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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

I was doing so well and since my dad went in October I just cant stop eating the wrong things how can I get back on my diet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm going to be watching this for help, I haven't had a cig since last Sunday but haven't stopped eating either

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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

I am craving ANY food

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hun I'm on slimming world, never hungry xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Primal, never hungry either.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've ate non stop today.

Near enough ate a full cheeseboard and a box of biscuits

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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get a hobby and drink water before every meal.. and snack on fruit, nuts, seeds and veg

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got a very bad case of fatbastarditis at the minute. Off to stock up on tasty and healthy food tomorrow

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Comfort eating and eating to replace an oral fixation can feel like hunger. Try having a glass of water.

I am failing to maintain my weight but I know why and I know what I have to do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They say that soups etc help as it slower to be absorbed. That professor on the tv (cant remember his name) says liquids as soups take longer to be used up so keep you full longer

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I got a very bad case of fatbastarditis at the minute. Off to stock up on tasty and healthy food tomorrow "

We've bought smaller plates.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"They say that soups etc help as it slower to be absorbed. That professor on the tv (cant remember his name) says liquids as soups take longer to be used up so keep you full longer "

Dr Michael Mosley - I saw that episode too.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Work out the triggers as to why you are comfort eating....keep a diary and note what made you comfort eat at that particular time...find other ways to feed your feelings

Alternatives to emotional eating

If you’re depressed or lonely, call someone who always makes you feel better, play with your dog or cat, or look at a favorite photo or cherished memento.

If you’re anxious, expend your nervous energy by dancing to your favorite song, squeezing a stress ball, or taking a brisk walk.

If you’re exhausted, treat yourself with a hot cup of tea, take a bath, light some scented candles, or wrap yourself in a warm blanket.

If you’re bored, read a good book, watch a comedy show, explore the outdoors, or turn to an activity you enjoy

Keep healthy foods in your cupboard so if you feel as you are going to comfort eat...grab an apple or something like that...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try foods that take a lot of chewing. Hopefully the urge to much will calm down

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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

its not true hunger I don't think ive ever suffered that just like a packet of crisps come to mind and I just have to

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By *atasha_DavidCouple
over a year ago

Slough


"I'm going to be watching this for help, I haven't had a cig since last Sunday but haven't stopped eating either "

Then in terms of your blood gases etc your a non smoker therefore there are no genuine physical side effects. Your just expecting there to be. Your eating to feel good because your scared you'll feel bad. You won't.

If you need something to do with your hands and mouth....... eat dried fruit Unsalted nuts or anything else healthy

If you can manage this long, a few more hours will be easy, especially if your asleep. And if you've last 7 days another is not a lot to do is it?

Just concentrate on how much your life is going to improve. More money to spend on yourself not your drug habit, you won't smell to other people, you'll be able to smell and taste the world around you more, you'll live longer and be healthier.

Well done now go and enjoy the rest of your life.

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By *atasha_DavidCouple
over a year ago

Slough


"Work out the triggers as to why you are comfort eating....keep a diary and note what made you comfort eat at that particular time...find other ways to feed your feelings

Alternatives to emotional eating

If you’re depressed or lonely, call someone who always makes you feel better, play with your dog or cat, or look at a favorite photo or cherished memento.

If you’re anxious, expend your nervous energy by dancing to your favorite song, squeezing a stress ball, or taking a brisk walk.

If you’re exhausted, treat yourself with a hot cup of tea, take a bath, light some scented candles, or wrap yourself in a warm blanket.

If you’re bored, read a good book, watch a comedy show, explore the outdoors, or turn to an activity you enjoy

Keep healthy foods in your cupboard so if you feel as you are going to comfort eat...grab an apple or something like that...

"

Given the likely trigger it could be atypical depression

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Primal, never hungry either."

Same here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They say that soups etc help as it slower to be absorbed. That professor on the tv (cant remember his name) says liquids as soups take longer to be used up so keep you full longer

Dr Michael Mosley - I saw that episode too.

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thanks

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"I've ate non stop today.

Near enough ate a full cheeseboard and a box of biscuits "

Because you were bored....we eat out of boredom...I've done it I don't tend to do it any more I try and keep my mind occupied...

