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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

What's your thoughts on the programme that's just aired on tv?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

In a word, unbelivable

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I'm just about to watch it on Plus 1.

I hope it's more than just poverty porn.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"I'm just about to watch it on Plus 1.

I hope it's more than just poverty porn.

same... just been watching the 7.39 so looking forward to it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As per usual, channel 4 spreading the governments propaganda message that all who claim benefits are the dregs of society .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

As someone from Brum I'm disgusted totally by it all. I know the street in question too and they haven't shown any of the decent residents that live there

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By *arlock69Man
over a year ago

Batley... (near Leeds)

It reminds me of the area I'm from...you do whatever you have to to survive...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What's your thoughts on the programme that's just aired on tv? "

I know right! I know!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As someone from Brum I'm disgusted totally by it all. I know the street in question too and they haven't shown any of the decent residents that live there "

To show the nice side wouldnt be in the governments interests. They want the division and hate this sort of programme causes

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"As someone from Brum I'm disgusted totally by it all. I know the street in question too and they haven't shown any of the decent residents that live there

To show the nice side wouldnt be in the governments interests. They want the division and hate this sort of programme causes

That's so sad yet so true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jeremy kyle for presidentio..Nuff said

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Why is the guy just out of prison showing how he is planning to shoplift? I may have to turn off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

id hate to live there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's comical. Usual druggys and alcoholics. Say they can't afford anything yet they have money for cans of lager and cigarettes and smart phones. There is far to many people in this country who want it all but don't want to work for it and think it's perfectly fine to have a load of kids and know they can't support them without a load of benefits

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I knew this show was going to air ages and ages ago...I just rolled my eyes....it makes me cringe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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There ya go....the governments job has been done .

Not everyone on that street live like that. Its a huge street but channel 4 neglected to show those.

Not all who live on benefits live like that, people like that are the minority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i know someone down that street who is had working and does 3 jobs and it shows what they want you to see

i had to turn it off a i would have damaged my tv

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I knew this show was going to air ages and ages ago...I just rolled my eyes....it makes me cringe "

makes two of us then lol

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Why is the guy just out of prison showing how he is planning to shoplift? I may have to turn off.

I just did.

Its not just the Government that like to show the seedy side of poverty - the media snaps it up too. And showing a guy just out of jail for shoplifting discussing what he's just nicked is just Channel 4 showing how 'edgy' they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As someone from Brum I'm disgusted totally by it all. I know the street in question too and they haven't shown any of the decent residents that live there

To show the nice side wouldnt be in the governments interests. They want the division and hate this sort of programme causes

maybe its because the decent people have to much pride than to strut themselves on such a show for a few quid, you cant make people go on the show

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The BBC did the same in my town a couple of years ago, asked permission to make a documentary about the 'warmth and community spirit' in the area...yea right! They focused on some of the 'characters' and made out the whole place was like this. The damage done to house prices and local investment was a disgrace but hey ....long as the BBC get their figures huh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why dont we leave our verdict on this untill the end of part two nxt week

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Why is the guy just out of prison showing how he is planning to shoplift? I may have to turn off.

I just did.

It really defeats the genuine cases of hardship when the storyline is shaped in this way.

Welfare Spending for 2011/12 was:

46% state pension

14% housing benefit

8% disability living allowance

5% pension credit

5% income support

4% incapacity benefit

3% attendance allowance

3% council tax benefits

3% jobseeker's allowance

2% winter fuel payments

2% employment support allowance

1% carer's allowance

1% statutory maternity pay

and 3% on other discretionary payments.

This sort of programme does nothing to reflect the experience of the majority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One Reason i havnt turned my Tv on for six months or Buy Newspapers

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

It is what it is propaganda TV...I was aware that this show was going to air and I've worked with many households on that street....

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By *egasus NobMan
over a year ago

Merton

"As someone from Brum I'm disgusted totally by it all. I know the street in question too and they haven't shown any of the decent residents that live there

To show the nice side wouldnt be in the governments interests. They want the division and hate this sort of programme causes

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"One Reason i havnt turned my Tv on for six months or Buy Newspapers"

There's no reason to watch NO telly just cos some (OK, quite a lot) of it's shite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I prefer Pigeon Street

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"As someone from Brum I'm disgusted totally by it all. I know the street in question too and they haven't shown any of the decent residents that live there "

Well of course not! Where's the political mileage in that? Showing people working their bollocks off, living decent lives yet struggling in the face of adversity caused by government policies would be detrimental. Show those living on the margins on benefits and bingo! Instant boogie man.

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

I haven't watched it yet, shall I hazard a guess that it's similar to what they did in Scunthorpe last year, just a different area?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it like Sesame Street for the feckless?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surprised at how defensive people are, and confused.

There are plenty of programmes on that represent other aspects of life - Secret Millionaire, Come Dine, Four in a Bed, Apprentice... loads!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Surprised at how defensive people are, and confused.

There are plenty of programmes on that represent other aspects of life - Secret Millionaire, Come Dine, Four in a Bed, Apprentice... loads! "

You miss the point. Where are the programmes showing the majority of benefit claimants; the honest ones, doing their best and struggling to survive? Benefit claimants always focus on the minority who take the mick and abuse the system.

