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I wouldn't mind but let's be honest, Most of us on here are not exactly spring chickens and although we gain sexual experience with age the mileage also starts to show. And to be honest, while age can look good on some men, it rarely does any favours for women.
What makes me smile is that for many of the ladies that post such demands, their body shots, for they rarely show their faces, show clearly that the supermodels amongst them are rarer still.
For many, if you were feeling kind, the word 'tired' might spring to mind. If you were feeling unkind, a whole host of adjectives troop across the horizon! 
So lets have a reality check and get real, ladies. it will save hassle in the long run and probably get you more fun as well.
If such men existed they wouldn't need to be on here bothering, they could wander down to the local cattle market disco and have a whole bevy of hot, young, teenage totty lined up for a shag from here to Timbuctoo. 
Likewise, if you were actually good looking enough to justify such demands you would, according to your level of intelligence, contacts or luck, either be:-
a) Gracing the cover of Vogue and dating top sportsmen, movie and rock stars
b) Living in the Playboy mansion, on page 3 or working in the 'adult' industry, and dating footballers.
C) Working in a lapdance bar, escort agency, webcam house or brothel and probably have a pimp!
But one thing you sure as f*&@ wouldn't be doing is wasting your time or assets on here!
Now I am the first to admit that I am myself on the wrong side of middle age, no model and never have been. I am an ordinary looking, fairly normal guy - but at least I know that. I ask only for a reasonable decent looking lady to be considerate enough to bother to find out what I'm like before dismissing me.
And ladies, that word is the crux of the matter. Too many here think that when a guy takes the time and trouble to message you, the fact that you might 'not fancy him' gives you the god-given right to hit 'delete' or block without even bothering with a two word reply.
Yes, girls, it DOES come across as arrogant, rude, inconsiderate and belittling. Men can handle being told you're not interested - they do not appreciate being treated as though they're shit off your shoes because you 'don't fancy them' when they've taken the trouble to write to you - even if it's just a few lines.
Dare I say that , no, a bit of manners would not cost you anything. That a simple 'no thanks' would be far better received than a contemptuous delete. I will go further. perhaps a bit more, a 'no thanks - but thanks for asking,' might be in order as, heaven forbid for suggesting it, but you might actually have grounds for being at least grateful for the fact that they're interested enough to bother!
I myself do not send abusive 'hurt' replies - I'm realistic enough to know they don't achieve anything - but I CAN understand why some men send them.
Which is why I feel compelled to write this and explain it to the many women on here who obviously don't get it.
Try seeing it from the other side and you might find you get a lot less grief from many quarters - and probably end up with more friends and better experiences.
For the truth is, as most should be experienced enough to know by now - looks are nice but no guarantee or guide to either personality or performance (which is equally true of both sexes!)
So girls, stop behaving as if you're still dancing round your handbags with your mates at the local cattle market, imagining you're the queen of dance and sex and acting as if you're so special a man's got to have the face of George Clooney, the body of Schwarzenegger and the cock of John Holmes to justify you even speaking to him.
So for the new year let's have a quiet site revolution - a sense of realism, consideration, good manners and even gratitude - and I suspect we'll all get on better as a community and have a better social AND sex life.
(and to all the guys who are probably reading this and cheering - that includes YOU lot as well as a lot of you also ask for the way you're treated. It's not just the ladies who need to show some respect, for reasons I won't bother going into here. I just got sick of the women moaning about how 'hard done by' they are by 'rude' men.)
Oh yes, almost forgot - merry Christmas and a happy, considerate, 2014.
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"Nice long message but you must realize the women on here don't spend all day on here. If they were to reply to everyone, it would take them all day, they get 100s of messages so reading all, checking profiles, and replying to all is asking far too much. " I hope you are being sarcastic there as not all women get 100's messages per day | |||
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"OK then, here goes. Inspired by a brilliant 're_iew of the year' rant from JustJodie posted earlier, I'm going to chuck my own little hand grenade into this fetid little pond and see what stirs. Many will go 'OMG - he's just committed swinging suicide' but ladies, some things need to be said and some things have a real grain of truth in them and maybe you ought to listen and learn something. I am aware that this is a sex site and that swinging is dominated by couples and completely controlled by women but something needs to be said about the utterly ridiculous (and some might say, downright hypocritical) expectations of a lot of the ladies on here. It concerns the reasons why many of you end up feeling compelled to put notes at the end of your profiles complaining about the 'abuse' you sometimes receive from some people. This is usually about messages you don't bother to answer etc. I notice many of you say things like 'if I don't, I'm not being rude/not up my own arse' then try to explain it with 'I just don't fancy you etc,' but are clearly at a loss to understand why it might happen at all. I'm going to say something that will shock many of you - You do ask for it! Yes, I did really just say that - let me tell you why. We're all supposed to be mature, experienced adults here, who know what the real world of sex is all about. If so, why are so many ladies on here downright delusional! I makes me laugh to see how many ladies 'of a certain age' feel able (and justified) to state that their desired playmate must be young, fit, virile, handsome, have a muscled, athletic body, be hung like a donkey, have more cum in his balls that a damn shire horse and be able to pump all night like a nuclear powered piston engine on steroids. Oh, and as well as that, he must also be clean, disease free, hugely experienced, well groomed, intelligent, respectful of your 'boundaries' (i.e. willing to let you have it all your way, NOT that anyone might say you might be just a tad on the selfish side when you do bother to meet)and have a good sense of humour, a tongue like a Komodo dragon and, of course be able to breathe through his damn ears!
I wouldn't mind but let's be honest, Most of us on here are not exactly spring chickens and although we gain sexual experience with age the mileage also starts to show. And to be honest, while age can look good on some men, it rarely does any favours for women.
What makes me smile is that for many of the ladies that post such demands, their body shots, for they rarely show their faces, show clearly that the supermodels amongst them are rarer still.
For many, if you were feeling kind, the word 'tired' might spring to mind. If you were feeling unkind, a whole host of adjectives troop across the horizon!
So lets have a reality check and get real, ladies. it will save hassle in the long run and probably get you more fun as well.
If such men existed they wouldn't need to be on here bothering, they could wander down to the local cattle market disco and have a whole bevy of hot, young, teenage totty lined up for a shag from here to Timbuctoo.
Likewise, if you were actually good looking enough to justify such demands you would, according to your level of intelligence, contacts or luck, either be:-
a) Gracing the cover of Vogue and dating top sportsmen, movie and rock stars
b) Living in the Playboy mansion, on page 3 or working in the 'adult' industry, and dating footballers.
