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"It's a cheap programme to get Z list nobheads back in the Spotlight. Who gives a Toss " | |||
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"It's a cheap programme to get Z list nobheads back in the Spotlight. Who gives a Toss " The programme is cheap, but is the discussion valid? Or are you comfortable with men and women being perceived differently for doing much the same thing? | |||
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"...So Dippy Dappy thinks..." If the world thought like that moron we'd still be cavemen/women | |||
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"It's a cheap programme to get Z list nobheads back in the Spotlight. Who gives a Toss The programme is cheap, but is the discussion valid? Or are you comfortable with men and women being perceived differently for doing much the same thing?" I think the discussion is very valid wherever it originated. I think it shows that opinions of women haven't changed much if a youngish man very much involved in "popular culture" holds such views. I am aware from how my two grown up kids speak of their friends that it is still acceptable for a man to have lots of sexual partners but those same men still want virgins for their brides (I exaggerate slightly but you get my drift) and the women reinforce that behaviour. Serial monogamy however is a much more in favour and having a series of sexual partners is acceptable. What people say and what people do however are two different things and for lots of people casual sex and lots of different partners is the norm.....the wise ones just keep quiet about it.......plus ca change! | |||
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"Sorry OP but for me the discussion died when you said: ...So Dippy Dappy thinks... If the world thought like that moron we'd still be cavemen/women " I totally agree, the scary thing is if you look at the public comments on social media/press forums etc a large number of people actually agree with the idiot | |||
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"Sorry OP but for me the discussion died when you said: ...So Dippy Dappy thinks... If the world thought like that moron we'd still be cavemen/women " I think lots of people do think like him | |||
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"It's a cheap programme to get Z list nobheads back in the Spotlight. Who gives a Toss The programme is cheap, but is the discussion valid? Or are you comfortable with men and women being perceived differently for doing much the same thing?" If the tosh wasn't watched then the knobheads views wouldn't be heard,I am very comfortable in not knowing their views because I don't care | |||
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"It's a cheap programme to get Z list nobheads back in the Spotlight. Who gives a Toss The programme is cheap, but is the discussion valid? Or are you comfortable with men and women being perceived differently for doing much the same thing? If the tosh wasn't watched then the knobheads views wouldn't be heard,I am very comfortable in not knowing their views because I don't care" Sadly it's not just his views. Like the OP said many social forums are agreeing it's ok for the guys to sleep around but not the women. Sadly I don't think this will ever really change and it know many women who lower their number when asked | |||
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"So Dippy Dappy thinks it is more acceptable for men to have multiple partners in an evening than women who are just "slags" whose kids would be ashamed of them. Was surprised to see on forums in the press how many people support the view that men's sexual activities should be viewed differently to womens. Seems we still live in a rather repressed society. " Do I hear James Brown singing? | |||
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"It's a cheap programme to get Z list nobheads back in the Spotlight. Who gives a Toss The programme is cheap, but is the discussion valid? Or are you comfortable with men and women being perceived differently for doing much the same thing? If the tosh wasn't watched then the knobheads views wouldn't be heard,I am very comfortable in not knowing their views because I don't care" Unfortunately tosh like this does influence opinion. I don't think I have ever seen a sensible debate on modern sexuality and therefore many people listen to nonsense such as this and stereotypes and old fashioned views are perpetuated. | |||
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"who the fuck is dippy dappy? " If you don't know, count yourself lucky and don't try and find out! | |||
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"I'm surprised if that's the attitude with younger people - not in the least if it prevails with some older people. On the flip side there's a different regard for same-sex activities between women than there is with men." I think that this is still the view of many, even if not always verbalised. I have even encountered it on here, a swingers site where I was once told my children would be ashamed of me! Which I know for a fact they would not, because I have not brought them up not be intolerant to other people's different lifestyle choices | |||