It's propaganda and aimed at promoting hate and dividing society.

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By *andyblokeMan
over a year ago

birmingham

"As per usual, channel 4 spreading the governments propaganda message that all who claim benefits are the dregs of society .

i hadnt thought of it like that but now you mention it and you think about it it does reinforce prejuidices.

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By *andyblokeMan
over a year ago

birmingham

"Why is the guy just out of prison showing how he is planning to shoplift? I may have to turn off.

I just did.

It really defeats the genuine cases of hardship when the storyline is shaped in this way.

Welfare Spending for 2011/12 was:

46% state pension

14% housing benefit

8% disability living allowance

5% pension credit

5% income support

4% incapacity benefit

3% attendance allowance

3% council tax benefits

3% jobseeker's allowance

2% winter fuel payments

2% employment support allowance

1% carer's allowance

1% statutory maternity pay

and 3% on other discretionary payments.

This sort of programme does nothing to reflect the experience of the majority.

well put i like your statistics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surprised at how defensive people are, and confused.

There are plenty of programmes on that represent other aspects of life - Secret Millionaire, Come Dine, Four in a Bed, Apprentice... loads!

It's propaganda and aimed at promoting hate and dividing society."

I reckon if you delve a little, funding for this programme has come from high up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the people in it werent as bad as what i thought they would be but i did start to nod off towards the end of the program.

thing is, i dont always aprove of the way some people live their lives, but then again just because someone is hard working doesnt make me like them any more or think they are better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This

"As per usual, channel 4 spreading the governments propaganda message that all who claim benefits are the dregs of society .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So a question to the forum :- Who would travel to a meet in benefits street ?

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Friends with Benefits Street would be a much better programme, that's for sure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As per usual, channel 4 spreading the governments propaganda message that all who claim benefits are the dregs of society .

i hadnt thought of it like that but now you mention it and you think about it it does reinforce prejuidices."

Surely the BBC will do a programme, for balance, that shows feckless ponces of society in a good light?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

It hardly seems all those years since the right wingers were demonising the Jews for all the ills in society.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surprised at how defensive people are, and confused.

There are plenty of programmes on that represent other aspects of life - Secret Millionaire, Come Dine, Four in a Bed, Apprentice... loads!

It's propaganda and aimed at promoting hate and dividing society."

Bollocks. It's entertainment - and seemingly working. You can't complain when The Beast squeezes out shit if you keep feeding it.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I understand the tenants have put in a complaint regarding the show saying ch4 had misled them into believing it was about community spirit...i can somewhat believe that they were fed a bag of bollocks by Ch4

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like the community spirit on the street as it is lacking in most areas, but I do get the hint that it could be editted Heavily.

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By *ecor atorMan
over a year ago

York

Round up the cheats and shit, move the decent folk out and bomb shit out of the place!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As per usual, channel 4 spreading the governments propaganda message that all who claim benefits are the dregs of society .

Agreed.

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

I haven't seen the program. But the dregs of society need to be exposed. I just hope they watch it and feel ashamed. But I fear they won't. Some people can't be changed. Send them to poland in exchange for the hard working people who have come from there. That might be the shake up they need

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I understand the tenants have put in a complaint regarding the show saying ch4 had misled them into believing it was about community spirit...i can somewhat believe that they were fed a bag of bollocks by Ch4 "

I didn't watch so can't comment on the programme specifically but other shows suggest there's nothing some folk won't do to get on the telly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As someone from Brum I'm disgusted totally by it all. I know the street in question too and they haven't shown any of the decent residents that live there

To show the nice side wouldnt be in the governments interests. They want the division and hate this sort of programme causes

There's also a good chance the 'decent' folk didn't want to be associated with the area...and maybe refused to comment?

Seems like a kinda normal street to me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Round up the cheats and shit, move the decent folk out and bomb shit out of the place!"

It was reported today that "people" ...have suggested that "those shown" last night need to be killed.....really !!!

Why not go the whole hog and euthanise anyone on benefits, be it the elderly,disabled etc......one step away from hitlers plan ....great

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Round up the cheats and shit, move the decent folk out and bomb shit out of the place!

It was reported today that "people" ...have suggested that "those shown" last night need to be killed.....really !!!

Why not go the whole hog and euthanise anyone on benefits, be it the elderly,disabled etc......one step away from hitlers plan ....great

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really dislike these politics that concentrate on the minority and extreme cases. No one likes to see people taking advantage of the welfare system but I would rather have a system than not and no system can be perfect. Even worse, if I am not careful, I find myself getting carried away with it too. And then I wake up.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Round up the cheats and shit, move the decent folk out and bomb shit out of the place!

It was reported today that "people" ...have suggested that "those shown" last night need to be killed.....really !!!

Why not go the whole hog and euthanise anyone on benefits, be it the elderly,disabled etc......one step away from hitlers plan ....great

Don't be giving IDS ideas (not that he needs them).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Round up the cheats and shit, move the decent folk out and bomb shit out of the place!

It was reported today that "people" ...have suggested that "those shown" last night need to be killed.....really !!!

