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Segregation in our Universities

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I feel this is the thin end of a wedge.

It has come to light that some "guest" lecturers are asking for male / female segregation or they will not conduct their lectures. The example in the media is Muslim speakers who refuse to talk unless the class is segregated.

What a backward step for equality.

What next? Gays on the back row

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I would choose not to attend a segregated lecture and I feel that as this isn't a country where legislated segregation takes place that visiting lecturers have a clear choice....lecture to mixed sexes or not at all.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I would choose not to attend a segregated lecture and I feel that as this isn't a country where legislated segregation takes place that visiting lecturers have a clear choice....lecture to mixed sexes or not at all."

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By *ionaScarletTV/TS
over a year ago

Dundee


"I would choose not to attend a segregated lecture and I feel that as this isn't a country where legislated segregation takes place that visiting lecturers have a clear choice....lecture to mixed sexes or not at all."

likewise... and I'm confident that pretty much all the students at my university would say the same.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Well by all accounts this has been happening.

Emily Pankhurst would by turning in her grave

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

so much for the enlightened few!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No protests ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes I read and I was like what! this is 2013 not 1813 after all.

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By *ionaScarletTV/TS
over a year ago

Dundee


"Well by all accounts this has been happening.

Emily Pankhurst would by turning in her grave "

Might enquire as to the source? this kinda has the whiff of daily mail about it....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Lol I heard first on radio 4 yesterday morning.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Might enquire as to the source? this kinda has the whiff of daily mail about it...."

BBC This Morning and News at 1 PM today...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its fact it happens sadly the universities clearly at fault for pandering to a monority if the lecturers ask for segregation they should be told to fuck off as maybe other lecturers that are normal.

We need to be clear in law covering absolutely every aspect of life whether it be university workplace or religion that segregation is illegal and not part of our way of life sadly there will be others that agree with it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sometimes it's best to talk to the students themselves and see what it is that they prefer. If that's how they want to conduct their programmes then just let them do it. There's no harm.

...the girls may want to sit with the girls and the boys with the boys. Equality doesn't come in to it i don't think. It's just seating arrangements.

We're all humans at the end of the day - can't get anymore equal than that. If people can't respect each other through that - then we're fucked! No one person holds the same views and I for one, really don't give a dogs bollocks.

...i hold respect for whatever belief or values a person may hold. And if that's how they like things done. Then, so be it.

Isn't the end of the world - although we got another storm coming!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would quite like to read up on this, then again

universities are changing, with funding policies

as well, see if it this affects my studying situtaion

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Sometimes it's best to talk to the students themselves and see what it is that they prefer. If that's how they want to conduct their programmes then just let them do it. There's no harm.

...the girls may want to sit with the girls and the boys with the boys. Equality doesn't come in to it i don't think. It's just seating arrangements.

We're all humans at the end of the day - can't get anymore equal than that. If people can't respect each other through that - then we're fucked! No one person holds the same views and I for one, really don't give a dogs bollocks.

...i hold respect for whatever belief or values a person may hold. And if that's how they like things done. Then, so be it.

Isn't the end of the world - although we got another storm coming!!

"

If boys wanted to sit with boys etc it would sort itself out naturally. This is lecturers refusing to speak unless they are segregated, in my opinion that is favouring one persons preference over and above the preference of the many and that isn't right.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Sometimes it's best to talk to the students themselves and see what it is that they prefer. If that's how they want to conduct their programmes then just let them do it. There's no harm.

...the girls may want to sit with the girls and the boys with the boys. Equality doesn't come in to it i don't think. It's just seating arrangements.

We're all humans at the end of the day - can't get anymore equal than that. If people can't respect each other through that - then we're fucked! No one person holds the same views and I for one, really don't give a dogs bollocks.

...i hold respect for whatever belief or values a person may hold. And if that's how they like things done. Then, so be it.

Isn't the end of the world - although we got another storm coming!!

"
As I understand it it is not the students that want segregation it is a recommendation by Universities UK. I also hear that they have now withdrawn their recommendation after Mr Cameron said it was wrong...

I do not agree with Mr Cameron often but for once I am in full agreement with him!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sometimes it's best to talk to the students themselves and see what it is that they prefer. If that's how they want to conduct their programmes then just let them do it. There's no harm.

...the girls may want to sit with the girls and the boys with the boys. Equality doesn't come in to it i don't think. It's just seating arrangements.

We're all humans at the end of the day - can't get anymore equal than that. If people can't respect each other through that - then we're fucked! No one person holds the same views and I for one, really don't give a dogs bollocks.

...i hold respect for whatever belief or values a person may hold. And if that's how they like things done. Then, so be it.

Isn't the end of the world - although we got another storm coming!!

As I understand it it is not the students that want segregation it is a recommendation by Universities UK. I also hear that they have now withdrawn their recommendation after Mr Cameron said it was wrong...

I do not agree with Mr Cameron often but for once I am in full agreement with him! "

I don't think it was Universities UK makIng the reccomendation, but they certainly were backing up the speakers asking for this to start with.

Yes very happy to hear that many people like Cameron are vehemently decrying this situation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I feel this is the thin end of a wedge.

It has come to light that some "guest" lecturers are asking for male / female segregation or they will not conduct their lectures. The example in the media is Muslim speakers who refuse to talk unless the class is segregated.

What a backward step for equality.

What next? Gays on the back row "

Of course.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Well by all accounts this has been happening.

Emily Pankhurst would by turning in her grave

Might enquire as to the source? this kinda has the whiff of daily mail about it...."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-25365658

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By *atasha_DavidCouple
over a year ago

Slough

So in fact this is one of a number of hypothetical case studies examined by experts who advised that in order to not be seen as curtailing free speech discrimination law could be challenged. No specific real life incidence is mentioned.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

It seems there have been 40 such cases.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/26/british-universities-gender-segregation-secular

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would go and purposely sit in the area for the opposite sex and encourage others to do the same .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

But for some reason the ladies in these lectures have moved

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My deity! Women in universities, whatever next?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"

My deity! Women in universities, whatever next?"

its ok, they're only there to make them selves more marriageble.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would go and purposely sit in the area for the opposite sex and encourage others to do the same . "

Me too! Tbh it's a disgrace the university endorsed this. It's about time we had another revolution - and I'll be at the front

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"I would go and purposely sit in the area for the opposite sex and encourage others to do the same .

Me too! Tbh it's a disgrace the university endorsed this. It's about time we had another revolution - and I'll be at the front "

We are in the middle of a revolution...

A fundamentalist Christian and Islamic revolution and political correctness will march us back a 1000 years to the dark ages...

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