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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

will not finish in the top 4 agree or disagree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well outside...possibly 7th

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"will not finish in the top 4 agree or disagree"

Agree most of the teams above united at the moment have strengthened and improved but united lack the discipline so can't see them finishing top 4

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

27yrs of success destroyed in 6 months..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"27yrs of success destroyed in 6 months.. "

True

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By *irtydanMan
over a year ago

Blackpool

he knew what he was doing alex did

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By *uthTVDerbysTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

It'd all to do with whether the Premier League Mafia allow it or not.

The Championship has to be sen to be a competition otherwise the mugs who watch it will realise it's fixed and won't go any more and won't spend their pennies.

Once a team that obviously should walk away with the title due to having the most cash on their coffers is seen to be getting a bit too much of a lead. Then the 'firm' gently remind them to tell it back a bit to let those below them catch up.

So it's not a choice thing but a matter of business practices. Look at Celtic in the SPL. They should win every year til the end of time with their resources. But oddly. They don't. Fancy that!

I should add here I have no interest in football whatsoever but see things from a bystanders viewpoint and to me. It's all a bit of fiddle.

I call it Thugs. Watched by Mugs. And millionaire thugs at that.

We ar simply hosts to an international field of 'talented' individuals and it's a case of who buys best wins. There no loyalty or local connections.

Well you did ask!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They will if they re-sign Paul Scholes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Won't win FA cup that's for sure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Disagree!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They used to say whoever finished above UTD would win the title...that can't apply to all of the 6 teams that will this year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Disagree! "

What part do you disagree with ?

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

Never write man utd off

If any team can pull back from a shaky start we can

They won't win it this year but will make champions league !

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

Agree, and it's hilarious

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By *arlock69Man
over a year ago

Batley... (near Leeds)

Hope they get relegated!!...

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By *etanreadyCouple
over a year ago

dover


"Agree, and it's hilarious "

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By *cldnCouple
over a year ago

watford

Agree and if the dont get the CL spot they will freefall. And no one likes to see that, do they? Lol

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By *himanMan
over a year ago

chichester

Dont think there finish in the prem there that crap !!

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By *rynewMan
over a year ago

warrington


"6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team. "

The fact is that team that won the league last year is the same team that David Moyes took over. The only difference between last year and this year is the manager!! oh and that big haired buffoon.

Simply the current manager does not have the respect of the dressing room. Moyes has won nothing, played his football in lower leagues and generally not achieved anything as a player or a manager. Ferguson was successful before he took over at united and therefore despite an initial poor run had the backing and respect of the dressing room throughout his career.

This is a simple fact of a man with no bollocks, no backbone, and no history in charge of a very successful group of international players who have no reason to give the man the repect.

Now before I get slaughtered by every glory hunting united fan whos profiles will probably say they are from outside the area I am not a united fan nor a city fan I am simply a true football fan with no biased towards the clubs involved.

Will stand here blindfolded waiting for someone to fire the first shots!

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire


"6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team.

The fact is that team that won the league last year is the same team that David Moyes took over. The only difference between last year and this year is the manager!! oh and that big haired buffoon.

Simply the current manager does not have the respect of the dressing room. Moyes has won nothing, played his football in lower leagues and generally not achieved anything as a player or a manager. Ferguson was successful before he took over at united and therefore despite an initial poor run had the backing and respect of the dressing room throughout his career.

This is a simple fact of a man with no bollocks, no backbone, and no history in charge of a very successful group of international players who have no reason to give the man the repect.

Now before I get slaughtered by every glory hunting united fan whos profiles will probably say they are from outside the area I am not a united fan nor a city fan I am simply a true football fan with no biased towards the clubs involved.

Will stand here blindfolded waiting for someone to fire the first shots!"

For someone who despises man utd you seem to know an awful lot

I hate Liverpool with a passion and for that reason I wouldn't entertain a forum lost with their name mentioned in it

Just goes to show that the ABU's are still around and talking nonsense once again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i dont understand football.. but if the players havent changed then why are they so shite compared to when fergie left?

surely its the players fault they are on the pitch?

please enlighten me on more details

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

United have failed to attract the big end players and dare I say managers. Moyle's is basically building a make shift Everton team! Fergie did not hit the ground running and was in a similar position when he first took over but he was not afraid to make big decisions and demanded respect! Write this season off I can see a drout of trophies ahead.

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By *rynewMan
over a year ago

warrington


"6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team.

The fact is that team that won the league last year is the same team that David Moyes took over. The only difference between last year and this year is the manager!! oh and that big haired buffoon.

Simply the current manager does not have the respect of the dressing room. Moyes has won nothing, played his football in lower leagues and generally not achieved anything as a player or a manager. Ferguson was successful before he took over at united and therefore despite an initial poor run had the backing and respect of the dressing room throughout his career.

This is a simple fact of a man with no bollocks, no backbone, and no history in charge of a very successful group of international players who have no reason to give the man the repect.

Now before I get slaughtered by every glory hunting united fan whos profiles will probably say they are from outside the area I am not a united fan nor a city fan I am simply a true football fan with no biased towards the clubs involved.

Will stand here blindfolded waiting for someone to fire the first shots!

For someone who despises man utd you seem to know an awful lot

I hate Liverpool with a passion and for that reason I wouldn't entertain a forum lost with their name mentioned in it

Just goes to show that the ABU's are still around and talking nonsense once again "

Fact 1 - I am not a Liverpool fan

Fact 2 - I know what im talking about cause I get paid to write about football

Fact 3 - David Moyes as a man can not attract any big names as they all ask who he is and what he has achieved and the answer is nothing and no one.

Seriously if you want to argue about the facts that are laid out on the table then you are onto a looser.

I have never said United will not bounce back and ok lets give it the old team in transition status. The truth is the players have no confidence, respect or faith in moyes and that can not be denied.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

leeds in the 70's were the team to beat

Liverpool in the 80's and 90's

man utd 90's and 00's

times change in football and always will,

don't think it will take much to improve united but in my opinion moyes is not the guy to do it

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire


"6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team.

The fact is that team that won the league last year is the same team that David Moyes took over. The only difference between last year and this year is the manager!! oh and that big haired buffoon.

Simply the current manager does not have the respect of the dressing room. Moyes has won nothing, played his football in lower leagues and generally not achieved anything as a player or a manager. Ferguson was successful before he took over at united and therefore despite an initial poor run had the backing and respect of the dressing room throughout his career.

This is a simple fact of a man with no bollocks, no backbone, and no history in charge of a very successful group of international players who have no reason to give the man the repect.

Now before I get slaughtered by every glory hunting united fan whos profiles will probably say they are from outside the area I am not a united fan nor a city fan I am simply a true football fan with no biased towards the clubs involved.

Will stand here blindfolded waiting for someone to fire the first shots!

For someone who despises man utd you seem to know an awful lot

I hate Liverpool with a passion and for that reason I wouldn't entertain a forum lost with their name mentioned in it

Just goes to show that the ABU's are still around and talking nonsense once again

Fact 1 - I am not a Liverpool fan

Fact 2 - I know what im talking about cause I get paid to write about football

Fact 3 - David Moyes as a man can not attract any big names as they all ask who he is and what he has achieved and the answer is nothing and no one.

Seriously if you want to argue about the facts that are laid out on the table then you are onto a looser.

I have never said United will not bounce back and ok lets give it the old team in transition status. The truth is the players have no confidence, respect or faith in moyes and that can not be denied."

Not yet . He has been there less than 6 months and anybody knows that transition into any new post whether that be commercial business or football takes time . Changes are going to happen slowly . New management styles need to be adapted to . This isn't an overnight process .

Fergie knew this and blatantly encouraged every one in his final speech to get behind the new manager and give him time . Time is not 6 months

It's too easy to blame the current manager for a shaky start ... Scapegoat

The real reason behind the current downturn is not being competitive in the transfer market . Who is to blame for this ? Moyes? Nah the only people that have and will continue to hold Manchester United back are the glazers and that muppets Ed Woodward

Only today it's reported that he is more interested in organising the nike sponsorship deals . When realistically he should be 100% focused on the transfer market for the duration of te window

The reason he isn't and the reason why moyes has stated we will not but in January is nothing to do with the fact that they have never heard of him and will not want to come to man utd ... What a crock of shit that is ... They are the biggest club in the world !

The real reason is we are too busy paying off the debt we are in caused by one Malcolm glazer

He is the reason for this . End of

And until they go we will just have to crack on as best we can !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team.

The fact is that team that won the league last year is the same team that David Moyes took over. The only difference between last year and this year is the manager!! oh and that big haired buffoon.

Simply the current manager does not have the respect of the dressing room. Moyes has won nothing, played his football in lower leagues and generally not achieved anything as a player or a manager. Ferguson was successful before he took over at united and therefore despite an initial poor run had the backing and respect of the dressing room throughout his career.

This is a simple fact of a man with no bollocks, no backbone, and no history in charge of a very successful group of international players who have no reason to give the man the repect.

Now before I get slaughtered by every glory hunting united fan whos profiles will probably say they are from outside the area I am not a united fan nor a city fan I am simply a true football fan with no biased towards the clubs involved.

Will stand here blindfolded waiting for someone to fire the first shots!

For someone who despises man utd you seem to know an awful lot

I hate Liverpool with a passion and for that reason I wouldn't entertain a forum lost with their name mentioned in it

Just goes to show that the ABU's are still around and talking nonsense once again

Fact 1 - I am not a Liverpool fan

Fact 2 - I know what im talking about cause I get paid to write about football

Fact 3 - David Moyes as a man can not attract any big names as they all ask who he is and what he has achieved and the answer is nothing and no one.

Seriously if you want to argue about the facts that are laid out on the table then you are onto a looser.

I have never said United will not bounce back and ok lets give it the old team in transition status. The truth is the players have no confidence, respect or faith in moyes and that can not be denied.

Not yet . He has been there less than 6 months and anybody knows that transition into any new post whether that be commercial business or football takes time . Changes are going to happen slowly . New management styles need to be adapted to . This isn't an overnight process .

Fergie knew this and blatantly encouraged every one in his final speech to get behind the new manager and give him time . Time is not 6 months

It's too easy to blame the current manager for a shaky start ... Scapegoat

The real reason behind the current downturn is not being competitive in the transfer market . Who is to blame for this ? Moyes? Nah the only people that have and will continue to hold Manchester United back are the glazers and that muppets Ed Woodward

Only today it's reported that he is more interested in organising the nike sponsorship deals . When realistically he should be 100% focused on the transfer market for the duration of te window

The reason he isn't and the reason why moyes has stated we will not but in January is nothing to do with the fact that they have never heard of him and will not want to come to man utd ... What a crock of shit that is ... They are the biggest club in the world !

The real reason is we are too busy paying off the debt we are in caused by one Malcolm glazer

He is the reason for this . End of

And until they go we will just have to crack on as best we can ! "

I think Moye's will get it right but he will need time. Filainie was a panic buy and I don't class him as the type of player associated with Man U. The new chief exec has left Man U on a shitty state he left china early to sort out the signings and didn't get it done until 5 weeks later in the last hour and brought someone not right for the club. Ozil would have been a better buy someone to take over from scoles. Not sure on Zarha as well as you have so many players already in this position. Think 6th this year then back to business the following,

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By *rynewMan
over a year ago

warrington


"6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team.

The fact is that team that won the league last year is the same team that David Moyes took over. The only difference between last year and this year is the manager!! oh and that big haired buffoon.

Simply the current manager does not have the respect of the dressing room. Moyes has won nothing, played his football in lower leagues and generally not achieved anything as a player or a manager. Ferguson was successful before he took over at united and therefore despite an initial poor run had the backing and respect of the dressing room throughout his career.

This is a simple fact of a man with no bollocks, no backbone, and no history in charge of a very successful group of international players who have no reason to give the man the repect.

Now before I get slaughtered by every glory hunting united fan whos profiles will probably say they are from outside the area I am not a united fan nor a city fan I am simply a true football fan with no biased towards the clubs involved.

Will stand here blindfolded waiting for someone to fire the first shots!

For someone who despises man utd you seem to know an awful lot

I hate Liverpool with a passion and for that reason I wouldn't entertain a forum lost with their name mentioned in it

Just goes to show that the ABU's are still around and talking nonsense once again

Fact 1 - I am not a Liverpool fan

Fact 2 - I know what im talking about cause I get paid to write about football

Fact 3 - David Moyes as a man can not attract any big names as they all ask who he is and what he has achieved and the answer is nothing and no one.

Seriously if you want to argue about the facts that are laid out on the table then you are onto a looser.

I have never said United will not bounce back and ok lets give it the old team in transition status. The truth is the players have no confidence, respect or faith in moyes and that can not be denied.

Not yet . He has been there less than 6 months and anybody knows that transition into any new post whether that be commercial business or football takes time . Changes are going to happen slowly . New management styles need to be adapted to . This isn't an overnight process .