Why not go the whole hog and euthanise anyone on benefits, be it the elderly,disabled etc......one step away from hitlers plan ....great

Well I doubt it as surely they would have been actors or something? Or was it undercover work? It is disgusting that people do that and they should be removed from society. Maybe get them to work in a prison to earn their keep or clean crap off the streets.

That's the thing with benefits its a generalised thing for several reasons why people don't work. What they should do is list the reasons. For example physically/mentally disabled, they retired, temporally Ill, etc. Then work it out. People with certain illnesses can never work. Some can do certain jobs. So maybe help them find that job constantly and give them enough benefits to live off and people who go to sign on regularly who are fit, healthy and aren't looking for work. Crack down on them.

Instead they just think. "Lets reduce £50 million down to £10 million spent on benefits and they just reduce everyone by a certain percentage. Despite people having different needs or people being genuine.

I live in a town that's full of it and people say "its everywhere, not just here", but what they don't understand is. Its about the same amount of people here doing it as there is in other cities. Yet we are a small town. So its more noticeable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Government did'nt film it , why are you blaming them for the so called biased towards the people shown on the programme ?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I think those bashing people on benefits....should remember it may happen to you...I've known people earn £100,000 loose everything and end up on the streets...We are not all immune from falling on hard times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The Government did'nt film it , why are you blaming them for the so called biased towards the people shown on the programme ?"

The government will gladly fund programmes like this everytime. They want to divide and conquer . Even news stations...bbc. itv etc are not allowed to report protests about the bedroom tax etc. Its going on..........all over the country but do you see it when you watch the evening news ? no you dont.

The tories have always had the "landlord and serf" mentality and always will.

I didnt like thatcher but i doubt even she would have done what osborne or ian dipshit smith have done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think those bashing people on benefits....should remember it may happen to you...I've known people earn £100,000 loose everything and end up on the streets...We are not all immune from falling on hard times. "

Very true

And people forget that too easily

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"The Government did'nt film it , why are you blaming them for the so called biased towards the people shown on the programme ?

The tories have always had the "landlord and serf" mentality and always will.

I didnt like thatcher but i doubt even she would have done what osborne or ian dipshit smith have done

She started it all by selling off the social housing stock. I have no doubt she'd have lost no sleep over doing the same.

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By *ecor atorMan
over a year ago

York

"Round up the cheats and shit, move the decent folk out and bomb shit out of the place!

It was reported today that "people" ...have suggested that "those shown" last night need to be killed.....really !!!

Why not go the whole hog and euthanise anyone on benefits, be it the elderly,disabled etc......one step away from hitlers plan ....great

No just the scum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This thread has brought future thoughts/memories of the upcoming weeks

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

Reminds me of the show not so long ago about swingers! Now if that was sposed to be how swingers are,( dear Lord!!!!) and lets face it how all of us here can be portrayed, then lets be fair! Not every one who claims money for what ever reason are like this! Yet again , misconceptions and makes a tv show that is laughable if not total crap! Walk a mile in others shoes before they are judged, for what is on tv is often far from factual.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven't seen the program. But the dregs of society need to be exposed. I just hope they watch it and feel ashamed. But I fear they won't. Some people can't be changed. Send them to poland in exchange for the hard working people who have come from there. That might be the shake up they need"
yeh right u may find alot of british people have given up on their country because of this attitude foriegn workers r better, so not the cas

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Have a search for the info-graphic from Policy Exchange on the "Welfare related annually managed expenditure forecast 2013/14 forecast"

It puts things into perspective.

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

Need to know basis

"What's your thoughts on the programme that's just aired on tv? "

Voyeurism at its worst!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"What's your thoughts on the programme that's just aired on tv?

Voyeurism at its worst! "

As I said earlier, I didn't see the programme but I'm guessing nobody was forced to participate or perform in a way they didn't want to.

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

Need to know basis

"What's your thoughts on the programme that's just aired on tv?

Voyeurism at its worst!

As I said earlier, I didn't see the programme but I'm guessing nobody was forced to participate or perform in a way they didn't want to.

I have not and will not watch it either. I do hope that those who participated got their money's worth!

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

watching it now, what an awefull program

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"watching it now, what an awefull program"
wait till nxt weeks, welcome to england

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have not and will not watch it either. I do hope that those who participated got their money's worth!"

I think that's kind of the issue..

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

Don't hate the poor and disenfranchised

Hate the people who keep them there !

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

"Don't hate the poor and disenfranchised

Hate the people who keep them there !"
there is only one person to blame if your poor. Yourself. Its really not that hard to make money honestly in this world. I've been poor but it was my fault. Its time people stopped expecting others to sort their problems out for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't hate the poor and disenfranchised

Hate the people who keep them there !there is only one person to blame if your poor. Yourself. Its really not that hard to make money honestly in this world. I've been poor but it was my fault. Its time people stopped expecting others to sort their problems out for them. "

Oh i do apologise for being presently disabled....i forgot it was my fault

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't hate the poor and disenfranchised

That's your opinion, and of course valid from your point of _iew. but in reality, education, and nurturing plays a part in poverty. not everyone has your logical approach to things, or the opportunities you have made for yourself.

