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"I'm not sparing a thought for a religion which has persecuted people throughout its history and is still doing so today, bring it on santa." She didn't ask you to... | |||
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"Please spare a thought for the Christian's being persecuted across the world this Christmas time. Before the Coca Cola lorry and the trees and the baubles and the food and drink there were people with a faith. There are still people who keep that faith and they are being persecuted for their beliefs. This and Easter are the big Christian festivals so please just spare a thought for those celebrating the birth of their Christ even if it may cost them their lives."   | |||
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"pride, avarice, envy, wrath, LUST, gluttony, and sloth/acedia Thou shalt have no other gods No graven images or likenesses Not take the LORD's name in vain Remember the sabbath day Honour thy father and thy mother Thou shalt not kill Thou shalt not commit adultery Thou shalt not steal Thou shalt not bear false witness Thou shalt not covet Just saying... "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s. | |||
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"pride, avarice, envy, wrath, LUST, gluttony, and sloth/acedia Thou shalt have no other gods No graven images or likenesses Not take the LORD's name in vain Remember the sabbath day Honour thy father and thy mother Thou shalt not kill Thou shalt not commit adultery Thou shalt not steal Thou shalt not bear false witness Thou shalt not covet Just saying...
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s."Glad I aint a Christian, I love my neighbours ass  | |||
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"pride, avarice, envy, wrath, LUST, gluttony, and sloth/acedia Thou shalt have no other gods No graven images or likenesses Not take the LORD's name in vain Remember the sabbath day Honour thy father and thy mother Thou shalt not kill Thou shalt not commit adultery Thou shalt not steal Thou shalt not bear false witness Thou shalt not covet Just saying...
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s."How refreshing to see The Authorised version being quoted! Good old King Jim! | |||
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"Please spare a thought for the Christian's being persecuted across the world this Christmas time. Before the Coca Cola lorry and the trees and the baubles and the food and drink there were people with a faith. There are still people who keep that faith and they are being persecuted for their beliefs. This and Easter are the big Christian festivals so please just spare a thought for those celebrating the birth of their Christ even if it may cost them their lives." You are referring to the Pagan festival that the christians bastardised to fit in with their propaganda? Christianity has persecuted and murdered more people than any other religion. So we will not be thinking about the poor hard done by Christian, they are a big enough organisation(s) to look after themselves. | |||
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"All religious festivals are a time for reflection whatever your faith. All Religions preach peace to mankind. It is not religion that persecutes othersit is not religion that starts wars. It is the greed and selfishness of man that starts wars in gods name. Merry Christmas one and all " Ain't that the truth!! | |||
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"All religious festivals are a time for reflection whatever your faith. All Religions preach peace to mankind. It is not religion that persecutes othersit is not religion that starts wars. It is the greed and selfishness of man that starts wars in gods name. Merry Christmas one and all " Genuinely quite pleased to see so many people with an educated and logical _iew on religion! Persecution of another human being for whatever reason is wrong, all the way from bullying to mass genocide and war 
Preach love and acceptance, not hate and destruction!
If any religious festival causes people to stop and think then all the better.
I'm bound to rub some people up the wrong way here, but the commandments are a very sensible list of rules to attempt to control a population.
Clearly everyone on this website is comfortable with sharing the love!
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"All religious festivals are a time for reflection whatever your faith. All Religions preach peace to mankind. It is not religion that persecutes othersit is not religion that starts wars. It is the greed and selfishness of man that starts wars in gods name. Merry Christmas one and all " So easy to simplify. It is the head if these religions that preached intolerance. It is in their story books where the foundation of this intolerance is gound. Merry winter festival one and all. | |||
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"....... I'm bound to rub some people up the wrong way here, but the commandments are a very sensible list of rules to attempt to control a population....... " Failing which you can always put tanks on every street corner. | |||
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"....... I'm bound to rub some people up the wrong way here, but the commandments are a very sensible list of rules to attempt to control a population....... Failing which you can always put tanks on every street corner." What a choice. Tanks or religious nutcases  | |||
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"Please spare a thought for the Christian's being persecuted across the world this Christmas time. Before the Coca Cola lorry and the trees and the baubles and the food and drink there were people with a faith. There are still people who keep that faith and they are being persecuted for their beliefs. This and Easter are the big Christian festivals so please just spare a thought for those celebrating the birth of their Christ even if it may cost them their lives." god bless you one and all. peace be with you and have a very merry Christmas | |||
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"Please spare a thought for the Christian's being persecuted across the world this Christmas time. Before the Coca Cola lorry and the trees and the baubles and the food and drink there were people with a faith. There are still people who keep that faith and they are being persecuted for their beliefs. This and Easter are the big Christian festivals so please just spare a thought for those celebrating the birth of their Christ even if it may cost them their lives." Thoughts go out to believers of all religions facing persecution. Not forgetting the newest religion, Neo-atheism. Best wishes of the season. | |||
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"Its Amazing that a simple request to spare a thought for People being persecuted and harmed during this time can be berated, it doesnt bode well for our future Generations does it "agreed
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"Its Amazing that a simple request to spare a thought for People being persecuted and harmed during this time can be berated, it doesnt bode well for our future Generations does it
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"Pagans haven't exactly been a friendly bunch in the past either, eh! "That would be an ecumenical matter. | |||
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"Pagans haven't exactly been a friendly bunch in the past either, eh!