C) Working in a lapdance bar, escort agency, webcam house or brothel and probably have a pimp!
But one thing you sure as f*&@ wouldn't be doing is wasting your time or assets on here!
Now I am the first to admit that I am myself on the wrong side of middle age, no model and never have been. I am an ordinary looking, fairly normal guy - but at least I know that. I ask only for a reasonable decent looking lady to be considerate enough to bother to find out what I'm like before dismissing me.
And ladies, that word is the crux of the matter. Too many here think that when a guy takes the time and trouble to message you, the fact that you might 'not fancy him' gives you the god-given right to hit 'delete' or block without even bothering with a two word reply.
Yes, girls, it DOES come across as arrogant, rude, inconsiderate and belittling. Men can handle being told you're not interested - they do not appreciate being treated as though they're shit off your shoes because you 'don't fancy them' when they've taken the trouble to write to you - even if it's just a few lines.
Dare I say that , no, a bit of manners would not cost you anything. That a simple 'no thanks' would be far better received than a contemptuous delete. I will go further. perhaps a bit more, a 'no thanks - but thanks for asking,' might be in order as, heaven forbid for suggesting it, but you might actually have grounds for being at least grateful for the fact that they're interested enough to bother!
I myself do not send abusive 'hurt' replies - I'm realistic enough to know they don't achieve anything - but I CAN understand why some men send them.
Which is why I feel compelled to write this and explain it to the many women on here who obviously don't get it.
Try seeing it from the other side and you might find you get a lot less grief from many quarters - and probably end up with more friends and better experiences.
For the truth is, as most should be experienced enough to know by now - looks are nice but no guarantee or guide to either personality or performance (which is equally true of both sexes!)
So girls, stop behaving as if you're still dancing round your handbags with your mates at the local cattle market, imagining you're the queen of dance and sex and acting as if you're so special a man's got to have the face of George Clooney, the body of Schwarzenegger and the cock of John Holmes to justify you even speaking to him.
So for the new year let's have a quiet site revolution - a sense of realism, consideration, good manners and even gratitude - and I suspect we'll all get on better as a community and have a better social AND sex life.
(and to all the guys who are probably reading this and cheering - that includes YOU lot as well as a lot of you also ask for the way you're treated. It's not just the ladies who need to show some respect, for reasons I won't bother going into here. I just got sick of the women moaning about how 'hard done by' they are by 'rude' men.)
Oh yes, almost forgot - merry Christmas and a happy, considerate, 2014.
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"popcorn anyone?? " Popcorn isn't necessary. He's made his _iews clear and I read it all the way to end. | |||
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"Can someone sum that up into one paragraph for me please i dozed off after the first half.... " Dispute all my rage, I'm still just a rat in a cage | |||
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"Can someone sum that up into one paragraph for me please i dozed off after the first half.... Dispute all my rage, I'm still just a rat in a cage " Dispite* (stupid fat fingers) | |||
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"OK then, here goes. Inspired by a brilliant 're_iew of the year' rant from JustJodie posted earlier, I'm going to chuck my own little hand grenade into this fetid little pond and see what stirs. Many will go 'OMG - he's just committed swinging suicide' but ladies, some things need to be said and some things have a real grain of truth in them and maybe you ought to listen and learn something. I am aware that this is a sex site and that swinging is dominated by couples and completely controlled by women but something needs to be said about the utterly ridiculous (and some might say, downright hypocritical) expectations of a lot of the ladies on here. It concerns the reasons why many of you end up feeling compelled to put notes at the end of your profiles complaining about the 'abuse' you sometimes receive from some people. This is usually about messages you don't bother to answer etc. I notice many of you say things like 'if I don't, I'm not being rude/not up my own arse' then try to explain it with 'I just don't fancy you etc,' but are clearly at a loss to understand why it might happen at all. I'm going to say something that will shock many of you - You do ask for it! Yes, I did really just say that - let me tell you why. We're all supposed to be mature, experienced adults here, who know what the real world of sex is all about. If so, why are so many ladies on here downright delusional! I makes me laugh to see how many ladies 'of a certain age' feel able (and justified) to state that their desired playmate must be young, fit, virile, handsome, have a muscled, athletic body, be hung like a donkey, have more cum in his balls that a damn shire horse and be able to pump all night like a nuclear powered piston engine on steroids. Oh, and as well as that, he must also be clean, disease free, hugely experienced, well groomed, intelligent, respectful of your 'boundaries' (i.e. willing to let you have it all your way, NOT that anyone might say you might be just a tad on the selfish side when you do bother to meet)and have a good sense of humour, a tongue like a Komodo dragon and, of course be able to breathe through his damn ears!
I wouldn't mind but let's be honest, Most of us on here are not exactly spring chickens and although we gain sexual experience with age the mileage also starts to show. And to be honest, while age can look good on some men, it rarely does any favours for women.
What makes me smile is that for many of the ladies that post such demands, their body shots, for they rarely show their faces, show clearly that the supermodels amongst them are rarer still.
For many, if you were feeling kind, the word 'tired' might spring to mind. If you were feeling unkind, a whole host of adjectives troop across the horizon!
So lets have a reality check and get real, ladies. it will save hassle in the long run and probably get you more fun as well.
If such men existed they wouldn't need to be on here bothering, they could wander down to the local cattle market disco and have a whole bevy of hot, young, teenage totty lined up for a shag from here to Timbuctoo.
Likewise, if you were actually good looking enough to justify such demands you would, according to your level of intelligence, contacts or luck, either be:-
a) Gracing the cover of Vogue and dating top sportsmen, movie and rock stars
b) Living in the Playboy mansion, on page 3 or working in the 'adult' industry, and dating footballers.
C) Working in a lapdance bar, escort agency, webcam house or brothel and probably have a pimp!
But one thing you sure as f*&@ wouldn't be doing is wasting your time or assets on here!
Now I am the first to admit that I am myself on the wrong side of middle age, no model and never have been. I am an ordinary looking, fairly normal guy - but at least I know that. I ask only for a reasonable decent looking lady to be considerate enough to bother to find out what I'm like before dismissing me.
And ladies, that word is the crux of the matter. Too many here think that when a guy takes the time and trouble to message you, the fact that you might 'not fancy him' gives you the god-given right to hit 'delete' or block without even bothering with a two word reply.
Yes, girls, it DOES come across as arrogant, rude, inconsiderate and belittling. Men can handle being told you're not interested - they do not appreciate being treated as though they're shit off your shoes because you 'don't fancy them' when they've taken the trouble to write to you - even if it's just a few lines.