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

"Don't hate the poor and disenfranchised

Oh i do apologise for being presently disabled....i forgot it was my fault

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my father is very disabled in fact quadriplegic he still worked tho

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

"Don't hate the poor and disenfranchised

very true, people need the get up and go to make themselves a better life, i dont know the answers but our benifit culture dosent help

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"As someone from Brum I'm disgusted totally by it all. I know the street in question too and they haven't shown any of the decent residents that live there

To show the nice side wouldnt be in the governments interests. They want the division and hate this sort of programme causes

Did the Government make this programme or fund it ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did the Government make this programme or fund it ?"

You can blame anything on the Government. Saves having to take responsibility yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That programme was hilarious, but for all the wrong reasons! But I did have to laugh at the lady with £300 rent areas who is unemployed but managed to have an I phone, have cigarettes, a massive plasma screen on the wall and furniture that was pretty decent!

I'm not sure what they are going to fill the remaining four episodes with though... Hopefully not more of that crap!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That programme was hilarious, but for all the wrong reasons! But I did have to laugh at the lady with £300 rent areas who is unemployed but managed to have an I phone, have cigarettes, a massive plasma screen on the wall and furniture that was pretty decent!

I'm not sure what they are going to fill the remaining four episodes with though... Hopefully not more of that crap!"

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Well a positive came out of it....50p man was offered a job as a result of the show

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Well a positive came out of it....50p man was offered a job as a result of the show

Ohhhhhhh what as ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well a positive came out of it....50p man was offered a job as a result of the show

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. Oh bless him! Least he was doing somthing to try and help and pay his own bills unlike most of them were.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

I'm not sure what they are going to fill the remaining four episodes with though... Hopefully not more of that crap!"

I didn't see it, but maybe she wasn't always unemployed?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Well a positive came out of it....50p man was offered a job as a result of the show

Ohhhhhhh what as ?"

not sure...

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over a year ago

I'm not sure what they are going to fill the remaining four episodes with though... Hopefully not more of that crap!

I didn't see it, but maybe she wasn't always unemployed?

That could well be the case she could have fallen on hard times through no fault of her own .I always think that people in glass houses should be careful as one day circumstances may well change for them and they may well be the person with large house tv's pc's etc etc but no income. x

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

"Well a positive came out of it....50p man was offered a job as a result of the show

Ohhhhhhh what as ?

not sure..."

the one person on the show prepaired to go out and try to earn some money, not just sitting at home moaning, good luck to him, its a shame more on the show dont have his get up and go

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By *atelotmanMan
over a year ago

Chatham

"Round up the cheats and shit, move the decent folk out and bomb shit out of the place!

It was reported today that "people" ...have suggested that "those shown" last night need to be killed.....really !!!

Why not go the whole hog and euthanise anyone on benefits, be it the elderly,disabled etc......one step away from hitlers plan ....great

God that's` me done for Im on benefits.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Didn't watch it

No intention of watching it

Although I have no fondness towards the minority of people cheating the system, I see no benefit in watching the hard times of others struggling in a tough world.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"As someone from Brum I'm disgusted totally by it all. I know the street in question too and they haven't shown any of the decent residents that live there

To show the nice side wouldnt be in the governments interests. They want the division and hate this sort of programme causes

Did the Government make this programme or fund it ?"

Only in so far as the public subsidy for Ch4 is concerned. The director and production company pitched a popular idea and as Ch4 has been dealing in poverty porn for the last year they would have snapped it up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sadly, far too many people are now spoon-fed their world _iew through the Television - an opiate for the masses which is subject to the editorialising of the few.

'Moral outrage and opinion from the comfort of the living room' sums up the 'vox populi' in this day and age. Defining a _iew of the world is as easy as hitting 'Share' on Facebook.

Objective journalism is almost dead in this country.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Sadly, far too many people are now spoon-fed their world _iew through the Television - an opiate for the masses which is subject to the editorialising of the few.

'Moral outrage and opinion from the comfort of the living room' sums up the 'vox populi' in this day and age. Defining a _iew of the world is as easy as hitting 'Share' on Facebook.

Objective journalism is almost dead in this country.

Even when we see good journalism, particularly on television, the trailer is presented in a sensational way. They hype about the Nick Robinson programme on immigration would make you think it would be slamming all immigration and it didn't do that at all. Even the way it featured on the BBC News made it look like it would be concluding all immigration bad.

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"As someone from Brum I'm disgusted totally by it all. I know the street in question too and they haven't shown any of the decent residents that live there

To show the nice side wouldnt be in the governments interests. They want the division and hate this sort of programme causes

Did the Government make this programme or fund it ?

We were ask to shoot the Dogging prog Channel 4 done last year as was a few more producers, as they edit the footage into mindless crap we all said a firm no.

They did find some joker who produced a 60 min prog looking more like "The Blair Witch Project" rather than a film on UK dogging lol!

Never do a TV show, Newspaper artical or Magazine story as they will twist it to their own means.

A lot of the footage you will see in this prog will be done in between the main shoots...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't hate the poor and disenfranchised

Spoken like a true Tory

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank god we have a Government who are prepared to deal with Benefit and Welfare payments. £26,000 pa is more than generous for any person or family on Benefit. Hopefully the Government will look at other areas of Welfare payments soon so that they can be trimmed in order to deal with the UK's financial crisis.

