FabSwingers.com forum: Holidays WITH kids vs Holidays WITHOUT

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Think this might get different responses based on if you have them or not but i'll ask it anyway..

Ive never been abroad on holiday but after the whole Maccan thing its kinda scared me, even a recent festive break to Butlins i was on my guard more than ever, watching her every single move. Certainly not relaxing but was nice enough and we have great memories from that.

As a parent though id feel guilty (i think) for going away somewhere without my child. Understand for couples its important to refresh and keep your relationships alive so 'you' time is ideal.

So just asking a general question really.. also if you dont have kids do you tend to avoid family holidays and go on adult breaks only? xx

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By *r Mahogany70Man
over a year ago

Leicester

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

My daughter is all grown up so I have become accustomed to travelling on my own sans child. I tend to do my own thing and never go for package deals as I like the freedom to choose what to do and when. An ideal holiday for me is to pile the car with a couple of bags, grab my passport and just get on a ferry - I just drive around - Northern France is a favourite, though have been as far as Poland - and never book hotels, just find them on the way. And as I work with children on a daily basis it is nice to avoid them whilst I am away.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I don't have kids but I like going away with my niece and nephew. I love playing with them, teaching them things etc.

If I did have children I don't think I could go away for more than a weekend without them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like to spend as much time as I can with my daughter

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My daughter is all grown up so I have become accustomed to travelling on my own sans child. I tend to do my own thing and never go for package deals as I like the freedom to choose what to do and when. An ideal holiday for me is to pile the car with a couple of bags, grab my passport and just get on a ferry - I just drive around - Northern France is a favourite, though have been as far as Poland - and never book hotels, just find them on the way. And as I work with children on a daily basis it is nice to avoid them whilst I am away."

that idea scares me.. id have to have everything planned where im going, where im staying, id need to budget rigorously..

out of interest would you have been just as chilled out and free spirited when you were early twenties or has this come with age and self belief/confidence?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My husband and I hadn't had a holiday in four years and really needed a break after having two children in quick succession. We decided to go alone and our families stepped in to look after the kids whilst we were away. We felt it wouldn't really be a holiday with a 3 and 1 year old with us and could end up being a huge waste of money. We went alone and it was amazing . Missed the kids but enjoyed the break. This year we will go on a villa type holiday with another couple with children the same ages so we can all have a turn at babysitting/having a break plus entertain each other

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By *r Mahogany70Man
over a year ago

Leicester

"Think this might get different responses based on if you have them or not but i'll ask it anyway..

As a parent though id feel guilty (i think) for going away somewhere without my child. Understand for couples its important to refresh and keep your relationships alive so 'you' time is ideal.

So just asking a general question really.. also if you dont have kids do you tend to avoid family holidays and go on adult breaks only? xx "

You being constantly on guard speaks volumes about your parenting. In a good way.

As much as I enjoyed my holidays with my kids I'd have also enjoyed some 'us' time with the ex wife but she could never bring herself to leave them with a trusted relative.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We always have a week off without the kids during summer. They stay with the grandparents so it is OK.

We really treasure our time alone and try to go out on a regular basis for some quiet time away from them. This usually means a meal out everyother week or so.

Having said that it is also great to holiday with the kids. I am not paranoid about security but obviously it is never as relaxing when they are around.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think this might get different responses based on if you have them or not but i'll ask it anyway..

As a parent though id feel guilty (i think) for going away somewhere without my child. Understand for couples its important to refresh and keep your relationships alive so 'you' time is ideal.

So just asking a general question really.. also if you dont have kids do you tend to avoid family holidays and go on adult breaks only? xx "

Without definitely and when you have grown up kids even better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you have children then they need to be with you. It's part of the joy of parenthood, showing and teaching kids new things in life and sharing experiences with them. It's all part of building happy childhood memories that they can look back on in life. xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I don't have kids but I like going away with my niece and nephew. I love playing with them, teaching them things etc.

If I did have children I don't think I could go away for more than a weekend without them. "

you'll make a lush mum one day.. just a hunch from the way you talk about your family

anyways back to post.. i had a weekend away and still couldnt relax as i was far away and felt like id never forgive myself if something went tits up and i couldnt get back.. plus i still phoned each night to say goodnight. i just have issues 'relaxing' i think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fair play to you. I have done this before having daughter and wouldn't hesitate again. It's very liberating and fun.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

that idea scares me.. id have to have everything planned where im going, where im staying, id need to budget rigorously..

out of interest would you have been just as chilled out and free spirited when you were early twenties or has this come with age and self belief/confidence?"

