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By *riskygaz OP   Man
over a year ago

birmingham

I am a school caretaker, and I have been up on a couple of the school roofs today in the pissing rain fixing leaks, the one roof was slipy as fook! and if I fall I cant claim a penny as I shouldn't really be up there. so what sort of risks are you expected to take at work ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You Arnt, Thats what a Risk Assessment is for

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suggest you google Jason Anker and watch his video.

Certainly puts things into perspective

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By *aisy100Woman
over a year ago

wakefield


"You Arnt, Thats what a Risk Assessment is for"

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"You Arnt, Thats what a Risk Assessment is for"
Exactly, there will be a risk assessment for it somewhere...if there isn't someone needs to do one and quick!

I think you are silly for getting up there in the first place without the necessary safety equipment in place, if indeed there wasn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work

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By *anny PepperoniMan
over a year ago

Matlock

Ditto all these and if anything did happen your employer would be up to their dangly bits with the HSE. You shouldn't be up there full stop and they shouldn't allow it.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"I am a school caretaker, and I have been up on a couple of the school roofs today in the pissing rain fixing leaks, the one roof was slipy as fook! and if I fall I cant claim a penny as I shouldn't really be up there. so what sort of risks are you expected to take at work ?"

Family Biz - I work with my Dad

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By *stwo80Couple
over a year ago

yorkshire


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work"
. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!! "

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

I don't get it... Why an earth would you risk being paralysed for the rest of your life or dying to fix a leak?

If something happened you would be negligent right across the board and so would your employer.

No employer can 'expect' you to do anything that puts yourself or others at risk. (Armed forces aside)

I've been there and come out the otherside trust me.... It's not worth it at all!

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By *riskygaz OP   Man
over a year ago

birmingham


"I suggest you google Jason Anker and watch his video.

Certainly puts things into perspective

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I took a look at the video and yes it does make you think about what could happen :-$

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I'm as safe as houses at work, although I did have to put my foot down when my boss asked me to be more daring with red lights and not to just stop when they went onto amber.

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By *stwo80Couple
over a year ago

yorkshire


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back."

. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

I came out of fisheries (the most unsafe industry) and into farming (the second most unsafe). I must be a glutton for punishment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in "

Oh I do love the forces banter ( ex RAF Regiment myself )

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By *stwo80Couple
over a year ago

yorkshire

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in

Oh I do love the forces banter ( ex RAF Regiment myself ) "

i know lol and that armchair idiot says 9 squadron?wtf just made themselfs look as thik as there coments lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Spent 25 risking my arse in the oil drilling game.... but then again I was never approached by NASA to nuke and asteroid and save the world,,,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am a school caretaker, and I have been up on a couple of the school roofs today in the pissing rain fixing leaks, the one roof was slipy as fook! and if I fall I cant claim a penny as I shouldn't really be up there. so what sort of risks are you expected to take at work ?"

You answered your own question its really stupid anyone on a roof when pissing it down but without proper equipment and knowledge and risk assessment done it borders on mentally insane.

School will have insurance let them sort it. They will not care if you fall but may sue you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in (

Oh I do love the forces banter ( ex RAF Regiment myself )

i know lol and that armchair idiot says 9 squadron?wtf just made themselfs look as thik as there coments lol"

All banter mate as you know all branches of the forces think they'r better than the other

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria


"Spent 25 risking my arse in the oil drilling game.... but then again I was never approached by NASA to nuke and asteroid and save the world,,, "

I can see you in the remake...taking Liv Tyler's role

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if you did it on your own back,then you are the idiot,if the school told you to do the repair then they should be reported to the HSE ,you only have the one life,take care of it.

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By *stwo80Couple
over a year ago

yorkshire

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

I have some contact with radioactive substances, damn monitor went into alarm on me the other day, had to wait 20 minutes in me factory clothes for Health Physics to turn up, was frisked and it seems the machine was on the fritz - fortunately I didn't need scrubbing with wire wool brushes

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By *stwo80Couple
over a year ago

yorkshire


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in

Oh I do love the forces banter ( ex RAF Regiment myself )

i know lol and that armchair idiot says 9 squadron?wtf just made themselfs look as thik as there coments lol"

. You really do need to do yer homework mr edwards !