Fergie knew this and blatantly encouraged every one in his final speech to get behind the new manager and give him time . Time is not 6 months

It's too easy to blame the current manager for a shaky start ... Scapegoat

The real reason behind the current downturn is not being competitive in the transfer market . Who is to blame for this ? Moyes? Nah the only people that have and will continue to hold Manchester United back are the glazers and that muppets Ed Woodward

Only today it's reported that he is more interested in organising the nike sponsorship deals . When realistically he should be 100% focused on the transfer market for the duration of te window

The reason he isn't and the reason why moyes has stated we will not but in January is nothing to do with the fact that they have never heard of him and will not want to come to man utd ... What a crock of shit that is ... They are the biggest club in the world !

The real reason is we are too busy paying off the debt we are in caused by one Malcolm glazer

He is the reason for this . End of

And until they go we will just have to crack on as best we can ! "

Again another inept and factually deficient Manchester united fan. The true united fans who have had issues with the glaziers and woodward are now supporting a true football fans club in FC United.

Don't give me this biggest club in the world crock of rubbish either cause united are not the biggest club in the world you may well be in the top 5 but will never be number 1.

Most true united fans are in agreement with me and the facts that I have put forward. The truth of the matter is that the appoint of Moyes was completed by Fergie and he is still a big part of the club however his appointment of Moyes was nothing to do with moving the club forward it was more to do with look give this lad a go he could do with a chance to see what he can do and to be fair his failure will only make fergie's rein look even better than it was.

I am not doubting the fact that fergie was the greatest manager of his generation and arguably of all time anywhere. but the man has the biggest self certified ego than the whole of mankind put together (rightly as well to a certain extent).

His final speeches were impended to make him seem sincere and that he was once a young man the truth is the game is different from when he took over and the fact that now time is money and time is not something that Moyes has got or will ever have, success is required instantly. I don't believe he will be sacked but I do believe he will have a maximum 18 months in the job unless he is at the top of the league and in at least 2 finals.

Now I will get off my high horse and will you please actually think of a decent response before you reply.

Thanks in advance.

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire


"6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team.

The fact is that team that won the league last year is the same team that David Moyes took over. The only difference between last year and this year is the manager!! oh and that big haired buffoon.

Simply the current manager does not have the respect of the dressing room. Moyes has won nothing, played his football in lower leagues and generally not achieved anything as a player or a manager. Ferguson was successful before he took over at united and therefore despite an initial poor run had the backing and respect of the dressing room throughout his career.

This is a simple fact of a man with no bollocks, no backbone, and no history in charge of a very successful group of international players who have no reason to give the man the repect.

Now before I get slaughtered by every glory hunting united fan whos profiles will probably say they are from outside the area I am not a united fan nor a city fan I am simply a true football fan with no biased towards the clubs involved.

Will stand here blindfolded waiting for someone to fire the first shots!

For someone who despises man utd you seem to know an awful lot

I hate Liverpool with a passion and for that reason I wouldn't entertain a forum lost with their name mentioned in it

Just goes to show that the ABU's are still around and talking nonsense once again

Fact 1 - I am not a Liverpool fan

Fact 2 - I know what im talking about cause I get paid to write about football

Fact 3 - David Moyes as a man can not attract any big names as they all ask who he is and what he has achieved and the answer is nothing and no one.

Seriously if you want to argue about the facts that are laid out on the table then you are onto a looser.

I have never said United will not bounce back and ok lets give it the old team in transition status. The truth is the players have no confidence, respect or faith in moyes and that can not be denied.

Not yet . He has been there less than 6 months and anybody knows that transition into any new post whether that be commercial business or football takes time . Changes are going to happen slowly . New management styles need to be adapted to . This isn't an overnight process .

Fergie knew this and blatantly encouraged every one in his final speech to get behind the new manager and give him time . Time is not 6 months

It's too easy to blame the current manager for a shaky start ... Scapegoat

The real reason behind the current downturn is not being competitive in the transfer market . Who is to blame for this ? Moyes? Nah the only people that have and will continue to hold Manchester United back are the glazers and that muppets Ed Woodward

Only today it's reported that he is more interested in organising the nike sponsorship deals . When realistically he should be 100% focused on the transfer market for the duration of te window

The reason he isn't and the reason why moyes has stated we will not but in January is nothing to do with the fact that they have never heard of him and will not want to come to man utd ... What a crock of shit that is ... They are the biggest club in the world !

The real reason is we are too busy paying off the debt we are in caused by one Malcolm glazer

He is the reason for this . End of

And until they go we will just have to crack on as best we can !

Again another inept and factually deficient Manchester united fan. The true united fans who have had issues with the glaziers and woodward are now supporting a true football fans club in FC United.

Don't give me this biggest club in the world crock of rubbish either cause united are not the biggest club in the world you may well be in the top 5 but will never be number 1.

Most true united fans are in agreement with me and the facts that I have put forward. The truth of the matter is that the appoint of Moyes was completed by Fergie and he is still a big part of the club however his appointment of Moyes was nothing to do with moving the club forward it was more to do with look give this lad a go he could do with a chance to see what he can do and to be fair his failure will only make fergie's rein look even better than it was.

I am not doubting the fact that fergie was the greatest manager of his generation and arguably of all time anywhere. but the man has the biggest self certified ego than the whole of mankind put together (rightly as well to a certain extent).

His final speeches were impended to make him seem sincere and that he was once a young man the truth is the game is different from when he took over and the fact that now time is money and time is not something that Moyes has got or will ever have, success is required instantly. I don't believe he will be sacked but I do believe he will have a maximum 18 months in the job unless he is at the top of the league and in at least 2 finals.

Now I will get off my high horse and will you please actually think of a decent response before you reply.

Thanks in advance."

You have no idea what your talking about

The real man utd fans are not the ones who left to set up fc united . The real ones are the ones who stayed and out up with the price hikes And continuous to slate the glazers week in week out

It's our club . Not theirs and we will be here long after they have fled

Can you tell me any other club ( including Real Madrid) who have such global support and recognition ? Didn't think so .. That for me makes it the biggest club in the world

Not that means much to me . If I'm honest I think the club has suffered on the whole . Yes we have own trophies but the amount of knob heads that now frequent OT and more alarming away matches has increased and genuine utd fans are left to try and get behind the team and organise singing sections within OT

For me not winning anything for 5 years would be a good thing at least we may get our club back

And ps

Couldn't give a flying fuck what you reply

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By *rynewMan
over a year ago

warrington


"6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team.

The fact is that team that won the league last year is the same team that David Moyes took over. The only difference between last year and this year is the manager!! oh and that big haired buffoon.

Simply the current manager does not have the respect of the dressing room. Moyes has won nothing, played his football in lower leagues and generally not achieved anything as a player or a manager. Ferguson was successful before he took over at united and therefore despite an initial poor run had the backing and respect of the dressing room throughout his career.

This is a simple fact of a man with no bollocks, no backbone, and no history in charge of a very successful group of international players who have no reason to give the man the repect.

Now before I get slaughtered by every glory hunting united fan whos profiles will probably say they are from outside the area I am not a united fan nor a city fan I am simply a true football fan with no biased towards the clubs involved.

Will stand here blindfolded waiting for someone to fire the first shots!

For someone who despises man utd you seem to know an awful lot

I hate Liverpool with a passion and for that reason I wouldn't entertain a forum lost with their name mentioned in it

Just goes to show that the ABU's are still around and talking nonsense once again

Fact 1 - I am not a Liverpool fan

Fact 2 - I know what im talking about cause I get paid to write about football

Fact 3 - David Moyes as a man can not attract any big names as they all ask who he is and what he has achieved and the answer is nothing and no one.

Seriously if you want to argue about the facts that are laid out on the table then you are onto a looser.

I have never said United will not bounce back and ok lets give it the old team in transition status. The truth is the players have no confidence, respect or faith in moyes and that can not be denied.

Not yet . He has been there less than 6 months and anybody knows that transition into any new post whether that be commercial business or football takes time . Changes are going to happen slowly . New management styles need to be adapted to . This isn't an overnight process .

Fergie knew this and blatantly encouraged every one in his final speech to get behind the new manager and give him time . Time is not 6 months

It's too easy to blame the current manager for a shaky start ... Scapegoat

The real reason behind the current downturn is not being competitive in the transfer market . Who is to blame for this ? Moyes? Nah the only people that have and will continue to hold Manchester United back are the glazers and that muppets Ed Woodward

Only today it's reported that he is more interested in organising the nike sponsorship deals . When realistically he should be 100% focused on the transfer market for the duration of te window

The reason he isn't and the reason why moyes has stated we will not but in January is nothing to do with the fact that they have never heard of him and will not want to come to man utd ... What a crock of shit that is ... They are the biggest club in the world !

The real reason is we are too busy paying off the debt we are in caused by one Malcolm glazer

He is the reason for this . End of

And until they go we will just have to crack on as best we can !

Again another inept and factually deficient Manchester united fan. The true united fans who have had issues with the glaziers and woodward are now supporting a true football fans club in FC United.

Don't give me this biggest club in the world crock of rubbish either cause united are not the biggest club in the world you may well be in the top 5 but will never be number 1.

Most true united fans are in agreement with me and the facts that I have put forward. The truth of the matter is that the appoint of Moyes was completed by Fergie and he is still a big part of the club however his appointment of Moyes was nothing to do with moving the club forward it was more to do with look give this lad a go he could do with a chance to see what he can do and to be fair his failure will only make fergie's rein look even better than it was.

I am not doubting the fact that fergie was the greatest manager of his generation and arguably of all time anywhere. but the man has the biggest self certified ego than the whole of mankind put together (rightly as well to a certain extent).

His final speeches were impended to make him seem sincere and that he was once a young man the truth is the game is different from when he took over and the fact that now time is money and time is not something that Moyes has got or will ever have, success is required instantly. I don't believe he will be sacked but I do believe he will have a maximum 18 months in the job unless he is at the top of the league and in at least 2 finals.

Now I will get off my high horse and will you please actually think of a decent response before you reply.

Thanks in advance.

You have no idea what your talking about

The real man utd fans are not the ones who left to set up fc united . The real ones are the ones who stayed and out up with the price hikes And continuous to slate the glazers week in week out

It's our club . Not theirs and we will be here long after they have fled

Can you tell me any other club ( including Real Madrid) who have such global support and recognition ? Didn't think so .. That for me makes it the biggest club in the world

Not that means much to me . If I'm honest I think the club has suffered on the whole . Yes we have own trophies but the amount of knob heads that now frequent OT and more alarming away matches has increased and genuine utd fans are left to try and get behind the team and organise singing sections within OT

For me not winning anything for 5 years would be a good thing at least we may get our club back

And ps

Couldn't give a flying fuck what you reply

"

Seriously you sum up what every United fan is about the fact that you don't know what your talking about. If your on about global fan base then your not the biggest club, if your on about revenue streams then again your not the biggest club.

The atmosphere at OT has been like a morgue for in excess of 7 years, I agree your following is on a different level and it is attracting some scum at the minute and I don't know why. It used to be good having your boys visit but now sorry but i have experienced first hand how bad some of your so called supporters actually are.

On as serious note and I am not getting personal here can you honestly say you back Moyes 100% and believe that this is man to keep the club on the level that you are so used to?

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Don't forget Howard Webb ain't on the payroll anymore

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire


"6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team.

The fact is that team that won the league last year is the same team that David Moyes took over. The only difference between last year and this year is the manager!! oh and that big haired buffoon.

Simply the current manager does not have the respect of the dressing room. Moyes has won nothing, played his football in lower leagues and generally not achieved anything as a player or a manager. Ferguson was successful before he took over at united and therefore despite an initial poor run had the backing and respect of the dressing room throughout his career.

This is a simple fact of a man with no bollocks, no backbone, and no history in charge of a very successful group of international players who have no reason to give the man the repect.

Now before I get slaughtered by every glory hunting united fan whos profiles will probably say they are from outside the area I am not a united fan nor a city fan I am simply a true football fan with no biased towards the clubs involved.

Will stand here blindfolded waiting for someone to fire the first shots!

For someone who despises man utd you seem to know an awful lot

I hate Liverpool with a passion and for that reason I wouldn't entertain a forum lost with their name mentioned in it

Just goes to show that the ABU's are still around and talking nonsense once again

Fact 1 - I am not a Liverpool fan

Fact 2 - I know what im talking about cause I get paid to write about football

Fact 3 - David Moyes as a man can not attract any big names as they all ask who he is and what he has achieved and the answer is nothing and no one.

Seriously if you want to argue about the facts that are laid out on the table then you are onto a looser.

I have never said United will not bounce back and ok lets give it the old team in transition status. The truth is the players have no confidence, respect or faith in moyes and that can not be denied.

Not yet . He has been there less than 6 months and anybody knows that transition into any new post whether that be commercial business or football takes time . Changes are going to happen slowly . New management styles need to be adapted to . This isn't an overnight process .