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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

trigger has been since my dad died even though I was lucky I had him so long my husband don't help cos hes been bringing stuff to cheer me up like chocolates

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hun I'm on slimming world, never hungry xx"

Ooooh what's you're daily menu?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't eaten in two days, in order to shift my Christmas excesses. Fasting isn't something I'd recommend to just anyone and has to be built up to slowly, but personally over the years its been my favourite way to keep my weight in check.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I was the same when my mum died. Then I decided to take charge. Firstly, I recognised that dieting was worse than pointless as you end up putting more weight on after you stop it. What was needed was a complete change in lifestyle and attitude to food.

I stopped buying ALL processed food and determined to only eat freshly prepared meals. I limited my carb intake, and switched to skimmed milk instead of semi skimmed. I stopped frying - grilling, steaming or poaching. I ate red meat only once a week (this helps my arthritis too). I ate fish or skinless, boneless chicken instead. I made sure that I piled my plate high with veggies or salad with my protein in the evening - having eaten my few carbs earlier in the day for the energy. I ate only when hungry - not when bored. And the moment I felt full I stopped eating regardless of what was left on the plate. I always ate breakfast. I never went to bed hungry - sometimes I ate little and often though this was harder whilst working. I bought only enough food for the week and had plenty of fruit for snacks.

I took up Zumba twice a week.

I still eat and exercise just like this two/three years later. My weight is fairly stable, I feel fitter and happier and my arthritis does not hurt half so much.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

Maybe the secret is to be single and have no kids! Makes you (or me) a lazy arse, and just can't be bothered lol

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"trigger has been since my dad died even though I was lucky I had him so long my husband don't help cos hes been bringing stuff to cheer me up like chocolates"

Tell him to stop....replace chocolates with a cuddle (I am sorry if I assume to think if you and hubby are still intimate)....

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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire


"I haven't eaten in two days, in order to shift my Christmas excesses. Fasting isn't something I'd recommend to just anyone and has to be built up to slowly, but personally over the years its been my favourite way to keep my weight in check."

cant do that being diabetic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've ate non stop today.

Near enough ate a full cheeseboard and a box of biscuits

Because you were bored....we eat out of boredom...I've done it I don't tend to do it any more I try and keep my mind occupied... "

Is it not because I had a heavy night of alcohol last night

And yeah I'm also bored

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Drink water, among other things. It can put off hunger (often you can mistake thirst for hunger too, daft as that sounds.)

Also - there is nobody in this thread who needs to worry about their size!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When yu stop smoking, your taste buds come alive again and everything tastes different.hence you eat more . Im presently concentrating getting the weight off before even considering stopping smoking and the docs ok with that decision.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

You need to address your feelings over your dad dying. You need to talk to your husband and explain how you are feeling and that although his gestures are very kind they are not helping you.

You know what your trigger is and only you can figure out how to stop it.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"I've ate non stop today.

Near enough ate a full cheeseboard and a box of biscuits

Because you were bored....we eat out of boredom...I've done it I don't tend to do it any more I try and keep my mind occupied...

Is it not because I had a heavy night of alcohol last night

And yeah I'm also bored "

Ok we eat crap when hungover but it's about controlling it...eating a whole cheeseboard is not really control is it...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I swear by starting the day with porridge, find I don't have to snack mid~morning.

everything in moderation & up your water intake.

Good luck x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've ate non stop today.

Near enough ate a full cheeseboard and a box of biscuits

Because you were bored....we eat out of boredom...I've done it I don't tend to do it any more I try and keep my mind occupied...

Is it not because I had a heavy night of alcohol last night

And yeah I'm also bored

Ok we eat crap when hungover but it's about controlling it...eating a whole cheeseboard is not really control is it... "

But it was lovely

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"I got a very bad case of fatbastarditis at the minute. Off to stock up on tasty and healthy food tomorrow "

I have that too, had it far too bloody long!

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Drink water, among other things. It can put off hunger (often you can mistake thirst for hunger too, daft as that sounds.)

Also - there is nobody in this thread who needs to worry about their size!

"

In all fairness I do...diabetes is common in my family and both my father has it and my gran had it and they were both over weight...while I don't let myself get consumed I really do have to watch what I eat...

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"I've ate non stop today.

Near enough ate a full cheeseboard and a box of biscuits

Because you were bored....we eat out of boredom...I've done it I don't tend to do it any more I try and keep my mind occupied...

Is it not because I had a heavy night of alcohol last night

And yeah I'm also bored

Ok we eat crap when hungover but it's about controlling it...eating a whole cheeseboard is not really control is it...

But it was lovely "

And high in calories and huge amounts of sat fats

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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire


"You need to address your feelings over your dad dying. You need to talk to your husband and explain how you are feeling and that although his gestures are very kind they are not helping you.