Dare I say that , no, a bit of manners would not cost you anything. That a simple 'no thanks' would be far better received than a contemptuous delete. I will go further. perhaps a bit more, a 'no thanks - but thanks for asking,' might be in order as, heaven forbid for suggesting it, but you might actually have grounds for being at least grateful for the fact that they're interested enough to bother!
I myself do not send abusive 'hurt' replies - I'm realistic enough to know they don't achieve anything - but I CAN understand why some men send them.
Which is why I feel compelled to write this and explain it to the many women on here who obviously don't get it.
Try seeing it from the other side and you might find you get a lot less grief from many quarters - and probably end up with more friends and better experiences.
For the truth is, as most should be experienced enough to know by now - looks are nice but no guarantee or guide to either personality or performance (which is equally true of both sexes!)
So girls, stop behaving as if you're still dancing round your handbags with your mates at the local cattle market, imagining you're the queen of dance and sex and acting as if you're so special a man's got to have the face of George Clooney, the body of Schwarzenegger and the cock of John Holmes to justify you even speaking to him.
So for the new year let's have a quiet site revolution - a sense of realism, consideration, good manners and even gratitude - and I suspect we'll all get on better as a community and have a better social AND sex life.
(and to all the guys who are probably reading this and cheering - that includes YOU lot as well as a lot of you also ask for the way you're treated. It's not just the ladies who need to show some respect, for reasons I won't bother going into here. I just got sick of the women moaning about how 'hard done by' they are by 'rude' men.)
Oh yes, almost forgot - merry Christmas and a happy, considerate, 2014.
"This, fat, non-spring chicken doesn't make demands in the way you list them as I'm sure nor do a lot of, if not all demand too much and if we do well, don't speak to us. | |||
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"It's not a god given right to press delete but it is a right and an option according to the site guidelines. I am not amongst the women who receive 100s of messages. I could respond to all of them individually. In fact I used to with a polite no thanks. I found that it does cost to be polite. Not only did it open the door for them to keep sending messages until I blocked them, it also allowed them to send abuse that I should be grateful at my age and state of ordinariness to have received a message from them. Let's not forget the same men/people who create new profiles with the same photos to send you another message. I am not replying to them again. I have learned that putting the wants/dos and don't messages on my profile doesn't work so they are not there. It doesn't mean I will say yes to everyone. Now, I agree with you that SOME people (not just women) have unrealistic expectations of people on this site and are a tad delusional about themselves. However, the women I might think of like that are very well verified and get more meets than I do. So perhaps they aren't being unrealistic and there are men that value them and their sensuality. As to the rather sweeping statement that women don't age well - bollocks! Merry Christmas and Happy Swinging." | |||
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"Can someone sum that up into one paragraph for me please i dozed off after the first half.... " Sure....us ladies ain't all that. We're ignorant, don't give the fuglies a chance, quick to delete and should be grateful for any shag we get  | |||
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"I think a précis of that would be 'man pissed off that ugly, fat old women can demand sex with virile fit young chaps'. " ...and get it! | |||
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"I got as far as this bit... 'Men can handle being told you're not interested' then lost the will to read further! However I'm sure your in box will be inundated after that short outburst! "it probably will be bulging with mail .... but not offers of a shag methinks | |||
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"Great rant ............. But they do have the god given right to delete , block .............." So do men. There are no features on this site that are 'women only'. | |||
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"I got as far as this bit... 'Men can handle being told you're not interested' then lost the will to read further! However I'm sure your in box will be inundated after that short outburst! "Blimey you got further than me | |||
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"I always think when I read these rants that its obviously got to the point that sex has become so important to the poster that all other things have become less important. If that was the case with me, if I felt anger and frustration when my messages are deleted without reply, I know its time to get off the site and get a sense of proportion. Sex is nice. Sex is fun. Sex feels great. But it should not be something we have to have to be happy. And yes, I do get my messages deleted without reply. As one of those 'all-powerful' single women (don't make me laugh!) I have also been turned down by men. And that's fine, because they read my profile and decided I was not what they were after. So I shrug and move on. No-one is entitled to anything on here. Not a wink, a message, a reply, or even a shag! I know I know, how very dare we show discernment in the men we let between our legs. But for something so personal and intimate surely I should be able to pick a man who is attractive to me, physically and mentally? Or is it only one way on here and us women 'of a certain age' should be grateful for any attention we receive? TL:DR - take a chill pill mate. This is supposed to be fun." Exactly! I have been deleted without response and I have been turned down when sending messages. That's exactly as it should be: if I don't meet what that man is looking for that is his choice. | |||
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"I got as far as this bit... 'Men can handle being told you're not interested' then lost the will to read further! However I'm sure your in box will be inundated after that short outburst!
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"Totally disagree with pretty much the whole post in afraid! Who people want to meet us their preference. The age, body style, physical attributes and sex of who someone meets is their preference. Who people choose to reply to or block is their preference. What people write in their profiles is their preference. It always appears to be those being rejected, ignored or simply not having their 'expectations' met that feel the need to have a dig at others - be they single of either sex or couple. Those having fun, engaging with others via messages, forums, clubs, socials and meets - must be far too busy to moan!
"Oh I moan, but it's the fit, virile, hot as fuck single men I meet on here buried between my fat thighs that cause it to be fair! | |||
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"As to the rather sweeping statement that women don't age well - bollocks! Merry Christmas and Happy Swinging." | |||
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"Great rant ............. But they do have the god given right to delete , block .............. You need to accept that not everyone has manners and that being rude is down to character , so those who block or delete you are probably doing you a favour.......... "Aaah shucks, I didn't know ignoring men outwith my criteria was rude...shame...on...me! | |||
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"Great rant ............. But they do have the god given right to delete , block .............. So do men. There are no features on this site that are 'women only'." Absolutely ......we all have equal rights and choices and our own unique preferences .............viva la difference.... | |||
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"I think a précis of that would be 'man pissed off that ugly, fat old women can demand sex with virile fit young chaps'. ...and get it! "Mmmm I've had some  | |||
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"Great rant ............. But they do have the god given right to delete , block .............. You need to accept that not everyone has manners and that being rude is down to character , so those who block or delete you are probably doing you a favour..........