Never had the money to do that then as I was a single mum - but did do a little travelling in Britain with her when I could afford it. Then though, it was by train as I couldn't drive. Probably why my daughter feels confident also travelling alone - most recently to New York. She loved it. It can be nerve-wracking at first but you just get used to it.

I went to visit a friend in Oz several times and when there just hired a car and disappeared for a couple of weeks. I drove along the Queensland coast and saw some fantastic Australian countryside. On the way home I spent 3 days in Singapore on my own. Had a lovely time though it was very hot and humid.

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

We have never have been on a package holiday we take great holidays suitable for all of us.

Because we have kids we have to take holidays when the kids are off school.

However we may take an adult break not an "adult" holiday.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We always have a week off without the kids during summer. They stay with the grandparents so it is OK.

We really treasure our time alone and try to go out on a regular basis for some quiet time away from them. This usually means a meal out everyother week or so.

Having said that it is also great to holiday with the kids. I am not paranoid about security but obviously it is never as relaxing when they are around."

i used to love staying at my grandparents during the summer holidays.. great memories. Was a holiday for me visiting Devon, used to get spoilt rotten lol

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

"Think this might get different responses based on if you have them or not but i'll ask it anyway..

As a parent though id feel guilty (i think) for going away somewhere without my child. Understand for couples its important to refresh and keep your relationships alive so 'you' time is ideal.

So just asking a general question really.. also if you dont have kids do you tend to avoid family holidays and go on adult breaks only? xx "

I wouldn't let the McCann put you off, not too sure what to write since you mentioned "THEM"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surpose it depends on how old they are , it can be stressful with little ones, but we go as a family , but then go away for long weekends on our own to keep us sane lol

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By *an and wifeyCouple
over a year ago

n lincs

We treated the mother and father in law to a holiday with us and the kids a good few years ago and as a thank you they looked after ours while we went away for a week our selves. Nowa days we take the 1's that want to come usually the youngest 2 to the beach, theme parks etc but we have the odd break to adults only butlins just to get away from kids in general so we can let our hair down and enjoy our selves.

We took the kids to butlins befor and our kids had a kerfew of 9 o'clock. They would be in the chalet we would go out for few drinks. But you still have family's out till 1/2 o'clock in the morning. Toddlers wandering about on there own while parents getting d*unk and staggering about. That put us off family holidays like that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I wouldn't let the McCann put you off, not too sure what to write since you mentioned "THEM""

guess i just used that as its a high profile case of child abduction..

tragically it happens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love my holidays with the kids but like getting away on my own also as they are very different experiences.

Ive never felt guilty as i tend to take my solo hols when the kids are on hols with the ex or something

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By *hecat007Woman
over a year ago

Round the corner

As a single mum I took my daughter with me on every holiday until she left school and grew out of the idea and decided it was no longer cool . Now she's a 25 year old dependant lady single no kids either we both go on seperate fun filled holidays apart from each other and swap stories as well as holiday pics and the occasional knowing wink

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have three kids in the age of 12, 9 and 4. We are lucky enought to have my mother in law staying with us for a while so we can have our own time to go out to have dinner, or arrange a meet.

We recently came back from a trip to Dubai and London to celebrate the NYE and our kids stayed with their aunt for 5 days and they did not want to go home.

Of course we missed our children a lot but we really need time for our selves doing adult things. Makes us much better as parents and the kids need to be away from their parents as well to spend time with relatives who love them.

My husband and I try to do some small trips by ourselves but we take our kids with us sometimes, especially summertime where we always travel to Mallorca for 2 weeks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your be fine as long as you dont leave your kids in the apartment while you go out to eat and get pissed like the people you mentioned

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Firstly lets deal with the Madeleine McCann issue. Being over protective does not make you a bad parent but what is the likelihood of your child being abducted? Probably less chance than your vehicle having a collision. Movies like Taken do no help people's anxiety either!