That would be an ecumenical matter."thank you father Ted | |||
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"Pagans haven't exactly been a friendly bunch in the past either, eh!
That would be an ecumenical matter."Shall we take it to a higher authority? "Father Jack come over here and help with this one!" | |||
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"This is why I love Fab forums….. What starts off as a well intend OP aimed at inviting a simple act of human kindness sparks an interesting debate where people of divided opinions can embrace the opportunity to exchange thoughts…. I for one, will spare my thoughts toward all members of the human race who are willing to see beyond the many differences contained in the belief systems adopted by humanity. Regardless of faith I see nothing wrong with taking time to reflect on why the world would be a better place if love and toleranc were allowed to prosper over hate and mistrust. Merry Christmas planet earth.... "Hallelujah Sister | |||
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"I know the failings of how people have used religion, not just Christianity. I know that the dates of the holidays were deliberate appropriations of pagan festivals. I ask people to think, that is all. I care about all people being persecuted. What their forefathers have done is not what I am talking about. I am talking about real people alive now and their families. I am talking about being shot at and imprisoned for their beliefs. Change the word Christian to gay or black or female and my sentiment is essentially the same. Enjoy your winter feasting. " | |||
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"My thoughts at this time of year are with anybody less fortunate than myself; be it through homelessness, povery, bereavement, loneliness or persecution. That's coming from me as a human being, not as a Christian. Merry Christmas x" Well said! | |||
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"All religious festivals are a time for reflection whatever your faith. All Religions preach peace to mankind. It is not religion that persecutes othersit is not religion that starts wars. It is the greed and selfishness of man that starts wars in gods name. Merry Christmas one and all So easy to simplify. It is the head if these religions that preached intolerance. It is in their story books where the foundation of this intolerance is gound. Merry winter festival one and all." Over the hundreds of years men of power have re written history and many of its so called great eras have all had there hand its far to easy to knock religion a with the rise of atheism and selfishness coupled with the way our youth learn and perceive information its going to get worse . | |||
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"People are going to persecute people, it's a human trait that has been with us since we evolved from the premadoriol slime, the trick is to be the ones one the winning side. As for the Christian bit? Well of all the gods there have been from all the religions , if there is a god it is long odds that he or she belongs to one of the Christian religious cults. " I don't understand the sentiment that "the trick is to be the ones on the winning side". That may be because I am female and black and we haven't managed to learn that particular trick.  | |||
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"People are going to persecute people, it's a human trait that has been with us since we evolved from the premadoriol slime, the trick is to be the ones one the winning side. As for the Christian bit? Well of all the gods there have been from all the religions , if there is a god it is long odds that he or she belongs to one of the Christian religious cults. I don't understand the sentiment that "the trick is to be the ones on the winning side". That may be because I am female and black and we haven't managed to learn that particular trick. "You are Human First and Foremost  | |||
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"People are going to persecute people, it's a human trait that has been with us since we evolved from the premadoriol slime, the trick is to be the ones one the winning side. As for the Christian bit? Well of all the gods there have been from all the religions , if there is a god it is long odds that he or she belongs to one of the Christian religious cults. I don't understand the sentiment that "the trick is to be the ones on the winning side". That may be because I am female and black and we haven't managed to learn that particular trick.