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

You army guys don't know danger... I was in was in the RAF cadets...

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By *stwo80Couple
over a year ago

yorkshire

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By *stwo80Couple
over a year ago

yorkshire

Fair play to you , some great guys I worked with started in the cadets. So who was Rsm when you were in 3 then mr edwards ????

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I am a school caretaker, and I have been up on a couple of the school roofs today in the pissing rain fixing leaks, the one roof was slipy as fook! and if I fall I cant claim a penny as I shouldn't really be up there. so what sort of risks are you expected to take at work ?"

dont do it then..

not worth ending up dead or disabled for the rest of your natural..

you cant be 'made to do it', so dont..

call out someone with the right gear and know how etc..

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"I have some contact with radioactive substances, damn monitor went into alarm on me the other day, had to wait 20 minutes in me factory clothes for Health Physics to turn up, was frisked and it seems the machine was on the fritz - fortunately I didn't need scrubbing with wire wool brushes "

What have I told you about trying to take over the world? Bad Caz!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Walking past a running jet engine to uncouple an airstart unit from an aircraft

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Spent 25 risking my arse in the oil drilling game.... but then again I was never approached by NASA to nuke and asteroid and save the world,,,

I can see you in the remake...taking Liv Tyler's role "

Oo'er I'd like that..... does she take it up the arse too...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I once got a really bad paper cut.

The funniest accident I saw was a desk mate breaking his nose adjusting his chair... he sued the company and now chair adjustment is part of the induction for new starters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am a school caretaker, and I have been up on a couple of the school roofs today in the pissing rain fixing leaks, the one roof was slipy as fook! and if I fall I cant claim a penny as I shouldn't really be up there. so what sort of risks are you expected to take at work ?"

I understand it's your dad but how would he feel if the unthinkable happened. I work In schools and I know they are short of money but a roofer would be safer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in "

Squadron lol i think this poor braind dead disrespectful windup merchant is getting the raf and army a tad mixed up .

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By *opping_candyWoman
over a year ago

West Yorkshire

Don't come across any risk to life or limb in my job - apart from the possibility of being assaulted by some of the kids.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"You army guys don't know danger... I was in was in the RAF cadets... "

So was I. Those bloody drumsticks were lethal

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in

Squadron lol i think this poor braind dead disrespectful windup merchant is getting the raf and army a tad mixed up ."

9 Squadron (9 Independant Parachute Sqn, Royal Engineers) is an Army unit..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in

Squadron lol i think this poor braind dead disrespectful windup merchant is getting the raf and army a tad mixed up ."

May I politely suggest you research 9 parachute squadron RE also known as 9 SQN before suggesting they're RAF

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Good job no one mentioned the drop shorts or the scalies..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good job no one mentioned the drop shorts or the scalies.. "

So many more we could mention

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You army guys don't know danger... I was in was in the RAF cadets... "

that was easy try bring in the Sea Cadets, now that is dangerous

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in

Oh I do love the forces banter ( ex RAF Regiment myself ) "

Always one rockape to make the place smell bad

Guins rule.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in

Oh I do love the forces banter ( ex RAF Regiment myself )

Always one rockape to make the place smell bad

Guins rule. "

Spat a bit of coffee out at that lol!!! What trade? X

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By *stwo80Couple
over a year ago

yorkshire

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By *stwo80Couple
over a year ago

yorkshire


"

Squadron lol i think this poor braind dead disrespectful windup merchant is getting the raf and army a tad mixed up ."

. Well blow me !!! All those years service thinking I was in the Army and now you tell me I was in the RAF !! I could have been wearing shoes not boots !!!! Good job you are on the ball Emma.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Squadron lol i think this poor braind dead disrespectful windup merchant is getting the raf and army a tad mixed up .. Well blow me !!! All those years service thinking I was in the Army and now you tell me I was in the RAF !! I could have been wearing shoes not boots !!!! Good job you are on the ball Emma. "

Excuse me ex RAF and I wore boots

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By *stwo80Couple
over a year ago

yorkshire

Sorry about that ! lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry about that ! lol"

Lol always make allowances for the airborne brotherhood

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By *stwo80Couple
over a year ago

yorkshire


"Sorry about that ! lol

Lol always make allowances for the airborne brotherhood "

. Its usually appologies people make for us !! Lol

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Sorry about that ! lol

Lol always make allowances for the airborne brotherhood "

Some, at least, will have landed on their heads.