In terms of holidays with family then we find that as long as we are switched off from work and relaxed then the kids have a great time. One of our best holidays was a simple weekend in Bournemouth in the summer simply because we were not stressed out about adult things and the children sensed it. Your kids will probably appreciate a holiday anywhere as long as they get a change of environment.

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

For me getting the kids and I on holiday is a big deal so not in the position to then afford another trip for myself. My kids are primary and high school age.

I think if you are lucky enough to have plenty of money to be able to do a trip away just the two of you as well then great.

Mind you. There is just the one of me so a holiday alone doesn't sound good.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

4kids all but one gone now, son still at home is 21 so we don't holl together anymore,

when they were young holidays were fun visiting theme parks beaches ect

now we have as much fun but it tends to be adult fun nude holliday parks nude beaches and clubs ,

its nice to have gran kids now and then too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Since we became parents the longest without our kids has been 1 night and we can't wait to get them back the next day its great seeing the excitement on their faces, I don't think we could spend more than a weekend away and even then we would have to call them every day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Days out without the kids, yes. Holiday, no way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We always had family holidays the last one included daughter's boyfriend too. last year was first time for years me and oh had a holiday alone together, I was a bit worried while we were away even though son is 26. Had the odd night out when they were little but they stayed with my parents so I was totally relaxed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think this might get different responses based on if you have them or not but i'll ask it anyway..

As a parent though id feel guilty (i think) for going away somewhere without my child. Understand for couples its important to refresh and keep your relationships alive so 'you' time is ideal.

So just asking a general question really.. also if you dont have kids do you tend to avoid family holidays and go on adult breaks only? xx

I very much doubt you put down an "open invitation" for someone to "steal" your kid whilst you got d*unk! But kids can be fun, but also a pain, I can't understand people putting babies on planes to hot countries, seems ridiculous to me and they won't remember it"

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

I wouldn't let the McCann put you off, not too sure what to write since you mentioned "THEM"

guess i just used that as its a high profile case of child abduction..

tragically it happens

It does happen, unfortunately you don't hear about the 100s of cases every year, no matter which side of the fence you're sitting on and the jury is still out, they were totally foolish parents who should have been charged with neglect at least.

With all it being legal and they have very good lawyers its difficult to discuss such people.

if you look after your children then all should be ok.

We have travelled the world with our children,

However a scary thing did happen a few years back in Disney we were walking and there was a sudden rush of people at a walking junction with people walking all over the place, our eldest got lost, highly scary moment and we looked and looked and looked and asked, 20 mins later he was at a meeting point for lost children.

he had contact details etc.

We had tears running down our faces.

We just couldn't stop looking, something strangely enough the mccans didn't do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i wish i was brave enough to holiday on my own, i didnt have a holiday last year was the first year on my own, but will get away with friends this year i hope.

good for you being brave and confident enough.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

im mentally trying to work out the perfect age to go to Disneyland..

wondering if at 4yrs old she'd remember any of it without the assistance of photo's in later life,, but at this age where she is currently obsessed with princesses she will be over the moon.

if i left it for a few years, she would have more understanding of 'do not run off' and be generally more compliant.. but would she have lost some of the passion for disney that she has now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"im mentally trying to work out the perfect age to go to Disneyland..

wondering if at 4yrs old she'd remember any of it without the assistance of photo's in later life,, but at this age where she is currently obsessed with princesses she will be over the moon.

if i left it for a few years, she would have more understanding of 'do not run off' and be generally more compliant.. but would she have lost some of the passion for disney that she has now?

I think when they are tall enough to ride all the rides, thats the best time, before that and they'll be missing out x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We always took the children and when they were ready for bed one of both of us went and stayed with them. No issues of safety there because they were never left alone!

I had my first girls holiday after my marriage broke down and it was amazing. This year I'm taking my 16yr old when she finishes her gcse's before the school holidays start

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As someone who doesn't have children, I chose to holiday when I know most are still in school, term time. My last few holidays were on my own and I luvd it. Mixing with people who didn't have children to worry about or running around certainly made the experience more enjoyable for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't let the McCann put you off, not too sure what to write since you mentioned "THEM"

guess i just used that as its a high profile case of child abduction..

tragically it happens

With all it being legal and they have very good lawyers its difficult to discuss such people.

if you look after your children then all should be ok.

We have travelled the world with our children,

he had contact details etc.