Fergie knew this and blatantly encouraged every one in his final speech to get behind the new manager and give him time . Time is not 6 months

It's too easy to blame the current manager for a shaky start ... Scapegoat

The real reason behind the current downturn is not being competitive in the transfer market . Who is to blame for this ? Moyes? Nah the only people that have and will continue to hold Manchester United back are the glazers and that muppets Ed Woodward

Only today it's reported that he is more interested in organising the nike sponsorship deals . When realistically he should be 100% focused on the transfer market for the duration of te window

The reason he isn't and the reason why moyes has stated we will not but in January is nothing to do with the fact that they have never heard of him and will not want to come to man utd ... What a crock of shit that is ... They are the biggest club in the world !

The real reason is we are too busy paying off the debt we are in caused by one Malcolm glazer

He is the reason for this . End of

And until they go we will just have to crack on as best we can !

Again another inept and factually deficient Manchester united fan. The true united fans who have had issues with the glaziers and woodward are now supporting a true football fans club in FC United.

Don't give me this biggest club in the world crock of rubbish either cause united are not the biggest club in the world you may well be in the top 5 but will never be number 1.

Most true united fans are in agreement with me and the facts that I have put forward. The truth of the matter is that the appoint of Moyes was completed by Fergie and he is still a big part of the club however his appointment of Moyes was nothing to do with moving the club forward it was more to do with look give this lad a go he could do with a chance to see what he can do and to be fair his failure will only make fergie's rein look even better than it was.

I am not doubting the fact that fergie was the greatest manager of his generation and arguably of all time anywhere. but the man has the biggest self certified ego than the whole of mankind put together (rightly as well to a certain extent).

His final speeches were impended to make him seem sincere and that he was once a young man the truth is the game is different from when he took over and the fact that now time is money and time is not something that Moyes has got or will ever have, success is required instantly. I don't believe he will be sacked but I do believe he will have a maximum 18 months in the job unless he is at the top of the league and in at least 2 finals.

Now I will get off my high horse and will you please actually think of a decent response before you reply.

Thanks in advance.

You have no idea what your talking about

The real man utd fans are not the ones who left to set up fc united . The real ones are the ones who stayed and out up with the price hikes And continuous to slate the glazers week in week out

It's our club . Not theirs and we will be here long after they have fled

Can you tell me any other club ( including Real Madrid) who have such global support and recognition ? Didn't think so .. That for me makes it the biggest club in the world

Not that means much to me . If I'm honest I think the club has suffered on the whole . Yes we have own trophies but the amount of knob heads that now frequent OT and more alarming away matches has increased and genuine utd fans are left to try and get behind the team and organise singing sections within OT

For me not winning anything for 5 years would be a good thing at least we may get our club back

And ps

Couldn't give a flying fuck what you reply

Seriously you sum up what every United fan is about the fact that you don't know what your talking about. If your on about global fan base then your not the biggest club, if your on about revenue streams then again your not the biggest club.

The atmosphere at OT has been like a morgue for in excess of 7 years, I agree your following is on a different level and it is attracting some scum at the minute and I don't know why. It used to be good having your boys visit but now sorry but i have experienced first hand how bad some of your so called supporters actually are.

On as serious note and I am not getting personal here can you honestly say you back Moyes 100% and believe that this is man to keep the club on the level that you are so used to?"

Whether or not I think moyes is the man for the job is irrelevant

Time will tell if he is or he isn't

As a man utd fan of 34 years . And one who has travelled all of the county and all over the world to support them what matters is I back the side and support the team and the manager !

Those who are calling for him to be sacked are probably the post 1993 fans those who haven't experienced the club winning nothing!

Say what you like about united fans knowing nothing , you can believe the hype about our club and it's real fans as much as you want

Let the doubters. Doubt and the muppets laugh

We will come back . Mark my words

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By *U1966Man
over a year ago

Devon

Finish 7th at best

If they sack Moyes who would want to go there

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

well at least all the post 93 glory hunters can go back to supporting their local teams now you know chelsea spurs plymouth carlisle etc

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over a year ago


"6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team.

The fact is that team that won the league last year is the same team that David Moyes took over. The only difference between last year and this year is the manager!! oh and that big haired buffoon.

Simply the current manager does not have the respect of the dressing room. Moyes has won nothing, played his football in lower leagues and generally not achieved anything as a player or a manager. Ferguson was successful before he took over at united and therefore despite an initial poor run had the backing and respect of the dressing room throughout his career.

This is a simple fact of a man with no bollocks, no backbone, and no history in charge of a very successful group of international players who have no reason to give the man the repect.

Now before I get slaughtered by every glory hunting united fan whos profiles will probably say they are from outside the area I am not a united fan nor a city fan I am simply a true football fan with no biased towards the clubs involved.

Will stand here blindfolded waiting for someone to fire the first shots!

For someone who despises man utd you seem to know an awful lot

I hate Liverpool with a passion and for that reason I wouldn't entertain a forum lost with their name mentioned in it

Just goes to show that the ABU's are still around and talking nonsense once again

Fact 1 - I am not a Liverpool fan

Fact 2 - I know what im talking about cause I get paid to write about football

Fact 3 - David Moyes as a man can not attract any big names as they all ask who he is and what he has achieved and the answer is nothing and no one.

Seriously if you want to argue about the facts that are laid out on the table then you are onto a looser.

I have never said United will not bounce back and ok lets give it the old team in transition status. The truth is the players have no confidence, respect or faith in moyes and that can not be denied.

Not yet . He has been there less than 6 months and anybody knows that transition into any new post whether that be commercial business or football takes time . Changes are going to happen slowly . New management styles need to be adapted to . This isn't an overnight process .

Fergie knew this and blatantly encouraged every one in his final speech to get behind the new manager and give him time . Time is not 6 months

It's too easy to blame the current manager for a shaky start ... Scapegoat

The real reason behind the current downturn is not being competitive in the transfer market . Who is to blame for this ? Moyes? Nah the only people that have and will continue to hold Manchester United back are the glazers and that muppets Ed Woodward

Only today it's reported that he is more interested in organising the nike sponsorship deals . When realistically he should be 100% focused on the transfer market for the duration of te window

The reason he isn't and the reason why moyes has stated we will not but in January is nothing to do with the fact that they have never heard of him and will not want to come to man utd ... What a crock of shit that is ... They are the biggest club in the world !

The real reason is we are too busy paying off the debt we are in caused by one Malcolm glazer

He is the reason for this . End of

And until they go we will just have to crack on as best we can !

Again another inept and factually deficient Manchester united fan. The true united fans who have had issues with the glaziers and woodward are now supporting a true football fans club in FC United.

Don't give me this biggest club in the world crock of rubbish either cause united are not the biggest club in the world you may well be in the top 5 but will never be number 1.

Most true united fans are in agreement with me and the facts that I have put forward. The truth of the matter is that the appoint of Moyes was completed by Fergie and he is still a big part of the club however his appointment of Moyes was nothing to do with moving the club forward it was more to do with look give this lad a go he could do with a chance to see what he can do and to be fair his failure will only make fergie's rein look even better than it was.

I am not doubting the fact that fergie was the greatest manager of his generation and arguably of all time anywhere. but the man has the biggest self certified ego than the whole of mankind put together (rightly as well to a certain extent).

His final speeches were impended to make him seem sincere and that he was once a young man the truth is the game is different from when he took over and the fact that now time is money and time is not something that Moyes has got or will ever have, success is required instantly. I don't believe he will be sacked but I do believe he will have a maximum 18 months in the job unless he is at the top of the league and in at least 2 finals.

Now I will get off my high horse and will you please actually think of a decent response before you reply.

Thanks in advance."

Not sure if this will do but what a load of BOLLOCKS

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire


"well at least all the post 93 glory hunters can go back to supporting their local teams now you know chelsea spurs plymouth carlisle etc "

And good riddance !!!

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By *rynewMan
over a year ago

warrington


"well at least all the post 93 glory hunters can go back to supporting their local teams now you know chelsea spurs plymouth carlisle etc

And good riddance !!! "

Finally we agree on something lol.

To be fair all teams have had their glory fans over the years but the label seems to have stuck with United assuming because of their continued success.

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By *rynewMan
over a year ago

warrington


"6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team.

The fact is that team that won the league last year is the same team that David Moyes took over. The only difference between last year and this year is the manager!! oh and that big haired buffoon.

Simply the current manager does not have the respect of the dressing room. Moyes has won nothing, played his football in lower leagues and generally not achieved anything as a player or a manager. Ferguson was successful before he took over at united and therefore despite an initial poor run had the backing and respect of the dressing room throughout his career.

This is a simple fact of a man with no bollocks, no backbone, and no history in charge of a very successful group of international players who have no reason to give the man the repect.

Now before I get slaughtered by every glory hunting united fan whos profiles will probably say they are from outside the area I am not a united fan nor a city fan I am simply a true football fan with no biased towards the clubs involved.

Will stand here blindfolded waiting for someone to fire the first shots!

For someone who despises man utd you seem to know an awful lot

I hate Liverpool with a passion and for that reason I wouldn't entertain a forum lost with their name mentioned in it

Just goes to show that the ABU's are still around and talking nonsense once again

Fact 1 - I am not a Liverpool fan

Fact 2 - I know what im talking about cause I get paid to write about football

Fact 3 - David Moyes as a man can not attract any big names as they all ask who he is and what he has achieved and the answer is nothing and no one.

Seriously if you want to argue about the facts that are laid out on the table then you are onto a looser.

I have never said United will not bounce back and ok lets give it the old team in transition status. The truth is the players have no confidence, respect or faith in moyes and that can not be denied.

Not yet . He has been there less than 6 months and anybody knows that transition into any new post whether that be commercial business or football takes time . Changes are going to happen slowly . New management styles need to be adapted to . This isn't an overnight process .

Fergie knew this and blatantly encouraged every one in his final speech to get behind the new manager and give him time . Time is not 6 months

It's too easy to blame the current manager for a shaky start ... Scapegoat

The real reason behind the current downturn is not being competitive in the transfer market . Who is to blame for this ? Moyes? Nah the only people that have and will continue to hold Manchester United back are the glazers and that muppets Ed Woodward

Only today it's reported that he is more interested in organising the nike sponsorship deals . When realistically he should be 100% focused on the transfer market for the duration of te window

The reason he isn't and the reason why moyes has stated we will not but in January is nothing to do with the fact that they have never heard of him and will not want to come to man utd ... What a crock of shit that is ... They are the biggest club in the world !

The real reason is we are too busy paying off the debt we are in caused by one Malcolm glazer

He is the reason for this . End of

And until they go we will just have to crack on as best we can !

Again another inept and factually deficient Manchester united fan. The true united fans who have had issues with the glaziers and woodward are now supporting a true football fans club in FC United.

Don't give me this biggest club in the world crock of rubbish either cause united are not the biggest club in the world you may well be in the top 5 but will never be number 1.

Most true united fans are in agreement with me and the facts that I have put forward. The truth of the matter is that the appoint of Moyes was completed by Fergie and he is still a big part of the club however his appointment of Moyes was nothing to do with moving the club forward it was more to do with look give this lad a go he could do with a chance to see what he can do and to be fair his failure will only make fergie's rein look even better than it was.

I am not doubting the fact that fergie was the greatest manager of his generation and arguably of all time anywhere. but the man has the biggest self certified ego than the whole of mankind put together (rightly as well to a certain extent).

His final speeches were impended to make him seem sincere and that he was once a young man the truth is the game is different from when he took over and the fact that now time is money and time is not something that Moyes has got or will ever have, success is required instantly. I don't believe he will be sacked but I do believe he will have a maximum 18 months in the job unless he is at the top of the league and in at least 2 finals.

Now I will get off my high horse and will you please actually think of a decent response before you reply.

Thanks in advance.

Not sure if this will do but what a load of BOLLOCKS"

Nice to see a highly intellectual response!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team.

The fact is that team that won the league last year is the same team that David Moyes took over. The only difference between last year and this year is the manager!! oh and that big haired buffoon.

Simply the current manager does not have the respect of the dressing room. Moyes has won nothing, played his football in lower leagues and generally not achieved anything as a player or a manager. Ferguson was successful before he took over at united and therefore despite an initial poor run had the backing and respect of the dressing room throughout his career.

This is a simple fact of a man with no bollocks, no backbone, and no history in charge of a very successful group of international players who have no reason to give the man the repect.

Now before I get slaughtered by every glory hunting united fan whos profiles will probably say they are from outside the area I am not a united fan nor a city fan I am simply a true football fan with no biased towards the clubs involved.

Will stand here blindfolded waiting for someone to fire the first shots!

For someone who despises man utd you seem to know an awful lot

I hate Liverpool with a passion and for that reason I wouldn't entertain a forum lost with their name mentioned in it

Just goes to show that the ABU's are still around and talking nonsense once again

Fact 1 - I am not a Liverpool fan

Fact 2 - I know what im talking about cause I get paid to write about football

Fact 3 - David Moyes as a man can not attract any big names as they all ask who he is and what he has achieved and the answer is nothing and no one.