You know what your trigger is and only you can figure out how to stop it. "

you are right the problem is that he don't mind me being bigger in fact he loves it ive had no time for myself either which has not helped will do the water just hope I don't spring a leak though lol

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"You need to address your feelings over your dad dying. You need to talk to your husband and explain how you are feeling and that although his gestures are very kind they are not helping you.

You know what your trigger is and only you can figure out how to stop it.

you are right the problem is that he don't mind me being bigger in fact he loves it ive had no time for myself either which has not helped will do the water just hope I don't spring a leak though lol"

He might like it...but do you?? It's YOUR body and by suggesting you need to stop eating suggest to me that you are not happy about it...x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you look at your daily allowance and try to break that down into say 5 or 6 meals a day. By eating regularly you will kick start to metabolism and also you will more often than not feel full and have no requirement to eat.

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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire


"Drink water, among other things. It can put off hunger (often you can mistake thirst for hunger too, daft as that sounds.)

Also - there is nobody in this thread who needs to worry about their size!

In all fairness I do...diabetes is common in my family and both my father has it and my gran had it and they were both over weight...while I don't let myself get consumed I really do have to watch what I eat... "

will admit my glucose level is awful at mo making me feel bad anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've ate non stop today.

Near enough ate a full cheeseboard and a box of biscuits

Because you were bored....we eat out of boredom...I've done it I don't tend to do it any more I try and keep my mind occupied...

Is it not because I had a heavy night of alcohol last night

And yeah I'm also bored

Ok we eat crap when hungover but it's about controlling it...eating a whole cheeseboard is not really control is it...

But it was lovely

And high in calories and huge amounts of sat fats "

Saturated fat is far better for you than loads of empty carbs.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Drink water, among other things. It can put off hunger (often you can mistake thirst for hunger too, daft as that sounds.)

Also - there is nobody in this thread who needs to worry about their size!

In all fairness I do...diabetes is common in my family and both my father has it and my gran had it and they were both over weight...while I don't let myself get consumed I really do have to watch what I eat...

will admit my glucose level is awful at mo making me feel bad anyway"

Of course it will....you have to listen to what your body is telling you....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've ate non stop today.

Near enough ate a full cheeseboard and a box of biscuits

Because you were bored....we eat out of boredom...I've done it I don't tend to do it any more I try and keep my mind occupied...

Is it not because I had a heavy night of alcohol last night

And yeah I'm also bored

Ok we eat crap when hungover but it's about controlling it...eating a whole cheeseboard is not really control is it...

But it was lovely

And high in calories and huge amounts of sat fats "

Diet starts next Julember

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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire


"You need to address your feelings over your dad dying. You need to talk to your husband and explain how you are feeling and that although his gestures are very kind they are not helping you.

You know what your trigger is and only you can figure out how to stop it.

you are right the problem is that he don't mind me being bigger in fact he loves it ive had no time for myself either which has not helped will do the water just hope I don't spring a leak though lol

He might like it...but do you?? It's YOUR body and by suggesting you need to stop eating suggest to me that you are not happy about it...x"

I hate it feel like shit most days and way I am at mo I may even EAT that!!! lol

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"I've ate non stop today.

Near enough ate a full cheeseboard and a box of biscuits

Because you were bored....we eat out of boredom...I've done it I don't tend to do it any more I try and keep my mind occupied...

Is it not because I had a heavy night of alcohol last night

And yeah I'm also bored

Ok we eat crap when hungover but it's about controlling it...eating a whole cheeseboard is not really control is it...

But it was lovely

And high in calories and huge amounts of sat fats

Saturated fat is far better for you than loads of empty carbs. "

I try and avoid both...I know where I go wrong I rarely have an evening meal but I pick that is my downfall...

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"I've ate non stop today.

Near enough ate a full cheeseboard and a box of biscuits

Because you were bored....we eat out of boredom...I've done it I don't tend to do it any more I try and keep my mind occupied...

Is it not because I had a heavy night of alcohol last night

And yeah I'm also bored

Ok we eat crap when hungover but it's about controlling it...eating a whole cheeseboard is not really control is it...

But it was lovely

And high in calories and huge amounts of sat fats

Diet starts next Julember "

Without sounding corny you are just fine the way you are....x

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"You need to address your feelings over your dad dying. You need to talk to your husband and explain how you are feeling and that although his gestures are very kind they are not helping you.