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By *stwo80Couple
over a year ago

yorkshire


"Sorry about that ! lol

Lol always make allowances for the airborne brotherhood

Some, at least, will have landed on their heads."

. .............................................................. At least theres no feeling there !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry about that ! lol

Lol always make allowances for the airborne brotherhood . Its usually appologies people make for us !! Lol"

Lol very true been there many a time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry about that ! lol

Lol always make allowances for the airborne brotherhood

Some, at least, will have landed on their heads."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in

Oh I do love the forces banter ( ex RAF Regiment myself )

Always one rockape to make the place smell bad

Guins rule.

Spat a bit of coffee out at that lol!!! What trade? X "

Jafad. Ex rapier tech. Proper rapier, not the new toss

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in ;-

Oh I do love the forces banter ( ex RAF Regiment myself )

Always one rockape to make the place smell bad

Guins rule.

Spat a bit of coffee out at that lol!!! What trade? X

Jafad. Ex rapier tech. Proper rapier, not the new toss "

Lol did my time on them early 80s then went field

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Squadron lol i think this poor braind dead disrespectful windup merchant is getting the raf and army a tad mixed up ."

ohhh the epic fail here is quite astounding

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You army guys don't know danger... I was in was in the RAF cadets...

that was easy try bring in the Sea Cadets, now that is dangerous"

Tried them that's why I went to RAF

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in ;-

Oh I do love the forces banter ( ex RAF Regiment myself )

Always one rockape to make the place smell bad

Guins rule.

Spat a bit of coffee out at that lol!!! What trade? X

Jafad. Ex rapier tech. Proper rapier, not the new toss

Lol did my time on them early 80s then went field "

Waaaaaaaayyy before my time then!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work fir a commercial cleaning company, we don't do anything without seeing a risk assessment or method statement, your employer has a duty of care to have one in place for any job you do, from mopping a floor to exterior roof work. They are obliged to ensure you are properly trained to fo the jobs you are expected to do. You as an employee are within your rights to refuse to do anything that could be classed as dangerous without the proper safeguards put in place first, if your employer is not prepared to implement those safeguards, you don't do the jib, and there is nothing they can legally do to you to make you do it.

mike

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in ;-

Oh I do love the forces banter ( ex RAF Regiment myself )

Always one rockape to make the place smell bad

Guins rule.

Spat a bit of coffee out at that lol!!! What trade? X

Jafad. Ex rapier tech. Proper rapier, not the new toss

Lol did my time on them early 80s then went field

Waaaaaaaayyy before my time then! "

Lol when you join ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

June 1990.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

drive a truck for a living.

risk life and limb every day, with the low standard of some drivers today.

saw 3 cars pile into each other last night, on the M5.

not 1 brake light illuminated.

says it all to me.

people in too much of a rush and not paying attention to whats around them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"June 1990. "

Was still floating around then but left rapiers

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"I am a school caretaker, and I have been up on a couple of the school roofs today in the pissing rain fixing leaks, the one roof was slipy as fook! and if I fall I cant claim a penny as I shouldn't really be up there. so what sort of risks are you expected to take at work ?"

Your an idiot! You know its not your job, that your not insured and the roof is dangerous. (Hint if its leaking there are holes and you can fall through them! And it is a safe bet that other parts of the roof are also weak!) But you still go up there to fix the leaks!

Not only putting your own life unnecessarily in danger but endangering the lives of everyone under you. (What would happen if you fell through the roof and landed on a child?) And in the process made sure that a firm of roofers lost out on a contract to make the proper repairs. you never know you may even have managed to get someone laid off just before Christmas!

Then you come here looking for praise when you should be bowing your head in shame and looking for a rock to hide under!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am a school caretaker, and I have been up on a couple of the school roofs today in the pissing rain fixing leaks, the one roof was slipy as fook! and if I fall I cant claim a penny as I shouldn't really be up there. so what sort of risks are you expected to take at work ?