Seriously if you want to argue about the facts that are laid out on the table then you are onto a looser.

I have never said United will not bounce back and ok lets give it the old team in transition status. The truth is the players have no confidence, respect or faith in moyes and that can not be denied.

Not yet . He has been there less than 6 months and anybody knows that transition into any new post whether that be commercial business or football takes time . Changes are going to happen slowly . New management styles need to be adapted to . This isn't an overnight process .

Fergie knew this and blatantly encouraged every one in his final speech to get behind the new manager and give him time . Time is not 6 months

It's too easy to blame the current manager for a shaky start ... Scapegoat

The real reason behind the current downturn is not being competitive in the transfer market . Who is to blame for this ? Moyes? Nah the only people that have and will continue to hold Manchester United back are the glazers and that muppets Ed Woodward

Only today it's reported that he is more interested in organising the nike sponsorship deals . When realistically he should be 100% focused on the transfer market for the duration of te window

The reason he isn't and the reason why moyes has stated we will not but in January is nothing to do with the fact that they have never heard of him and will not want to come to man utd ... What a crock of shit that is ... They are the biggest club in the world !

The real reason is we are too busy paying off the debt we are in caused by one Malcolm glazer

He is the reason for this . End of

And until they go we will just have to crack on as best we can !

Again another inept and factually deficient Manchester united fan. The true united fans who have had issues with the glaziers and woodward are now supporting a true football fans club in FC United.

Don't give me this biggest club in the world crock of rubbish either cause united are not the biggest club in the world you may well be in the top 5 but will never be number 1.

Most true united fans are in agreement with me and the facts that I have put forward. The truth of the matter is that the appoint of Moyes was completed by Fergie and he is still a big part of the club however his appointment of Moyes was nothing to do with moving the club forward it was more to do with look give this lad a go he could do with a chance to see what he can do and to be fair his failure will only make fergie's rein look even better than it was.

I am not doubting the fact that fergie was the greatest manager of his generation and arguably of all time anywhere. but the man has the biggest self certified ego than the whole of mankind put together (rightly as well to a certain extent).

His final speeches were impended to make him seem sincere and that he was once a young man the truth is the game is different from when he took over and the fact that now time is money and time is not something that Moyes has got or will ever have, success is required instantly. I don't believe he will be sacked but I do believe he will have a maximum 18 months in the job unless he is at the top of the league and in at least 2 finals.

Now I will get off my high horse and will you please actually think of a decent response before you reply.

Thanks in advance.

Not sure if this will do but what a load of BOLLOCKS

Nice to see a highly intellectual response!"

Thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is manager getting grief. More or less same players from before. This applies to all teams really the players are paid ridiculous amounts of money that no one deserves for kicking a football and play half heartedly.

They should need np motivation to play at an intense level all the time.

They are treated with kid gloves and should be dealt with firmly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i'l let you know the end of january.

if he spends wise and big, he MAY turn it around and just scrape in

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire


"well at least all the post 93 glory hunters can go back to supporting their local teams now you know chelsea spurs plymouth carlisle etc

And good riddance !!!

Finally we agree on something lol.

To be fair all teams have had their glory fans over the years but the label seems to have stuck with United assuming because of their continued success.

"

Because they have been the best supported consistently . Even when we only ever won the odd fa cup our home and away support was the best

The cockney reds have always been around and some of the finest fans we have had

Nowadays if your from Norway Ireland and Asia ... Your the golden fan with pockets of money to spend in the shops on branded shite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why o why has no one mentioned all the injuries we have had it's been madness. Moyes done the most important thing at the start of the season got Rooney playing back at his best we have had no rvp and the back 4 haven't been the same 3 games in a row carrick has been out no manager would be challenging for the title with all this in his first season if anything fergie drop moyes right in it saying what he did about Rooney no need

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By *enandlisaCouple
over a year ago

Burnley'ish


"well at least all the post 93 glory hunters can go back to supporting their local teams now you know chelsea spurs plymouth carlisle etc

And good riddance !!! "

If they all return "back to supporting their local teams" who will sit in the 25,000+ seats that have been added post 93?

Perhaps you could go and watch them then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just my 2 penneth, from a football fan not a fan of united or any of their main rivals.

the current team are 2 years past their prime.

3 of the back 4 are past it, he should be playing the likes of smalling and evans in the middle week in, week out, so they get used to it.

fergie has ruined the midfield by not addressing a situation he could see 5 years ago. there isnt a decent central midfield there worthy of the shirt. kagawa is a waste of time, carrick and cleverley pedestrian. personally, i like the look of jones in front of the back 4, so he should be played there for a succession of games, if they can keep him fit.

its a sign of the man that he is getting a tune out of Young, and even rooney, which is a situation that isnt helping.

fergie, and now moyes made a HUGE mistake in putting rvp on a higher pedestal than roo as the latter stays fitter for longer. personally, moyes should tell roo he is his number 1 man, as he knits the team much better than van persie ever will, get him to sign another contract, and if a decent bid for van persie comes in, rip their arms off. play welbeck/hernandez with roo. this window, moyes needs that creative midfielder (maybe mata?) and a central defender. let ferdinand and vidic go

tie evra to another year, try to get that lad from southampton at left back (shaw, at 29 Baines is a waste of money).

as a football fan, thats my opinions anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"just my 2 penneth, from a football fan not a fan of united or any of their main rivals.

the current team are 2 years past their prime.

3 of the back 4 are past it, he should be playing the likes of smalling and evans in the middle week in, week out, so they get used to it.

fergie has ruined the midfield by not addressing a situation he could see 5 years ago. there isnt a decent central midfield there worthy of the shirt. kagawa is a waste of time, carrick and cleverley pedestrian. personally, i like the look of jones in front of the back 4, so he should be played there for a succession of games, if they can keep him fit.

its a sign of the man that he is getting a tune out of Young, and even rooney, which is a situation that isnt helping.

fergie, and now moyes made a HUGE mistake in putting rvp on a higher pedestal than roo as the latter stays fitter for longer. personally, moyes should tell roo he is his number 1 man, as he knits the team much better than van persie ever will, get him to sign another contract, and if a decent bid for van persie comes in, rip their arms off. play welbeck/hernandez with roo. this window, moyes needs that creative midfielder (maybe mata?) and a central defender. let ferdinand and vidic go

tie evra to another year, try to get that lad from southampton at left back (shaw, at 29 Baines is a waste of money).

as a football fan, thats my opinions anyway"

Agree with most just not about carrick he is top quality

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over a year ago

Won't win anything this year nor qualify for Europe,if I was a betting man ferguson to return by end of season

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"just my 2 penneth, from a football fan not a fan of united or any of their main rivals.

the current team are 2 years past their prime.

3 of the back 4 are past it, he should be playing the likes of smalling and evans in the middle week in, week out, so they get used to it.

fergie has ruined the midfield by not addressing a situation he could see 5 years ago. there isnt a decent central midfield there worthy of the shirt. kagawa is a waste of time, carrick and cleverley pedestrian. personally, i like the look of jones in front of the back 4, so he should be played there for a succession of games, if they can keep him fit.

its a sign of the man that he is getting a tune out of Young, and even rooney, which is a situation that isnt helping.

fergie, and now moyes made a HUGE mistake in putting rvp on a higher pedestal than roo as the latter stays fitter for longer. personally, moyes should tell roo he is his number 1 man, as he knits the team much better than van persie ever will, get him to sign another contract, and if a decent bid for van persie comes in, rip their arms off. play welbeck/hernandez with roo. this window, moyes needs that creative midfielder (maybe mata?) and a central defender. let ferdinand and vidic go

tie evra to another year, try to get that lad from southampton at left back (shaw, at 29 Baines is a waste of money).

as a football fan, thats my opinions anyway

Agree with most just not about carrick he is top quality "

tbh you see him more than me, so yourself, and obviously hodgeson sees more in him than i do lol

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire


"well at least all the post 93 glory hunters can go back to supporting their local teams now you know chelsea spurs plymouth carlisle etc

And good riddance !!!

If they all return "back to supporting their local teams" who will sit in the 25,000+ seats that have been added post 93?

Perhaps you could go and watch them then "

If you look at the average crowd attendances at old Trafford throughout the last decade you will see a pattern emerge

We have always been the best supported side , even we we played second fiddle to Liverpool

I'd happily go back to having empty seats if all the rest were fans like we used to have

Would I go back to watching united in the 70's and 80's winning the odd cup over playing in the champions league

You bet I would !!

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By *enandlisaCouple
over a year ago

Burnley'ish


"well at least all the post 93 glory hunters can go back to supporting their local teams now you know chelsea spurs plymouth carlisle etc

And good riddance !!!

If they all return "back to supporting their local teams" who will sit in the 25,000+ seats that have been added post 93?

Perhaps you could go and watch them then

If you look at the average crowd attendances at old Trafford throughout the last decade you will see a pattern emerge

We have always been the best supported side , even we we played second fiddle to Liverpool

I'd happily go back to having empty seats if all the rest were fans like we used to have

Would I go back to watching united in the 70's and 80's winning the odd cup over playing in the champions league

You bet I would !!

"

Which pattern is that?

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

Consistently the best supported team home and away !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Agree, and it's hilarious "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Finish 7th at best

If they sack Moyes who would want to go there"

Lets hope they dont sack him

I think hes doing a great job myself

YNWA

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By *iddyandherCouple
over a year ago

Benidorm

The main difference is the back room staff! The team was the same last season' and champions ! The manger change is imerterail , the back room staff makes the team play one way ,the same way for 20 odd years , then you get Phil nevell !!!!!! And co, COME BACK MIKE ,

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By *U1966Man
over a year ago

Devon


"Finish 7th at best

If they sack Moyes who would want to go there

Lets hope they dont sack him

I think hes doing a great job myself

YNWA "

Finally he's got everton above man utd

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Utd will make the top 4!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's interesting hearing Footy fans saying; "I hate this club!" "I hate that club!" It's like - how juvenile!!

Interesting social experiment, this thread!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's interesting hearing Footy fans saying; "I hate this club!" "I hate that club!" It's like - how juvenile!!

Interesting social experiment, this thread! "

isnt it just.

me, im a fan of football.

love watching it played well.

not the tippy tappy shite you get with Barca, but every form of it, from the hump n lump or stoke and west ham, to the lovely sweeping moves you see from fergies man u of the mid 90's, chelseas power play of the old mourihno era and so on.

so many different ways to play.

makes me laugh when you hear fans saying 'but they dont play OUR way'

well, west ham have played the west ham way for years and won fook all lol.

the best way to play football, is only the winning way lol

btw, albion fan so i dont see much good footy being played lol

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"It's interesting hearing Footy fans saying; "I hate this club!" "I hate that club!" It's like - how juvenile!!

Interesting social experiment, this thread! "

the sooner that some stop associating hate with what is essentially a game albeit one now more of a business etc the better..

and before anyone starts about 'passion' and that why folks have strong feelings, thats just a cop out ...

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By *uckyinlustMan
over a year ago

manchester


"Agree and if the dont get the CL spot they will freefall. And no one likes to see that, do they? Lol"

Oh yes they do ........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team.

The fact is that team that won the league last year is the same team that David Moyes took over. The only difference between last year and this year is the manager!! oh and that big haired buffoon.

Simply the current manager does not have the respect of the dressing room. Moyes has won nothing, played his football in lower leagues and generally not achieved anything as a player or a manager. Ferguson was successful before he took over at united and therefore despite an initial poor run had the backing and respect of the dressing room throughout his career.

This is a simple fact of a man with no bollocks, no backbone, and no history in charge of a very successful group of international players who have no reason to give the man the repect.

Now before I get slaughtered by every glory hunting united fan whos profiles will probably say they are from outside the area I am not a united fan nor a city fan I am simply a true football fan with no biased towards the clubs involved.

Will stand here blindfolded waiting for someone to fire the first shots!"

You also forgot to mention that he has got rid of most of the previous back room staff

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How true! I saw on the weekend, Theo Wallcott injured his knee on the sideline right in front of the Spurs fans - who on turn, yelled abuse at him & when he was taken off on a stretcher, they carried on abusing him, so he reminds them of the score with his fingers, with a smile on his face & they pelt him & the stretcher barers with coins apart from various cot toys!!!

These people were evidently not children!!

Passion my ass!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How true! I saw on the weekend, Theo Wallcott injured his knee on the sideline right in front of the Spurs fans - who on turn, yelled abuse at him & when he was taken off on a stretcher, they carried on abusing him, so he reminds them of the score with his fingers, with a smile on his face & they pelt him & the stretcher barers with coins apart from various cot toys!!!

These people were evidently not children!!

