing they all have in common is they all claim to be victims of bias when there is a negative story in all the media. I don't hear you complaining about the bias you receive from The Express newspapers in your favour 365 days a year.

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over a year ago

I could be, I do tend to cum a lot

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues...

OK so some god botherer makes a stupid remark and the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOL BBC starts jumping up and down as if the world is likely to come to an end because of it.

Had it been a member of their precious Liebour party the totally unbiased LOLOLOL BBC would make the smear campaign in the "Facist Nazi" right wing press its top story.

A good idea might have been to do a supplementary story about the REAL causes of the floods. Massive EU subsidies to farmers to grow crops or raise animals on land that should be forested, causing water run off 67 times faster than it would if trees were planted. But no we will never hear an anti EU squeak out of the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOLOL BBC.

Lets not let a few facts get in the way of a bit of UKIP bashing eh folks.

What a load if claptrap. I heard the story on LBC radio

So we have UKIP SUPPORTER claiming the BBC is biased. Congratulations you join a very select club. The Labour Party and the conservative party both claim that the BBC is also biased against them. I can't personally remember the Lib Dems claiming this but I'm sure they have.

The one thing they all have in common is they all claim to be victims of bias when there is a negative story in all the media. I don't hear you complaining about the bias you receive from The Express newspapers in your favour 365 days a year.

"

You will be telling me Polly Toynbee is a guardian (pun intended) of right wing values next

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Some emotional people here, easily winding some of you up with such a little comment ^^ Muhahaha!

All i meant was...yes he said this stupid comment and its total and utter crap. I agree he Farage should kick him out.

But the BBC and other newspaper have taken it upon themselves to shove it on the front pages.

He was a tory member once...Does that make the tories equally accountable?

Come election day I won't be suffering from the amnesia most of the UK population contract when voting for the same 3 parties.

"

Well said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not standing up for ukip but they haven't said that gays caused floods, on very religous man said that, that just happens to be a member of that party.

Would everyone be saying that labour thought it if one man within their ranks said it. Or if one said that a fat man farted next to me and there was a hurrican in america therefore fat men farting causes them, would that mean that every labour person thinks that?

Just playing devil's advocate

I think most semi-intelligent people got that bit, it was the ridiculous 'smear campaign' part that our obviously UKIP supporting friend came out with, that started the bun fight

I read so much left wing crap on here that sometimes I just can't resist having a pop back.

There's generally far more right wing crap on here than left wing crap, to be fair.

The only difference is, that the left wing crap tends to be a little more eloquently worded (yourself excluded, though I still pretty much 100% disagree with everything you said )"

Have to agree. just look at countless threads on benefits, crime, immigration etc.

That said the further right your beliefs are, I suspect the more "left wing crap" you see...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think that all the parties have good and bad policies and if they all weren't worried about lining their own pockets with money and focused on the well being of the country and put their heads together it be a much better place

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


".....

So we have UKIP SUPPORTER claiming the BBC is biased. Congratulations you join a very select club. The Labour Party and the conservative party both claim that the BBC is also biased against them. I can't personally remember the Lib Dems claiming this but I'm sure they have.

......

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And the SNP. Mind you, the SNP reckon EVERYONE is biased against them.

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling


"as the euro elections get closer, the tory press and the left wing bbc will try to smear ukip , the tories and labour are are really worried about ukip."

"Left wing BBC", and your evidence of that is?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The real issue here is not UKIP. It is religion and specifically religion in politics and therefore policy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If our UKIP supporting multi-national couple would like to provide evidence of BBC bias in this I would be greatful. As someone else said both the left and right have all claimed the BBC is biased against them at some point.

Which to me demonstrates that they are pretty much down the middle!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ever since I found out that we are living in what business leaders call the "post democratic age" I knew i'd never be able to vote for any of the big three parties again. UkIP here I come...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fortunately we appear as a nation to now be edging down the road of personal responsibility instead of blame. The government is attempting to make work pay and we are being assured of an EU referendum in three years time.

The big problem is that we have two or even three generations who know only how to point the finger and blame rather than look in the mirror and take responsibility. This, unfortunately, makes the democratic process more of a danger than the civilised and representative process that it is meant to be.

Being open minded appears to be a thing of the past and having entrenched _iews seem to be the accepted position for many. The problem with having entrenched _iews is the way that the human mind then deals with the stories that do not fit with the entrenched position. As Freud said..... Deletion, distortion and exaggeration satisfies a troubled mind."

A good post.

I agree with the thrust of it but disagree with your suggestion that people were more open minded in the past. I believe the opposite was the case.

People were less educated in the past and therefore entrenched _iews were rooted mainly in religious belief. To question them was to question God.

A measure of our progress is that this MP is facing ridicule by many. In the past a lot more people would have probably agreed with him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Funny how no one believes the bible, yet you have to swear on it in court...

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"Fortunately we appear as a nation to now be edging down the road of personal responsibility instead of blame. The government is attempting to make work pay and we are being assured of an EU referendum in three years time.