I watched a program the other day where a young couple of 17 were living on Benefit in a Council House. They were being supported by the State. That is immoral and a waste of taxpayers money. However George Osborn has recently announced that Housing Benefit will be stopped for those under 25 which should deal with that problem.

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By *hemissinglinkMan
over a year ago

Greatt Barr

It was my city featured on this programme.

I see a lot of mention of the poverty and criminals. WHAT ABOUT 50p MAN?? He is a legend and totally represents what England's community spirit is all about.

Three cheers for 50p man

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

Have to admit i spent most of it with my mouth open , can't believe that's how they live, editing is always going to put any tv show in a certain light, gotta say i thought the 50p man was very kind hearted !

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

"Don't hate the poor and disenfranchised

Spoken like a true Tory "
no spoken by someone with self respect

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By *hemissinglinkMan
over a year ago

Greatt Barr

"Have to admit i spent most of it with my mouth open , can't believe that's how they live, editing is always going to put any tv show in a certain light, gotta say i thought the 50p man was very kind hearted !"

Yesssss. 50p man is a legend. He was offered a full time job. Legend.

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

Yesssss. 50p man is a legend. He was offered a full time job. Legend. "

Really, oh that's good, what job has he been offered ? It's good to see that even in the mess he was in he got off his ass and went and got his own thing !

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I don't agree with the proposed housing benefit stop for under 25's...not ever 25 year old is going to live with parents or have friends or relatives that they can stay with..I assume that there will be those that fall into certain categories that will be eligible off housing benefit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well a positive came out of it....50p man was offered a job as a result of the show

Wasn't he claiming job seekers though and also running a business.

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over a year ago

Im on benefits dont want to be at all looking for a job but it hard to find up here yeah its hard very hard to live sometimes but we are really trying to find job i dont know why that programme showed people on benefits live like that we are doing our best we have clean house and dont live like tramps or drink or drugs our kids get what they need even if means we go without

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"Im on benefits dont want to be at all looking for a job but it hard to find up here yeah its hard very hard to live sometimes but we are really trying to find job i dont know why that programme showed people on benefits live like that we are doing our best we have clean house and dont live like tramps or drink or drugs our kids get what they need even if means we go without"
good for you and good luck dont let the judgemental twats bring you down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't hate the poor and disenfranchised

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Il try not to but them programmes people put us all in that picture

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was brought up not far from there and can say with conviction that is rxactly how life is all of of the inner coties of Britain today an underclass of society that does not register with middle England under the radar and forced to earn of Robbin and dealing because they have poorly educated and generally rejected and ignored in this I'm alright jack society we live most people don't even know this level of society exists life is very hard in the ghettos

Loved it!

Jay xxxx

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Well a positive came out of it....50p man was offered a job as a result of the show

Wasn't he claiming job seekers though and also running a business. "

He was on JSA and it was stopped as they felt that he was not doing enough to look for work..there are reports he has been offered a few jobs. Good on him

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"I was brought up not far from there and can say with conviction that is rxactly how life is all of of the inner coties of Britain today an underclass of society that does not register with middle England under the radar and forced to earn of Robbin and dealing because they have poorly educated and generally rejected and ignored in this I'm alright jack society we live most people don't even know this level of society exists life is very hard in the ghettos

Loved it!

Jay xxxx

I was brought up in the "ghetto" and far from poorly educated and never dealt drugs...I think it's a very sweeping statement you are making there...that everyone from inner cities are poorly educated criminals.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Loved it!

Jay xxxx

Life is what you make it....some strive to succeed some don't...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well a positive came out of it....50p man was offered a job as a result of the show

Wasn't he claiming job seekers though and also running a business.

He was on JSA and it was stopped as they felt that he was not doing enough to look for work..there are reports he has been offered a few jobs. Good on him

We'll it should have been stopped as he was working. He should have been registered as self employed and if able to get a top up from other benefits then he should of done. He was working at the end of the day. I bet any money he earnt wasn't declared either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well a positive came out of it....50p man was offered a job as a result of the show

Wasn't he claiming job seekers though and also running a business. "

A business?? I bet he barely made enough money to cover his costs

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By *andyblokeMan
over a year ago

birmingham

Loved it!

Jay xxxx

cool.

they are as far from middle england as the bankers bonus's and the "city".. Both are on different planets to the rest of the uk.Sadly one is on palnet skint and the other on planet greed and me me me

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Well a positive came out of it....50p man was offered a job as a result of the show

Wasn't he claiming job seekers though and also running a business.

He was on JSA and it was stopped as they felt that he was not doing enough to look for work..there are reports he has been offered a few jobs. Good on him

I don't know the ins and outs of his job seekers claim what he did do and what he didn't do...however now he won't have to rely on JSA no longer...

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Well a positive came out of it....50p man was offered a job as a result of the show

Wasn't he claiming job seekers though and also running a business.

A business?? I bet he barely made enough money to cover his costs "

He probably only earned a couple of quid at the most...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The 50p man was selling stuff along with claiming...hence his benefits were stopped. Im waiting for those who will now string him up for doing both.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well a positive came out of it....50p man was offered a job as a result of the show

Wasn't he claiming job seekers though and also running a business.