Your an idiot! You know its not your job, that your not insured and the roof is dangerous. (Hint if its leaking there are holes and you can fall through them! And it is a safe bet that other parts of the roof are also weak!) But you still go up there to fix the leaks!

Not only putting your own life unnecessarily in danger but endangering the lives of everyone under you. (What would happen if you fell through the roof and landed on a child?) And in the process made sure that a firm of roofers lost out on a contract to make the proper repairs. you never know you may even have managed to get someone laid off just before Christmas!

Then you come here looking for praise when you should be bowing your head in shame and looking for a rock to hide under!"

a bit harsh!

nothing bad about trying to save the school a bit of money, hell, you have no idea, it might be a little rural school that only just manages to stay on budget.

its no one elses responsibility to get anyone else a job, or a bit of work.

the OP isnt to blame for this mystical roofer being laid off, but his boss is for not getting enough work in for the workforce, when there is clearly enough there, he jsut has to find it.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"I am a school caretaker, and I have been up on a couple of the school roofs today in the pissing rain fixing leaks, the one roof was slipy as fook! and if I fall I cant claim a penny as I shouldn't really be up there. so what sort of risks are you expected to take at work ?

Your an idiot! You know its not your job, that your not insured and the roof is dangerous. (Hint if its leaking there are holes and you can fall through them! And it is a safe bet that other parts of the roof are also weak!) But you still go up there to fix the leaks!

Not only putting your own life unnecessarily in danger but endangering the lives of everyone under you. (What would happen if you fell through the roof and landed on a child?) And in the process made sure that a firm of roofers lost out on a contract to make the proper repairs. you never know you may even have managed to get someone laid off just before Christmas!

Then you come here looking for praise when you should be bowing your head in shame and looking for a rock to hide under!

a bit harsh!

nothing bad about trying to save the school a bit of money, hell, you have no idea, it might be a little rural school that only just manages to stay on budget.

its no one elses responsibility to get anyone else a job, or a bit of work.

the OP isnt to blame for this mystical roofer being laid off, but his boss is for not getting enough work in for the workforce, when there is clearly enough there, he jsut has to find it."

Would you say that if the school caretaker crashed through the roof and landed on your child's head?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I am a school caretaker, and I have been up on a couple of the school roofs today in the pissing rain fixing leaks, the one roof was slipy as fook! and if I fall I cant claim a penny as I shouldn't really be up there. so what sort of risks are you expected to take at work ?

Your an idiot! You know its not your job, that your not insured and the roof is dangerous. (Hint if its leaking there are holes and you can fall through them! And it is a safe bet that other parts of the roof are also weak!) But you still go up there to fix the leaks!

Not only putting your own life unnecessarily in danger but endangering the lives of everyone under you. (What would happen if you fell through the roof and landed on a child?) And in the process made sure that a firm of roofers lost out on a contract to make the proper repairs. you never know you may even have managed to get someone laid off just before Christmas!

Then you come here looking for praise when you should be bowing your head in shame and looking for a rock to hide under!"

go easy m8, you never done anything and then thought 'what if' after..

know i have, called being human and occasionally making a bad decision..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am a school caretaker, and I have been up on a couple of the school roofs today in the pissing rain fixing leaks, the one roof was slipy as fook! and if I fall I cant claim a penny as I shouldn't really be up there. so what sort of risks are you expected to take at work ?

Your an idiot! You know its not your job, that your not insured and the roof is dangerous. (Hint if its leaking there are holes and you can fall through them! And it is a safe bet that other parts of the roof are also weak!) But you still go up there to fix the leaks!

Not only putting your own life unnecessarily in danger but endangering the lives of everyone under you. (What would happen if you fell through the roof and landed on a child?) And in the process made sure that a firm of roofers lost out on a contract to make the proper repairs. you never know you may even have managed to get someone laid off just before Christmas!

Then you come here looking for praise when you should be bowing your head in shame and looking for a rock to hide under!

a bit harsh!

nothing bad about trying to save the school a bit of money, hell, you have no idea, it might be a little rural school that only just manages to stay on budget.

its no one elses responsibility to get anyone else a job, or a bit of work.

the OP isnt to blame for this mystical roofer being laid off, but his boss is for not getting enough work in for the workforce, when there is clearly enough there, he jsut has to find it.Would you say that if the school caretaker crashed through the roof and landed on your child's head?"