The big problem is that we have two or even three generations who know only how to point the finger and blame rather than look in the mirror and take responsibility. This, unfortunately, makes the democratic process more of a danger than the civilised and representative process that it is meant to be.

Being open minded appears to be a thing of the past and having entrenched _iews seem to be the accepted position for many. The problem with having entrenched _iews is the way that the human mind then deals with the stories that do not fit with the entrenched position. As Freud said..... Deletion, distortion and exaggeration satisfies a troubled mind.

A good post.

I agree with the thrust of it but disagree with your suggestion that people were more open minded in the past. I believe the opposite was the case.

People were less educated in the past and therefore entrenched _iews were rooted mainly in religious belief. To question them was to question God.

A measure of our progress is that this MP is facing ridicule by many. In the past a lot more people would have probably agreed with him. "

Don't worry, he's not an MP, he's a councillor who will be forgotten about tomorrow!

It's sad really, we're far more educated these days and yet a lot of people are far less open-minded. It's almost a waste of an education, when people don't bother thinking or researching for themselves and just believe any old crap they read in the media or on Facebook.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"Funny how no one believes the bible, yet you have to swear on it in court..."

No you don't!

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"Funny how no one believes the bible, yet you have to swear on it in court..."

There you go, proves my other point above. Twenty seconds on Google would have stopped you posting that ridiculous statement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No need, when someone can put me right on here is there?

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"No need, when someone can put me right on here is there?"

Precisely, why think for yourself when someone else can do it for you; UKIP will welcome you into their ranks with open arms with that philosophy, you're their dream constituent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe they should ban the bible and other religious texts for being homophobic, racist, alarmist, inciting people to be violent, misogynistic etc etc, I don't think you'd get away with publishing them these days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No need, when someone can put me right on here is there?

Precisely, why think for yourself when someone else can do it for you; UKIP will welcome you into their ranks with open arms with that philosophy, you're their dream constituent."

The other parties provide no alternative.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"Maybe they should ban the bible and other religious texts for being homophobic, racist, alarmist, inciting people to be violent, misogynistic etc etc, I don't think you'd get away with publishing them these days."

You're probably right, completely irrelevant, but right!

Or perhaps just the way they've been interpreted over the years, by people with a vested interest, has caused them to be seen as all of those things.

I'm no theologian, so I couldn't say for definite, are you?

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"No need, when someone can put me right on here is there?

Precisely, why think for yourself when someone else can do it for you; UKIP will welcome you into their ranks with open arms with that philosophy, you're their dream constituent.

The other parties provide no alternative."

No parties do if you don't think for yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's all the same policy run by career politicians who are being controlled by their puppet masters in brussels. Vote blue, red or yellow it makes no difference, just choose your favourite colour.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"UKIP - not so much a Political Party as a League of Gentlemen sketch that ran out of control."

Brilliant!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"UKIP - not so much a Political Party as a League of Gentlemen sketch that ran out of control.

Brilliant!"

You see the thing is is doesn't matter what alternative party you vote for (within reason obviously) but unless you vote away from the 3 primary colours nothing will change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Funny how no one believes the bible, yet you have to swear on it in court..."

No you don't.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"THE acting chair of Ukip in Scotland has become embroiled in a bigotry row after it emerged he said Glasgow City Council was for "Gays, Catholics [and] Communists"."

Nutter.

More at http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/ukip-chair-claims-glasgow-council-for-gays-catholics-communists-in-online-rant.23212831

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"UKIP - not so much a Political Party as a League of Gentlemen sketch that ran out of control.

Brilliant!

You see the thing is is doesn't matter what alternative party you vote for (within reason obviously) but unless you vote away from the 3 primary colours nothing will change."

Actually, the sensible thing to do is to vote for whoever will best represent you on a local level, which could actually come from any party, even the main three. Blindly voting for anyone BUT the main three won't help you at all.

Otherwise it just becomes like a Facebook campaign to make sure X Factor doesn't get to number one. A populist vote with no real thought going into what you could end up with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Funny how no one believes the bible, yet you have to swear on it in court...

No you don't. "

Yes we covered that further up.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"UKIP - not so much a Political Party as a League of Gentlemen sketch that ran out of control.

Brilliant!

You see the thing is is doesn't matter what alternative party you vote for (within reason obviously) but unless you vote away from the 3 primary colours nothing will change."

If you vote for anyone believing that it will create political 'change' under our current system, you are deluded.

That doesn't preclude a party of Little Englanders who think that society reached it's apex in the 1950s from being a laughing stock, of course.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"UKIP - not so much a Political Party as a League of Gentlemen sketch that ran out of control.

Brilliant!

You see the thing is is doesn't matter what alternative party you vote for (within reason obviously) but unless you vote away from the 3 primary colours nothing will change.

Actually, the sensible thing to do is to vote for whoever will best represent you on a local level, which could actually come from any party, even the main three. Blindly voting for anyone BUT the main three won't help you at all.

Otherwise it just becomes like a Facebook campaign to make sure X Factor doesn't get to number one. A populist vote with no real thought going into what you could end up with."

Unfortunately local politics won't stop your local spinal unit from being closed for running at a loss.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"UKIP - not so much a Political Party as a League of Gentlemen sketch that ran out of control.