A business?? I bet he barely made enough money to cover his costs "

Yes a business. Regardless of wether me was making £1 a week or £10k a week he was still running a business and working. There is plenty of business out there that are making a loss or making very little. So does that mean they should be entitled to claim jsa. Of course they shouldn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agreed, i have have suceeded in spite if my start in life however some of those people just do not know who to better themselves because they haveno positive role models! I dont make excuses for layabouts and dossers and i hate pepole muggin off the benifit system asmuch as the next man! Jay xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can work and clIm benifits uf your earning dont meet the living standard jay xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What i can say is the vast majority of criminals in jail are from dreprived areas jayxxxx i never judge or generlise as stated i am from where they are from and im a successful professional but i ciuld have been one of those characters just as easily jayxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can work and clIm benifits uf your earning dont meet the living standard jay xxx

Not job seekers though.

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By *hemissinglinkMan
over a year ago

Greatt Barr

Yesssss. 50p man is a legend. He was offered a full time job. Legend.

Really, oh that's good, what job has he been offered ? It's good to see that even in the mess he was in he got off his ass and went and got his own thing !"

He was offered a job s a driver delivering food supplies. He's well over the moon. 3 offers came in altogether. He actually had a choice of careers. So happy for him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yesssss. 50p man is a legend. He was offered a full time job. Legend.

Really, oh that's good, what job has he been offered ? It's good to see that even in the mess he was in he got off his ass and went and got his own thing !

He was offered a job s a driver delivering food supplies. He's well over the moon. 3 offers came in altogether. He actually had a choice of careers. So happy for him

Nice one

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"Im on benefits dont want to be at all looking for a job but it hard to find up here yeah its hard very hard to live sometimes but we are really trying to find job i dont know why that programme showed people on benefits live like that we are doing our best we have clean house and dont live like tramps or drink or drugs our kids get what they need even if means we go withoutgood for you and good luck dont let the judgemental twats bring you down "

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

Loved it!

Jay xxxx

Life is what you make it....some strive to succeed some don't..."

That's right i was brought up in West Ham where it was high crime like Salford, 3 of my ex mates are serving life for serious crimes & it was so easy to go down the same path but i got out & changed my life around.

John

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

Loved it!

Jay xxxx

Life is what you make it....some strive to succeed some don't...

John

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well done you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surprised

Where are the programmes showing the majority of

benefit claimants; the honest ones, doing their best and struggling to

survive? Benefit claimants always focus on the minority who take the

mick and abuse the system.

It's propaganda and aimed at promoting hate and dividing

society."

Well said! it's propoganda that nfortunatly seems to be working.. i just hope there's a follow up to address the imbalance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I watched the full programme last night and I can't understand people's problem.

These people, and others like them, really are out there. Is it shock that's the case, or just that it's been revealed to the Channel 4 audience?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

haven't seen the program. But the dregs of society need to be exposed. I

just hope they watch it and feel ashamed. But I fear they won't. Some

people can't be changed. Send them to poland in exchange for the hard

working people who have come from there. That might be the shake up they

need"

there's hard working brits who cant get a job.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I watched the full programme last night and I can't understand people's problem.

These people, and others like them, really are out there. Is it shock that's the case, or just that it's been revealed to the Channel 4 audience?"

In the end we all know there's people abusingthe system like this. And that the majority of those who are on benefits have genuine and legitimate reasons.

In the end its down to what will pull in the _iewing figures. People are more interested in what the minority abusing the system than those who aren't. And as long as people watch these things the more they'll make em. I can't see that it has anything to do with politics. It's all about the _iewing figures.

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

I watched it last night. I found it similar to Skint they aired last year.

Now I grew up in Scunthorpe, where Skint was filmed. I dragged myself out of the gutter, and made something of myself. Not a great something to some, but I did it by myself, because I wanted to.

A lot of people slagged off those on Skint, mainly out of fear, I think. I just sat there, and thought 'there but for the grace of God'.

Statistics show that the majority of us are 3 months away from being homeless. A fact I never forget, and never look down on those doing what they have to to survive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I watched the full programme last night and I can't understand people's problem.

These people, and others like them, really are out there. Is it shock that's the case, or just that it's been revealed to the Channel 4 audience?"

I think the shock is that its this minority that are portrayed as the majority on benefits leading to all being tarred with the same brush.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The 50p man was selling stuff along with claiming...hence his benefits were stopped. Im waiting for those who will now string him up for doing both.

And he was giving gear for free when he felt sorry for others harder off. But yea lets take what dignity he had away to satisfy the daily mail baying for his 72 quid a week back. Poor bloke. Let tthe toffs keep their heads in the trough but damn ordinary people like him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I watched the full programme last night and I can't understand people's problem.

These people, and others like them, really are out there. Is it shock that's the case, or just that it's been revealed to the Channel 4 audience?

I think the shock is that its this minority that are portrayed as the majority on benefits leading to all being tarred with the same brush. "

I don't see that they were portrayed as anything other than themselves. The rest is down to peoples own interpretation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The 50p man was selling stuff along with claiming...hence his benefits were stopped. Im waiting for those who will now string him up for doing both.