You are Human First and Foremost "I am, as is everyone else. I ask for us to use humanity in dealing with others. | |||
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"People are going to persecute people, it's a human trait that has been with us since we evolved from the premadoriol slime, the trick is to be the ones one the winning side. As for the Christian bit? Well of all the gods there have been from all the religions , if there is a god it is long odds that he or she belongs to one of the Christian religious cults. I don't understand the sentiment that "the trick is to be the ones on the winning side". That may be because I am female and black and we haven't managed to learn that particular trick.
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I am, as is everyone else. I ask for us to use humanity in dealing with others."and it is a Noble thought but as you have seen there are some for whom thinking of others as simply Human beings is Impossible | |||
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"People are going to persecute people, it's a human trait that has been with us since we evolved from the premadoriol slime, the trick is to be the ones one the winning side. As for the Christian bit? Well of all the gods there have been from all the religions , if there is a god it is long odds that he or she belongs to one of the Christian religious cults. " Is that why we're in such a state then; considering how many times we've been on the losing side over the past couple of millennium?
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"It is often those that advocate most vociferously the right of free speech that are want to deny it in others. The three main world religions all worship the one god. Both orthodox Christianity and Islam (although the muslims will want to deny it) are Spinoffs of Judaism. The laws governing halal and kosher food are almost identical and excellent rules for cooking in hot climates. To blame Christianity for killing and suffering alone is a negative and biased _iew that deliberately omits human sacrifices from pagan religions, the Egyptians, Aztecs, Mayans and many other world religions that pre-date Christianity. The Romans and Greeks both practised ritual sacrifice before the Greeks converted to orthodox Christianity and the Romans converted to Catholicism. Christians are currently being persecuted for their beliefs in the Middle East, Africa and Asia. For a Christian to ask you to think of these people at this holy time is not a lot to ask. Those of you who mock show yourselves up for who you really are. " | |||
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"It is often those that advocate most vociferously the right of free speech that are want to deny it in others. The three main world religions all worship the one god. Both orthodox Christianity and Islam (although the muslims will want to deny it) are Spinoffs of Judaism. The laws governing halal and kosher food are almost identical and excellent rules for cooking in hot climates. To blame Christianity for killing and suffering alone is a negative and biased _iew that deliberately omits human sacrifices from pagan religions, the Egyptians, Aztecs, Mayans and many other world religions that pre-date Christianity. The Romans and Greeks both practised ritual sacrifice before the Greeks converted to orthodox Christianity and the Romans converted to Catholicism. Christians are currently being persecuted for their beliefs in the Middle East, Africa and Asia. For a Christian to ask you to think of these people at this holy time is not a lot to ask. Those of you who mock show yourselves up for who you really are. " | |||
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"It's probably been said but Christians nicked this festival from pagans. They were trying to annihilate one of our original religions. Christ was not born in December. He was born in the summer - June I think but could be wrong. " And capitalism has nicked it from the Christians. | |||
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"The Op asked me to show compassion and I choose to do that. Religion does not come into it for me. My own personal moral code means that I will not ration my compassion or base it on some kind of tick box to determine whether someone being persecuted is worthy. Lickerty, thank you for this thread, it has reminded me to give a moments quiet thought to those who are suffering as a result of persecution. I give my compassion to them unconditionally. " this.. well said.. | |||
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"Please spare a thought for the Christian's being persecuted across the world this Christmas time. Before the Coca Cola lorry and the trees and the baubles and the food and drink there were people with a faith. There are still people who keep that faith and they are being persecuted for their beliefs. This and Easter are the big Christian festivals so please just spare a thought for those celebrating the birth of their Christ even if it may cost them their lives." .....Merry Christmas Lickety Xx | |||
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"As yet I’ve found myself unable to adopt a religious faith whose teachings satisfy my desire to make sense of the contradictory behaviours of humankind … But yesterday I went to a carol service at a local church where I saw joy and hope spread across the faces of children who hung on every word spoken from the pulpit extolling the virtues of accepting not everyone in the world shares the same religious belief but how that is no reason for mistrust and hate ..... Those children seemed to understand the message.... "Many of them will also believe in Santa and the tooth fairy. | |||
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"Why should I spare a thought for a group of people who I have no connection with ? I'm atheist so do you believe they would spare a thought for me ? No probably try and convert me instead that's their mindset but I certainly wish them no harm." So do you only meet swingers that are Atheists as the rest of us would have no connection with you | |||
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" Many of them will also believe in Santa and the tooth fairy." Nothing wrong with that.... Is it such a bad thing that children should be allowed to enjoy the magic and wonder of make believe, before the turgid agenda of adult seeking to contaminate their young minds with the brutal truth of reality rob them of that innocent pleasure.... …..Eh!,,,, | |||
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" Many of them will also believe in Santa and the tooth fairy. Nothing wrong with that.... Is it such a bad thing that children should be allowed to enjoy the magic and wonder of make believe, before the turgid agenda of adult seeking to contaminate their young minds with the brutal truth of reality rob them of that innocent pleasure.... …..Eh!,,,, "I wonder how many would believe without the 'incentive' of presents or cash under the pillow. If you start with bribery, moving to threats of eternal damnation is but a small step. | |||
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" Many of them will also believe in Santa and the tooth fairy. Nothing wrong with that.... Is it such a bad thing that children should be allowed to enjoy the magic and wonder of make believe, before the turgid agenda of adult seeking to contaminate their young minds with the brutal truth of reality rob them of that innocent pleasure.... …..Eh!,,,,
I wonder how many would believe without the 'incentive' of presents or cash under the pillow.