Passion my ass!!!"

thuggery and bafoonery.

every fan should be banned, but they wont.

and yet walcott is now under investigation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They won't make the top 3. 4th is possible if they start getting results now and they have to best Chelsea next week. I am a united supporter and if someone asked me would I take 4th spot I would. Then I would bring in a a known, established manager who is good in Europe. So he can attract players. No player wants to join a club managed by moyes and if that doesn't change we will slip into the bottom half of the table.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Moyes has got a 6yr contract. He wont be sacked.

There's a chance he might walk though, if he feels he's not up to it.

His big mistake was letting Mike Phelan and Rumplestiltskin go

Might finish top 10

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nike phelan and Rene Meulensteen had to stay as well as the rest of the back room staff. If you feel hat strongly about bringing your own names in. Bring them in gradually so the people being brought in and get that winning mentality, knows what it takes to win and brings experience, etc.

What the glazers should work out is. If they sack him. They can't call themselves a family club who are loyal to their staff. Yet if they don't sack him they will slip lower down the league. The debt will be far to high to pay off as they won't be getting champions league football or competing for trophies and the finances will just get worse and worse and who knows it may get bad enough to get into administration and then we're in trouble

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How true! I saw on the weekend, Theo Wallcott injured his knee on the sideline right in front of the Spurs fans - who on turn, yelled abuse at him & when he was taken off on a stretcher, they carried on abusing him, so he reminds them of the score with his fingers, with a smile on his face & they pelt him & the stretcher barers with coins apart from various cot toys!!!

These people were evidently not children!!

Passion my ass!!!

thuggery and bafoonery.

every fan should be banned, but they wont.

and yet walcott is now under investigation"

He's been cleared - & rightly so; if you're down injured & receive a load of abuse, what's wrong with a little reminder of the score? Footy fans have to learn that life lesson; if you can't take it, don't give it out!!

I heard on the radio today that his injury is extricate knee ligament damage & he's out for 6 months & will miss the world cup so, the spurs fans have apparently showered more abuse at him via twitter!!

These Footy fans need to seriously grow a pair, - they're in their 30's & 40's but act like pre-teens!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are debating Dave Moyes/Man Utd on Talksport on now. It's just been reported, and it'll be in the tabloids tomorrow that Moyes is being given £200 million war chest to sort the club out

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over a year ago


"They are debating Dave Moyes/Man Utd on Talksport on now. It's just been reported, and it'll be in the tabloids tomorrow that Moyes is being given £200 million war chest to sort the club out "

and so he needs it.

15 mil for shaw

30? for mata, or a similar player

15-20 for a centre back

a replacement for dodgy van persie

wages to entice rooney to stay.

maybe another winger

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are debating Dave Moyes/Man Utd on Talksport on now. It's just been reported, and it'll be in the tabloids tomorrow that Moyes is being given £200 million war chest to sort the club out

and so he needs it.

15 mil for shaw

30? for mata, or a similar player

15-20 for a centre back

a replacement for dodgy van persie

wages to entice rooney to stay.

maybe another winger"

We don't need wingers really. Janazaj, Zaha are perfectly capable of playing week in, week out for a few months as they are very young. Look at Ronaldo and Messi for example. Yes I agree those 2 are the best in the world right now, but look at how many games they have played in a row. Same with Evra. If he can play several months non stop, why can't they? I still don't know why moyes won't pick Zaha? Maybe someone can help me out on this?

2 midfielders and a right back we need now and in the summer we need a striker and a left back. Then we can just replace players then as they leave. I don't think I player in midfield is enough even with a defender or a striker. What is obvious is that things need change now or it will get worse and the main concern is in centre midfield.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"will not finish in the top 4 agree or disagree"
Agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are debating Dave Moyes/Man Utd on Talksport on now. It's just been reported, and it'll be in the tabloids tomorrow that Moyes is being given £200 million war chest to sort the club out

and so he needs it.

15 mil for shaw

30? for mata, or a similar player

15-20 for a centre back

a replacement for dodgy van persie

wages to entice rooney to stay.

maybe another winger

We don't need wingers really. Janazaj, Zaha are perfectly capable of playing week in, week out for a few months as they are very young. Look at Ronaldo and Messi for example. Yes I agree those 2 are the best in the world right now, but look at how many games they have played in a row. Same with Evra. If he can play several months non stop, why can't they? I still don't know why moyes won't pick Zaha? Maybe someone can help me out on this?

2 midfielders and a right back we need now and in the summer we need a striker and a left back. Then we can just replace players then as they leave. I don't think I player in midfield is enough even with a defender or a striker. What is obvious is that things need change now or it will get worse and the main concern is in centre midfield."

i only mentioned another winger as, moyes doesnt seem to think zaha can cut it yet.

who knows whether he can or not, but not many of fergies BIG buys were terrible, just the ones he didnt pay a lot for (except for that italian keeper he signed, he was terrible lol)

i dont think Raphael is that bad a right back, being honest, and young enough to develop with nevilles help.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are debating Dave Moyes/Man Utd on Talksport on now. It's just been reported, and it'll be in the tabloids tomorrow that Moyes is being given £200 million war chest to sort the club out

and so he needs it.

15 mil for shaw

30? for mata, or a similar player

15-20 for a centre back

a replacement for dodgy van persie

wages to entice rooney to stay.

maybe another winger

We don't need wingers really. Janazaj, Zaha are perfectly capable of playing week in, week out for a few months as they are very young. Look at Ronaldo and Messi for example. Yes I agree those 2 are the best in the world right now, but look at how many games they have played in a row. Same with Evra. If he can play several months non stop, why can't they? I still don't know why moyes won't pick Zaha? Maybe someone can help me out on this?

2 midfielders and a right back we need now and in the summer we need a striker and a left back. Then we can just replace players then as they leave. I don't think I player in midfield is enough even with a defender or a striker. What is obvious is that things need change now or it will get worse and the main concern is in centre midfield.

i only mentioned another winger as, moyes doesnt seem to think zaha can cut it yet.

who knows whether he can or not, but not many of fergies BIG buys were terrible, just the ones he didnt pay a lot for (except for that italian keeper he signed, he was terrible lol)

i dont think Raphael is that bad a right back, being honest, and young enough to develop with nevilles help."

Zaha was rated higher than any other united player when they were on tour or any fake they played in with him in it. He was rated higher than Janaj so how come he isn't getting picked? He even said himself he picked Janaj as a last resort and put him in the team earlier than what he wanted to. It must be personal? Zaha is seeing his daughter, not sure of that's anything to do with it

Was that talibi? Veron in my opinion was worse. Far too expensive and trying to keep him and united players happy was a bit hard I found as no player then deserved to be left out. Don't get me wrong Raphael has developed alot unlike his brother who is below average as he hasn't decoupled at all in my opinion, but my point was if you were to drop him for tactical reasons, he was injured/suspended. We haven't got anyone to replace him. Yes we have Valencia, but he doesn't defend and it isn't his natural position.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

so a right back for competition rather than replacement? got ya.

forgot Veron. jesus he was a waste, for chelsea too lol

i dont know about Zaha.

i heard he had a very good preseason, but there was rumour he was interested in letting him go to another club in exchange (think it may have been everton for barkley)

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By *heekychappy1121Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

As a utd fan yes i am worried but still think we can squeak into the top 4! To do that we need van persie an rooney playing together regularly till the end of the season. If we have those two on the field we win games.... fact!!.

Hopefully come summer we can strengthen in key areas an win the league once more!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so a right back for competition rather than replacement? got ya.

forgot Veron. jesus he was a waste, for chelsea too lol

i dont know about Zaha.

i heard he had a very good preseason, but there was rumour he was interested in letting him go to another club in exchange (think it may have been everton for barkley)"

Getting rid of Zaha would be a mistake.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so a right back for competition rather than replacement? got ya.

forgot Veron. jesus he was a waste, for chelsea too lol

i dont know about Zaha.

i heard he had a very good preseason, but there was rumour he was interested in letting him go to another club in exchange (think it may have been everton for barkley)"

Zaha and Janazj are he only players who stood out pre season. Zaha more than Janazj. Same with other games Zaha played in this season. Everytime he came on the pitch he was uniteds best player by far. A lot of teams want him, including Cardiff. I am one who hope he stays. He should be starting for united now. Never mind saying he has potential long term. Barkley would be a great buy for any team. But what's the point in replacing one good player for another? I would happy to swap Nani/Young/Anderson. All 3 of them plus a cash deal for him. Saves on wages for united and it can go towards on buying Barkley. I would be very happy to see, but its unrealistic as for some reason fergie and moyes sees something in those players the fans don't

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By *RUEGENT1234Man
over a year ago

Dorset


"They are debating Dave Moyes/Man Utd on Talksport on now. It's just been reported, and it'll be in the tabloids tomorrow that Moyes is being given £200 million war chest to sort the club out

and so he needs it.

15 mil for shaw

30? for mata, or a similar player

15-20 for a centre back

a replacement for dodgy van persie

wages to entice rooney to stay.

maybe another winger"

forget Shaw, Lukey is going nowhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rumours are we've already got an agreement in place for Ryan Shawcross

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By *onny BonesMan
over a year ago

a block away from heaven

I'm no Man Utd supporter. Being Spurs I have real concerns for out season. However, difference between Moyes and Man Utd is that the club has a lot more pedigree than the manager. The job is too big for Moyes. Proven by Martinez improving Everton and the demise of Utd

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not looking good for ManU.

They can still make the champions league but it's down to the players, not the manager. This team won the league last season so no excuses.

On a personal note, I hope they don't make it! It's time for a change as was highlighted earlier. Come on Arsenal!

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

i'm no Man U fan or a David Moyes fan for that matter but give him a chance to build the team he wants ..... after all what he did with Everton on a total budget over the years of £5 and 50 pence was pretty impressive to be fair

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over a year ago


"i'm no Man U fan or a David Moyes fan for that matter but give him a chance to build the team he wants ..... after all what he did with Everton on a total budget over the years of £5 and 50 pence was pretty impressive to be fair "

Stat was for last season. United came from behind 23 times to win a game. 18 of them being victories. Moyes has taken the lead in 19 different games and didn't win any of them. Difference being moyes is more defensive minded than fergie and if you look at the wingers/full backs they are more attack minded. So they are caught in two minds at the moment. I have noticed Evra standards have slipped since moyes has taken over (maybe the rumours of his future aren't helping?) and rafael hasn't play well to his capabilities at all. He's turning united into Everton as you can see from the way things are set out. We need an established European manager who is capable of staying long term at a club.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

i guess the joke sailed over your head there crazed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i guess the joke sailed over your head there crazed "

I thought you were stating of he achieved what he did with Everton with no money. For example top 6 finish. What would he do with a lot of money to spend. My bad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"well at least all the post 93 glory hunters can go back to supporting their local teams now you know chelsea spurs plymouth carlisle etc "
bye bye glory hunter supporters. united have never been great when a new manager takes over but unlike other clubs who just sack there managers after a few month we give all of ours time and time will bring success FACT 20 TIMES

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"well at least all the post 93 glory hunters can go back to supporting their local teams now you know chelsea spurs plymouth carlisle etc bye bye glory hunter supporters. united have never been great when a new manager takes over but unlike other clubs who just sack there managers after a few month we give all of ours time and time will bring success FACT 20 TIMES"

sorry, busby and fergie apart, no other united manager has had more than 5 years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"well at least all the post 93 glory hunters can go back to supporting their local teams now you know chelsea spurs plymouth carlisle etc bye bye glory hunter supporters. united have never been great when a new manager takes over but unlike other clubs who just sack there managers after a few month we give all of ours time and time will bring success FACT 20 TIMES

sorry, busby and fergie apart, no other united manager has had more than 5 years"
5 years is a long time these days though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"well at least all the post 93 glory hunters can go back to supporting their local teams now you know chelsea spurs plymouth carlisle etc bye bye glory hunter supporters. united have never been great when a new manager takes over but unlike other clubs who just sack there managers after a few month we give all of ours time and time will bring success FACT 20 TIMES

sorry, busby and fergie apart, no other united manager has had more than 5 years 5 years is a long time these days though "

but those examples werent recently, obviously lol.

they were atkinson and docherty.

just a quick glance and i would say, conservetively, the average time, take our the 4 managers mentioned, would be about 18 months

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"well at least all the post 93 glory hunters can go back to supporting their local teams now you know chelsea spurs plymouth carlisle etc bye bye glory hunter supporters. united have never been great when a new manager takes over but unlike other clubs who just sack there managers after a few month we give all of ours time and time will bring success FACT 20 TIMES

sorry, busby and fergie apart, no other united manager has had more than 5 years 5 years is a long time these days though

but those examples werent recently, obviously lol.

they were atkinson and docherty.

just a quick glance and i would say, conservetively, the average time, take our the 4 managers mentioned, would be about 18 months"
in any time in football past or present 5 years is long enough. if you aint done nothing in that time then yes its time to look else where

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just want to see a someone brought in to to fill the void left by Scholesy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rags will not finish in top 5 this year god bless moyes and all who chose him. That Danny welbeck is a good forward ain't he lol no stop pls its hurting this laughter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

haters gonna hate! course they finish in the top four.. going threw a rough patch, moyes needs time and rvp and rooney fit!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just want to see a someone brought in to to fill the void left by Scholesy "

As fergie and the rest of the footballing nation have said "he is unique and a one off. No one will ever fill his boots". I agree with this. If you look for a player like for like there isn't one or is no where near as good. So even f we spent a lot of money buying a player. It won't make a big difference. However if we change our thinking a bit and just bought a world class player. We could adapt to suit his needs and as he would be world class he will bring Rooney/Hernandez and Van Persoe (when fit) into play.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As united fans we must remain faithful and take it game by game, including tonight! Putting a foot in the door for a trophy and a trip to wembley is a must! Hopefully moyes and the board will be able to find a decent midfielder that we want (not a panic buy!!!!) and that will install confidence and breed success! Glory glory man united!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As united fans we must remain faithful and take it game by game, including tonight! Putting a foot in the door for a trophy and a trip to wembley is a must! Hopefully moyes and the board will be able to find a decent midfielder that we want (not a panic buy!!!!) and that will install confidence and breed success! Glory glory man united!!!