Has there ever been a case of school caretaker landing on child? Why do people always try to see the bad side of things the op was doing his job and only asked for advice didn't deserve being accused of losing peoples jobs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am a school caretaker, and I have been up on a couple of the school roofs today in the pissing rain fixing leaks, the one roof was slipy as fook! and if I fall I cant claim a penny as I shouldn't really be up there. so what sort of risks are you expected to take at work ?

Your an idiot! You know its not your job, that your not insured and the roof is dangerous. (Hint if its leaking there are holes and you can fall through them! And it is a safe bet that other parts of the roof are also weak!) But you still go up there to fix the leaks!

Not only putting your own life unnecessarily in danger but endangering the lives of everyone under you. (What would happen if you fell through the roof and landed on a child?) And in the process made sure that a firm of roofers lost out on a contract to make the proper repairs. you never know you may even have managed to get someone laid off just before Christmas!

Then you come here looking for praise when you should be bowing your head in shame and looking for a rock to hide under!

a bit harsh!

nothing bad about trying to save the school a bit of money, hell, you have no idea, it might be a little rural school that only just manages to stay on budget.

its no one elses responsibility to get anyone else a job, or a bit of work.

the OP isnt to blame for this mystical roofer being laid off, but his boss is for not getting enough work in for the workforce, when there is clearly enough there, he jsut has to find it.Would you say that if the school caretaker crashed through the roof and landed on your child's head?"

no, but thats got nothign to do with someone being laid off before xmas or the OP being a lowlife.

get things int operspective.

the school is asking him to do jobs to save a bit of money.

IF anything bad as you have suggested happens, they, and he, will have a lawsuit on their hands.

thats what they will have to live with.

you have used a shotgun approach to being insulting towards the OP for going over and above his job description.

i know i have done things i shouldnt do to save a company some money, or time.

if you havent then thats fair enough

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Would you say that if the school caretaker crashed through the roof and landed on your child's head?"

If is a big word yes..?

if you had read your post before hitting send you may have stepped back and thought 'hang on, sounds a bit ott'..

suppose its guys like the OP that have been suppressing the economy with their deliberate targetting of local SME's..?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Actually I''m a rope access tech. I fully understand the risks attached to working at height and although I may have been a bit harsh in some of my comments the fact is that most injuries resulting from working at height are caused by dropping stuff on others heads! (Its why you cant enter any area where there are overhead risks without a safety hat on.)

As for him doing his job, he was not doing his job, if it was his job he would have had the proper safety equipment and have been trained in the use of it. Clearly he was not. Too many people go "above and beyond" to save their employers some money, and their bosses laugh all the way to the bank in the knowledge that the they have another fool on the books that will "do whats required" and of course become the patsy when things go wrong.

But dont worry no harm done...the leak was fixed and the school saved a few quid...And they have a caretaker with a "can do" attitude. And next time when its the heating boiler or the wiring, he will rush in with his DIY skills and save the day again! We need more like that!

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"suppose its guys like the OP that have been suppressing the economy with their deliberate targetting of local SME's..?"

No but its guys like the OP that enable "call me (were all in it together) Dave" and his cronies to get away with systematically destroying this country in the name of profit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a lollipop lady and see idiots every day. A small child ran out in front of a luckily slow moving car yesterday. My heart was in my stomach and also his mother was in shock. Nothing anyone could do to stop him, he just ran. Today, the driver of the car came up to me and asked if it shocked me as much as him. I said yes and he asked me if I had a go at the his mother!

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"I'm a lollipop lady and see idiots every day. A small child ran out in front of a luckily slow moving car yesterday. My heart was in my stomach and also his mother was in shock. Nothing anyone could do to stop him, he just ran. Today, the driver of the car came up to me and asked if it shocked me as much as him. I said yes and he asked me if I had a go at the his mother! "

I fully understand what you are saying, the world is full of ignorant people (people who ignore) who do things because they want to and then look for someone else to blame when things go wrong.

Its gone beyond a joke! We complain about health and safety gone wild but we ignore the most obvious of risks and then find it strange when our children copy us. Finally when things go wrong we look for someone else to blame!