If you start with bribery, moving to threats of eternal damnation is but a small step."Nah mate ,,,,,,, I wouldn’t let all that bother you….. after-all there’s worse things than allowing kids to enjoy the innocence of childhood…. | |||
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"What does spare a thought mean ? What should I think ? How long should I think it ? What should I be doing while I think it? Is it important they know that i'm thinking my thought ? How does it help them ? " We should all spare a thought for everyone in every walk of life. It makes us reflect, learn, develop and maybe just maybe they may just spare a thought for you? I believe it may help. Feeling like we matter can raise ones spirits. | |||
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"What does spare a thought mean ? What should I think ? How long should I think it ? What should I be doing while I think it? Is it important they know that i'm thinking my thought ? How does it help them ? We should all spare a thought for everyone in every walk of life. It makes us reflect, learn, develop and maybe just maybe they may just spare a thought for you? I believe it may help. Feeling like we matter can raise ones spirits." I find pure sentiment pretty bloody useless. | |||
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"What does spare a thought mean ? What should I think ? How long should I think it ? What should I be doing while I think it? Is it important they know that i'm thinking my thought ? How does it help them ? We should all spare a thought for everyone in every walk of life. It makes us reflect, learn, develop and maybe just maybe they may just spare a thought for you? I believe it may help. Feeling like we matter can raise ones spirits. I find pure sentiment pretty bloody useless. " Maybe, but its a start for some? Shows they're able to display social intelligence? | |||
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"Please spare a thought for the Christian's being persecuted across the world this Christmas time. Before the Coca Cola lorry and the trees and the baubles and the food and drink there were people with a faith. There are still people who keep that faith and they are being persecuted for their beliefs. This and Easter are the big Christian festivals so please just spare a thought for those celebrating the birth of their Christ even if it may cost them their lives." I think you are on a loser with this one, its a swinging site that relys on adultery, cheating and self gratification, all opposites of what Christianity is about  | |||
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"What does spare a thought mean ? What should I think ? How long should I think it ? What should I be doing while I think it? Is it important they know that i'm thinking my thought ? How does it help them ? " Whatever you like, as long as for a couple of minutes in your day you remind yourself that such people exist. You can do whatever you like whilst thinking it... Although sexual thoughts may be inappropriate.... It could be important for them to know that they aren't alone........ If eight billion of us spared a thought for others, it may help us all.... Merry festive season. | |||
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"What does spare a thought mean ? What should I think ? How long should I think it ? What should I be doing while I think it? Is it important they know that i'm thinking my thought ? How does it help them ? Whatever you like, as long as for a couple of minutes in your day you remind yourself that such people exist. You can do whatever you like whilst thinking it... Although sexual thoughts may be inappropriate.... It could be important for them to know that they aren't alone........ If eight billion of us spared a thought for others, it may help us all.... Merry festive season. " I never had ..... Merry Festive Season to you too! ..never had you down for not hearing your own gibberish .... Reminding myself each day that such people exist is good for me.... not for them. How would they KNOW they were not alone if all that people do is spare a 'thought' ? If 8 billion of us spared a thought for others it makes no fucking difference what so ever to the others. Yodelling Yuletides xx | |||
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"There are far too many people that simply make the right noises. " And a lot of others who believe and practice, despite the beliefs of others.... Which was, ironically, the OP of this thread... I don't ask others to be like me, but when a thread like this pops up, I permit myself a supportive response... | |||
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"The OP was a nice post, but two thoughts 1. No-one practising Christianity should be a swinger. You're sinning. 2. If god is omnipresent as the bible says, why do we need organised religion competing for believers? " 1... Not so... IMHO... 2... God isn't the problem.... It's "some" of the people who follow their beliefs based around their prophets, which in one case is the Christ of Christmas...