Aaah shucks, I didn't know ignoring men outwith my criteria was rude...shame...on...me! "Ignoring men or messages ........... Freedom of choice , but I would always reply to anyone ..........ok , I don't get many , but to those that do message and do not fit my criteria I would let them and have let them down politely............if I had lots ............block delete. | |||
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"OK then, here goes. Inspired by a brilliant 're_iew of the year' rant from JustJodie posted earlier, I'm going to chuck my own little hand grenade into this fetid little pond and see what stirs. Many will go 'OMG - he's just committed swinging suicide' but ladies, some things need to be said and some things have a real grain of truth in them and maybe you ought to listen and learn something. I am aware that this is a sex site and that swinging is dominated by couples and completely controlled by women but something needs to be said about the utterly ridiculous (and some might say, downright hypocritical) expectations of a lot of the ladies on here. It concerns the reasons why many of you end up feeling compelled to put notes at the end of your profiles complaining about the 'abuse' you sometimes receive from some people. This is usually about messages you don't bother to answer etc. I notice many of you say things like 'if I don't, I'm not being rude/not up my own arse' then try to explain it with 'I just don't fancy you etc,' but are clearly at a loss to understand why it might happen at all. I'm going to say something that will shock many of you - You do ask for it! Yes, I did really just say that - let me tell you why. We're all supposed to be mature, experienced adults here, who know what the real world of sex is all about. If so, why are so many ladies on here downright delusional! I makes me laugh to see how many ladies 'of a certain age' feel able (and justified) to state that their desired playmate must be young, fit, virile, handsome, have a muscled, athletic body, be hung like a donkey, have more cum in his balls that a damn shire horse and be able to pump all night like a nuclear powered piston engine on steroids. Oh, and as well as that, he must also be clean, disease free, hugely experienced, well groomed, intelligent, respectful of your 'boundaries' (i.e. willing to let you have it all your way, NOT that anyone might say you might be just a tad on the selfish side when you do bother to meet)and have a good sense of humour, a tongue like a Komodo dragon and, of course be able to breathe through his damn ears!
I wouldn't mind but let's be honest, Most of us on here are not exactly spring chickens and although we gain sexual experience with age the mileage also starts to show. And to be honest, while age can look good on some men, it rarely does any favours for women.
What makes me smile is that for many of the ladies that post such demands, their body shots, for they rarely show their faces, show clearly that the supermodels amongst them are rarer still.
For many, if you were feeling kind, the word 'tired' might spring to mind. If you were feeling unkind, a whole host of adjectives troop across the horizon!
So lets have a reality check and get real, ladies. it will save hassle in the long run and probably get you more fun as well.
If such men existed they wouldn't need to be on here bothering, they could wander down to the local cattle market disco and have a whole bevy of hot, young, teenage totty lined up for a shag from here to Timbuctoo.
Likewise, if you were actually good looking enough to justify such demands you would, according to your level of intelligence, contacts or luck, either be:-
a) Gracing the cover of Vogue and dating top sportsmen, movie and rock stars
b) Living in the Playboy mansion, on page 3 or working in the 'adult' industry, and dating footballers.
C) Working in a lapdance bar, escort agency, webcam house or brothel and probably have a pimp!
But one thing you sure as f*&@ wouldn't be doing is wasting your time or assets on here!
Now I am the first to admit that I am myself on the wrong side of middle age, no model and never have been. I am an ordinary looking, fairly normal guy - but at least I know that. I ask only for a reasonable decent looking lady to be considerate enough to bother to find out what I'm like before dismissing me.
And ladies, that word is the crux of the matter. Too many here think that when a guy takes the time and trouble to message you, the fact that you might 'not fancy him' gives you the god-given right to hit 'delete' or block without even bothering with a two word reply.
Yes, girls, it DOES come across as arrogant, rude, inconsiderate and belittling. Men can handle being told you're not interested - they do not appreciate being treated as though they're shit off your shoes because you 'don't fancy them' when they've taken the trouble to write to you - even if it's just a few lines.
Dare I say that , no, a bit of manners would not cost you anything. That a simple 'no thanks' would be far better received than a contemptuous delete. I will go further. perhaps a bit more, a 'no thanks - but thanks for asking,' might be in order as, heaven forbid for suggesting it, but you might actually have grounds for being at least grateful for the fact that they're interested enough to bother!
I myself do not send abusive 'hurt' replies - I'm realistic enough to know they don't achieve anything - but I CAN understand why some men send them.
Which is why I feel compelled to write this and explain it to the many women on here who obviously don't get it.
Try seeing it from the other side and you might find you get a lot less grief from many quarters - and probably end up with more friends and better experiences.
For the truth is, as most should be experienced enough to know by now - looks are nice but no guarantee or guide to either personality or performance (which is equally true of both sexes!)
So girls, stop behaving as if you're still dancing round your handbags with your mates at the local cattle market, imagining you're the queen of dance and sex and acting as if you're so special a man's got to have the face of George Clooney, the body of Schwarzenegger and the cock of John Holmes to justify you even speaking to him.
So for the new year let's have a quiet site revolution - a sense of realism, consideration, good manners and even gratitude - and I suspect we'll all get on better as a community and have a better social AND sex life.
(and to all the guys who are probably reading this and cheering - that includes YOU lot as well as a lot of you also ask for the way you're treated. It's not just the ladies who need to show some respect, for reasons I won't bother going into here. I just got sick of the women moaning about how 'hard done by' they are by 'rude' men.)
Oh yes, almost forgot - merry Christmas and a happy, considerate, 2014.
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"Totally disagree with pretty much the whole post in afraid! Who people want to meet us their preference. The age, body style, physical attributes and sex of who someone meets is their preference. Who people choose to reply to or block is their preference. What people write in their profiles is their preference. It always appears to be those being rejected, ignored or simply not having their 'expectations' met that feel the need to have a dig at others - be they single of either sex or couple. Those having fun, engaging with others via messages, forums, clubs, socials and meets - must be far too busy to moan!
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Mmmm I've had some "shes spot on when a big bird knocks you back its a kick in the nuts.but women can pick and choose wno they fuck with ease .its like am old joke 3lads get asked if you could covered in something what would it be john replies gold miss id scratch a bit of and buy a bmw.next lee says platinum miss its worth more than gold id scratch some off and buy a porsche.what a about you tommy PUBIC Hair miss .shocked she asks why .well miss my sister only has a little triangle and she has a bmw a porsche and a rolls royce outside her house most nights | |||
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"Great rant ............. But they do have the god given right to delete , block .............. You need to accept that not everyone has manners and that being rude is down to character , so those who block or delete you are probably doing you a favour..........