You know what your trigger is and only you can figure out how to stop it.

you are right the problem is that he don't mind me being bigger in fact he loves it ive had no time for myself either which has not helped will do the water just hope I don't spring a leak though lol

He might like it...but do you?? It's YOUR body and by suggesting you need to stop eating suggest to me that you are not happy about it...x

I hate it feel like shit most days and way I am at mo I may even EAT that!!! lol"

Have a look at my last post. It really worked for me and I felt so much happier taking control. The weight loss was quite steady too and I've been stable ever since. I can and will also eat the odd cake - it's not about denying yourself. It's about considering food as simply fuel. You mostly eat only what your body needs with an occasional treat. I don't even crave all the crap I used to eat - and I gave up smoking at the same time and STILL lost weight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You need to address your feelings over your dad dying. You need to talk to your husband and explain how you are feeling and that although his gestures are very kind they are not helping you.

You know what your trigger is and only you can figure out how to stop it.

you are right the problem is that he don't mind me being bigger in fact he loves it ive had no time for myself either which has not helped will do the water just hope I don't spring a leak though lol

He might like it...but do you?? It's YOUR body and by suggesting you need to stop eating suggest to me that you are not happy about it...x

I hate it feel like shit most days and way I am at mo I may even EAT that!!! lol

Have a look at my last post. It really worked for me and I felt so much happier taking control. The weight loss was quite steady too and I've been stable ever since. I can and will also eat the odd cake - it's not about denying yourself. It's about considering food as simply fuel. You mostly eat only what your body needs with an occasional treat. I don't even crave all the crap I used to eat - and I gave up smoking at the same time and STILL lost weight."

Having the odd treat helps prevent the cravings and well done you x

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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire


"You need to address your feelings over your dad dying. You need to talk to your husband and explain how you are feeling and that although his gestures are very kind they are not helping you.

You know what your trigger is and only you can figure out how to stop it.

you are right the problem is that he don't mind me being bigger in fact he loves it ive had no time for myself either which has not helped will do the water just hope I don't spring a leak though lol

He might like it...but do you?? It's YOUR body and by suggesting you need to stop eating suggest to me that you are not happy about it...x

I hate it feel like shit most days and way I am at mo I may even EAT that!!! lol

Have a look at my last post. It really worked for me and I felt so much happier taking control. The weight loss was quite steady too and I've been stable ever since. I can and will also eat the odd cake - it's not about denying yourself. It's about considering food as simply fuel. You mostly eat only what your body needs with an occasional treat. I don't even crave all the crap I used to eat - and I gave up smoking at the same time and STILL lost weight."

I need to lose 2 stone by end of feb for a hospital apt bit impossible first thing is facing up to the problem and I really appreciate the advice from everyone im gonna try and well done to everyone who lost weight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You need to address your feelings over your dad dying. You need to talk to your husband and explain how you are feeling and that although his gestures are very kind they are not helping you.

You know what your trigger is and only you can figure out how to stop it.

you are right the problem is that he don't mind me being bigger in fact he loves it ive had no time for myself either which has not helped will do the water just hope I don't spring a leak though lol

He might like it...but do you?? It's YOUR body and by suggesting you need to stop eating suggest to me that you are not happy about it...x

I hate it feel like shit most days and way I am at mo I may even EAT that!!! lol

Have a look at my last post. It really worked for me and I felt so much happier taking control. The weight loss was quite steady too and I've been stable ever since. I can and will also eat the odd cake - it's not about denying yourself. It's about considering food as simply fuel. You mostly eat only what your body needs with an occasional treat. I don't even crave all the crap I used to eat - and I gave up smoking at the same time and STILL lost weight.

I need to lose 2 stone by end of feb for a hospital apt bit impossible first thing is facing up to the problem and I really appreciate the advice from everyone im gonna try and well done to everyone who lost weight "

A great way to lose weight quickly it HIIT training, You can do this on a stationary bike and start low and work your way up.

Basically you can cycle quickly for a min then slow for 30 sec's and do that for 10 mins to start with. Or Cycle quick for a min slow for a min, quick for 50 sec's slow for 50 sec's down to 10 sec's then rest for a min then work for 10 up to a min. It really does work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any diet works - temporarily. The problem is between your ears and until you're fixed yourself, you'll yoyo forever.

Look into NLP - g00gle it. It is not airy fairy shit, it's a way of rewiring your whole relationship with your size and relationship with food.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"You need to address your feelings over your dad dying. You need to talk to your husband and explain how you are feeling and that although his gestures are very kind they are not helping you.

