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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The BBC3 programme on new teachers has been very good. But it is scary to see just how badly behaved many pupils seem to be, how this is tolerated by the hierachy and how teachers are forced to compromise with very difficult individuals. Should schools adopt a much harder line and return to old fashioned policies on discipline to help teachers do what they want, which is to teach those who want to learn??

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Yes.

But parents ultimately need to carry the can for the bad behaviour of their children.

Schools should be able to work with parents not have to overcome the effects of poor parenting.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Bit is there too much pandering to parents and disruptive children? Should schools not have the right to warn about behaviour and then remove a child if they continue to be difficult? The danger is the lowest common denominator prevails?

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Have you any idea how difficult it is to permanently exclude a pupil? And even then parents can appeal.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Have you any idea how difficult it is to permanently exclude a pupil? And even then parents can appeal. "

I think the question is, in part, should it be easier?

I think it should.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I think we need a system where teachers are allowed to teach and pupils are are allowed to learn without disruptive kids distracting them.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"I think we need a system where teachers are allowed to teach and pupils are are allowed to learn without disruptive kids distracting them. "

In some schools there are so many that you'd have to deal with 30%+

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Teachers should be allowed to throw chalk. As long as they are accurate. My geography teacher could throw it from behind his back and hit the transgressor between the eyes. Made us concentrate. Mind you, don't ask me the capital of any darned country. I will just answer "Chalk."

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Yes.

But parents ultimately need to carry the can for the bad behaviour of their children.

Schools should be able to work with parents not have to overcome the effects of poor parenting. "

By the time kids get to school aged 5 ish, the damage has been done.

The Jesuits got it right about getting a child while they're young. It wasn't just to facilitate child abuse.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm grateful to have well behaved children, if anything it's at home that they play up. We used get detention and suspension of it was serious. Times have changed since

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Seems like kids know they can get away with unruly behaviour without any repercussions. And teachers who do a fabulous job are forced to try and deal with them. I find it disgusting.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

In fairness to a lot of teens, who I've been working with for more than 20 years, there are very very few I've met who have not had some kind of redeeming feature. Sit down quietly with them and you will find they're really not all that bad.

Often tv shows the worst element. Of course, it is very difficult and stressful dealing with children who demonstrate challenging behaviour but we cannot simply write them off at such a young age. Many times these children can turn their lives around. They are worth the effort. Otherwise we fail them utterly if we do not even try. And sometimes we have to try again and again.

Teenagers can be wonderful and we often forget that with the very negative views of them in the media.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I coach teenage kids and I think it is the parents who set the example. If I tell a kid off for bad behaviour most parents support me. Some however accuse me of all sorts. It is the mentality that their kids are above everyone else and should not be disciplined which makes it incredibly hard for everyone else. I have had to ask kids to leave as a result, if a team (or class) sees one kid able to get away with poor behaviour then everyone else feels the same is acceptable and things descend into chaos.

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By *mandaKnightleyTV/TS
over a year ago

Hinckley


"Teachers should be allowed to throw chalk. As long as they are accurate. My geography teacher could throw it from behind his back and hit the transgressor between the eyes. Made us concentrate. Mind you, don't ask me the capital of any darned country. I will just answer "Chalk.""

You were lucky. In my school it was the blackboard eraser that went flying. And I sat next to the class idiot. And the geography teacher was a rotten shot.

By the way, the capital of Colombia is Fuckthathurt!

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By *mandaKnightleyTV/TS
over a year ago

Hinckley


"Have you any idea how difficult it is to permanently exclude a pupil? And even then parents can appeal.

I think the question is, in part, should it be easier?

I think it should."

That just displaces the problem anyway, creating sink schools and oversized pupil referral units.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Have you any idea how difficult it is to permanently exclude a pupil? And even then parents can appeal.

I think the question is, in part, should it be easier?

I think it should.

That just displaces the problem anyway, creating sink schools and oversized pupil referral units. "

Is it better to try and deal with a persistently disruptive kid in a normal school environment to the detriment of the vast majority who want to learn, or to provide a specialist environment for that individual that allows for the specialist care he/she needs?

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