He was comiting benefit fraud at the end of the day so he should have his benefits stopped and looked in to and any money that has been over paid he should have to pay back. Funny how because he has done one nice kind act which has been shown on tv that people seem to think ifs fine to commit benefit fraud.

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"I watched it last night. I found it similar to Skint they aired last year.

Now I grew up in Scunthorpe, where Skint was filmed. I dragged myself out of the gutter, and made something of myself. Not a great something to some, but I did it by myself, because I wanted to.

A lot of people slagged off those on Skint, mainly out of fear, I think. I just sat there, and thought 'there but for the grace of God'.

Statistics show that the majority of us are 3 months away from being homeless. A fact I never forget, and never look down on those doing what they have to to survive. "

You are so right with what you say because a good friend of ours had everything a good job a home in the country & a lovely Jag, he lost his job & then lost his whole life & ended up sofa surfing before getting a bedsit.

He has a job now but its a fraction of what he used to earn so he is still in his bedsit worrying about how to pay the gas & electric, no job is safe these days...

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"The 50p man was selling stuff along with claiming...hence his benefits were stopped. Im waiting for those who will now string him up for doing both.

Like any animals we do what we do to survive, we might not like it but unless we are where they are we can't knock them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The 50p man was selling stuff along with claiming...hence his benefits were stopped. Im waiting for those who will now string him up for doing both.

Every day many thousands of people commit fraud in business, from the managing directors of the biggest companies, to starts of stage and screen, just take a look at any company that has its accounts on line, and you will see tax avoidance, tax evasion and scams, anything from people being given new cars, houses, holidays, mobile phones, sponsorship of racing cars, race horses, football teams.

I know that crime is crime, weather it be someone taking a biro from work, using the work phone for a personal call, using work paper or stamps, to a billion pound fraud.

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"The 50p man was selling stuff along with claiming...hence his benefits were stopped. Im waiting for those who will now string him up for doing both.

I know that crime is crime, weather it be someone taking a biro from work, using the work phone for a personal call, using work paper or stamps, to a billion pound fraud.

But to fall into the trap of focusing on one guy who breaks jars of coffee and pkts of sugar into 50p affordable "luxuries for people with very little money, seems pointless and you have been pulled into the trap the programme makers were aiming for."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The BBC did the same in my town a couple of years ago, asked permission to make a documentary about the 'warmth and community spirit' in the area...yea right! They focused on some of the 'characters' and made out the whole place was like this. The damage done to house prices and local investment was a disgrace but hey ....long as the BBC get their figures huh.

haha the scheme. I pumped a wee burd off that 2 year back up lane next to pavillion lol she was in walkabout on a do and to be honest she was pretty tidy lol ill no mention her cos shes got a bf but different guy fae on the show. Just as wee though haha theres a hint.

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

All these progs have a set audience they will captivate to push stereo type beliefs for their backers & works, the people it's aimed at will fall for it believing because they have seen this it must be true on the whole status quo for people on benefits...clever editing works wonders.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

If everyone worked you'd have LESS.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Bent over a wheelie bin? It was on YouTube.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah haaaaa ...it wasnt "big di" but "black di"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like the community spirit on the street as it is lacking in most areas, but I do get the hint that it could be editted Heavily."

I don't think there is community spirit. They like to pretend to themselves there is but believe me, they would screw each other over in a heartbeat. I lived in a place like that. And any community spirit is extremely clicky.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i read today i think that white dee as she calls herself was convicted for fraud when working for birmingham council

i dont think they have done themselves any favours bragging about defrauding their benefits and showing you how to rob in high street shops

i bet there is an increase in traffic up that road

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Might as well go back to 3 channels n close down at midnight the rubbish thats on,'reality'or not,shows pretending to be entertainment?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As someone from Brum I'm disgusted totally by it all. I know the street in question too and they haven't shown any of the decent residents that live there "

But decent people don't make good _iewing figures!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The 50p man was selling stuff along with claiming...hence his benefits were stopped. Im waiting for those who will now string him up for doing both.

I know that crime is crime, weather it be someone taking a biro from work, using the work phone for a personal call, using work paper or stamps, to a billion pound fraud.

here here

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"The 50p man was selling stuff along with claiming...hence his benefits were stopped. Im waiting for those who will now string him up for doing both.

I know that crime is crime, weather it be someone taking a biro from work, using the work phone for a personal call, using work paper or stamps, to a billion pound fraud.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The 50p man was selling stuff along with claiming...hence his benefits were stopped. Im waiting for those who will now string him up for doing both.

I know that crime is crime, weather it be someone taking a biro from work, using the work phone for a personal call, using work paper or stamps, to a billion pound fraud.