Brilliant!

You see the thing is is doesn't matter what alternative party you vote for (within reason obviously) but unless you vote away from the 3 primary colours nothing will change.

If you vote for anyone believing that it will create political 'change' under our current system, you are deluded.

That doesn't preclude a party of Little Englanders who think that society reached it's apex in the 1950s from being a laughing stock, of course. "
hmmm maybe I should vote green then, they seem a level headed bunch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No need, when someone can put me right on here is there?

Precisely, why think for yourself when someone else can do it for you; UKIP will welcome you into their ranks with open arms with that philosophy, you're their dream constituent.

The other parties provide no alternative."

That's not a reason to vote for a party though.

Better we all spoiled our ballot papers en-masse.

And I think you'll find that all parties are controlled/influenced/make policy for the money that backs them. And that certainly isn't from Brussels.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"....................

You see the thing is is doesn't matter what alternative party you vote for (within reason obviously) but unless you vote away from the 3 primary colours nothing will change.

If you vote for anyone believing that it will create political 'change' under our current system, you are deluded.

............. "

If you decide to change that system, be careful what system you change it to.

The voting system for the Scottish Parliament was meant to ensure NO party could ever have an overall majority, thus ensuring a degree of sense and cross-party agreement on legislation.

Despite the SNP having fewer votes than the other parties, the distribution of seats means they have an overall majority and can enact all the bampot legislation they wish.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"UKIP - not so much a Political Party as a League of Gentlemen sketch that ran out of control.

Brilliant!

You see the thing is is doesn't matter what alternative party you vote for (within reason obviously) but unless you vote away from the 3 primary colours nothing will change.

Actually, the sensible thing to do is to vote for whoever will best represent you on a local level, which could actually come from any party, even the main three. Blindly voting for anyone BUT the main three won't help you at all.

Otherwise it just becomes like a Facebook campaign to make sure X Factor doesn't get to number one. A populist vote with no real thought going into what you could end up with.

Unfortunately local politics won't stop your local spinal unit from being closed for running at a loss."

Neither will voting for UKIP.

And if you vote for an MP that best represented you on a local level, you'd hope that he/she would be speaking out against the closure, as it's the best you could hope for!

Which current party, that is in any way viable, do you think WOULD keep open hospital departments that run at a loss?

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Vote for who you like, it makes no difference.

It's fun to tie your political colours to a party mast and gee them on as if you are supporting a football team, but the belief that our democracy gives you any actual influence over the significant decisions that govern our society is an erroneous one.

Politics are run by the rich, for the rich.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


".........

Which current party, that is in any way viable, do you think WOULD keep open hospital departments that run at a loss?"

Once you start asking about hospital departments in profit/ loss terms, you've lost the entire argument.

Hospitals ain't about profit.

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By *hris n AnnaCouple
over a year ago

edinburghish


"as the euro elections get closer, the tory press and the left wing bbc will try to smear ukip , the tories and labour are are really worried about ukip."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".........

Which current party, that is in any way viable, do you think WOULD keep open hospital departments that run at a loss?

Once you start asking about hospital departments in profit/ loss terms, you've lost the entire argument.

Hospitals ain't about profit."

Exactly, someone should tell the government!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I thought it was the gushy women."

last night's floods on my sofa certainly were...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Vote for who you like, it makes no difference.

It's fun to tie your political colours to a party mast and gee them on as if you are supporting a football team, but the belief that our democracy gives you any actual influence over the significant decisions that govern our society is an erroneous one.

Politics are run by the rich, for the rich."

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


".........

Which current party, that is in any way viable, do you think WOULD keep open hospital departments that run at a loss?

Once you start asking about hospital departments in profit/ loss terms, you've lost the entire argument.

Hospitals ain't about profit."

Do you think there was no lack of sarcasm and facetiousness in that comment?

The question was entirely rhetorical, as far as my own philosophies are concerned! Unfortunately, that isn't the way the world is run these days.

May I continue with the argument now?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Vote for who you like, it makes no difference.

It's fun to tie your political colours to a party mast and gee them on as if you are supporting a football team, but the belief that our democracy gives you any actual influence over the significant decisions that govern our society is an erroneous one.

Politics are run by the rich, for the rich."

Let us return to only land owning men having the vote. That will sort it out.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Vote for who you like, it makes no difference.

It's fun to tie your political colours to a party mast and gee them on as if you are supporting a football team, but the belief that our democracy gives you any actual influence over the significant decisions that govern our society is an erroneous one.

Politics are run by the rich, for the rich.

Let us return to only land owning men having the vote. That will sort it out."

At last someone sees the light

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Vote for who you like, it makes no difference.

It's fun to tie your political colours to a party mast and gee them on as if you are supporting a football team, but the belief that our democracy gives you any actual influence over the significant decisions that govern our society is an erroneous one.

Politics are run by the rich, for the rich.

Let us return to only land owning men having the vote. That will sort it out.

At last someone sees the light "

Being back Rotten Boroughs?

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Vote for who you like, it makes no difference.