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"It is often those that advocate most vociferously the right of free speech that are want to deny it in others. The three main world religions all worship the one god. Both orthodox Christianity and Islam (although the muslims will want to deny it) are Spinoffs of Judaism. The laws governing halal and kosher food are almost identical and excellent rules for cooking in hot climates. To blame Christianity for killing and suffering alone is a negative and biased _iew that deliberately omits human sacrifices from pagan religions, the Egyptians, Aztecs, Mayans and many other world religions that pre-date Christianity. The Romans and Greeks both practised ritual sacrifice before the Greeks converted to orthodox Christianity and the Romans converted to Catholicism. Christians are currently being persecuted for their beliefs in the Middle East, Africa and Asia. For a Christian to ask you to think of these people at this holy time is not a lot to ask. Those of you who mock show yourselves up for who you really are. " excellent
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"I'll spare a thought for anyone who's being persecuted but I just need to point out that the Christian events mentioned were originally pagan festivals which were taken over the Christian church. Love and peace to all "here here blessed be | |||
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"I know the failings of how people have used religion, not just Christianity. I know that the dates of the holidays were deliberate appropriations of pagan festivals. I ask people to think, that is all. I care about all people being persecuted. What their forefathers have done is not what I am talking about. I am talking about real people alive now and their families. I am talking about being shot at and imprisoned for their beliefs. Change the word Christian to gay or black or female and my sentiment is essentially the same. Enjoy your winter feasting. " those same christians you think we owe something to persecute gay people for something they were born ad. so as far as in concerned christians are the shit under my boots. | |||
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"What if I don't believe in prayer ?" prayers are used by people to try and justify the fact they cant be arsed to do anything about the situation they want to change. never has mans time been more wasted than getting on knees and talking to an imaginary friend. | |||
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"What if I don't believe in prayer ? prayers are used by people to try and justify the fact they cant be arsed to do anything about the situation they want to change. never has mans time been more wasted than getting on knees and talking to an imaginary friend." Absolutely. The only time praying ever helped was when indiana jones did it in the last crusade to avoid getting his head cut off | |||
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"Christians (particularly in africa) persecute the following: Gays Lesbians Tv/ts Adulterers Premarital sex Use of birth control People who try to stop AIDS spreading through use of condoms Women vicars/priests In fact, most women I can't see how anyone on fab can also claim to be a christian unless they are the sort to cherry-pick which bits they like and which they will pretend to not notice" You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between Christianity and any of its branches and sub-sects. Catholics believe different things to Anglicans. Anglicans believe different things to Seventh Day Adventists. Until you understand that, I'd steer clear of any attempts to inform/judge others. | |||
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"Christians (particularly in africa) persecute the following: Gays Lesbians Tv/ts Adulterers Premarital sex Use of birth control People who try to stop AIDS spreading through use of condoms Women vicars/priests In fact, most women I can't see how anyone on fab can also claim to be a christian unless they are the sort to cherry-pick which bits they like and which they will pretend to not notice You have a fundamental misunderstanding of Christianity ." So do most christians | |||
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"Wow, Christians are the only ones doing that in Africa? You could also say the same about Muslims murdering missionaries and the genital mutilation. If you are going to cherry pick attrocities, at least try to be a little unbiased. Don't forget the witch doctors claiming to be able to cure aids if the sufferer rapes a white virgin. " Not really, i only mentioned christmas-ianity as that's what the previous pistings referred to. I am well aware of the evil of all religions. I am against all orgsnised religion. I think it's fine to believe in a creator and all that goes with it, but only on an internal personal level. It's when it gets twisted into ceremony, robes, empty rituals and dogma that it becomes dangerous. If you can't decide what you want to believe for yourself, without being told by someone else, you are weak minded and are a puppet. Don't lecture anyone about religion until you can show you have thought about it and made a proper choice rather than just what you were told as a kid. Until you explain the 5 pillars, the eightfold path, the hindu trinity, the pagan beliefs, etc and a whole host of others then you have not done this and have most likely picked the furst one you were exposed to. | |||
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"No, you chose to attack Christianity. Ignoring other religions atrocities to try to prove you biased standpoint " Read the thread title and OP again. We were asked to spare a thought for christians. No other religions mentioned. That's why i only referred to christians in my initial reply. The fact that the OP only asked us to spare a thought for christians and not other religions tells you all you need to know about their general attitudes..... | |||
