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"I think its unfair hes been named to the public before being found guilty/innocent" ![]() | |||
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"Hes been charged with more offences. I never liked Saville or Hall and what they did is utterly despicable. I always did like Harris so if the allegations are found to be true, i will be very disappointed in him and hope that he gets hammered by the courts. " this ![]() ![]() | |||
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"However if by naming him it causes other victims to have the strength to come forward, as in the Hall case, then I'm reluctantly in favour of it" I agree with that- but still they should only be named when found guilty. | |||
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"I think its unfair hes been named to the public before being found guilty/innocent" So would this apply to everyone accused of a crime or just famous people, or just famous people that have a 'cuddly' public image? I just ask as no one suggested that Ian Watkins shouldn't be named and the way the law works is that one rule applies to all (unless you've got the cash for a super-injunction ![]() | |||
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"There are a lot of skint people aroud at the moment, and a big band wagon to jump on........ Just saying." .......... and no shortage of lawyers ready to help them clamber aboard. I fully expect someone to claim to have been abused by Shep, the Blue Peter dog ![]() | |||
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"I think its unfair hes been named to the public before being found guilty/innocent So would this apply to everyone accused of a crime or just famous people, or just famous people that have a 'cuddly' public image? I just ask as no one suggested that Ian Watkins shouldn't be named and the way the law works is that one rule applies to all (unless you've got the cash for a super-injunction ![]() I think everyone, famous or not shouldn't be publicly named until found guilty | |||
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"I think its unfair hes been named to the public before being found guilty/innocent So would this apply to everyone accused of a crime or just famous people, or just famous people that have a 'cuddly' public image? I just ask as no one suggested that Ian Watkins shouldn't be named and the way the law works is that one rule applies to all (unless you've got the cash for a super-injunction ![]() Nigella Lawson seems to have been convicted before she's even been charged. | |||
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"Hes been charged with more offences. I never liked Saville or Hall and what they did is utterly despicable. I always did like Harris so if the allegations are found to be true, i will be very disappointed in him and hope that he gets hammered by the courts. " I hope that the allegations are unfounded. I was really shocked when it hit the news. Will have to see what the courts decide. | |||
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"There are a lot of skint people aroud at the moment, and a big band wagon to jump on........ Just saying. .......... and no shortage of lawyers ready to help them clamber aboard. I fully expect someone to claim to have been abused by Shep, the Blue Peter dog ![]() As someone who is just going through the hell of reporting a man for something very similar, I can assure you this is not done lightly. Step back a bit and think about it really. If you need to report anything like this to the police do you think you can skip into a police station drop a name on the desk, stating he did x,y,z? Of course you fuckin can't. It is a horrid lengthy process and will no doubt turn my life upside down for months to come, starting between boxing day and new year when I have to give a full statement which will take hours and hours and bring back awful memories. I don't think anyone would volunteer to put themselves through that for a bit of fun do you ![]() | |||
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"There are a lot of skint people aroud at the moment, and a big band wagon to jump on........ Just saying. .......... and no shortage of lawyers ready to help them clamber aboard. I fully expect someone to claim to have been abused by Shep, the Blue Peter dog ![]() Oh but you can. Mathew Kelly and the Corrie guy spring to mind. Vile made up stories to obtain compensation and ruin lives. In the same token of the guilty being named and shamed after the trial has finished, those guilty of making abhorrent false allegations or proffit should also be named and prosecuted. | |||
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"Hes been charged with more offences. I never liked Saville or Hall and what they did is utterly despicable. I always did like Harris so if the allegations are found to be true, i will be very disappointed in him and hope that he gets hammered by the courts. Brings a whole new meaning to "Can you see what it is yet?" ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"There are a lot of skint people aroud at the moment, and a big band wagon to jump on........ Just saying. .......... and no shortage of lawyers ready to help them clamber aboard. I fully expect someone to claim to have been abused by Shep, the Blue Peter dog ![]() But that should not detract or deter genuine people coming forward so I think your comnents are uncalled for and those cases are very much in the minority. | |||