It's fun to tie your political colours to a party mast and gee them on as if you are supporting a football team, but the belief that our democracy gives you any actual influence over the significant decisions that govern our society is an erroneous one.

Politics are run by the rich, for the rich.

Let us return to only land owning men having the vote. That will sort it out.

At last someone sees the light

Being back Rotten Boroughs?"

What do you mean "Bring Back"?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have to say some comments by ukip lovers here bordercon delusional.

Only good thing about ukip is they will take tory votes so we can get rid of cam the sham.

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over a year ago

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"Have to say some comments by ukip lovers here bordercon delusional.

Only good thing about ukip is they will take tory votes so we can get rid of cam the sham."

To be replaced by The Two Ed's...there's a Hobson's Choice if ever there was one!

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Have to say some comments by ukip lovers here bordercon delusional.

Only good thing about ukip is they will take tory votes so we can get rid of cam the sham."

Delusional? Hmmm.

So it's delusional to disagree with being ruled by unelected bureaucrats?

How many of you voted for the president (nay presidents) of Europe (there are three BTW and all get paid more than Obama)

The irony is that people prattle on about voting Liebour/Tory/Limp Dim and whoever else but don't realise that it matters not one jot which one gets elected. The only real power they can exert is what Brussels allows them to, at best they can only tinker around the edges.

Had we joined the Euro as the Limp Dims and a sizeable chunk of the Liebour party wanted, we would almost certainly be in a Greece (or at least Spain) situation by now.

Everyone in Britain should think themselves extremely lucky that the pound was retained, because what the BBC likes to call "savage cuts" and "austerity" would seem like a period of luxurious bliss compared to what the Greeks and to a slightly lesser extent the Portuguese, Spanish, and even the Irish have gone (and are still going) through. And hang on to your hats boys and girls, the fun isn't over yet. Italy is well and truly mired in the brown sticky stuff, and France (the real Elephant in the room) is coming up fast on the rails to be the next country to need a bailout.

Anyone who thinks more Europe and socialism will cure all the ill's of the country. Take a quick look across the channel at Hollande's France and the results are plain to see.

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over a year ago

Makes sense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Once again, wrong. The only power the party that wins can exert is that which the people who pay into their coffers wish them to.

Hence the not-so-stealth privatisation of the NHS and selling off of other national assets at a loss. Not just to the taxpayer but to future generations and in some cases our national identity.

You go on about the left being to blame. Well the right and it's rampant capitalism, based on making the masses consume products on credit hasn't done very well so far has it? Unless your definition of well is creating a huge wealth gap.

A change of attitude, funding of parties by the taxpayer and not by business with vested interest, a ban on corporate lobbying and junkets, and a liberal global outlook rather than a narrow minded small isle patriotism is whats needed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mwah, ha, haaa, feel our power over the weather and quake in fear you puny straight people

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Now that really does make sense.

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By *istress v in yorksCouple
over a year ago

south Yorkshire

Oh no, where's Joseph and his technical coloured dream coat when we need him? We'll have frogs in the rain soon...and what other rubbish was in that musical. He is mentally ill if he believes that rubbish. How can a supposedly sane adult say that and anyone take him seriously.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Mwah, ha, haaa, feel our power over the weather and quake in fear you puny straight people "

Please be more careful where you put that warm front

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have to say some comments by ukip lovers here bordercon delusional.

Only good thing about ukip is they will take tory votes so we can get rid of cam the sham.

Delusional? Hmmm.

So it's delusional to disagree with being ruled by unelected bureaucrats?

How many of you voted for the president (nay presidents) of Europe (there are three BTW and all get paid more than Obama)

The irony is that people prattle on about voting Liebour/Tory/Limp Dim and whoever else but don't realise that it matters not one jot which one gets elected. The only real power they can exert is what Brussels allows them to, at best they can only tinker around the edges.

Had we joined the Euro as the Limp Dims and a sizeable chunk of the Liebour party wanted, we would almost certainly be in a Greece (or at least Spain) situation by now.

Everyone in Britain should think themselves extremely lucky that the pound was retained, because what the BBC likes to call "savage cuts" and "austerity" would seem like a period of luxurious bliss compared to what the Greeks and to a slightly lesser extent the Portuguese, Spanish, and even the Irish have gone (and are still going) through. And hang on to your hats boys and girls, the fun isn't over yet. Italy is well and truly mired in the brown sticky stuff, and France (the real Elephant in the room) is coming up fast on the rails to be the next country to need a bailout.

Anyone who thinks more Europe and socialism will cure all the ill's of the country. Take a quick look across the channel at Hollande's France and the results are plain to see."

I always find it impossible to take a political post serious when the poster changes words to things like liebour Limp Dims.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apart from the name and the colour, is there really any difference between the two parties. Can't say I have noticed much difference over the last 20 years.

As for the UKIP guy... His party has the words united and independent in the name, no wonder he's bonkers!!

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By *homasP80Man
over a year ago

Linwood

How sad is it when gay people get the blame for flooding, it's so damn pathetic.

If 2 people love each other whether ot be:

M/F

M/M

F/F

Or whatever then people should embrace it/open there minds.