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"No, you chose to attack Christianity. Ignoring other religions atrocities to try to prove you biased standpoint Read the thread title and OP again. We were asked to spare a thought for christians. No other religions mentioned. That's why i only referred to christians in my initial reply. The fact that the OP only asked us to spare a thought for christians and not other religions tells you all you need to know about their general attitudes....." I have ignored this thread for a couple of days and was surprised to see it on the front page now. If my OP tells you all you need to know about my general attitudes it would be useful if you could tell me; I am spending a fortune on therapy. | |||
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"To the op ..... Why not spair a thought for those less fortunate for reasons may it be there on the streets and may not see the Dawn of a new day.... To those unfairly in prisons no matter creed color or orientation....... And leave religion well out of it.... Simples " I do spare thoughts and even actions for all those mentioned. The fact is that in some countries Christians are persecuted for being Christian but because it is Christianity it is ignored by many. As I said earlier I could have used gay, black, female, homeless whatever (and I have asked for them to be thought of on other threads over the time I have been on the forum). The fact is that knowing what you are thinking about is the important bit. I chose this time of year to make the post for obvious reasons. You don't raise awareness of a particular thing but lumping everyone together. | |||
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"To the op ..... Why not spair a thought for those less fortunate for reasons may it be there on the streets and may not see the Dawn of a new day.... To those unfairly in prisons no matter creed color or orientation....... And leave religion well out of it.... Simples I do spare thoughts and even actions for all those mentioned. The fact is that in some countries Christians are persecuted for being Christian but because it is Christianity it is ignored by many. As I said earlier I could have used gay, black, female, homeless whatever (and I have asked for them to be thought of on other threads over the time I have been on the forum). The fact is that knowing what you are thinking about is the important bit. I chose this time of year to make the post for obvious reasons. You don't raise awareness of a particular thing but lumping everyone together. " | |||
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"To the op ..... Why not spair a thought for those less fortunate for reasons may it be there on the streets and may not see the Dawn of a new day.... To those unfairly in prisons no matter creed color or orientation....... And leave religion well out of it.... Simples I do spare thoughts and even actions for all those mentioned. The fact is that in some countries Christians are persecuted for being Christian but because it is Christianity it is ignored by many. As I said earlier I could have used gay, black, female, homeless whatever (and I have asked for them to be thought of on other threads over the time I have been on the forum). The fact is that knowing what you are thinking about is the important bit. I chose this time of year to make the post for obvious reasons. You don't raise awareness of a particular thing but lumping everyone together. " just seam's strange to bring in a religious sect to such a site .... maybe would be better accepted on a forum with a little fish emblem some where on it not a site full of dirty buggers | |||
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" As I said earlier I could have used gay, black, female, homeless whatever (and I have asked for them to be thought of on other threads over the time I have been on the forum). The fact is that knowing what you are thinking about is the important bit. I chose this time of year to make the post for obvious reasons. You don't raise awareness of a particular thing but lumping everyone together. just seam's strange to bring in a religious sect to such a site .... maybe would be better accepted on a forum with a little fish emblem some where on it not a site full of dirty buggers "It's the lounge. People bring religion here more often than you think. More often than not it's the shoot the Muslim sort of thread. We all have a belief system whether it is recognised as a religion or not. I am waiting for the atheists to ask to be recognised now that Scientology has got there. We all have rituals, whether we accept that we do or don't. It's human nature. Anyone who wants to ignore it can. I'm not a Fishtian. | |||
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"I'd rather folk sat at their keyboard than abused children placed in their care." Being a christian dosen't make someone a paedophile. | |||
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"Is sparing a thought useless? if one person keeps another in their thoughts, maybe it has no impact, but if two, three, more do so, then eventually it can become something more. Apathy is the true enemy. It allows others to distort truth, to act against each other and to pervert justice, whilst pretending to be it. If you feel srongly about something, you will do more than think eventually. And if more do the same, then change can come. I'm with you lickety - I will spare a thought and more..." Thanks for understanding the purpose. | |||
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"I'd rather folk sat at their keyboard than abused children placed in their care. Being a christian dosen't make someone a paedophile. " It isn't automatic but they seem to have all but cornered the market, with connivance from head office. | |||