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"This is a swingers site and as such you will find that quite a few of the single men on here want to stick their bits into quite a few of the Ladies bits, therefore the Ladies that want the single blokes to insert their bits are propagating the view of said single men that you mentioned, correct me if I'm wrong but of course I never am because I'm a man " I don't understand your point? That women should stop in order to challenge the view? | |||
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"This is a swingers site and as such you will find that quite a few of the single men on here want to stick their bits into quite a few of the Ladies bits, therefore the Ladies that want the single blokes to insert their bits are propagating the view of said single men that you mentioned, correct me if I'm wrong but of course I never am because I'm a man I don't understand your point? That women should stop in order to challenge the view?" ditto.. would think that some or most of the women the post refer's to are among the more sexually educated and diverse within society and not the ones within their sex to propogate such views.. could be wrong cos i'm just a bloke.. | |||
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"So Dippy Dappy thinks it is more acceptable for men to have multiple partners in an evening than women who are just "slags" whose kids would be ashamed of them. Was surprised to see on forums in the press how many people support the view that men's sexual activities should be viewed differently to womens. Seems we still live in a rather repressed society. " You mean that people who read tabloids and watch Big Brother may not be the most open minded and progressive thinking people - wow, never saw that one coming | |||
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"Oh dear, getting angry over some douche on a bullshit show. Pretty sure there's more important things to be angry about?" Like what? And thanks for your time - I appreciate you're too busy to engage in such meaningless debate. | |||
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"Oh dear, getting angry over some douche on a bullshit show. Pretty sure there's more important things to be angry about?" think you've put your own interpretation on how folks are reacting to this.. its hardly anger, frustration perhaps.. agree the show is pants, then again having never watched it should i comment.. ooh err the public forum eh.. | |||
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"So Dippy Dappy thinks it is more acceptable for men to have multiple partners in an evening than women who are just "slags" whose kids would be ashamed of them. Was surprised to see on forums in the press how many people support the view that men's sexual activities should be viewed differently to womens. Seems we still live in a rather repressed society. You mean that people who read tabloids and watch Big Brother may not be the most open minded and progressive thinking people - wow, never saw that one coming" I think there is a vast swathe of society that still finds a sexually empowered woman something to be vilified rather than respected for her choices. But thank you for the comment | |||
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" I think there is a vast swathe of society that still finds a sexually empowered woman something to be vilified rather than respected for her choices." would agree and add that its another aspect of a lack of equality in general.. some males cant and wont accept a seually empowered woman.. fear perhaps..? | |||
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"This is a swingers site and as such you will find that quite a few of the single men on here want to stick their bits into quite a few of the Ladies bits, therefore the Ladies that want the single blokes to insert their bits are propagating the view of said single men that you mentioned, correct me if I'm wrong but of course I never am because I'm a man I don't understand your point? That women should stop in order to challenge the view?" My point had nothing to do with women stopping it was that I typed something to get a reaction and it worked, got noticed and that's what so called celebrities go on these two bob programmes for, to get their name out there in the public eye. It's those that watch, vote and then debate who are spurring Tv companies on to make more and more mindless rubbish. I rest my case your honour Please vote for me coz I want to buy my mum a new house Thanks Mindless Muffin | |||
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"This is a swingers site and as such you will find that quite a few of the single men on here want to stick their bits into quite a few of the Ladies bits, therefore the Ladies that want the single blokes to insert their bits are propagating the view of said single men that you mentioned, correct me if I'm wrong but of course I never am because I'm a man I don't understand your point? That women should stop in order to challenge the view? My point had nothing to do with women stopping it was that I typed something to get a reaction and it worked, got noticed and that's what so called celebrities go on these two bob programmes for, to get their name out there in the public eye. It's those that watch, vote and then debate who are spurring Tv companies on to make more and more mindless rubbish. I rest my case your honour Please vote for me coz I want to buy my mum a new house Thanks Mindless Muffin " Or you said something, realised it was tosh and convoluted a (quite odd) excuse to justify it. Even if not I find it odd that you'd think he had purposefully gone in to that programme with a mission to convince people of those opinions. Odd either way. | |||