I prefer men, it DOESN'T make me a

bad person.

If you want to go down that road then blame the pedophiles

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling


"If our UKIP supporting multi-national couple would like to provide evidence of BBC bias in this I would be greatful. As someone else said both the left and right have all claimed the BBC is biased against them at some point.

Which to me demonstrates that they are pretty much down the middle! "

But the BBC does need to be renamed the EBC to reflect its coverage bias

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Once again, wrong. The only power the party that wins can exert is that which the people who pay into their coffers wish them to.

Hence the not-so-stealth privatisation of the NHS and selling off of other national assets at a loss. Not just to the taxpayer but to future generations and in some cases our national identity.

You go on about the left being to blame. Well the right and it's rampant capitalism, based on making the masses consume products on credit hasn't done very well so far has it? Unless your definition of well is creating a huge wealth gap.

A change of attitude, funding of parties by the taxpayer and not by business with vested interest, a ban on corporate lobbying and junkets, and a liberal global outlook rather than a narrow minded small isle patriotism is whats needed.

"

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"If our UKIP supporting multi-national couple would like to provide evidence of BBC bias in this I would be greatful. As someone else said both the left and right have all claimed the BBC is biased against them at some point.

Which to me demonstrates that they are pretty much down the middle!

But the BBC does need to be renamed the EBC to reflect its coverage bias "

What exactly IS it's coverage bias then?

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"

If you want to go down that road then blame the pedophiles

"

You could do but it would make you as daft as the UKIP councillor!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is fun isn't it

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues...

OK so some god botherer makes a stupid remark and the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOL BBC starts jumping up and down as if the world is likely to come to an end because of it.

Had it been a member of their precious Liebour party the totally unbiased LOLOLOL BBC would make the smear campaign in the "Facist Nazi" right wing press its top story.

A good idea might have been to do a supplementary story about the REAL causes of the floods. Massive EU subsidies to farmers to grow crops or raise animals on land that should be forested, causing water run off 67 times faster than it would if trees were planted. But no we will never hear an anti EU squeak out of the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOLOL BBC.

Lets not let a few facts get in the way of a bit of UKIP bashing eh folks.

What the fuck has this story got to do with BBC bias? It's been reported everywhere. it would have been reported no matter who said it because it's so monumentally fucking stupid.

And as for the EU being responsible for global warming? You really do vote UKIP don't you? While, I note sharing a bi-national location.

Hot cup of Irony anyone?

Both UKIP stories have been reported in the Mail too.

Of course they have. The Mail will do anything to have a pop at Farage. They have the Tory marginals to protect.

As for the other bit above. Where yes WHERE? because I would really like to know, did I blame the EU for global warming (BTW it's called climate change these days, do try to keep up at the back) What I DID say was that EU subsidies through the CAP encourage farmers to remove trees from their land, by payment of cold hard cash. Water drains through tree roots 67 times faster than through grass, but the EU would sooner pay farmers in run off areas to plant crops and raise animals on land that would be better with trees planted.

I do not deny that this UKIP pillock said what he said. But guess what the Liebour party has more than its fair share of pillocks, who say equally stupid things. But you rarely if ever see that on the far left BBC which will protect its Liebour chums at all cost.

Apart from The Crystal Methodist, who they could hardly ignore, but played down considerably compared to other outlets, the BBC never reports anything detrimental to Liebour.

Yes I do support UKIP and have done ever since the Tory party became the blue tie faction of the Liebour party. With the exception of the ridiculous Ed Balls (and maybe his Mrs) there is barely a fag paper between them.

As for our two country location, I do not see any irony at all. I believe the EU in its current form must be totally destroyed, for the benefit of the whole of Europe. IN UKIP I see a means to an end, and hopefully a British withdrawal will lead to a domino effect and the whole rotten edifice will come crashing down.

EU delende est (thats Latin BTW) "

oh lord where do i start with the pish and nonsense in this thread...

the UKIP bloke wrote an OPEN LETTER to the press...

let me say that again... an OPEN LETTER...

if a politican of any side had written this, there would have been a lot of press...

if the press didn't report this loons _iews as a prospective member of the european parliament, I would have said they were not going their jobs properly!!!

all the other parties have PR departments that would have disowned him by now...

The UKIP PR department are probably thinking "oh god not another one!"

think... Geoffrey Bloom...

if the name springs a bell he is the UKIP MEP who said it was wrong to send international aid to "bongo bongo land".... then followed it up by saying that feminism was a "passing fashion" created by "shrill, bored, middle-class women of a certain physical genre" and that any men who supported feminism were "the slightly effete politically correct chaps who get sand kicked in their face on the beach." He said that women were better at "[finding] the mustard in the pantry" than driving a car

so... anyway, back to the UKIP chap and his OPEN LETTER... he can't claim to be misquoted, you can't he didn't say it, so it isn't a smear....... and people want to gloss over what he actually said!!!!

so blame the press for reporting it, and not the person who said it... is that basically what is being said by those who claim smear??? thats weak!!!

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Once again, wrong. The only power the party that wins can exert is that which the people who pay into their coffers wish them to.