Personally I find it amazing that we get away with it as much as we do!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a lollipop lady and see idiots every day. A small child ran out in front of a luckily slow moving car yesterday. My heart was in my stomach and also his mother was in shock. Nothing anyone could do to stop him, he just ran. Today, the driver of the car came up to me and asked if it shocked me as much as him. I said yes and he asked me if I had a go at the his mother!

I fully understand what you are saying, the world is full of ignorant people (people who ignore) who do things because they want to and then look for someone else to blame when things go wrong.

Its gone beyond a joke! We complain about health and safety gone wild but we ignore the most obvious of risks and then find it strange when our children copy us. Finally when things go wrong we look for someone else to blame!

Personally I find it amazing that we get away with it as much as we do!"

But and a serious question isn't it because H&S has gone wild that now we try to blame others ? A bit of the American attitude

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"I'm a lollipop lady and see idiots every day. A small child ran out in front of a luckily slow moving car yesterday. My heart was in my stomach and also his mother was in shock. Nothing anyone could do to stop him, he just ran. Today, the driver of the car came up to me and asked if it shocked me as much as him. I said yes and he asked me if I had a go at the his mother!

I fully understand what you are saying, the world is full of ignorant people (people who ignore) who do things because they want to and then look for someone else to blame when things go wrong.

Its gone beyond a joke! We complain about health and safety gone wild but we ignore the most obvious of risks and then find it strange when our children copy us. Finally when things go wrong we look for someone else to blame!

Personally I find it amazing that we get away with it as much as we do!

But and a serious question isn't it because H&S has gone wild that now we try to blame others ? A bit of the American attitude "

I understand your confusion, but the reality is that even with Health and Safety legislation you still get idiots that think they know better, so the regulations get even tighter. And still we get people like the OP who knows he is risking his own safety but fails to understand how many others he is putting at risk by his actions ignoring health and safety.

Then you get the you get the other type of idiot who thinks that its OK for others to ignore H&S until it effects them. And when that happens they shout foul and demand that that someone be held to account and pay!

The result is that everything at work requires a safety assessment and if you do something that is not part of your job or you do not follow the safe methods as laid down in the safety assessment then you are criminally responsible for your actions and any ensuing consequences.

The fact is that blame and claim culture is an inevitable result of the US corporate system where you drive down costs by cutting back the workforce and doing everything on the cheap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a lollipop lady and see idiots every day. A small child ran out in front of a luckily slow moving car yesterday. My heart was in my stomach and also his mother was in shock. Nothing anyone could do to stop him, he just ran. Today, the driver of the car came up to me and asked if it shocked me as much as him. I said yes and he asked me if I had a go at the his mother!

I fully understand what you are saying, the world is full of ignorant people (people who ignore) who do things because they want to and then look for someone else to blame when things go wrong.

Its gone beyond a joke! We complain about health and safety gone wild but we ignore the most obvious of risks and then find it strange when our children copy us. Finally when things go wrong we look for someone else to blame!

Personally I find it amazing that we get away with it as much as we do!

But and a serious question isn't it because H&S has gone wild that now we try to blame others ? A bit of the American attitude

I understand your confusion, but the reality is that even with Health and Safety legislation you still get idiots that think they know better, so the regulations get even tighter. And still we get people like the OP who knows he is risking his own safety but fails to understand how many others he is putting at risk by his actions ignoring health and safety.

Then you get the you get the other type of idiot who thinks that its OK for others to ignore H&S until it effects them. And when that happens they shout foul and demand that that someone be held to account and pay!

The result is that everything at work requires a safety assessment and if you do something that is not part of your job or you do not follow the safe methods as laid down in the safety assessment then you are criminally responsible for your actions and any ensuing consequences.

The fact is that blame and claim culture is an inevitable result of the US corporate system where you drive down costs by cutting back the workforce and doing everything on the cheap.