"

In the past united have come from behind in tournaments as well as games to win it, which is why everyone says dont write them off. Everton in the past have gone 15 games without defeat and united have gone on a 20 game winning streak, whilst drawing a couple. So it can be done and if united do that. They'll win the treble . If I was moyes I wouldn't go "resting" players so they can play in certain games. I would just pick my best 11-18 players and keep the same side that kept winning to build momentum and just do a fergie. Take one game at a time and cross one off as they come and only change a player when he's injured/suspended or plays really badly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And the times get harder after today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are all mad..No seriously quite mad.

I have no respect for the sweaty as a person but will be the first to admit that he is the finest football manager in history, he chose Moyes to follow in his footsteps because he saw something there in himself, give the man time to rebuild the team

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You are all mad..No seriously quite mad.

I have no respect for the sweaty as a person but will be the first to admit that he is the finest football manager in history, he chose Moyes to follow in his footsteps because he saw something there in himself, give the man time to rebuild the team"

By then. No player will want to join united as what world class player will want to join a side not playing European football at all. Not only that, but they don't have much world class players l, barring Rooney/Persie, may Hernandez and de gea. All that too can have a major influence on their finances, which can make them go in rapid decline, which is why action needs to be taken now. Ok. Don't sack him yet, but we need reinforcements now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You are all mad..No seriously quite mad.

I have no respect for the sweaty as a person but will be the first to admit that he is the finest football manager in history, he chose Moyes to follow in his footsteps because he saw something there in himself, give the man time to rebuild the team

By then. No player will want to join united as what world class player will want to join a side not playing European football at all. Not only that, but they don't have much world class players l, barring Rooney/Persie, may Hernandez and de gea. All that too can have a major influence on their finances, which can make them go in rapid decline, which is why action needs to be taken now. Ok. Don't sack him yet, but we need reinforcements now. "

Man United are one of the biggest Brand names out there, Up with Coca cola, Really what Player wouldnt want to sign for them..remember the Sweaty is still running things behind the scenes so watch this space

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if a club like man u cant attract players, that is hardly the managers fault is it?

i remember when brown was put in charge of the country, and people said 'you vote for the party, not the person' well thats the same as football.

you join the club, not the manager, otherwise all the players would have left with Fergie.

the bigger problem than fergie walkign away was Gill deciding to go at the same time.

that was unforgivable and left the club deep in the shit with 2 people finding their feet.

he should have left it til this summer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You are all mad..No seriously quite mad.

I have no respect for the sweaty as a person but will be the first to admit that he is the finest football manager in history, he chose Moyes to follow in his footsteps because he saw something there in himself, give the man time to rebuild the team

By then. No player will want to join united as what world class player will want to join a side not playing European football at all. Not only that, but they don't have much world class players l, barring Rooney/Persie, may Hernandez and de gea. All that too can have a major influence on their finances, which can make them go in rapid decline, which is why action needs to be taken now. Ok. Don't sack him yet, but we need reinforcements now.

Man United are one of the biggest Brand names out there, Up with Coca cola, Really what Player wouldnt want to sign for them..remember the Sweaty is still running things behind the scenes so watch this space"

All players want to play for big clubs. This normally means massive wages as well as playing in Europe. If they carry on the way they are. They won't be playing Europe as no player will join them. The only thing that can stop them getting so bad is to finish 4th and win this cup and then qualify for the Champions League through the qualifiers. If this happens then they can rebuild and attract players. If players wanted to join united. They would have so in the summer. They didn't join because either there wasn't much money to spend, moyes didn't know what he was doing or no player wants to join united as fergie was a major influence when a player decided if they wanted to play for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

According to the BBC website, it aint Man Utd that are playing shite, or indeed Moyes being out of his depth... its all the referees fault... who'd have thunk it!

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By *irtydanMan
over a year ago

Blackpool

carry on the good work David

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

Utd will reach the final of the capital one cup . But will unfortunately get beat of city in the final

We will get knocked out of the champions league

However we will finish in the top 4 in the premier league

We will add to the squad with one possibly 2 buys this month then strengthen in the summer

We will be back with a full fit and strong squad and moyes will have full backing of the players and management

We will be champions again next year !

So all the Abu 's on here , those who hate utd cos they are so bitter and those who are getting carried away and already predicting the demise Of the greatest and finest supported club in the world

The laugh is on you !

Remember where you heard it first !!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

as Cpl Jones used to say, 'they dont like it up em'..

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire


"as Cpl Jones used to say, 'they dont like it up em'..

"

More comedy gold ?

Pfttt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Utd will reach the final of the capital one cup . But will unfortunately get beat of city in the final

We will get knocked out of the champions league

However we will finish in the top 4 in the premier league

We will add to the squad with one possibly 2 buys this month then strengthen in the summer

We will be back with a full fit and strong squad and moyes will have full backing of the players and management

We will be champions again next year !

So all the Abu 's on here , those who hate utd cos they are so bitter and those who are getting carried away and already predicting the demise Of the greatest and finest supported club in the world

The laugh is on you !

Remember where you heard it first !!"

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"as Cpl Jones used to say, 'they dont like it up em'..

More comedy gold ?

Pfttt "

thats the issue though, a lack of reality for the current situation and an inability to accept where you are now with any sort of good grace or sense of humour..

arrogance is'nt becoming..

it may well be that like other teams in the past that the 'glory days' are on the decline for man u..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The main issue to me is he let the backroom staff go, these are the people who did the hard work training the team and knew the players styles and what structures work best. De gea was by far the best goal keeper last season i dare to say we wouldn't of won the league last year without him.Teams such as Liverpool,arsenal all go years without trophies but the minute united have a bad run its the same every time.

We need to sort out defense and midfield we don't have a key play maker anymore and we can't rely on giggs.I will praise moyes for only one thing, he kept Rooney and if we hadn't we would of been screwed. we may finish 7th8t9th but i dont care ill support my team no matter what.

everyone has an opinion on united so i find it easier not to bite. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but as a united fan im fed up of hearing about moyes. leave him too it and if he fails he fails but atleast give him a chance.

He did well with everton year in year out and they had no budget, he developed players and thats what united are about.

I will only disagree with the comment about fergie hes still there as a director so he hasn't left them in it. he is still there supporting them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"those who are getting carried away and already predicting the demise Of the greatest and finest supported club in the world

The laugh is on you !

Remember where you heard it first !!"

Whats happening at Barcelona?

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire


"as Cpl Jones used to say, 'they dont like it up em'..

More comedy gold ?

Pfttt

thats the issue though, a lack of reality for the current situation and an inability to accept where you are now with any sort of good grace or sense of humour..

arrogance is'nt becoming..

it may well be that like other teams in the past that the 'glory days' are on the decline for man u..

"

Manchester United - not arrogant - just better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"as Cpl Jones used to say, 'they dont like it up em'..

More comedy gold ?

Pfttt

thats the issue though, a lack of reality for the current situation and an inability to accept where you are now with any sort of good grace or sense of humour..

arrogance is'nt becoming..

it may well be that like other teams in the past that the 'glory days' are on the decline for man u..

Manchester United - not arrogant - just better"

LFC used to say the same in their glory years before sinking to a mid table club

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire


"as Cpl Jones used to say, 'they dont like it up em'..

More comedy gold ?

Pfttt

thats the issue though, a lack of reality for the current situation and an inability to accept where you are now with any sort of good grace or sense of humour..

arrogance is'nt becoming..

it may well be that like other teams in the past that the 'glory days' are on the decline for man u..

Manchester United - not arrogant - just better

LFC used to say the same in their glory years before sinking to a mid table club "

As much as I dislike LFC

They have never been a mid table club and never will be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree but then again nor will Spurs. Good return of 4 points from them this season though. Think Man City on Home form will win title.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"as Cpl Jones used to say, 'they dont like it up em'..

More comedy gold ?

Pfttt

thats the issue though, a lack of reality for the current situation and an inability to accept where you are now with any sort of good grace or sense of humour..

arrogance is'nt becoming..

it may well be that like other teams in the past that the 'glory days' are on the decline for man u..

Manchester United - not arrogant - just better"

no, not better full stop..

had a good run in the last cpl of years..

all things come to an end..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

I like LFC..

They have never been a mid table club and never will be"

on this we are in agreement..

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire


"

I like LFC..

They have never been a mid table club and never will be

on this we are in agreement..

But I can live in hope !!

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's going to be a huge transition for the club.

Fergie leaving after being the cornerstone of the past 20 years success. Now we have Moyes who's under pressure to keep that success going and so far I feel he's crumbling.

Looks like the players don't have much confidence in him which is showing on the pitch and currently I'm the same.

I don't feel Moyes is the right manager for us.

I see him more like Allerdyce or Hodgson. They can do great with smaller teams and lack of money but when you give them bigger teams and silly money they can't perform.

In a way I'm hoping Moyes proves me wrong and I'll be waiting to see what he does in this transfer window but for the time being I'm resided to the fact United are going to struggle to challenge for the Title for the next few seasons.

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By *nJ_NW_cplCouple
over a year ago

wirral

When Liverpool last won the league it was inconceivable that they would go 5 years never mind 20+ without winning it again. No team has a right to win anything and maybe in another 20 we will be wondering what happened to man utd?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"When Liverpool last won the league it was inconceivable that they would go 5 years never mind 20+ without winning it again. No team has a right to win anything and maybe in another 20 we will be wondering what happened to man utd?"

this..

the 'winning team' is made up of many different aspects and factors, when some things change it can effect that..

when one of those things is one of the best managers the game has seen and chuck in some or all of the back room staff and it can be a big upheaval..

any team in any walk of life will equally be affected by such changes, add the 24/7 media we have with every nuance and expression of Moyes body language being under the microscope and its a tricky one..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team.

The fact is that team that won the league last year is the same team that David Moyes took over. The only difference between last year and this year is the manager!! oh and that big haired buffoon.

Simply the current manager does not have the respect of the dressing room. Moyes has won nothing, played his football in lower leagues and generally not achieved anything as a player or a manager. Ferguson was successful before he took over at united and therefore despite an initial poor run had the backing and respect of the dressing room throughout his career.

This is a simple fact of a man with no bollocks, no backbone, and no history in charge of a very successful group of international players who have no reason to give the man the repect.

Now before I get slaughtered by every glory hunting united fan whos profiles will probably say they are from outside the area I am not a united fan nor a city fan I am simply a true football fan with no biased towards the clubs involved.

Will stand here blindfolded waiting for someone to fire the first shots!

For someone who despises man utd you seem to know an awful lot

I hate Liverpool with a passion and for that reason I wouldn't entertain a forum lost with their name mentioned in it

Just goes to show that the ABU's are still around and talking nonsense once again

Fact 1 - I am not a Liverpool fan

Fact 2 - I know what im talking about cause I get paid to write about football

Fact 3 - David Moyes as a man can not attract any big names as they all ask who he is and what he has achieved and the answer is nothing and no one.

Seriously if you want to argue about the facts that are laid out on the table then you are onto a looser.

I have never said United will not bounce back and ok lets give it the old team in transition status. The truth is the players have no confidence, respect or faith in moyes and that can not be denied.

Not yet . He has been there less than 6 months and anybody knows that transition into any new post whether that be commercial business or football takes time . Changes are going to happen slowly . New management styles need to be adapted to . This isn't an overnight process .