Aaah shucks, I didn't know ignoring men outwith my criteria was rude...shame...on...me!
Ignoring men or messages ...........
Freedom of choice , but I would always reply to anyone ..........ok , I don't get many , but to those that do message and do not fit my criteria I would let them and have let them down politely............if I had lots ............block delete. "When visible my profile doesn't attract many and has a lot of filters. I'm looking to meet tall, straight, single, sub men between 45 and 55, within five miles of West Dulwich who can accommodate and not in a hotel: ever, seeking a fat, black Domme. Pretty specific don't you think, yet you'd think me rude if I ignored a bi married travelling salesman hold up in a Travel Lodge at Tower Bridge wanting me to give him a blow job. You may be happy for any kind of contact, me? I'll continue to ignore those not respecting my preferences. | |||
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"The odd valid point amongst all this, particularly concerning "tired" individuals with less than reasonable expectations or downright arrogance and rudery, but the question that is left foremost in my mind is: who is John Holmes? "70s porn star with massive cock ...died of aids after sleeping with 5000 women and many men ...when contracted the disease cried why me | |||
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Aaah shucks, I didn't know ignoring men outwith my criteria was rude...shame...on...me!
Ignoring men or messages ...........
Freedom of choice , but I would always reply to anyone ..........ok , I don't get many , but to those that do message and do not fit my criteria I would let them and have let them down politely............if I had lots ............block delete.
When visible my profile doesn't attract many and has a lot of filters. I'm looking to meet tall, straight, single, sub men between 45 and 55, within five miles of West Dulwich who can accommodate and not in a hotel: ever, seeking a fat, black Domme.
Pretty specific don't you think, yet you'd think me rude if I ignored a bi married travelling salesman hold up in a Travel Lodge at Tower Bridge wanting me to give him a blow job.
You may be happy for any kind of contact, me? I'll continue to ignore those not respecting my preferences. "I'm sure there is a plethora of tall, slim , single , submissive guys who can accommodate.......... wanting a fat black Domme within a five mile radius of Dulwich but how would they know you are actually available to them if they can't see your profile .................. As for me , I respect all profiles and preferences .......... | |||
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"I have also posted similar sentiments expressing amazement at the sense of expectation of some of the women on here ...rants demands and then pan to pics expecting helen of troy and confronted with the gargoyle above the stage at the london palladium. Suppose its best to be sanguine ...lifes not fair ...women exploit our horniness but are governed by .irationality and hormones and age far worse than men ...thats life " Go fuck a man then... Plenty to choose from | |||
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"OK then, here goes. Inspired by a brilliant 're_iew of the year' rant from JustJodie posted earlier, I'm going to chuck my own little hand grenade into this fetid little pond and see what stirs. Many will go 'OMG - he's just committed swinging suicide' but ladies, some things need to be said and some things have a real grain of truth in them and maybe you ought to listen and learn something. I am aware that this is a sex site and that swinging is dominated by couples and completely controlled by women but something needs to be said about the utterly ridiculous (and some might say, downright hypocritical) expectations of a lot of the ladies on here. It concerns the reasons why many of you end up feeling compelled to put notes at the end of your profiles complaining about the 'abuse' you sometimes receive from some people. This is usually about messages you don't bother to answer etc. I notice many of you say things like 'if I don't, I'm not being rude/not up my own arse' then try to explain it with 'I just don't fancy you etc,' but are clearly at a loss to understand why it might happen at all. I'm going to say something that will shock many of you - You do ask for it! Yes, I did really just say that - let me tell you why. We're all supposed to be mature, experienced adults here, who know what the real world of sex is all about. If so, why are so many ladies on here downright delusional! I makes me laugh to see how many ladies 'of a certain age' feel able (and justified) to state that their desired playmate must be young, fit, virile, handsome, have a muscled, athletic body, be hung like a donkey, have more cum in his balls that a damn shire horse and be able to pump all night like a nuclear powered piston engine on steroids. Oh, and as well as that, he must also be clean, disease free, hugely experienced, well groomed, intelligent, respectful of your 'boundaries' (i.e. willing to let you have it all your way, NOT that anyone might say you might be just a tad on the selfish side when you do bother to meet)and have a good sense of humour, a tongue like a Komodo dragon and, of course be able to breathe through his damn ears!
I wouldn't mind but let's be honest, Most of us on here are not exactly spring chickens and although we gain sexual experience with age the mileage also starts to show. And to be honest, while age can look good on some men, it rarely does any favours for women.
What makes me smile is that for many of the ladies that post such demands, their body shots, for they rarely show their faces, show clearly that the supermodels amongst them are rarer still.
For many, if you were feeling kind, the word 'tired' might spring to mind. If you were feeling unkind, a whole host of adjectives troop across the horizon!
So lets have a reality check and get real, ladies. it will save hassle in the long run and probably get you more fun as well.
If such men existed they wouldn't need to be on here bothering, they could wander down to the local cattle market disco and have a whole bevy of hot, young, teenage totty lined up for a shag from here to Timbuctoo.
Likewise, if you were actually good looking enough to justify such demands you would, according to your level of intelligence, contacts or luck, either be:-
a) Gracing the cover of Vogue and dating top sportsmen, movie and rock stars
b) Living in the Playboy mansion, on page 3 or working in the 'adult' industry, and dating footballers.
C) Working in a lapdance bar, escort agency, webcam house or brothel and probably have a pimp!
But one thing you sure as f*&@ wouldn't be doing is wasting your time or assets on here!
Now I am the first to admit that I am myself on the wrong side of middle age, no model and never have been. I am an ordinary looking, fairly normal guy - but at least I know that. I ask only for a reasonable decent looking lady to be considerate enough to bother to find out what I'm like before dismissing me.
And ladies, that word is the crux of the matter. Too many here think that when a guy takes the time and trouble to message you, the fact that you might 'not fancy him' gives you the god-given right to hit 'delete' or block without even bothering with a two word reply.
Yes, girls, it DOES come across as arrogant, rude, inconsiderate and belittling. Men can handle being told you're not interested - they do not appreciate being treated as though they're shit off your shoes because you 'don't fancy them' when they've taken the trouble to write to you - even if it's just a few lines.
Dare I say that , no, a bit of manners would not cost you anything. That a simple 'no thanks' would be far better received than a contemptuous delete. I will go further. perhaps a bit more, a 'no thanks - but thanks for asking,' might be in order as, heaven forbid for suggesting it, but you might actually have grounds for being at least grateful for the fact that they're interested enough to bother!