That's so true. I'll remember that.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"i read today i think that white dee as she calls herself was convicted for fraud when working for birmingham council

i dont think they have done themselves any favours bragging about defrauding their benefits and showing you how to rob in high street shops

i bet there is an increase in traffic up that road "

She stole £13000 from Birmingham city council...the money was meant to be for vulnerable people....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i read today i think that white dee as she calls herself was convicted for fraud when working for birmingham council

i dont think they have done themselves any favours bragging about defrauding their benefits and showing you how to rob in high street shops

i bet there is an increase in traffic up that road

She stole £13000 from Birmingham city council...the money was meant to be for vulnerable people...."

wow........

thats about the same amount my council have stolen off me in bedroom tax

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why are a lot of people going on about it going on in Birmingham? It happens everywhere

. I think the Government, the law and DWP are all wrong when it comes to handing out benefits as the decisions they make don't make any sense at all and genuine people who have worked for many years tend to suffer and people who refuse to work gain a lot

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"i read today i think that white dee as she calls herself was convicted for fraud when working for birmingham council

i dont think they have done themselves any favours bragging about defrauding their benefits and showing you how to rob in high street shops

i bet there is an increase in traffic up that road

She stole £13000 from Birmingham city council...the money was meant to be for vulnerable people....

wow........

thats about the same amount my council have stolen off me in bedroom tax

It's not the councils who brought in bedroom tax it was the government...councils and social housing are only carrying out what was brought in by the government...so really they have not stolen anything..you may find that a lot don't agree with bedroom tax within the housing sector

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But.........i may be getting it all back

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"But.........i may be getting it all back

We'll then that's good...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But.........i may be getting it all back

We'll then that's good..."

i love loopholes

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By *ev-PMan
over a year ago

Hampshire

"Why are a lot of people going on about it going on in Birmingham? It happens everywhere

well said that man

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"i read today i think that white dee as she calls herself was convicted for fraud when working for birmingham council

i dont think they have done themselves any favours bragging about defrauding their benefits and showing you how to rob in high street shops

i bet there is an increase in traffic up that road

She stole £13000 from Birmingham city council...the money was meant to be for vulnerable people....

wow........

thats about the same amount my council have stolen off me in bedroom tax

£13,000 in lost bedroom tax in less than a year? More than £1,000 a month reduction in housing benefit for having more bedrooms than you 'need'?

That must be some rent.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Well I work and have had to fork out nearly 2 grand so I'm not homeless....I get fuck all to help me but hey ho...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's face facts british people have stuffed up our country and politicians r the worst offenders

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"Let's face facts british people have stuffed up our country and politicians r the worst offenders"

don't be so hard on yourself, we don't blame you

and the people who voted the people into power and the people who couldnt be arsed to vote or stand up for anything better........ and so on and so on.

yup, it's always somebody else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

you get the same shit whoever you vote in these days. thats why people have become so disillusioned with the voting system and would rather give it a miss

cookie cutter MP`s and leaders alike

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its true, we winge about a sniffle,r to lazy to work for minimum wage, and applaud our troops for sorting out the worldwide shit whilst voting in a government that allows an Invasion ,didn't we fight two wars to stop foriegn invasion, I am not racist but, how many unemployed brits wud travel to 4/5 countries to find work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"you get the same shit whoever you vote in these days. thats why people have become so disillusioned with the voting system and would rather give it a miss

cookie cutter MP`s and leaders alike

"
I thought ukip would b a good bet till farage denied sayin britain was full

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its true, we winge about a sniffle,r to lazy to work for minimum wage, and applaud our troops for sorting out the worldwide shit whilst voting in a government that allows an Invasion ,didn't we fight two wars to stop foriegn invasion, I am not racist but, how many unemployed brits wud travel to 4/5 countries to find work "

I'm not part of the 'we'. I don't think too many are.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I'm not part of the 'we'. I don't think too many are."

There's a good 'we' too. There's the we that work collectively because together we are stronger.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not part of the 'we'. I don't think too many are.

There's a good 'we' too. There's the we that work collectively because together we are stronger."
and your we are?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The majority of the country!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As someone from Brum I'm disgusted totally by it all. I know the street in question too and they haven't shown any of the decent residents that live there

To show the nice side wouldnt be in the governments interests. They want the division and hate this sort of programme causes

maybe its because the decent people have to much pride than to strut themselves on such a show for a few quid, you cant make people go on the show"

They didn't go looking for decent people in the first place. If they did, the reaction (by the general public) would be different and all they would see is decent people struggling and we know that. The difference is we wouldn't be angry about it...or we'd be angry towards the wrong people.

Here's something for you to think about:

On the day the show launched, George Osborne laid plans to cut £10bn from the welfare budget.

Now of course this is just a coincidence but with the show stirring up so much animosity, do we agree with him?

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

If you read the Independent & other various papers you will see a lot of Benefit Street was staged by the producers, the sofas outside were collected from outside the street to give the image they wanted & they paid for all the beer,fags seen on the prog.

The Channel 4 boss could face the chop as its coming on top that it was set up for government propaganda, check out the links below as it makes interesting reading.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2537074/Benefits-Street-residents-claim-

TV-bosses-bribed-beer-cigarettes-McDonalds-12-hour-day-filming.html

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/01/in-defence-of-channel-4s-benefitsstreet/

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/a543116/benefits-street-essential-documentaryor-

poverty-porn.html

http://tompride.wordpress.com/2014/01/06/threats-of-death-and-violence-afterchannel-

4-programme-benefits-street/

http://tv.uk.msn.com/features/benefits-street-thousands-sign-petition-against-channel-

4-show

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's all just one big conspiracy!

Who'd have thought?...

Heads down, eyes down, carry on, keep quiet..

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