Hence the not-so-stealth privatisation of the NHS and selling off of other national assets at a loss. Not just to the taxpayer but to future generations and in some cases our national identity.

You go on about the left being to blame. Well the right and it's rampant capitalism, based on making the masses consume products on credit hasn't done very well so far has it? Unless your definition of well is creating a huge wealth gap.

A change of attitude, funding of parties by the taxpayer and not by business with vested interest, a ban on corporate lobbying and junkets, and a liberal global outlook rather than a narrow minded small isle patriotism is whats needed.

"

Last time I looked the NHS was still in public ownership. Still failing miserably in some areas and hamstrung by a culture where managers, PR departments, and an army of general pen pushers are more important than doctors or nurses, and a philosophy of cover your arse at all costs above patient care.

Some national assets have been sold off but so have an awful lot of national liabilities oh and a few bars of Gold that were knocked out down at the car boot but anyone who really remembers the 70's knows damn well that the old nationalised industry's were never run for the benefit of customers.

Making, I will repeat that, making? the masses consume products? Funny though I've never seen anyone dragged into Curry's and forced at gunpoint to by a 48" flatscreen on tick

The idea of state funding for political parties does have some merit, but it cuts both ways. I would agree that in some areas large company's have too much say in government policy, but so do the unions, and banning political funding from both sides would be right. However the replacement system would have to be open to all parties with the same rules for all whatever their _iews, and totally transparent.

As for liberal global outlook, forget it. That is like "I'd like to teach the world to sing" and all that nonsense. The liberal outlook will only be seen as weakness and exploited by nations who never have and never will share those values.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Smear campaign against Ukip continues...

OK so some god botherer makes a stupid remark and the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOL BBC starts jumping up and down as if the world is likely to come to an end because of it.

Had it been a member of their precious Liebour party the totally unbiased LOLOLOL BBC would make the smear campaign in the "Facist Nazi" right wing press its top story.

A good idea might have been to do a supplementary story about the REAL causes of the floods. Massive EU subsidies to farmers to grow crops or raise animals on land that should be forested, causing water run off 67 times faster than it would if trees were planted. But no we will never hear an anti EU squeak out of the totally unbiased LOLOLOLOLOL BBC.

Lets not let a few facts get in the way of a bit of UKIP bashing eh folks.

What the fuck has this story got to do with BBC bias? It's been reported everywhere. it would have been reported no matter who said it because it's so monumentally fucking stupid.

And as for the EU being responsible for global warming? You really do vote UKIP don't you? While, I note sharing a bi-national location.

Hot cup of Irony anyone?

Both UKIP stories have been reported in the Mail too.

Of course they have. The Mail will do anything to have a pop at Farage. They have the Tory marginals to protect.

As for the other bit above. Where yes WHERE? because I would really like to know, did I blame the EU for global warming (BTW it's called climate change these days, do try to keep up at the back) What I DID say was that EU subsidies through the CAP encourage farmers to remove trees from their land, by payment of cold hard cash. Water drains through tree roots 67 times faster than through grass, but the EU would sooner pay farmers in run off areas to plant crops and raise animals on land that would be better with trees planted.

I do not deny that this UKIP pillock said what he said. But guess what the Liebour party has more than its fair share of pillocks, who say equally stupid things. But you rarely if ever see that on the far left BBC which will protect its Liebour chums at all cost.

Apart from The Crystal Methodist, who they could hardly ignore, but played down considerably compared to other outlets, the BBC never reports anything detrimental to Liebour.

Yes I do support UKIP and have done ever since the Tory party became the blue tie faction of the Liebour party. With the exception of the ridiculous Ed Balls (and maybe his Mrs) there is barely a fag paper between them.

As for our two country location, I do not see any irony at all. I believe the EU in its current form must be totally destroyed, for the benefit of the whole of Europe. IN UKIP I see a means to an end, and hopefully a British withdrawal will lead to a domino effect and the whole rotten edifice will come crashing down.

EU delende est (thats Latin BTW)

oh lord where do i start with the pish and nonsense in this thread...

the UKIP bloke wrote an OPEN LETTER to the press...

let me say that again... an OPEN LETTER...

if a politican of any side had written this, there would have been a lot of press...

if the press didn't report this loons _iews as a prospective member of the european parliament, I would have said they were not going their jobs properly!!!

all the other parties have PR departments that would have disowned him by now...

The UKIP PR department are probably thinking "oh god not another one!"

think... Geoffrey Bloom...

if the name springs a bell he is the UKIP MEP who said it was wrong to send international aid to "bongo bongo land".... then followed it up by saying that feminism was a "passing fashion" created by "shrill, bored, middle-class women of a certain physical genre" and that any men who supported feminism were "the slightly effete politically correct chaps who get sand kicked in their face on the beach." He said that women were better at "[finding] the mustard in the pantry" than driving a car

so... anyway, back to the UKIP chap and his OPEN LETTER... he can't claim to be misquoted, you can't he didn't say it, so it isn't a smear....... and people want to gloss over what he actually said!!!!

so blame the press for reporting it, and not the person who said it... is that basically what is being said by those who claim smear??? thats weak!!!"