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"christmas has nothing to do with christianity, it was a pagan festival. if you have an imaginary friend then keep it to yourself what ever your religion, more harm than good has come from religion" Lol Christmas has everything to do with Christianity Don't you think the Christ part is a bit of a give Way ! There was a pagan festival pre dating Christmas at the same time we. Now celebrate Christmas No one knows exactly when Christ was born birthdays were not that important then It was only later the church decided to celebrate christs birth Christs birth may of been put up against the pagan festival to rival it or maybe christians had no holiday in mid winter | |||
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"Can a swinger be a christian? By definition we should all be burning in hell. Unless you choose to ignore what certain parts of the bible say...." Forgive the sinner is what I take from the Bible. | |||
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"Because this thread is not about those people, anyone is free to start a thread on whatever subject they like as the OP has done, the OP wanted to raise attention of THIS cause and has done so. But the bitter and twisted brigade who delight at sitting at their keyboards sniping at whatever next takes their fancy have decided to rally round. Freedom of speech is a privilege that is not open to everybody in the world and is often abused by those who would never be brave enough to speak out in other countries or if they had to stand up from the anonymity of the keyboard. They very thing the OP asks for, the bigots try to mock. Take a long look at yourselves. Peace!" | |||
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"Interesting tale. "A SCOTTISH preacher, jailed for 20 years for raping an eleven year-old girl in America, has launched an appeal against his conviction. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, 41, who is originally from Elgin in Moray, was found guilty in May of this year of first-degree child rape and two counts of first-degree molestation at a court in Washington State. He was sentenced to 20 years imprisonment with a minimum sentence of 18 years before he can be considered for parole. But it has now been revealed that XXXXXXXX is to appeal against his conviction, claiming there were errors in his trial and that his religious beliefs should not have been disclosed to the jury."" People of all religions do bad things. I don't get your now very laboured point on this matter. I get that you don't agree with me but I can find lots of examples of Christians doing bad things, as well as other people. I doesn't stop me wanting people to stop and think about the persecution of a group for their beliefs. | |||
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"Because this thread is not about those people, anyone is free to start a thread on whatever subject they like as the OP has done, the OP wanted to raise attention of THIS cause and has done so. But the bitter and twisted brigade who delight at sitting at their keyboards sniping at whatever next takes their fancy have decided to rally round. Freedom of speech is a privilege that is not open to everybody in the world and is often abused by those who would never be brave enough to speak out in other countries or if they had to stand up from the anonymity of the keyboard. They very thing the OP asks for, the bigots try to mock. Take a long look at yourselves. Peace! "How true | |||
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"Throw em to the lions ............. "Now you are obviously not the messiah.just a very naughty boy | |||
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"I believe in the fact people should be allowed to believe whatever they want. Whether it's religion or someone else's sexuality. If someone say it's right. Then leave them be. If they say it's wrong. Don't be insulting and try to make them feel bad. Everyone has preferences. So don't knock people for it. " | |||
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"We could all just cheer up? If religists want to believe men on clouds or multi armed elephants or very serene fat guys then let them get on with it. Likewise if atheists want to believe that they are not just swallowing a doctrine whole without actually thinking about what it is they are agreeing to and therefore they are better, leave them to it. Lets just stop persecuting and assuming that a millenia old book is of literal importance. Love, eat, live. Every religion says to be peaceful and not to judge. So even if the wankers kill in it's name, if they are right, they are properly fucked later on. Bigots are not bigots because they are religious or non religious. They are bigots because they are cunts. " Atheists don't have a universal belief . All religions say to be peaceful do they ? I can think of a couple that say just a little bit more than that and that more is neither peaceful or Benevolent. Chapter after chapter , verse after verse in some of these texts promote a very bigoted narrow _iew encouraging violence and intolerance to other humans So are some people bigots and then choose to believe the bigoted parts or were they born non biggot ,indoctrinated that a text is the truth and they follow what they are taught. Thing is the atheists who do criticise those who follow certain religions do it with full knowledge of what that person is subscribed to . We know the Catholic _iew on sex and on homo sexuallity it and on women's rights once a person declares they feel a particular religious text to be true they indeed can be assessed by their belief Fact is Catholic Christianity is a bigoted and intolerant doctrine at its core Fortunately many who nievely suggest they are members of a particular religion are not , they may believe a creator exists and like some of the nostalgic ceremony but Christian or otherwise they are not x . | |||