We had tears running down our faces.

We just couldn't stop looking, something strangely enough the mccans didn't do."

When I take the kids and sometimes their mates out to theme parks etc, I give each of them my mobile number to put in their pocket in case we get separated, and tell them to speak to someone in theme park uniform and ask them to call me. Some places to do wrist bands to put your number on, or you can get the wrist bands cheaply from ebay.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

he had contact details etc.

We had tears running down our faces.

We just couldn't stop looking, something strangely enough the mccans didn't do."

when i went away recently, my mum spilt her drink on the table, i jumped up.. took my eyes off my daughter for all of 10seconds and she'd vanished. Blind panic and yeah i cried.. worst feeling ever!!

bet that was the scariest 20mins of your lives.

im just thinking about going disneyland but not sure whats the right age.

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

"im mentally trying to work out the perfect age to go to Disneyland..

wondering if at 4yrs old she'd remember any of it without the assistance of photo's in later life,, but at this age where she is currently obsessed with princesses she will be over the moon.

if i left it for a few years, she would have more understanding of 'do not run off' and be generally more compliant.. but would she have lost some of the passion for disney that she has now?

I think 4 is slightly too young to appreciate it, only just by a couple of years, we have been to Disney Florida several times with children of all ages, ours is now 5 and we aim to go in a few years time.

So we could all appreciate it.

sizes etc.

We normally rent a villa which is massive with swimming pool, and can accomodate 2 or more families.:D

If you need any help advice more than happy to help.

The dibb is great for info, safety

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By *abrina59TV/TS
over a year ago

moved to cuckold land

When kids were younger always saw holidays as oppertunity to spend as much time with them so would get away from doors with them often using the £9.50 holidays from another thread.

Always thought staying at home during hols meant kids would just go out and play and not get time with them

Now they grown up get away on own as often as we can

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

often wondered with the gps technology that if theme parks/holiday camps would ever introduce tags to be worn with a chip containing information/contact details.

if one leaves a park it alerts someone, but at the same time you can locate accurately where a child is within a large venue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't let the McCann put you off, not too sure what to write since you mentioned "THEM"

guess i just used that as its a high profile case of child abduction..

tragically it happens

With all it being legal and they have very good lawyers its difficult to discuss such people.

if you look after your children then all should be ok.

We have travelled the world with our children,

he had contact details etc.

We had tears running down our faces.

We just couldn't stop looking, something strangely enough the mccans didn't do.

The wristbands are a good idea never had things like that when mine were little you just didn't relax. lost my son on a beach when he was about 3 1/2. Worst 20 mins of our life as we had a baby in tow and all our stuff. Lifeguards were brilliant though they found him

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"im mentally trying to work out the perfect age to go to Disneyland..

wondering if at 4yrs old she'd remember any of it without the assistance of photo's in later life,, but at this age where she is currently obsessed with princesses she will be over the moon.

if i left it for a few years, she would have more understanding of 'do not run off' and be generally more compliant.. but would she have lost some of the passion for disney that she has now?

I think when they are tall enough to ride all the rides, thats the best time, before that and they'll be missing out x"

This!! We went three times to America and on the last time my dad said 'right, has everyone been on all the rides?' 'yes' we said. 'good cos it's taken 3 trips for you all to be tall enough, we ain't coming again!!!'

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

St the end of the day of you stopped doing things because something bad happened to someone else you would never do things.

Learn from stories like the McCann's but don't let it ruin yours or your Littlefield experience of life. Otherwise you may find that it has passed you by.

From what you post on here you are a great Mum. Just relax and enjoy your family.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mmm lucky you having the choice. Not really on my radar though. Have kids then bring them up don't palm them off. Your responsibility 24/7

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Mmm lucky you having the choice. Not really on my radar though. Have kids then bring them up don't palm them off. Your responsibility 24/7

Having the choice? i dont, im a single parent, i work and only help with childcare i have is nursery or my elderly grandparents who wouldnt survive a few days with her..

just asked a question. i dont 'palm' her off at all.. not had a night out in around 6 months now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I no longer go camping at peak holiday periods, except for the Easter weekend, as it is usually too early and cold for those critters and ankle biters that are not very hardy.

Cheaper and quieter, bliss!