I myself do not send abusive 'hurt' replies - I'm realistic enough to know they don't achieve anything - but I CAN understand why some men send them.
Which is why I feel compelled to write this and explain it to the many women on here who obviously don't get it.
Try seeing it from the other side and you might find you get a lot less grief from many quarters - and probably end up with more friends and better experiences.
For the truth is, as most should be experienced enough to know by now - looks are nice but no guarantee or guide to either personality or performance (which is equally true of both sexes!)
So girls, stop behaving as if you're still dancing round your handbags with your mates at the local cattle market, imagining you're the queen of dance and sex and acting as if you're so special a man's got to have the face of George Clooney, the body of Schwarzenegger and the cock of John Holmes to justify you even speaking to him.
So for the new year let's have a quiet site revolution - a sense of realism, consideration, good manners and even gratitude - and I suspect we'll all get on better as a community and have a better social AND sex life.
(and to all the guys who are probably reading this and cheering - that includes YOU lot as well as a lot of you also ask for the way you're treated. It's not just the ladies who need to show some respect, for reasons I won't bother going into here. I just got sick of the women moaning about how 'hard done by' they are by 'rude' men.)
Oh yes, almost forgot - merry Christmas and a happy, considerate, 2014.
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"It's not a god given right to press delete but it is a right and an option according to the site guidelines. I am not amongst the women who receive 100s of messages. I could respond to all of them individually. In fact I used to with a polite no thanks. I found that it does cost to be polite. Not only did it open the door for them to keep sending messages until I blocked them, it also allowed them to send abuse that I should be grateful at my age and state of ordinariness to have received a message from them. Let's not forget the same men/people who create new profiles with the same photos to send you another message. I am not replying to them again. I have learned that putting the wants/dos and don't messages on my profile doesn't work so they are not there. It doesn't mean I will say yes to everyone. Now, I agree with you that SOME people (not just women) have unrealistic expectations of people on this site and are a tad delusional about themselves. However, the women I might think of like that are very well verified and get more meets than I do. So perhaps they aren't being unrealistic and there are men that value them and their sensuality. As to the rather sweeping statement that women don't age well - bollocks! Merry Christmas and Happy Swinging." Well said. | |||
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"I doubt very much that 99% of people on here are couples. And women can't pick and choose as they wish - it may be balanced towards their favour but don't kid yourself that all women can take their pick. I don't find single men surplus either, not at all." I am on here to meet single men, not single ladies or couples. And yet that still shouldn't mean I can't have a preference in the guys I meet. And I certainly cannot take my pick. Arranging a one on one meet can be soul destroying for someone with a low self image, and as for getting men to commit to a GB? Forget it. Having seen some men on here who I previously admired via their forum posts agree with this misogynistic rant I might just stick to clubs from now on. At least the men there choose to shag me. | |||
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"OK then, here goes. Inspired by a brilliant 're_iew of the year' rant from JustJodie posted earlier, I'm going to chuck my own little hand grenade into this fetid little pond and see what stirs. Many will go 'OMG - he's just committed swinging suicide' but ladies, some things need to be said and some things have a real grain of truth in them and maybe you ought to listen and learn something. I am aware that this is a sex site and that swinging is dominated by couples and completely controlled by women but something needs to be said about the utterly ridiculous (and some might say, downright hypocritical) expectations of a lot of the ladies on here. It concerns the reasons why many of you end up feeling compelled to put notes at the end of your profiles complaining about the 'abuse' you sometimes receive from some people. This is usually about messages you don't bother to answer etc. I notice many of you say things like 'if I don't, I'm not being rude/not up my own arse' then try to explain it with 'I just don't fancy you etc,' but are clearly at a loss to understand why it might happen at all. I'm going to say something that will shock many of you - You do ask for it! Yes, I did really just say that - let me tell you why. We're all supposed to be mature, experienced adults here, who know what the real world of sex is all about. If so, why are so many ladies on here downright delusional! I makes me laugh to see how many ladies 'of a certain age' feel able (and justified) to state that their desired playmate must be young, fit, virile, handsome, have a muscled, athletic body, be hung like a donkey, have more cum in his balls that a damn shire horse and be able to pump all night like a nuclear powered piston engine on steroids. Oh, and as well as that, he must also be clean, disease free, hugely experienced, well groomed, intelligent, respectful of your 'boundaries' (i.e. willing to let you have it all your way, NOT that anyone might say you might be just a tad on the selfish side when you do bother to meet)and have a good sense of humour, a tongue like a Komodo dragon and, of course be able to breathe through his damn ears!
I wouldn't mind but let's be honest, Most of us on here are not exactly spring chickens and although we gain sexual experience with age the mileage also starts to show. And to be honest, while age can look good on some men, it rarely does any favours for women.
What makes me smile is that for many of the ladies that post such demands, their body shots, for they rarely show their faces, show clearly that the supermodels amongst them are rarer still.
For many, if you were feeling kind, the word 'tired' might spring to mind. If you were feeling unkind, a whole host of adjectives troop across the horizon!
So lets have a reality check and get real, ladies. it will save hassle in the long run and probably get you more fun as well.
If such men existed they wouldn't need to be on here bothering, they could wander down to the local cattle market disco and have a whole bevy of hot, young, teenage totty lined up for a shag from here to Timbuctoo.
Likewise, if you were actually good looking enough to justify such demands you would, according to your level of intelligence, contacts or luck, either be:-
a) Gracing the cover of Vogue and dating top sportsmen, movie and rock stars
b) Living in the Playboy mansion, on page 3 or working in the 'adult' industry, and dating footballers.
C) Working in a lapdance bar, escort agency, webcam house or brothel and probably have a pimp!
But one thing you sure as f*&@ wouldn't be doing is wasting your time or assets on here!
Now I am the first to admit that I am myself on the wrong side of middle age, no model and never have been. I am an ordinary looking, fairly normal guy - but at least I know that. I ask only for a reasonable decent looking lady to be considerate enough to bother to find out what I'm like before dismissing me.
And ladies, that word is the crux of the matter. Too many here think that when a guy takes the time and trouble to message you, the fact that you might 'not fancy him' gives you the god-given right to hit 'delete' or block without even bothering with a two word reply.
Yes, girls, it DOES come across as arrogant, rude, inconsiderate and belittling. Men can handle being told you're not interested - they do not appreciate being treated as though they're shit off your shoes because you 'don't fancy them' when they've taken the trouble to write to you - even if it's just a few lines.