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"How many more 'celebs' are currently crapping themselves I wonder. " I was thinking the same thing too. I just hope they don't truly shatter my childhood heroes by citing Brian Cant, Derrick Griffiths or Johnny Ball! ![]() | |||
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"How many more 'celebs' are currently crapping themselves I wonder. I was thinking the same thing too. I just hope they don't truly shatter my childhood heroes by citing Brian Cant, Derrick Griffiths or Johnny Ball! ![]() I've noticed Derrick Griffiths voice in some radio adverts recently. It brought a massive smile to my face. I loved that guy. | |||
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"How many more 'celebs' are currently crapping themselves I wonder. I was thinking the same thing too. I just hope they don't truly shatter my childhood heroes by citing Brian Cant, Derrick Griffiths or Johnny Ball! ![]() Common knowledge that they were all stoners on playschool. It's in one of their biographies | |||
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"How many more 'celebs' are currently crapping themselves I wonder. I was thinking the same thing too. I just hope they don't truly shatter my childhood heroes by citing Brian Cant, Derrick Griffiths or Johnny Ball! ![]() Yup, I was brought up with Derrick Griffiths. Great voice. I will be gutted if there are any allegations about his " finger bobs!" | |||
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"However if by naming him it causes other victims to have the strength to come forward, as in the Hall case, then I'm reluctantly in favour of it" if they kept his identity secret until he had been charged the only difference it would make would be more victims wouldnt come forward until after he had been charged, then he can be charged with the further offenses. would rather that than, like freddie starr, his reputation be besmirched by rumour and allegation. | |||
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"There are a lot of skint people aroud at the moment, and a big band wagon to jump on........ Just saying. .......... and no shortage of lawyers ready to help them clamber aboard. I fully expect someone to claim to have been abused by Shep, the Blue Peter dog ![]() "Get down there, Shep!" ![]() | |||
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"im not one for trial by the 24 hr news channels as it is just another form of tabloid just look at Christopher Jefferies in the Joanna yeates case. we are innocent until proven guilty. " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I think its unfair hes been named to the public before being found guilty/innocent So would this apply to everyone accused of a crime or just famous people, or just famous people that have a 'cuddly' public image? I just ask as no one suggested that Ian Watkins shouldn't be named and the way the law works is that one rule applies to all (unless you've got the cash for a super-injunction ![]() Agree ![]() | |||
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"How come if child sexual abuse is so bad that people here make jokes about it ?" It's ok, if he's found guilty they'll be taking it seriously and demanding that he be hung or beaten up in prison. | |||
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"Hes been charged with more offences. I never liked Saville or Hall and what they did is utterly despicable. I always did like Harris so if the allegations are found to be true, i will be very disappointed in him and hope that he gets hammered by the courts. " I too will be very disappointed as a child I liked him on tv and his art show .. But if he did this he needs sorting in court .. So its out in the open what he has done to others and they can find a peace in the truth . | |||
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"How come if child sexual abuse is so bad that people here make jokes about it ? It's ok, if he's found guilty they'll be taking it seriously and demanding that he be hung or beaten up in prison. " ahh i have found out the hard way on fab forums , if you ask for that you get pissy comments about your post so i wont mention that if he found guilty he will get a soft touch prison due to his age with a warm cell and all the help he needs . as hes a human with fellings and has human rights on his side . so no im not going to mention that at all. | |||
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"How come if child sexual abuse is so bad that people here make jokes about it ?" At the moment they're just allegations - so don't worry - be ![]() | |||
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"How come if child sexual abuse is so bad that people here make jokes about it ? At the moment they're just allegations - so don't worry - be ![]() I am ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"How many more 'celebs' are currently crapping themselves I wonder. I was thinking the same thing too. I just hope they don't truly shatter my childhood heroes by citing Brian Cant, Derrick Griffiths or Johnny Ball! ![]() You're a horrid man: you'll be telling me Santa's not real next! ![]() | |||
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