Fergie knew this and blatantly encouraged every one in his final speech to get behind the new manager and give him time . Time is not 6 months

It's too easy to blame the current manager for a shaky start ... Scapegoat

The real reason behind the current downturn is not being competitive in the transfer market . Who is to blame for this ? Moyes? Nah the only people that have and will continue to hold Manchester United back are the glazers and that muppets Ed Woodward

Only today it's reported that he is more interested in organising the nike sponsorship deals . When realistically he should be 100% focused on the transfer market for the duration of te window

The reason he isn't and the reason why moyes has stated we will not but in January is nothing to do with the fact that they have never heard of him and will not want to come to man utd ... What a crock of shit that is ... They are the biggest club in the world !

The real reason is we are too busy paying off the debt we are in caused by one Malcolm glazer

He is the reason for this . End of

And until they go we will just have to crack on as best we can !

Again another inept and factually deficient Manchester united fan. The true united fans who have had issues with the glaziers and woodward are now supporting a true football fans club in FC United.

Don't give me this biggest club in the world crock of rubbish either cause united are not the biggest club in the world you may well be in the top 5 but will never be number 1.

Most true united fans are in agreement with me and the facts that I have put forward. The truth of the matter is that the appoint of Moyes was completed by Fergie and he is still a big part of the club however his appointment of Moyes was nothing to do with moving the club forward it was more to do with look give this lad a go he could do with a chance to see what he can do and to be fair his failure will only make fergie's rein look even better than it was.

I am not doubting the fact that fergie was the greatest manager of his generation and arguably of all time anywhere. but the man has the biggest self certified ego than the whole of mankind put together (rightly as well to a certain extent).

His final speeches were impended to make him seem sincere and that he was once a young man the truth is the game is different from when he took over and the fact that now time is money and time is not something that Moyes has got or will ever have, success is required instantly. I don't believe he will be sacked but I do believe he will have a maximum 18 months in the job unless he is at the top of the league and in at least 2 finals.

Now I will get off my high horse and will you please actually think of a decent response before you reply.

Thanks in advance."

are those true man u fans who now follow fc united the ones on banning orders who can no longer get into OT so have decided to try and bully all the "smaller" clubs they now face but have started to get their arses kicked week in week out??

moyes wont last much longer, not because he's a bad manager but because the stock market and money men at man u will not want to see their profits in free fall. The whole premier league is dictated by Sky TV and they re the ones ruining football these days, saying when teams kick off etc just so their army of fat arsed armchair fans can get their weekly fix whilst the real fans have been priced out of the game. AMF

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

The post above

Wow you certainly know your stuff !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hilarious reading the vultures circling comments

This club is going nowhere , at 53 I have seen Besr, Charlton and Law, the second division after ofarrell , mcguiness, sexton all the flops , Docherty was not one of those , sadly sacked for doing things this site would be proud of !!He possibly may have won a title with stylish attacking football

I am now not only a life long supporter but a mere customer in a mega worldwide business show

No success means no dough

No 4th place no dough Europe

This show will go on and it will only take Moyes a couple of seasons rebuild at the most , Everyone out there knows Manchester United are history and big big business

Liverpool were left behind when they failed to rebuild capacity stadiums , sell millions of shirts to Asia , China USA

60 red cafés in Asia

Utd may lose a title or two to , Chelsea , arsenal and city like over the past 10 years but we aren't going anywhere

Before I die I will see them lift another European cup like I saw in the nou camp in 99

Hope all you supporters of whosever out there get to witness what every true fan deserves

But Utd ain't going anywhere too far down again !!!!!!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

LFC used to say the same in their glory years before sinking to a mid table club "

Ben, just a thought Chelsea's 'glory years' if they are actually to have any will need to last a lot longer before their achievements even scratch at Lfc's..

passion is one thing, making outlandish claims only serve to show a lack of knowledge..

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

Funny how since the back pass rule was out lawed

The mighty LFC have not won the league

Just saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Moyes spent 11 years trying to get Everton above man utd . He then jumps ship as the chosen one joins the biggest club in England and bang 6 months later has completed task 1 on his agenda, he's even complaining about the referee's after every single game these days, all ref's are chronicle poor funny how things change when referee's ain't scared of amanager pity they bottled it for last 27 years long may it continue

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Funny how since the back pass rule was out lawed

The mighty LFC have not won the league

Just saying"

bit like saying that before the russki saved them Chelsea were a gnat's knacker away from going under..

or that Roy Keane made some iffy challenges..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really couldn't give a fuck about man utd or there fans cause just like the old firm and their fans up here in Scotland they think it's their god given right that they should win every game and if things don't go their way it's always someone else's fault. It always amazes me how guys like rvp and evra for instance come across as decent guys till they go to man utd then there attitude changed now they think they're untouchable cause they play for man utd. I can't believe fergie sold a so called mate in moyes up the river when leaving that shower of average at best shite. Just somes him up for was a cunt at st mirren and still a cunt to this day

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"I really couldn't give a fuck about man utd or there fans cause just like the old firm and their fans up here in Scotland they think it's their god given right that they should win every game and if things don't go their way it's always someone else's fault. It always amazes me how guys like rvp and evra for instance come across as decent guys till they go to man utd then there attitude changed now they think they're untouchable cause they play for man utd. I can't believe fergie sold a so called mate in moyes up the river when leaving that shower of average at best shite. Just somes him up for was a cunt at st mirren and still a cunt to this day"

He won the league with that shower of shite.

Yeah the rest were rubbish last season but even so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They wont finish in the top 4 and this comes from a lifelong United fan.

One thing people don't realise or forgot though is when United got relegated back in the 70s they were still getting bigger crowds in the second division week in week out than any team in the old first division.

To be honest glory hunters make my stomach turn so heres to a short lean spell and hopefully they will jump ship and follow City or Chelsea.

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

Just love listening g to the anti united fans making up complete nonsense

Get a grip

Best supported team now and always have been

Like the above post says consistently the best fans even when we got relegated

Yes there are thousands if numpty glory hunting fans but the real utd fans never boo or slag off the team

And that why we are a class above the rest

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

Just love listening g to the anti united fans making up complete nonsense

Get a grip

Best supported team now and always have been

Like the above post says consistently the best fans even when we got relegated

Yes there are thousands if numpty glory hunting fans but the real utd fans never boo or slag off the team

And that why we are a class above the rest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just love listening g to the anti united fans making up complete nonsense

Get a grip

Best supported team now and always have been

Like the above post says consistently the best fans even when we got relegated

Yes there are thousands if numpty glory hunting fans but the real utd fans never boo or slag off the team

And that why we are a class above the rest"

just as many calling phone in shows calling for moyes head as there is for allardyce, so not really that much above the rest.

actually really dislike fans that think they are better than others.

its bollocks

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Just love listening g to the anti united fans making up complete nonsense

Get a grip

Best supported team now and always have been

Like the above post says consistently the best fans even when we got relegated

Yes there are thousands if numpty glory hunting fans but the real utd fans never boo or slag off the team

And that why we are a class above the rest

just as many calling phone in shows calling for moyes head as there is for allardyce, so not really that much above the rest.

actually really dislike fans that think they are better than others.

its bollocks"

Quite right, im not anti utd, neither do I love them. There not better than everyone else though.

Man City, Sheff Weds, Leeds, all massive clubs that have dropped and continued to sell out. Thats just three to mention

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

who really cares ???

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"who really cares ???"

The people who have posted in this thread, including you it seems

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

david moyes has been trying for years to get everton above man united in the league... hes finally done it lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"david moyes has been trying for years to get everton above man united in the league... hes finally done it lol "

is there an echo in here?

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By *exySwing3rsCouple
over a year ago

In Your Hearts

Manchester United manager David Moyes is amongst the nominees for Barclays Premier League manager of the month for December.

No seriously he has

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just love listening g to the anti united fans making up complete nonsense

Get a grip

Best supported team now and always have been

Like the above post says consistently the best fans even when we got relegated

Yes there are thousands if numpty glory hunting fans but the real utd fans never boo or slag off the team

And that why we are a class above the rest

just as many calling phone in shows calling for moyes head as there is for allardyce, so not really that much above the rest.

actually really dislike fans that think they are better than others.

its bollocks

Quite right, im not anti utd, neither do I love them. There not better than everyone else though.

Man City, Sheff Weds, Leeds, all massive clubs that have dropped and continued to sell out. Thats just three to mention"

and wolves 28k sellout last weekend

cant see nearly 70k man u fans going each week if they start to slide, simply because a lot of fans that go know nothing of struggle.

then again, might give the real fans a chance to get in in place

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"6th or 7th.

Fergie aint no mug, he knew he was lucky last year and jumped ship, leaving a shit team.

The fact is that team that won the league last year is the same team that David Moyes took over. The only difference between last year and this year is the manager!! oh and that big haired buffoon.

Simply the current manager does not have the respect of the dressing room. Moyes has won nothing, played his football in lower leagues and generally not achieved anything as a player or a manager. Ferguson was successful before he took over at united and therefore despite an initial poor run had the backing and respect of the dressing room throughout his career.

This is a simple fact of a man with no bollocks, no backbone, and no history in charge of a very successful group of international players who have no reason to give the man the repect.

Now before I get slaughtered by every glory hunting united fan whos profiles will probably say they are from outside the area I am not a united fan nor a city fan I am simply a true football fan with no biased towards the clubs involved.

Will stand here blindfolded waiting for someone to fire the first shots!

For someone who despises man utd you seem to know an awful lot

I hate Liverpool with a passion and for that reason I wouldn't entertain a forum lost with their name mentioned in it

Just goes to show that the ABU's are still around and talking nonsense once again

Fact 1 - I am not a Liverpool fan

Fact 2 - I know what im talking about cause I get paid to write about football

Fact 3 - David Moyes as a man can not attract any big names as they all ask who he is and what he has achieved and the answer is nothing and no one.

Seriously if you want to argue about the facts that are laid out on the table then you are onto a looser.

I have never said United will not bounce back and ok lets give it the old team in transition status. The truth is the players have no confidence, respect or faith in moyes and that can not be denied.

Not yet . He has been there less than 6 months and anybody knows that transition into any new post whether that be commercial business or football takes time . Changes are going to happen slowly . New management styles need to be adapted to . This isn't an overnight process .

Fergie knew this and blatantly encouraged every one in his final speech to get behind the new manager and give him time . Time is not 6 months

It's too easy to blame the current manager for a shaky start ... Scapegoat

The real reason behind the current downturn is not being competitive in the transfer market . Who is to blame for this ? Moyes? Nah the only people that have and will continue to hold Manchester United back are the glazers and that muppets Ed Woodward

Only today it's reported that he is more interested in organising the nike sponsorship deals . When realistically he should be 100% focused on the transfer market for the duration of te window

The reason he isn't and the reason why moyes has stated we will not but in January is nothing to do with the fact that they have never heard of him and will not want to come to man utd ... What a crock of shit that is ... They are the biggest club in the world !

The real reason is we are too busy paying off the debt we are in caused by one Malcolm glazer

He is the reason for this . End of

And until they go we will just have to crack on as best we can !

I think Moye's will get it right but he will need time. Filainie was a panic buy and I don't class him as the type of player associated with Man U. The new chief exec has left Man U on a shitty state he left china early to sort out the signings and didn't get it done until 5 weeks later in the last hour and brought someone not right for the club. Ozil would have been a better buy someone to take over from scoles. Not sure on Zarha as well as you have so many players already in this position. Think 6th this year then back to business the following, "

You don't get time anymore, you can't expect him to be given 3 seasons to build as the money implications are massive. if Utd fail to qualify for the Champions League it will be a disaster, they won't be able to attract 'top' players as they won't have the lure of the CL or Sir Alex which will make qualifying for it next season even harder. Lean times ahead I am afraid

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over a year ago

Let's be honest you maybe most supported team but for the best supported team what a load of pish hence the reason yous are trying to set up a singing stand. Typical man utd fans always think they're the best at everything just like I say again the old firm up here that's why you're the most hated by all football fans. Having attended 70/80 english premier league games over the years yous aren't even in the top 4. Newcastle west ham Liverpool Sunderland are by far better supporters of they're club's than yous will ever be and that's from my own personal experiences

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over a year ago

all this talk about not being able to attract the best players without champs league football, its a little misleading dont you think?

suarez and coutinho joined liverpool without it, and have resigned contracts without the promise of it too, 2 of the best players in the league at the moment.

how did they get those players?

because they were joining liverpool.

its the club.

if man u cant attract players, its nothing to do with the manager, the football or the club, its because they are being offered more money elsewhere, and, personally, even though i only support lowly albion, i wouldnt want a mercenary player at my club (although we have at the moment)

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire


"Let's be honest you maybe most supported team but for the best supported team what a load of pish hence the reason yous are trying to set up a singing stand. Typical man utd fans always think they're the best at everything just like I say again the old firm up here that's why you're the most hated by all football fans. Having attended 70/80 english premier league games over the years yous aren't even in the top 4. Newcastle west ham Liverpool Sunderland are by far better supporters of they're club's than yous will ever be and that's from my own personal experiences"

I think if you look at statistics and records of attendances including away fixtures

It will prove you wrong .