Some kids and parents are very well behaved, however, there will always be those who are less considerate for fellow campers. They seem to forget tents are not very sound-proof.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Right

Well we all have things in our real life but I really don't need to share it on a forum.

It's all quite understandable - your reaction- wouldnt expect anything less.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My advice on holidays is children under 10 should never be taken anywhere exotic. A kids club a pool and a beach are all they need. You may make the occasional day trip or long weekend to Disneyland or Legoland etc. but they are just as happy with a bucket and spade. Also try to only go self catering, hotel food is a problem for young kids not just in type but timing as well.

Losing kids even for a minute in the supermarket is horrid, but it does happen. in any child friendly place the staff / life guards etc. are well used to it. Always make sure you have an established meeting place and what ever id system you can muster point out the lifeguard / lost kids / staff uniforms for the first couple of days (when excited they do forget so don't just say it once)

As they get older then maybe a bit of culture and travel is possible / sensible but they still really want family type resorts.

Try if you can to get one short break a year without the kids, they will have a great time with gran or aunty etc. and you should go where kids are not allowed, you don't need constant reminders that your child isn't with you... also it's quite amazing the number of people we know who's kids have grown up who have forgotten how to have fun without them!

Once the kids leave home avoid kids go to adult centric places you have earned it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Holidays are with her ... I have her 95% of the time anyway. To be honest I couldn't afford it anyway

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Right

Well we all have things in our real life but I really don't need to share it on a forum.

It's all quite understandable - your reaction- wouldnt expect anything less.

woahhh what did i say that was so bad?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"im mentally trying to work out the perfect age to go to Disneyland.."

Go twice, 5 - 6 years old for the characters and 10+ for the rides.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I had one holiday with the daughter and one without. Still do, even though she's left home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Lol

feel free to pm me if you have an issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Last year was the first year I went on holiday without one or both of the kids, they are 24 and 18. Holiday times meant family time for me, so that meant all of us. I didn't find it at all stressful.

I dont mind children on holiday either. If I want to sunbath I tend to go on popular beaches, I like to see and hear the sounds of a beach, kids laughing and playing, Bob Marley music, smell of suntan oil, beach traders selling things, I like all that because I like watching people.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Lol

feel free to pm me if you have an issue. "

Ignore the trip trapping cute. Nothing you have said has been out of line.

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By *Kgirl80Woman
over a year ago

South Coast

I think I'd have felt terribly guilty going away without my son when he was younger - even the odd night apart felt awful!

He's 15 now, and we still go away together but I've also recently been away on a few hen weekends without him.

I'm not sure I'd plan an actual holiday without him - I figure his enjoyment and access to exciting life experiences is my responsibility until he's 18. So if there's money/plans for a holiday, I'd want to include him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol

Sorry I intruded in to this thread but I thought we lived in a country of free speech

Cliques - love em

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Lol

Sorry I intruded in to this thread but I thought we lived in a country of free speech

Cliques - love em

it is free speech, its just free flowing conversation with people adding new points of view

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Lol

Sorry I intruded in to this thread but I thought we lived in a country of free speech

Cliques - love em

If you're only contribution to the post is to have a go at the OP then yes, we are going to comment on it a bit. If you have a problem with the post then say why, don't just leave snarky comments. Its boring.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lol

Sorry I intruded in to this thread but I thought we lived in a country of free speech

Cliques - love em

it is free speech, its just free flowing conversation with people adding new points of view "

Exactly

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over a year ago

"Lol

Sorry I intruded in to this thread but I thought we lived in a country of free speech

Cliques - love em

it is free speech, its just free flowing conversation with people adding new points of view "

Exactly

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Lol

Sorry I intruded in to this thread but I thought we lived in a country of free speech

Cliques - love em

Dies free speech only work when you are posting against a 'clique' seems to be the only time that phrase is rolled out

I can't work out if your issue us that you couldn't have kids so think that anyone leaving their child fir a holiday is irresponsible or if you had children but didn't have the support network around you to allow you to go away without them and so are jealous of those who do hence your negative comments.

Of course neither could be true and my initial trip trap comment is accurate.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

No way would I go on holiday without my son.