I have no problem with reporting it per se. It is just that certain sections of the media have made it into a much bigger issue than it really is.

Bottom line it's a loon of a god botherer shouting his mouth off with a load of bollocks, and I'm sure UKIP will expel him or at least de-select him forthwith.

Story over lets move on to the Crystal Methodist admitting it was his friends in high places that got him the job at the Co-op.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

UKIP just suspended the chap.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25802437

A perfect time to close this thread, perhaps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyway in other news Fargae has said today that he will rid UKIP of its more extreme candidates before May's elections and has promised to vet all 1,818 candidates to make sure they do not have extremist, barmy or nasty _iews.

It still isn't clear how in the absence of candidates with extrem, barmy or nasty _iews just how many UKIP candidates will be left!

But last time round UKIP were so desperate for candidates they accepted anyone with little if any vetting of their suitability and they have paid the price for that more than once. But it's beyond me how any party can expect to be taken seriously when they have such a lax and shortsighted approach.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

Story over lets move on to the Crystal Methodist admitting it was his friends in high places that got him the job at the Co-op.

I might add that I don't think Paxo will be leading Newsnight with that story any time soon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I have no problem with reporting it per se. It is just that certain sections of the media have made it into a much bigger issue than it really is.

"

Do you honestly not see why it is a big deal? This man is a councillor who in this letter has once again revealed his homophobia and is totally out of touch with reality and society.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Story over lets move on to the Crystal Methodist admitting it was his friends in high places that got him the job at the Co-op.

I might add that I don't think Paxo will be leading Newsnight with that story any time soon. "

How about starting a new thread on that topic rather than trying to derail this one?

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"

I have no problem with reporting it per se. It is just that certain sections of the media have made it into a much bigger issue than it really is.

Do you honestly not see why it is a big deal? This man is a councillor who in this letter has once again revealed his homophobia and is totally out of touch with reality and society."

Worth reporting yes, but the end of the world? not really. He is a local councillor and a bit (OK a lot) of a pillock. Take it from someone who has been on the front line in local and national elections, his _iews are quite tame compared to some I've come across from all parties.

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By *ibbyhunterCouple
over a year ago

keighley

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"Anyway in other news Fargae has said today that he will rid UKIP of its more extreme candidates before May's elections and has promised to vet all 1,818 candidates to make sure they do not have extremist, barmy or nasty _iews.

It still isn't clear how in the absence of candidates with extrem, barmy or nasty _iews just how many UKIP candidates will be left!

But last time round UKIP were so desperate for candidates they accepted anyone with little if any vetting of their suitability and they have paid the price for that more than once. But it's beyond me how any party can expect to be taken seriously when they have such a lax and shortsighted approach."

in recent years 11 tory or labour politicians have spent time in jail for one thing or other,perhaps they should vet their candidates.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Story over lets move on to the Crystal Methodist admitting it was his friends in high places that got him the job at the Co-op.

I might add that I don't think Paxo will be leading Newsnight with that story any time soon.

How about starting a new thread on that topic rather than trying to derail this one?"

I think his criminal actions are far worse than the nutty kipper, so in the context of the reporting (or non reporting) quite relevant I think.

Amazing how defensive the liberals can be when it's one of their own in the firing line.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

Just to add. UKIP have now suspended him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Story over lets move on to the Crystal Methodist admitting it was his friends in high places that got him the job at the Co-op.

I might add that I don't think Paxo will be leading Newsnight with that story any time soon.

How about starting a new thread on that topic rather than trying to derail this one?

I think his criminal actions are far worse than the nutty kipper, so in the context of the reporting (or non reporting) quite relevant I think.

Amazing how defensive the liberals can be when it's one of their own in the firing line. "

Who got defensive? I just find it telling that as the UKIP are being mocked on here you are trying to derail the thread with a totally unrelated news story because it suits your agenda.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

It hasn't rained here today so I assume all the gay people took a vow of celibacy around here.

Not all UKIP individuals will be totally bonkers, just as not all Tory/Labour/LibDems will be corrupt and delusional.

Even Nige said the UK should do more for Syrians. A UKIP person in London has been supporting the soup kitchens for the Romanians living rough.

Use your vote. Apathy gets us nowhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh please, you're so far out of touch you're in the stands having a bovril.

The NHS has been decimated by successive governments to get to a point where they can point at it and say "Look, the NHS clearly isn't working and you'd be better off if we scrapped it and you all went private".

Hospitals shouldn't be competing against each other for "customers". And it does need managers running it, under the advice and scrutiny of medical professionals. Doctors and nurses are good at providing care. Not ordering supplies and paying staff. A level of management is necessary.

As for the other national assests, well the post office was clearly undersold on the advice of people who went on to make a fortune out of it. And the less said about the ongoing balls-up that was rail privatisation the better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Story over lets move on to the Crystal Methodist admitting it was his friends in high places that got him the job at the Co-op.

I might add that I don't think Paxo will be leading Newsnight with that story any time soon.

How about starting a new thread on that topic rather than trying to derail this one?