Sick of hearing Newcastle mentioned in the same breath . You read too many papers

Do a check of when they were in the lower leagues and look at their attendances then

Do the same with man city -- they are worse ! Do the research instead of gobbling off about your opinion

Liverpool as much as I don't like are the only club I agree have a decent following , but even they don't stand up to the figures and facts when it compares to man utd

As for the singing section ... Your right . We are trying it and pushing for it because that's what's wrong with today's supporters - have no interest in anything remotely resembling a genuine utd fan

We are trying our best to reclaim our club and return as close as we can to the days is genuine fans treasure with fond memories

I've said it before I'd happily win nothing for a few seasons if football and how it used to be could return

Sadly sky and foreign owners of clubs have ruined it

Try and not knock fans for trying to do something about it

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford


"just my 2 penneth, from a football fan not a fan of united or any of their main rivals.

the current team are 2 years past their prime.

3 of the back 4 are past it, he should be playing the likes of smalling and evans in the middle week in, week out, so they get used to it.

fergie has ruined the midfield by not addressing a situation he could see 5 years ago. there isnt a decent central midfield there worthy of the shirt. kagawa is a waste of time, carrick and cleverley pedestrian. personally, i like the look of jones in front of the back 4, so he should be played there for a succession of games, if they can keep him fit.

its a sign of the man that he is getting a tune out of Young, and even rooney, which is a situation that isnt helping.

fergie, and now moyes made a HUGE mistake in putting rvp on a higher pedestal than roo as the latter stays fitter for longer. personally, moyes should tell roo he is his number 1 man, as he knits the team much better than van persie ever will, get him to sign another contract, and if a decent bid for van persie comes in, rip their arms off. play welbeck/hernandez with roo. this window, moyes needs that creative midfielder (maybe mata?) and a central defender. let ferdinand and vidic go

tie evra to another year, try to get that lad from southampton at left back (shaw, at 29 Baines is a waste of money).

as a football fan, thats my opinions anyway"
and ..... you have the job lol easy from an arm chair isnt it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I said best supported clubs I mean fans that sing at games back their team win lose or draw so that for for me is a better supported club than 70, 000 man utd sitting twiddling their thumbs. What you must remember is best isn't always the biggest lol

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire


"When I said best supported clubs I mean fans that sing at games back their team win lose or draw so that for for me is a better supported club than 70, 000 man utd sitting twiddling their thumbs. What you must remember is best isn't always the biggest lol"

This is now me being unbiased

A true picture

In all my time supporting united home and away I have never heard the fans boo the team

Unlike most other teams I've witnessed

This isn't a myth but what I've genuinely experienced

Season ticket holder for 25 years . Used to be a league match ticket book holder back in the day

I totally agree now that the glory hunters and day trippers have taken over

At one point our only solice was away days were 3 - 5 000 genuine hardcore reds went away

Even this is now being infiltrated by the day trippers from Asia and Norway and Ireland

Very little we can do . But what we can do is try

Genuine fans will never slag the team . Instead get behind them

Those who go on radio calling for the head of moyes aren't genuine utd fans

More the johnny come lately muppets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry to disagree again but did man utd fans not boo the team on Sunday against Swansea? I'm sure they spoke about it after the game along with the panel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"all this talk about not being able to attract the best players without champs league football, its a little misleading dont you think?

suarez and coutinho joined liverpool without it, and have resigned contracts without the promise of it too, 2 of the best players in the league at the moment.

how did they get those players?

because they were joining liverpool.

its the club.

if man u cant attract players, its nothing to do with the manager, the football or the club, its because they are being offered more money elsewhere, and, personally, even though i only support lowly albion, i wouldnt want a mercenary player at my club (although we have at the moment)"

Not true, Suarez wasn't great when he joined, his new contract means jack shit, the truly 'top' class players won't join teams out of the CL, unless they pay silly wages, which Utd won't.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Correct, contracts don't stand for much these days.

Bale signed a new one last season I think - he left.

Suarez will go if Liverpool arn't top 4 I think..

Credit to Gerrad for sticking with LFC with or without CL football

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"just my 2 penneth, from a football fan not a fan of united or any of their main rivals.

the current team are 2 years past their prime.

3 of the back 4 are past it, he should be playing the likes of smalling and evans in the middle week in, week out, so they get used to it.

fergie has ruined the midfield by not addressing a situation he could see 5 years ago. there isnt a decent central midfield there worthy of the shirt. kagawa is a waste of time, carrick and cleverley pedestrian. personally, i like the look of jones in front of the back 4, so he should be played there for a succession of games, if they can keep him fit.

its a sign of the man that he is getting a tune out of Young, and even rooney, which is a situation that isnt helping.

fergie, and now moyes made a HUGE mistake in putting rvp on a higher pedestal than roo as the latter stays fitter for longer. personally, moyes should tell roo he is his number 1 man, as he knits the team much better than van persie ever will, get him to sign another contract, and if a decent bid for van persie comes in, rip their arms off. play welbeck/hernandez with roo. this window, moyes needs that creative midfielder (maybe mata?) and a central defender. let ferdinand and vidic go

tie evra to another year, try to get that lad from southampton at left back (shaw, at 29 Baines is a waste of money).

as a football fan, thats my opinions anyway and ..... you have the job lol easy from an arm chair isnt it "

i honestly wouldnt want a job like that, simply because no matter what you do, you cant please everyone.

that said, i have won the premier league with albion for 4 years lol

seriously, though, if the casual observer can see whats wrong at some clubs, then why cant those that are involved with them day to day?

completely mystifies me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree moyes will be sacked end of season

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Agree moyes will be sacked end of season"

Wrong move I think, unless it's a big big name.

You'd just be going back a year.

He's been unlucky with RVP, take him out of last years title winning team and they would be in a similar mess now.

New backroom staff and coaches, new manager and its being compared with arguably the best manager ever.

Things take time to be built. I wish there were rules on when you can move mangers, think of it as a window like we have for transfers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Agree moyes will be sacked end of season"

you are thinking of the wrong united lol

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire


"Correct, contracts don't stand for much these days.

Bale signed a new one last season I think - he left.

Suarez will go if Liverpool arn't top 4 I think..

Credit to Gerrad for sticking with LFC with or without CL football"

Is this the same Steven gerrard who put in a transfer request ?

Only to bottle it as he was threatened by gangsters in Liverpool's underworld

Gerrard is a good player . And that's it . He is far from world class and this is proven . You only have to see him in big games when he goes missing

He's good against Stoke and Sunderland and teams like that .

Gerrard will retire after spending his life at LFC but the difference between him and giggs is when giggs shows is grand kids all his medals

Gerrard will have only one or 2

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep dont we all everyone in leeds would love that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Correct, contracts don't stand for much these days.

Bale signed a new one last season I think - he left.

Suarez will go if Liverpool arn't top 4 I think..

Credit to Gerrad for sticking with LFC with or without CL football

Is this the same Steven gerrard who put in a transfer request ?

Only to bottle it as he was threatened by gangsters in Liverpool's underworld

Gerrard is a good player . And that's it . He is far from world class and this is proven . You only have to see him in big games when he goes missing

He's good against Stoke and Sunderland and teams like that .

Gerrard will retire after spending his life at LFC but the difference between him and giggs is when giggs shows is grand kids all his medals

Gerrard will have only one or 2"

sorry, this is something we will never agree on.

gerrard is was a world class player in an average team.

he single handedly won the final against milan, and if it hadnt been for the liverpool/man u rivalry, im almost certain fergie would have tried to spirit him away from anfield at any time in the last 10 years.

when you say giggs grandkids, do you mean his kids kids or his brothers kids kids;-) lol

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over a year ago

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire


"Correct, contracts don't stand for much these days.

Bale signed a new one last season I think - he left.

Suarez will go if Liverpool arn't top 4 I think..

Credit to Gerrad for sticking with LFC with or without CL football

Is this the same Steven gerrard who put in a transfer request ?

Only to bottle it as he was threatened by gangsters in Liverpool's underworld

Gerrard is a good player . And that's it . He is far from world class and this is proven . You only have to see him in big games when he goes missing

He's good against Stoke and Sunderland and teams like that .

Gerrard will retire after spending his life at LFC but the difference between him and giggs is when giggs shows is grand kids all his medals

Gerrard will have only one or 2

sorry, this is something we will never agree on.

gerrard is was a world class player in an average team.

he single handedly won the final against milan, and if it hadnt been for the liverpool/man u rivalry, im almost certain fergie would have tried to spirit him away from anfield at any time in the last 10 years.

when you say giggs grandkids, do you mean his kids kids or his brothers kids kids;-) lol"

Lol ... Maybe

But your right we won't agree .world class players are the likes of messi Ronaldo . Vieira. Gatusso , Xavier and Iniesta

Any world class player gets hunted and the big European teams end up with them

Money talks and even Liverpool wouldn't have turned down a 50 - 70 million bid for gerrard

Truth is nobody has hunted him and you got to ask why ?

Truth is he is a very good player in a very average team

Take a look at most if the BIG games he's played in 99% of the time he goes missing ... Just take a look you will see.

World class's players are there to see

Gerard I'm afraid is not amongst the world class elite

Look at and search online for world dream teams

See if you can find him !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I seem to remember gerrard scoring some important goals..particularly in cup finals... Scored a scorcher against man united too.

Alonso, Gerrard and Torres were a force for a short while...and agreed and Stevie never looked out of place amongst good players. Most teams would have loved Gerrard when he was in his prime...Chelsea almost had him...how different his career may have been.

Still, he's won his fair share of medals, without playing for the best 2/3 teams in the premiership.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll have to respectfully disagree that gattuso is better than Steven Gerrard.

We never heard about bids for scholes either.. I doubt if lessers players had interest but Gerrard didn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

at his peak gerrard was linked with madrid, juve and milan, at one time or another.

thats the problem with world teams and so on, they tend to only look at players in big teams.

you really think messi or ronaldo would get the adulation if they were in average teams?

no, because they dont play out of themselves.

neither have taken a game by the scruff of the neck and won it, mostly need other good players around them to help them look good.

how many united players have been courted over the last 10 years by big european clubs?

ronaldo

thats pretty much it.

anyway, we are getting off the point here, i dont think moyes should go, full stop.

the club need to back him for the next 2 transfer windows, both in what he is trying to do, and with cash.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im not a DM reader, but this was a relevant article...

Par example: he scored 6 times against united...not too shabby for a midfielder. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2473158/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Steven-Gerrard--stats-prove-Fergie-wrong.html

Anyway sorry..back to the thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"at his peak gerrard was linked with madrid, juve and milan, at one time or another.

thats the problem with world teams and so on, they tend to only look at players in big teams.

you really think messi or ronaldo would get the adulation if they were in average teams?

no, because they dont play out of themselves.

neither have taken a game by the scruff of the neck and won it, mostly need other good players around them to help them look good.

how many united players have been courted over the last 10 years by big european clubs?

ronaldo

thats pretty much it.

anyway, we are getting off the point here, i dont think moyes should go, full stop.

the club need to back him for the next 2 transfer windows, both in what he is trying to do, and with cash."

I agree, any manager needs time and the full support of fans and the board when they start...2 full seasons should be plenty for moyes to make his mark, one way or another...

If he fails to qualify for champs lge twice....then perhaps things need to be looked at...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"at his peak gerrard was linked with madrid, juve and milan, at one time or another.

thats the problem with world teams and so on, they tend to only look at players in big teams.

you really think messi or ronaldo would get the adulation if they were in average teams?

no, because they dont play out of themselves.

neither have taken a game by the scruff of the neck and won it, mostly need other good players around them to help them look good.

how many united players have been courted over the last 10 years by big european clubs?

ronaldo

thats pretty much it.

anyway, we are getting off the point here, i dont think moyes should go, full stop.

the club need to back him for the next 2 transfer windows, both in what he is trying to do, and with cash.

I agree, any manager needs time and the full support of fans and the board when they start...2 full seasons should be plenty for moyes to make his mark, one way or another...

If he fails to qualify for champs lge twice....then perhaps things need to be looked at..."

I think 10 years would be far better even if it god forbid brings relegation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

always makes me laugh, the tribalism in football.

im a football fan firstly, and i would rather the best teams be in the top league, whether that include my team or not, or indeed our biggest rivals.

i wouldnt care.

would rather have wolves in the top flight playing great footy than stoke!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does this qualify as a man only thread!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"always makes me laugh, the tribalism in football.

im a football fan firstly, and i would rather the best teams be in the top league"

Don't the best teams get into the top flight and stay there as being better than others or the best as you put it mean you beat the lesser teams and stop there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not necessarily no.

some teams have been relegated playing fantastic football.

others have been able to stay up playing 5-1-4.

make of that what you will

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

I'll finish off with a bit of trivia for all the doubters

For the first 31 games of their managerial career at united these are the number of games won

Moyes 18

Busby 15

Atkinson 14

Ferguson 12

Sexton 12

Docherty 10

I'll say no more

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