Firstly I can't afford one holiday let alone to so if I did go it would def be with him,

Secondly I don't like him being away from me for 24 hours let alone a week I'd go crazy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh not enough to do on a Sunday morning x cept be epic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Soooo many assumptions too

Very vivid imagination

Enjoy your Sunday

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Aaaaaaanyway.........back to the original question

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lol

Sorry I intruded in to this thread but I thought we lived in a country of free speech

Cliques - love em

What have you said in this thread that has been a contribution to the discussion.

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over a year ago

"im mentally trying to work out the perfect age to go to Disneyland..

wondering if at 4yrs old she'd remember any of it without the assistance of photo's in later life,, but at this age where she is currently obsessed with princesses she will be over the moon.

if i left it for a few years, she would have more understanding of 'do not run off' and be generally more compliant.. but would she have lost some of the passion for disney that she has now?

My hobbit was just under four and it was the perfect age she still remembers it and it was so magical for her....if you want any tips inbox me i did loads of money saving things and we had an amazing holiday there that didnt break the bank x

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over a year ago

I'd never go abroad without my son as the thought of not being able to get home if needed terrifies me. But I do go for long weekends with the girls a couple of times a year. I'm lucky though that I have fantastic parents that he loves staying with. If I didn't have them I don't think I could enjoy being away as I'd be worrying all the time (as his dad is an incompetent prick!)

As for being a parent 24/7 ... yes you are. But that doesn't mean you're not human as well. Caring for anyone 24/7 is a demanding job and you sometimes need a break. I don't see him visiting his grandparents for a few days as palming him off. He loves it and they love it. That's what families are about - supporting each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lol

Sorry I intruded in to this thread but I thought we lived in a country of free speech

Cliques - love em

What have you said in this thread that has been a contribution to the discussion.

Obviously havent read my contribution

You all got hangovers or something this morning ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have young children and have tried a couple of holidays at holiday centres and didn't enjoy them, neither did the kids.

So we choose more remote/quieter places albeit with interesting places nearby for day trips.

We manage to get away kids free once or twice a year, plus work means each of us is occasionally away alone. My favourite holidays are the ones with all of us. I'll miss those when the kids grow up.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Lol

Sorry I intruded in to this thread but I thought we lived in a country of free speech

Cliques - love em

What have you said in this thread that has been a contribution to the discussion.

Obviously havent read my contribution

You all got hangovers or something this morning ?

maybe clarify your point.. do you think that if you have children that you should always take them with you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ohhh ok

Like you I don't have a choice or a network x

I think a weekend without them is fine as long as who has them is close n caring but a two week holiday no x

Nothing was meant to offend x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ohhh ok

Like you I don't have a choice or a network x

I think a weekend without them is fine as long as who has them is close n caring but a two week holiday no x

Nothing was meant to offend x "

id go nuts not having little one around for more than a few days anyway

sadly i know of people who see their children as an inconvenience

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have holidays with the kids and weekends away without them. The holidays they seem to love and seem to work best are when we go away with friends camping. The kids are then all in a group and Can go and play as long as they don't leave The campsite and they tell us where they are going it's not a problem and we can relax a bit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sometimes I think I'm too close to my daughter but considering all the crap that's happened in her short life Im not gonna change it now x

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I never had a holiday without my daughter though have to say I love my alone time now she is grown.

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over a year ago

"Sometimes I think I'm too close to my daughter but considering all the crap that's happened in her short life Im not gonna change it now x

I think it's good to be close.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Sometimes I think I'm too close to my daughter but considering all the crap that's happened in her short life Im not gonna change it now x

I adore my daughter but sometimes wonder if there is such a thing as too close.

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

"Sometimes I think I'm too close to my daughter but considering all the crap that's happened in her short life Im not gonna change it now x

Its all about balance

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over a year ago

"Sometimes I think I'm too close to my daughter but considering all the crap that's happened in her short life Im not gonna change it now x

I adore my daughter but sometimes wonder if there is such a thing as too close. "

kids need to be able to gain their independence just don't forget that. Being close while allowing them to grow is a tricky balance. There is nothing wrong with being close and time away from the kids now and then isn't palming them off. parents need to recharge too. ... and the kids love having sleepovers with grandparents

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By *D40Couple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

"Think this might get different responses based on if you have them or not but i'll ask it anyway..

As a parent though id feel guilty (i think) for going away somewhere without my child. Understand for couples its important to refresh and keep your relationships alive so 'you' time is ideal.