I think his criminal actions are far worse than the nutty kipper, so in the context of the reporting (or non reporting) quite relevant I think.

Amazing how defensive the liberals can be when it's one of their own in the firing line. "

So far no one has jumped to his defence have they? Nope? Anyone?

And coverage of his fuck ups was reported everywhere, even on the BBC.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

vote liberal and get proportional representation in ASAP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

UKIP didn't suspend him for his initial comments, they told hom not to discuss it again so he gave a radio inter_iew claiming he believes that homosexuality can be "cured".

In other new Westboro Baptist Church have voiced their support for him.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Oh please, you're so far out of touch you're in the stands having a bovril.

The NHS has been decimated by successive governments to get to a point where they can point at it and say "Look, the NHS clearly isn't working and you'd be better off if we scrapped it and you all went private".

Hospitals shouldn't be competing against each other for "customers". And it does need managers running it, under the advice and scrutiny of medical professionals. Doctors and nurses are good at providing care. Not ordering supplies and paying staff. A level of management is necessary.

As for the other national assests, well the post office was clearly undersold on the advice of people who went on to make a fortune out of it. And the less said about the ongoing balls-up that was rail privatisation the better.

"

National assets, i see you left out the FACT that Gordon Brown sold off most of our Gold on the cheap while Labour were in power.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"UKIP didn't suspend him for his initial comments, they told hom not to discuss it again so he gave a radio inter_iew claiming he believes that homosexuality can be "cured".

In other new Westboro Baptist Church have voiced their support for him.

"

And we all know what a level-headed organisation that is.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Anyway in other news Fargae has said today that he will rid UKIP of its more extreme candidates before May's elections and has promised to vet all 1,818 candidates to make sure they do not have extremist, barmy or nasty _iews.

It still isn't clear how in the absence of candidates with extrem, barmy or nasty _iews just how many UKIP candidates will be left!

But last time round UKIP were so desperate for candidates they accepted anyone with little if any vetting of their suitability and they have paid the price for that more than once. But it's beyond me how any party can expect to be taken seriously when they have such a lax and shortsighted approach."

It's beyond me how any party can be expected to be taken seriously (Labour and the Liberal democrats, ohh such irony) when they are clearly un-democratic!

Labour and the Lib Dems don't want the people of the UK to have a say on our membership of the EU, because they think we can't be trusted and we will all vote to leave, LOL.

Newsflash, that is called Democracy and if the people of the UK vote to leave the EU in a referendum then so be it.

The EU as it is today is not what we signed up for when we joined.

It's about time we now had another vote to decide if we the people want to stay in Europe or not, and not for the likes of Miliband and Clegg to decide for us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh please, you're so far out of touch you're in the stands having a bovril.

The NHS has been decimated by successive governments to get to a point where they can point at it and say "Look, the NHS clearly isn't working and you'd be better off if we scrapped it and you all went private".

Hospitals shouldn't be competing against each other for "customers". And it does need managers running it, under the advice and scrutiny of medical professionals. Doctors and nurses are good at providing care. Not ordering supplies and paying staff. A level of management is necessary.

As for the other national assests, well the post office was clearly undersold on the advice of people who went on to make a fortune out of it. And the less said about the ongoing balls-up that was rail privatisation the better.

National assets, i see you left out the FACT that Gordon Brown sold off most of our Gold on the cheap while Labour were in power. "

It was hardly a comprehensive list I was compiling! And all 3 parties are equally to blame.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"UKIP just suspended the chap.

....... "

By the neck?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a campaign to get Its Raining Men to number one to show how daft this chap is.

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By *ingjayMan
over a year ago

exeter

Bloody gays at it again!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think the comments were meant to express the _iews of his political party so if I were a supporter of member of ukip which i am defiantly not I would not be overly concerned by them as its got them in from the shadows once again and into the news.

what I think it does is clearly show the archaic and ridiculous _iews and beliefs still held by many members of the Christian church and this if I were a Christian which one again I'm not would worry me to think that I belonged to a belief which still holds such bigotry as a moral code and belief.

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over a year ago


"I don't think the comments were meant to express the _iews of his political party so if I were a supporter of member of ukip which i am defiantly not I would not be overly concerned by them as its got them in from the shadows once again and into the news.

what I think it does is clearly show the archaic and ridiculous _iews and beliefs still held by many members of the Christian church and this if I were a Christian which one again I'm not would worry me to think that I belonged to a belief which still holds such bigotry as a moral code and belief. "

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"There is a campaign to get Its Raining Men to number one to show how daft this chap is. "

Gay couples have offered to visit any drought hit areas to help out.

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over a year ago


"There is a campaign to get Its Raining Men to number one to show how daft this chap is.

Gay couples have offered to visit any drought hit areas to help out. "

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

My gay friends are saying that we should prepare for a wet summer as they are very loved up at the moment.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

They must be having a

tag orgy in Scotland.

Its not stopped raining since 1984.

Where's that wee emotion with the umbrella.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Somerset Levels on the news. The problem is that the Levels are supposed to be wet in the winter and used in the summer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And we have really bad weather coming in on Sunday! Poor bastards

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