"

Thank you for your reply I understand what your saying but the op whilst being a bit silly for want of a better word was doing what I would consider a good thing whilst he understood what he was doing could be dangerous I would assume he did an on the spot risk assessment. I would think he at least carried out the first 2 steps of the 5 step risk assessment and decided that it was acceptable to do what he did ( remembering that sometimes chance of incident compared to cost of putting something else in place is acceptable ) he may have fixed leak for the next ten years cost nothing call roof company fix for next ten years cost thousands.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

health and safety isn't there to stop people doing things. Its only purpose is to highlight the risks associated with the activity. Its then up to the person or the organisation to decide if these risks would be considered acceptable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a electrician,I would never do somthing to put myself and others in danger.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"health and safety isn't there to stop people doing things. Its only purpose is to highlight the risks associated with the activity. Its then up to the person or the organisation to decide if these risks would be considered acceptable."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm pretty sure that roofing isn't a task that school caretakers are expected to carry out.

Kate used to be a school secretary and she says that their caretakers couldn't do things like replacing glass in broken windows in case the caretaker cut himself and put a claim in. They used to use the local tradesmen for everything.

The caretaker only used to open up and lock up and keep the heating system up to spec.

They don't even cut the fookin' grass themselves these days.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"I'm a electrician,I would never do somthing to put myself and others in danger."

Its funny, people who do jobs that have real objective dangers spend their lives doing everything in their power to remove and reduce subjective dangers. While on the other hand those who work in objectively safe environments seem to spend their lives ignoring the risks they and others take in order to save a few minutes or quid!

The perfect example being farming, which according to an earlier poster the second most dangerous job in the UK... Now maybe someone can tell me what the objective dangers are in farming (and getting dragged into a piece of running machinery while trying to clear a blockage does not count as if the machine had been turned off and isolated it could not have happened)?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a electrician,I would never do somthing to put myself and others in danger.

Its funny, people who do jobs that have real objective dangers spend their lives doing everything in their power to remove and reduce subjective dangers. While on the other hand those who work in objectively safe environments seem to spend their lives ignoring the risks they and others take in order to save a few minutes or quid!

The perfect example being farming, which according to an earlier poster the second most dangerous job in the UK... Now maybe someone can tell me what the objective dangers are in farming (and getting dragged into a piece of running machinery while trying to clear a blockage does not count as if the machine had been turned off and isolated it could not have happened)?"

Really without geting into a argument can I suggest you research it a bit before you come out with some of your statements

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"suppose its guys like the OP that have been suppressing the economy with their deliberate targetting of local SME's..?

No but its guys like the OP that enable "call me (were all in it together) Dave" and his cronies to get away with systematically destroying this country in the name of profit. "

your stretching it beyond even that of a socialist worker banner headline with that..

btw, not a fan of our dave as my green arrow will indicate..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a electrician,I would never do somthing to put myself and others in danger.

Its funny, people who do jobs that have real objective dangers spend their lives doing everything in their power to remove and reduce subjective dangers. While on the other hand those who work in objectively safe environments seem to spend their lives ignoring the risks they and others take in order to save a few minutes or quid!

The perfect example being farming, which according to an earlier poster the second most dangerous job in the UK... Now maybe someone can tell me what the objective dangers are in farming (and getting dragged into a piece of running machinery while trying to clear a blockage does not count as if the machine had been turned off and isolated it could not have happened)?

Really without geting into a argument can I suggest you research it a bit before you come out with some of your statements"

Think what his trying to express is ,the lower risk of injury the bigger risk you'll take (cutting corners).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a electrician,I would never do somthing to put myself and others in danger.

Its funny, people who do jobs that have real objective dangers spend their lives doing everything in their power to remove and reduce subjective dangers. While on the other hand those who work in objectively safe environments seem to spend their lives ignoring the risks they and others take in order to save a few minutes or quid!

The perfect example being farming, which according to an earlier poster the second most dangerous job in the UK... Now maybe someone can tell me what the objective dangers are in farming (and getting dragged into a piece of running machinery while trying to clear a blockage does not count as if the machine had been turned off and isolated it could not have happened)?

Really without geting into a argument can I suggest you research it a bit before you come out with some of your statements

Think what his trying to express is ,the lower risk of injury the bigger risk you'll take (cutting corners).

"

Fair enough but I would say farming has a high risk of injury as shown by percentage of farmers hurt / killed to number in profession. As you know 1 death is low but if there's only 2 people in profesion it's a high percentage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a electrician,I would never do somthing to put myself and others in danger.