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"Lots of people think it. Even on here. Look at those that think more than a few meets is wrong.. It's just how it is... And doubt it will change any time soon x" Exactly. | |||
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"This is a swingers site and as such you will find that quite a few of the single men on here want to stick their bits into quite a few of the Ladies bits, therefore the Ladies that want the single blokes to insert their bits are propagating the view of said single men that you mentioned, correct me if I'm wrong but of course I never am because I'm a man I don't understand your point? That women should stop in order to challenge the view? My point had nothing to do with women stopping it was that I typed something to get a reaction and it worked, got noticed and that's what so called celebrities go on these two bob programmes for, to get their name out there in the public eye. It's those that watch, vote and then debate who are spurring Tv companies on to make more and more mindless rubbish. I rest my case your honour Please vote for me coz I want to buy my mum a new house Thanks Mindless Muffin Or you said something, realised it was tosh and convoluted a (quite odd) excuse to justify it. Even if not I find it odd that you'd think he had purposefully gone in to that programme with a mission to convince people of those opinions. Odd either way." No I don't think he went in there to convince people of those opinions I think they all go in there to get their Faces back on TV and in the papers and spouting crap is good publicity and money in the bank. Please vote for me I need to clear my Tax bill | |||
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"I can agree on that" Phew I was starting to confuse myself there lol | |||
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" I think there is a vast swathe of society that still finds a sexually empowered woman something to be vilified rather than respected for her choices. would agree and add that its another aspect of a lack of equality in general.. some males cant and wont accept a seually empowered woman.. fear perhaps..? " We are equal but not everyone thinks the same as we are all different in how we see things . I believe it is based upon the saying that women are the pillar of society and life comes from this pillar in order to keep the society growing and prospering. You could even say the foundation. And if the foundation is weak so is the building weak. A lot to do with us having children .. yes old fashion I know. | |||
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"So Dippy Dappy thinks it is more acceptable for men to have multiple partners in an evening than women who are just "slags" whose kids would be ashamed of them. Was surprised to see on forums in the press how many people support the view that men's sexual activities should be viewed differently to womens. Seems we still live in a rather repressed society. " People are still biased and have arcane attitudes but its not everyone just an unenlightened few. | |||
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" I think there is a vast swathe of society that still finds a sexually empowered woman something to be vilified rather than respected for her choices. would agree and add that its another aspect of a lack of equality in general.. some males cant and wont accept a seually empowered woman.. fear perhaps..? We are equal but not everyone thinks the same as we are all different in how we see things . I believe it is based upon the saying that women are the pillar of society and life comes from this pillar in order to keep the society growing and prospering. You could even say the foundation. And if the foundation is weak so is the building weak. A lot to do with us having children .. yes old fashion I know." It's a rather biblical argument Jo. Usually spouted to perpetuate the myth that women are weak creatures who don't know their own minds and must be led by men. To give women an image of natural purity and gentleness helps to keep them submissive. I think it's equally important for men to behave responsibly. To listen to their mind and not use the old 'cock led lad' excuse for wrong behaviour. I dislike the mind set and behaviour of those kinds of men but not as much as I dislike the forgiveness of their women. Totally trained in a patriarchal society. | |||
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"It's a cheap programme to get Z list nobheads back in the Spotlight. Who gives a Toss " Yup | |||
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"Oh ...... p.s. I am not an advocate of monogamny but I have always been a believer in loyalty and honesty." well said xxxx | |||
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"Usually spouted to perpetuate the myth that women are weak creatures who don't know their own minds and must be led by men. To give women an image of natural purity and gentleness helps to keep them submissive. I think it's equally important for men to behave responsibly. To listen to their mind and not use the old 'cock led lad' excuse for wrong behaviour. I dislike the mind set and behaviour of those kinds of men but not as much as I dislike the forgiveness of their women. Totally trained in a patriarchal society." this.. | |||