Dare I say that , no, a bit of manners would not cost you anything. That a simple 'no thanks' would be far better received than a contemptuous delete. I will go further. perhaps a bit more, a 'no thanks - but thanks for asking,' might be in order as, heaven forbid for suggesting it, but you might actually have grounds for being at least grateful for the fact that they're interested enough to bother!
I myself do not send abusive 'hurt' replies - I'm realistic enough to know they don't achieve anything - but I CAN understand why some men send them.
Which is why I feel compelled to write this and explain it to the many women on here who obviously don't get it.
Try seeing it from the other side and you might find you get a lot less grief from many quarters - and probably end up with more friends and better experiences.
For the truth is, as most should be experienced enough to know by now - looks are nice but no guarantee or guide to either personality or performance (which is equally true of both sexes!)
So girls, stop behaving as if you're still dancing round your handbags with your mates at the local cattle market, imagining you're the queen of dance and sex and acting as if you're so special a man's got to have the face of George Clooney, the body of Schwarzenegger and the cock of John Holmes to justify you even speaking to him.
So for the new year let's have a quiet site revolution - a sense of realism, consideration, good manners and even gratitude - and I suspect we'll all get on better as a community and have a better social AND sex life.
(and to all the guys who are probably reading this and cheering - that includes YOU lot as well as a lot of you also ask for the way you're treated. It's not just the ladies who need to show some respect, for reasons I won't bother going into here. I just got sick of the women moaning about how 'hard done by' they are by 'rude' men.)
Oh yes, almost forgot - merry Christmas and a happy, considerate, 2014.
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"Here's the deal - 99% of swingers are couples. Single guys are pretty much surplus to requirements. Very few couples are looking for them, and the few single girls that are on here are normally looking for couples or other women. That leaves the tiny tiny proportion of couples and singles that might - if they want - hook up with a single male. Surpus to requirements? Ive had dozens of meets on here mostly with couples Here's the killer - no matter what they look like, no matter how old they are, and no matter how confident they are, women and couples can choose whoever they like. It has nothing to do with anyone else. The fact is most men will sleep with anyone, so women CAN afford to be choosy. I am part of a couple, if we split I can tell you this, no way would I ever even think of continuing on this path. Id cut and run. More chance of finding a shag on a proper dating site. Look at clubs. Single guys are very rarely anything more than walking dildos. I'm not being a dick, its just the facts. " | |||
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"OK then, here goes. Inspired by a brilliant 're_iew of the year' rant from JustJodie posted earlier, I'm going to chuck my own little hand grenade into this fetid little pond and see what stirs. Many will go 'OMG - he's just committed swinging suicide' but ladies, some things need to be said and some things have a real grain of truth in them and maybe you ought to listen and learn something. I am aware that this is a sex site and that swinging is dominated by couples and completely controlled by women but something needs to be said about the utterly ridiculous (and some might say, downright hypocritical) expectations of a lot of the ladies on here. It concerns the reasons why many of you end up feeling compelled to put notes at the end of your profiles complaining about the 'abuse' you sometimes receive from some people. This is usually about messages you don't bother to answer etc. I notice many of you say things like 'if I don't, I'm not being rude/not up my own arse' then try to explain it with 'I just don't fancy you etc,' but are clearly at a loss to understand why it might happen at all. I'm going to say something that will shock many of you - You do ask for it! Yes, I did really just say that - let me tell you why. We're all supposed to be mature, experienced adults here, who know what the real world of sex is all about. If so, why are so many ladies on here downright delusional! I makes me laugh to see how many ladies 'of a certain age' feel able (and justified) to state that their desired playmate must be young, fit, virile, handsome, have a muscled, athletic body, be hung like a donkey, have more cum in his balls that a damn shire horse and be able to pump all night like a nuclear powered piston engine on steroids. Oh, and as well as that, he must also be clean, disease free, hugely experienced, well groomed, intelligent, respectful of your 'boundaries' (i.e. willing to let you have it all your way, NOT that anyone might say you might be just a tad on the selfish side when you do bother to meet)and have a good sense of humour, a tongue like a Komodo dragon and, of course be able to breathe through his damn ears!
I wouldn't mind but let's be honest, Most of us on here are not exactly spring chickens and although we gain sexual experience with age the mileage also starts to show. And to be honest, while age can look good on some men, it rarely does any favours for women.
What makes me smile is that for many of the ladies that post such demands, their body shots, for they rarely show their faces, show clearly that the supermodels amongst them are rarer still.
For many, if you were feeling kind, the word 'tired' might spring to mind. If you were feeling unkind, a whole host of adjectives troop across the horizon!
So lets have a reality check and get real, ladies. it will save hassle in the long run and probably get you more fun as well.
If such men existed they wouldn't need to be on here bothering, they could wander down to the local cattle market disco and have a whole bevy of hot, young, teenage totty lined up for a shag from here to Timbuctoo.
Likewise, if you were actually good looking enough to justify such demands you would, according to your level of intelligence, contacts or luck, either be:-
a) Gracing the cover of Vogue and dating top sportsmen, movie and rock stars
b) Living in the Playboy mansion, on page 3 or working in the 'adult' industry, and dating footballers.
C) Working in a lapdance bar, escort agency, webcam house or brothel and probably have a pimp!
But one thing you sure as f*&@ wouldn't be doing is wasting your time or assets on here!
Now I am the first to admit that I am myself on the wrong side of middle age, no model and never have been. I am an ordinary looking, fairly normal guy - but at least I know that. I ask only for a reasonable decent looking lady to be considerate enough to bother to find out what I'm like before dismissing me.
And ladies, that word is the crux of the matter. Too many here think that when a guy takes the time and trouble to message you, the fact that you might 'not fancy him' gives you the god-given right to hit 'delete' or block without even bothering with a two word reply.
Yes, girls, it DOES come across as arrogant, rude, inconsiderate and belittling. Men can handle being told you're not interested - they do not appreciate being treated as though they're shit off your shoes because you 'don't fancy them' when they've taken the trouble to write to you - even if it's just a few lines.
Dare I say that , no, a bit of manners would not cost you anything. That a simple 'no thanks' would be far better received than a contemptuous delete. I will go further. perhaps a bit more, a 'no thanks - but thanks for asking,' might be in order as, heaven forbid for suggesting it, but you might actually have grounds for being at least grateful for the fact that they're interested enough to bother!
I myself do not send abusive 'hurt' replies - I'm realistic enough to know they don't achieve anything - but I CAN understand why some men send them.