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"We could all just cheer up? If religists want to believe men on clouds or multi armed elephants or very serene fat guys then let them get on with it. Likewise if atheists want to believe that they are not just swallowing a doctrine whole without actually thinking about what it is they are agreeing to and therefore they are better, leave them to it. Lets just stop persecuting and assuming that a millenia old book is of literal importance. Love, eat, live. Every religion says to be peaceful and not to judge. So even if the wankers kill in it's name, if they are right, they are properly fucked later on. Bigots are not bigots because they are religious or non religious. They are bigots because they are cunts. Atheists don't have a universal belief . All religions say to be peaceful do they ? I can think of a couple that say just a little bit more than that and that more is neither peaceful or Benevolent. Chapter after chapter , verse after verse in some of these texts promote a very bigoted narrow _iew encouraging violence and intolerance to other humans So are some people bigots and then choose to believe the bigoted parts or were they born non biggot ,indoctrinated that a text is the truth and they follow what they are taught. Thing is the atheists who do criticise those who follow certain religions do it with full knowledge of what that person is subscribed to . We know the Catholic _iew on sex and on homo sexuallity it and on women's rights once a person declares they feel a particular religious text to be true they indeed can be assessed by their belief Fact is Catholic Christianity is a bigoted and intolerant doctrine at its core Fortunately many who nievely suggest they are members of a particular religion are not , they may believe a creator exists and like some of the nostalgic ceremony but Christian or otherwise they are not x . "I am not arguing that. I am advocating we start ignoring te fighty bigoted bits of religion and if people must be religious, start paying attention to the tolerant peaceful bits which all religions teach as well. Whether or not it be hypocritical, people have ignored the bits of their creed which have got in the way of their own needs and requirements for centuries so if people must, they should ignore the shit intolerant bits. Your rant has been well covered in this and many other threads and a peaceful outcome requires you to get over yourself too. Holding grudges or whatever you want to call your reasons to hate catholic's belief (love thy neighbour, tolerate and interact with other faiths all being part of Jesus' teachings apparently) will not help anyone. Peace and universal equality is what us non believers need. Not a victory. | |||
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"We could all just cheer up? If religists want to believe men on clouds or multi armed elephants or very serene fat guys then let them get on with it. Likewise if atheists want to believe that they are not just swallowing a doctrine whole without actually thinking about what it is they are agreeing to and therefore they are better, leave them to it. Lets just stop persecuting and assuming that a millenia old book is of literal importance. Love, eat, live. Every religion says to be peaceful and not to judge. So even if the wankers kill in it's name, if they are right, they are properly fucked later on. Bigots are not bigots because they are religious or non religious. They are bigots because they are cunts. Atheists don't have a universal belief . All religions say to be peaceful do they ? I can think of a couple that say just a little bit more than that and that more is neither peaceful or Benevolent. Chapter after chapter , verse after verse in some of these texts promote a very bigoted narrow _iew encouraging violence and intolerance to other humans So are some people bigots and then choose to believe the bigoted parts or were they born non biggot ,indoctrinated that a text is the truth and they follow what they are taught. Thing is the atheists who do criticise those who follow certain religions do it with full knowledge of what that person is subscribed to . We know the Catholic _iew on sex and on homo sexuallity it and on women's rights once a person declares they feel a particular religious text to be true they indeed can be assessed by their belief Fact is Catholic Christianity is a bigoted and intolerant doctrine at its core Fortunately many who nievely suggest they are members of a particular religion are not , they may believe a creator exists and like some of the nostalgic ceremony but Christian or otherwise they are not x .
I am not arguing that. I am advocating we start ignoring te fighty bigoted bits of religion and if people must be religious, start paying attention to the tolerant peaceful bits which all religions teach as well. Whether or not it be hypocritical, people have ignored the bits of their creed which have got in the way of their own needs and requirements for centuries so if people must, they should ignore the shit intolerant bits. Your rant has been well covered in this and many other threads and a peaceful outcome requires you to get over yourself too.
Holding grudges or whatever you want to call your reasons to hate catholic's belief (love thy neighbour, tolerate and interact with other faiths all being part of Jesus' teachings apparently) will not help anyone. Peace and universal equality is what us non believers need. Not a victory."I really liked what you wrote at the end.... It's what we all need...and most of us want. Now to rid ourselves of the ruling class. | |||
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