Its funny, people who do jobs that have real objective dangers spend their lives doing everything in their power to remove and reduce subjective dangers. While on the other hand those who work in objectively safe environments seem to spend their lives ignoring the risks they and others take in order to save a few minutes or quid!

The perfect example being farming, which according to an earlier poster the second most dangerous job in the UK... Now maybe someone can tell me what the objective dangers are in farming (and getting dragged into a piece of running machinery while trying to clear a blockage does not count as if the machine had been turned off and isolated it could not have happened)?

Really without geting into a argument can I suggest you research it a bit before you come out with some of your statements

Think what his trying to express is ,the lower risk of injury the bigger risk you'll take (cutting corners).

Fair enough but I would say farming has a high risk of injury as shown by percentage of farmers hurt / killed to number in profession. As you know 1 death is low but if there's only 2 people in profesion it's a high percentage "

The biggest problem farm workers have to overcome is lone working.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a electrician,I would never do somthing to put myself and others in danger.

Its funny, people who do jobs that have real objective dangers spend their lives doing everything in their power to remove and reduce subjective dangers. While on the other hand those who work in objectively safe environments seem to spend their lives ignoring the risks they and others take in order to save a few minutes or quid!

The perfect example being farming, which according to an earlier poster the second most dangerous job in the UK... Now maybe someone can tell me what the objective dangers are in farming (and getting dragged into a piece of running machinery while trying to clear a blockage does not count as if the machine had been turned off and isolated it could not have happened)?

Really without geting into a argument can I suggest you research it a bit before you come out with some of your statements

Think what his trying to express is ,the lower risk of injury the bigger risk you'll take (cutting corners).

Fair enough but I would say farming has a high risk of injury as shown by percentage of farmers hurt / killed to number in profession. As you know 1 death is low but if there's only 2 people in profesion it's a high percentage

The biggest problem farm workers have to overcome is lone working. "

True a high suicide rate I believe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a electrician,I would never do somthing to put myself and others in danger.

Its funny, people who do jobs that have real objective dangers spend their lives doing everything in their power to remove and reduce subjective dangers. While on the other hand those who work in objectively safe environments seem to spend their lives ignoring the risks they and others take in order to save a few minutes or quid!

The perfect example being farming, which according to an earlier poster the second most dangerous job in the UK... Now maybe someone can tell me what the objective dangers are in farming (and getting dragged into a piece of running machinery while trying to clear a blockage does not count as if the machine had been turned off and isolated it could not have happened)?

Really without geting into a argument can I suggest you research it a bit before you come out with some of your statements

Think what his trying to express is ,the lower risk of injury the bigger risk you'll take (cutting corners).

Fair enough but I would say farming has a high risk of injury as shown by percentage of farmers hurt / killed to number in profession. As you know 1 death is low but if there's only 2 people in profesion it's a high percentage

The biggest problem farm workers have to overcome is lone working. "

yer, like the single men on here lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"suppose its guys like the OP that have been suppressing the economy with their deliberate targetting of local SME's..?

No but its guys like the OP that enable "call me (were all in it together) Dave" and his cronies to get away with systematically destroying this country in the name of profit. "

FFS wind your neck in and take a breather

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and stick some cloths on while your at it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

clothes even

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in

Squadron lol i think this poor braind dead disrespectful windup merchant is getting the raf and army a tad mixed up .

9 Squadron (9 Independant Parachute Sqn, Royal Engineers) is an Army unit..

"

Signals units are made up of squadrons too

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in

Squadron lol i think this poor braind dead disrespectful windup merchant is getting the raf and army a tad mixed up .

9 Squadron (9 Independant Parachute Sqn, Royal Engineers) is an Army unit..

Signals units are made up of squadrons too "

yep, refferred to them above..

and tankies as i recall..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After spending 9yrs in 3para i can relate to risking life and limb at work. But 3 got all the cushy jobs !!!

you what?you tell that to 5 of my freinds that never made it back.. Surely 1 and 2 do all the work and for the real hard stuff its get 9 squadron in

Squadron lol i think this poor braind dead disrespectful windup merchant is getting the raf and army a tad mixed up .

9 Squadron (9 Independant Parachute Sqn, Royal Engineers) is an Army unit..

Signals units are made up of squadrons too "

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