Which is why I feel compelled to write this and explain it to the many women on here who obviously don't get it.
Try seeing it from the other side and you might find you get a lot less grief from many quarters - and probably end up with more friends and better experiences.
For the truth is, as most should be experienced enough to know by now - looks are nice but no guarantee or guide to either personality or performance (which is equally true of both sexes!)
So girls, stop behaving as if you're still dancing round your handbags with your mates at the local cattle market, imagining you're the queen of dance and sex and acting as if you're so special a man's got to have the face of George Clooney, the body of Schwarzenegger and the cock of John Holmes to justify you even speaking to him.
So for the new year let's have a quiet site revolution - a sense of realism, consideration, good manners and even gratitude - and I suspect we'll all get on better as a community and have a better social AND sex life.
(and to all the guys who are probably reading this and cheering - that includes YOU lot as well as a lot of you also ask for the way you're treated. It's not just the ladies who need to show some respect, for reasons I won't bother going into here. I just got sick of the women moaning about how 'hard done by' they are by 'rude' men.)
Oh yes, almost forgot - merry Christmas and a happy, considerate, 2014.
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I wouldn't mind but let's be honest, Most of us on here are not exactly spring chickens and although we gain sexual experience with age the mileage also starts to show. And to be honest, while age can look good on some men, it rarely does any favours for women.
What makes me smile is that for many of the ladies that post such demands, their body shots, for they rarely show their faces, show clearly that the supermodels amongst them are rarer still.
For many, if you were feeling kind, the word 'tired' might spring to mind. If you were feeling unkind, a whole host of adjectives troop across the horizon!
So lets have a reality check and get real, ladies. it will save hassle in the long run and probably get you more fun as well.
If such men existed they wouldn't need to be on here bothering, they could wander down to the local cattle market disco and have a whole bevy of hot, young, teenage totty lined up for a shag from here to Timbuctoo.
Likewise, if you were actually good looking enough to justify such demands you would, according to your level of intelligence, contacts or luck, either be:-
a) Gracing the cover of Vogue and dating top sportsmen, movie and rock stars
b) Living in the Playboy mansion, on page 3 or working in the 'adult' industry, and dating footballers.
C) Working in a lapdance bar, escort agency, webcam house or brothel and probably have a pimp!
But one thing you sure as f*&@ wouldn't be doing is wasting your time or assets on here!
Now I am the first to admit that I am myself on the wrong side of middle age, no model and never have been. I am an ordinary looking, fairly normal guy - but at least I know that. I ask only for a reasonable decent looking lady to be considerate enough to bother to find out what I'm like before dismissing me.
And ladies, that word is the crux of the matter. Too many here think that when a guy takes the time and trouble to message you, the fact that you might 'not fancy him' gives you the god-given right to hit 'delete' or block without even bothering with a two word reply.
Yes, girls, it DOES come across as arrogant, rude, inconsiderate and belittling. Men can handle being told you're not interested - they do not appreciate being treated as though they're shit off your shoes because you 'don't fancy them' when they've taken the trouble to write to you - even if it's just a few lines.
Dare I say that , no, a bit of manners would not cost you anything. That a simple 'no thanks' would be far better received than a contemptuous delete. I will go further. perhaps a bit more, a 'no thanks - but thanks for asking,' might be in order as, heaven forbid for suggesting it, but you might actually have grounds for being at least grateful for the fact that they're interested enough to bother!
I myself do not send abusive 'hurt' replies - I'm realistic enough to know they don't achieve anything - but I CAN understand why some men send them.
Which is why I feel compelled to write this and explain it to the many women on here who obviously don't get it.
Try seeing it from the other side and you might find you get a lot less grief from many quarters - and probably end up with more friends and better experiences.
For the truth is, as most should be experienced enough to know by now - looks are nice but no guarantee or guide to either personality or performance (which is equally true of both sexes!)
So girls, stop behaving as if you're still dancing round your handbags with your mates at the local cattle market, imagining you're the queen of dance and sex and acting as if you're so special a man's got to have the face of George Clooney, the body of Schwarzenegger and the cock of John Holmes to justify you even speaking to him.
So for the new year let's have a quiet site revolution - a sense of realism, consideration, good manners and even gratitude - and I suspect we'll all get on better as a community and have a better social AND sex life.
(and to all the guys who are probably reading this and cheering - that includes YOU lot as well as a lot of you also ask for the way you're treated. It's not just the ladies who need to show some respect, for reasons I won't bother going into here. I just got sick of the women moaning about how 'hard done by' they are by 'rude' men.)
Oh yes, almost forgot - merry Christmas and a happy, considerate, 2014.
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"To the OP you just come across as a male with a big chip on your shoulder. As for reading your rant and cheering ? slightly deluded of you to think that most of us males,share your mindset. I think your rant is a pile of shite but all the best to you. Nah he does...that's a pretty brave thing to say...we'll get guys playing the "all women are beautiful card" now trying to score brownie points..but its true...good on ya OP for being honest...still doesn't change anything...its a womens world here...but its still fun. I agree, it's only a woman's world in here though because sycophantic , weak , desperate men let them. Don't lower you standards , don't kiss ass , don't change yourself, and if all that fails have a wank, got to be better than chasing some fat bird on here "We don't run very fast. | |||
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"Yeah _icketysplits we get them too, funnily usually from straight.guys. I usually either just delete or occasionally respond about their inadequate cock size "Where are the threads about men being rude and inconsiderate and up themselves for just deleting the messages then? Why is this sort of rant thread always directed against women? Could it be that these threads really just reveal the thinly disguised misogynists for what they really are? I must start a thread about all the men with demanding profiles and even more demanding messages thinking they are god's gift to womankind. I won't because it really doesn't bother me if men think I am not for them. I just find it funny when I get sent a picture of a tiny flaccid cock hanging below a beer belly on a man who looks closer to 60 than the 49 he claims on his profile. It usually comes with a message telling me they are very well endowed, athletic and young and that they are free right now to meet me. | |||
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"Can someone sum that up into one paragraph for me please i dozed off after the first half.... " | |||
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"The odd valid point amongst all this, particularly concerning "tired" individuals with less than reasonable expectations or downright arrogance and rudery, but the question that is left foremost in my mind is: who is John Holmes? "Porn star that died of aids back in the 80's....there was a film made about him called dirk diggler | |||
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after reading that lot, I m now really tired,,
Night all,,
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"Took me two reads (bloody hard work) " you managed 2 god couldn't get through it once nice summary | |||
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