You know what your trigger is and only you can figure out how to stop it.

you are right the problem is that he don't mind me being bigger in fact he loves it ive had no time for myself either which has not helped will do the water just hope I don't spring a leak though lol

He might like it...but do you?? It's YOUR body and by suggesting you need to stop eating suggest to me that you are not happy about it...x

I hate it feel like shit most days and way I am at mo I may even EAT that!!! lol

Have a look at my last post. It really worked for me and I felt so much happier taking control. The weight loss was quite steady too and I've been stable ever since. I can and will also eat the odd cake - it's not about denying yourself. It's about considering food as simply fuel. You mostly eat only what your body needs with an occasional treat. I don't even crave all the crap I used to eat - and I gave up smoking at the same time and STILL lost weight.

I need to lose 2 stone by end of feb for a hospital apt bit impossible first thing is facing up to the problem and I really appreciate the advice from everyone im gonna try and well done to everyone who lost weight

A great way to lose weight quickly it HIIT training, You can do this on a stationary bike and start low and work your way up.

Basically you can cycle quickly for a min then slow for 30 sec's and do that for 10 mins to start with. Or Cycle quick for a min slow for a min, quick for 50 sec's slow for 50 sec's down to 10 sec's then rest for a min then work for 10 up to a min. It really does work. "

Firstly, that depends on your fitness level - and secondly, I have arthritis in my knees so that would not necessarily be the best kind of exercise.

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield


"I swear by starting the day with porridge, find I don't have to snack mid~morning.

everything in moderation & up your water intake.

Good luck x"

Porridge is really good as oats are.a slow release food and keep you.fuller for longer. Cooking them helps your body to process them more efficiently and get more from them. They're full of gut friendly soluble fibre and high in B vitamins which are especially good for women.

If you sweeten it with dried fruit instead of sugar or syrup porridge is incredibly good for you as well as filling.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"You need to address your feelings over your dad dying. You need to talk to your husband and explain how you are feeling and that although his gestures are very kind they are not helping you.

You know what your trigger is and only you can figure out how to stop it.

you are right the problem is that he don't mind me being bigger in fact he loves it ive had no time for myself either which has not helped will do the water just hope I don't spring a leak though lol

He might like it...but do you?? It's YOUR body and by suggesting you need to stop eating suggest to me that you are not happy about it...x

I hate it feel like shit most days and way I am at mo I may even EAT that!!! lol

Have a look at my last post. It really worked for me and I felt so much happier taking control. The weight loss was quite steady too and I've been stable ever since. I can and will also eat the odd cake - it's not about denying yourself. It's about considering food as simply fuel. You mostly eat only what your body needs with an occasional treat. I don't even crave all the crap I used to eat - and I gave up smoking at the same time and STILL lost weight.

I need to lose 2 stone by end of feb for a hospital apt bit impossible first thing is facing up to the problem and I really appreciate the advice from everyone im gonna try and well done to everyone who lost weight "

Two stone in about 7 weeks - it's doable - just concentrate on getting fit and healthy and be strict. Don't buy any tempting foods, and don't allow them to be bought for you. If there's no snacks in then you can't snack!! Works for me. Sometimes even now I go to the fridge and realise there is nothing handy to grab so come away empty-handed.

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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire


"I swear by starting the day with porridge, find I don't have to snack mid~morning.

everything in moderation & up your water intake.

Good luck x

Porridge is really good as oats are.a slow release food and keep you.fuller for longer. Cooking them helps your body to process them more efficiently and get more from them. They're full of gut friendly soluble fibre and high in B vitamins which are especially good for women.

If you sweeten it with dried fruit instead of sugar or syrup porridge is incredibly good for you as well as filling. "

I LIKE PORRIDGE WILL TRY TOMW FOR BREKKIE

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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

I AM RUBY AND I AM A FOODAHOLIC lol

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By *uby0000 OP   Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

thanks everyone im going to try really hard and will be on the diet thread soon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm going to be watching this for help, I haven't had a cig since last Sunday but haven't stopped eating either "

If you give up smoking you have to eat like it's going out of fashion, it's the law.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was the same after I list my mum last march, and it's only since the end of no vice turned it around. Been hooting the gym every day and replacing the chocolate high with a far longer lasting exercise high has helped wonders. I'm down two belt holes and have my pecs and arms back much to the missus joy !

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