So just asking a general question really.. also if you dont have kids do you tend to avoid family holidays and go on adult breaks only? xx "

When my children were small i was never blessed with a relative who would have them for a weekend even, just getting a night out was a nightmare so i never left them. Since seperating from their father 7 years ago i've had the odd weekend without them and it's been great. They are now teenagers and this year i will have my first adult holiday for a whole week, can't wait.

I personally think if parents get the chance for the time away they should take it - not just for refreshing but just to get a few days to remember you are not just mom or dad and you are a person in your own right. My children will be blessed with a grandma who will give them a break, but they won't be taking the mickey

Julie x

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

"Sometimes I think I'm too close to my daughter but considering all the crap that's happened in her short life Im not gonna change it now x

I adore my daughter but sometimes wonder if there is such a thing as too close.

Its the other way round for us, the grandparents love having the kids for sleepovers

Which we totally respect

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over a year ago

"Sometimes I think I'm too close to my daughter but considering all the crap that's happened in her short life Im not gonna change it now x

I adore my daughter but sometimes wonder if there is such a thing as too close.

Its the other way round for us, the grandparents love having the kids for sleepovers

Which we totally respect "

Oh yes the grandparents love it too

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over a year ago

We are very lucky , the grandparents have the kids every school half term for 5 days and 2 weeks in august so we do get to have a lot of mini breaks away on our own, We also get to have 2 weeks away somewhere hot in the summer on our own

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over a year ago

" ... and the kids love having sleepovers with grandparents

Its the other way round for us, the grandparents love having the kids for sleepovers

Which we totally respect "

Very important in my opinion, only one set of grandparents regularly had my kids for sleepovers / long weekends, especially after their mother died. Now they are grown up both of them have very strong bonds with that set of grandparents and respectful but minimal contact with the others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i used to really enjoy it when we took our son on holiday. i suppose it depends on how many holidays you have, and how many kids youve got.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I took my son on holiday every year of his life until he was 15, from the age of 7 his best friend came with us. So much easier taking two they did everything together on holiday, so I could just sit and watch and not have to be the main entertainer.

I would never have dreamed off going on holiday without him.

Now I don't have young kids I'd never in a million years of going near a family resort

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"im mentally trying to work out the perfect age to go to Disneyland..

wondering if at 4yrs old she'd remember any of it without the assistance of photo's in later life,, but at this age where she is currently obsessed with princesses she will be over the moon.

if i left it for a few years, she would have more understanding of 'do not run off' and be generally more compliant.. but would she have lost some of the passion for disney that she has now?

"
I took my son at nine, young enough to enjoy it and old enough to remember it, also at four I don't think she would get the full benefit of the whole resort

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

God knows what prompted posts in the middle of this thread, but can we please stop calling people trolls when they post something as it is getting tedious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sometimes I think I'm too close to my daughter but considering all the crap that's happened in her short life Im not gonna change it now x

I adore my daughter but sometimes wonder if there is such a thing as too close. "

I wouldnt worry make the most of it because when she gets older she might not want to go with you.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

To the OP.....we didn't go on holiday without the kids when they were young, we just wouldn't have felt right without them so had family holidays instead.

As much as we loved family holidays with our kids we only holiday now when kids are at school

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By *errynjuneCouple
over a year ago

Barnsley

We recently celebrated our 30th wedding anniversary, and went for a week away without any of our kids. That was the first holiday, in that time, we have been away without at least 2 of our kids with us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am going on a holiday in June, for the first time without kids in 25 years, and can't wait !!!!! lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have two types of getaway, exploring hol and family hol which I take her with me and she loves it

My adventure hol (Vegas this year with a skydive per the Grand Canyon) is for me but when she's old enough 14+ will be more than welcome to tag along as will appreciate it a lot more

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over a year ago

"We are very lucky , the grandparents have the kids every school half term for 5 days and 2 weeks in august so we do get to have a lot of mini breaks away on our own, We also get to have 2 weeks away somewhere hot in the summer on our own

very lucky

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over a year ago

very lucky "

They are their late mums parents and therefore the only remaining link to her so it benefits all of them. Plus as i am only their step mum i sometimes need the break and rest. I never had that option when i had my own 2 children so they always went away with us

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