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"I have to say this, although I agree that women and men are no different as far others should view them. They are NOT equal when it comes to sex. Men usually have to display and to a certain extent go through hoops to attract and secure a sexual partner. However women don't have to do this in the same way. When it comes to sex women hold most if the cards and have the majority of the decision making power. So - a man who has lots of partners is very good at convincing women tonhave sex with him. He knows the game and knows his to turn on a woman. This produces respect from his male peers. A woman who has lots or partners is generally considered to just say "yes" more often. Ironically by saying no generally produces more respect from female peers. So there is a bit of a difference. I personally don't care, if a man it a woman are getting their rocks off and having fun - fair play to them. Xxxx" Women display. The display more body than men. They wear more make up than men. They squeal in high tones to get noticed. Women display. Incidentally there is a whole heap of difference between what is displayed when seeking sex and what is displayed when wanting a 'life' partner to rear children with. From both males and females. | |||
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"I have to say this, although I agree that women and men are no different as far others should view them. They are NOT equal when it comes to sex. Men usually have to display and to a certain extent go through hoops to attract and secure a sexual partner. However women don't have to do this in the same way. When it comes to sex women hold most if the cards and have the majority of the decision making power. So - a man who has lots of partners is very good at convincing women tonhave sex with him. He knows the game and knows his to turn on a woman. This produces respect from his male peers. A woman who has lots or partners is generally considered to just say "yes" more often. Ironically by saying no generally produces more respect from female peers. So there is a bit of a difference. I personally don't care, if a man it a woman are getting their rocks off and having fun - fair play to them. Xxxx Women display. The display more body than men. They wear more make up than men. They squeal in high tones to get noticed. Women display. Incidentally there is a whole heap of difference between what is displayed when seeking sex and what is displayed when wanting a 'life' partner to rear children with. From both males and females. " Couldn't agree more - I was generalising | |||
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"Dippy Dappy... Like Deputy Dawg or Daffy Duck? Surely no-one gives two figs to what a mindless cartoon character states? " Oddly enough I do. Sadly I have learned that it's NOT what you say or how TRUTHFUL your words. It's how much people listen. Dangerous tripe comes from the charismatic.... Look at some odd religions where people cling to the wild and insane teachings of their 'prophet' and willingly murder or commit suicide. Everyone needs to learn to be FREE thinkers. | |||
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"It's a cheap programme to get Z list nobheads back in the Spotlight. Who gives a Toss " Very well said. What a waste of time, effort and energy!!! | |||
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"you're not talking shite! I like BB..... parts of it get on my titty fah lahs .. but I have always enjoyed dynamic and human behaviour. Ive had reams of stuff from here for my book. " why I look at times at this and don't look at all the bb shows just now and again. I enjoyed dynamic and human behaviour and see if things go the way I think they will .. I know jim is a grump but I some how thinks he makes a change to what's going on in there. | |||
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"Jo, I'm finding it scary that I actually like Jim. He has insights and some wisdom." yes why I like him he see the games. And has that insight your right and not putting up with the crap and I really like that about him. | |||
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"Jo, I'm finding it scary that I actually like Jim. He has insights and some wisdom." I like Jim too. Didn't think I would. Depends on what they show though. They only have about 45 minutes of tv time to get the day's events into. They are showing only the loudest people. Also interesting how they cut rhings. Luisa telling Mrs Nolan (is it Linda?) to fuck off.... but when they showed the full scene she was only joking. Plus Sam saying people had been talking behind her back so Luisa and wotsit (I'm crap with names) went mental on Casey. Yet it was all just a joke/ task. Loving it. | |||
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"So Dippy Dappy thinks it is more acceptable for men to have multiple partners in an evening than women who are just "slags" whose kids would be ashamed of them. Was surprised to see on forums in the press how many people support the view that men's sexual activities should be viewed differently to womens. Seems we still live in a rather repressed society. " Given the ideology above Dappy is, in fact, standing up for Bi and Gay men all over the country. Because by his ideology above, men can sleep around with many partners in an evening but women should not. Therefore, the men must be sleeping with other men given that in 'Dappy's world' women should be chaste and monogamous. Word. | |||
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