FabSwingers.com forum: suing the NHS

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

What are peoples opinion on this?

just seen an advert aimed at doing just this and it kind of got me wondering

Doctors and Nurses are only human, mistakes can be made, I think the vast majority of mistakes come from the fact the NHS is under funded and a lot of hospital are running on skeleton staff but they work hard and long hours and do the best we can often with no thanks at all

is taking money out of the NHS to line peoples pockets really the way forwards or is this just going to add to the problem and assist to more mistakes being made

is suing the NHS a good ting or just down to greed?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When i had a medical negligance claim i was told and advized to sue the GP not the nhs

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

It depends how serious the allegation is, I'm totally against suing but if for example my child was left brain damaged due to a cock up then I would rethink

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the NHS is for the most part brilliant, people are all too often quick to criticise and seek to line their pockets. For serious negligence there are already measures in place to compensate, having third party firms looking to muscle in I think is abhorent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The right or wrong hardly matters really.

When they pay insurance to cover this happening.

If you dont claim the NHS is no better off,as it has already paid its insurance premium.

Though I am 100% certain the big insurance companies would be over the moon if they never had to pay out.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"When i had a medical negligance claim i was told and advized to sue the GP not the nhs"

unless your private GPs are still part of the NHS

but this could go to private health care too, not only NHS, it is right to sue?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This suing climate is getting ridiculous.

A post-natal woman of my acquaintance needed her wound and stitches examined. No female GP was available, so either she had to wait till next week or get referred to another health centre. Common sense has gone flying out of the window.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"is suing the NHS a good ting or just down to greed?"

What else can it be?

People who do it and involved with encouraging it are scum.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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Would any payout be from insurance rather than the NHS?

I suppose if a lot sued their premium might go up further, so they would lose money that way.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Would any payout be from insurance rather than the NHS?

I suppose if a lot sued their premium might go up further, so they would lose money that way."

im pretty sure that's now it does work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When i had a medical negligance claim i was told and advized to sue the GP not the nhs

unless your private GPs are still part of the NHS

but this could go to private health care too, not only NHS, it is right to sue?"

I decided against it as it involved saying im mentally distraught after having my daughter etc..

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land

I am very anti-suing. The nhs fork out too much for insurance as it is. The country seems obsessed with suing someone & i find it disgraceful.

People actually took on making money from insurance companies as a 'living' which results in everyone paying more in premiums.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was an article a few weeks ago in one of the papers.

The NHS pays £700 insurance premium for every single child born in an NHS facility.

Just in case one goes wrong and they get sued.

Would imagine the same kind of thing goes for every patient, just in case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On most cases I've seen, I think if the NHS gets sued then they should be able to refuse all future free health care

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"Would any payout be from insurance rather than the NHS?

I suppose if a lot sued their premium might go up further, so they would lose money that way.

im pretty sure that's now it does work

I think all this compensation culture is obscene if I am honest, but as Diamond says, I suppose it depends on what it was as to wether I think it is right to sue.

I think some people are just looking for a quick quid.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"There was an article a few weeks ago in one of the papers.

The NHS pays £700 insurance premium for every single child born in an NHS facility.

Just in case one goes wrong and they get sued.

Would imagine the same kind of thing goes for every patient, just in case."

Wow, thats a huge amount.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We sued the hospital that misdiagnosed Dad's cancer. He probably would have still died but there is a chance we would have had longer with him than 29 days. We got a nominal amount. I have no problems in what we did, it was because he had suffered in the way he had.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

personally, unless it meant some form of life long complication, or it was in detriment to my immediate chances of providing for me and mine, ie it stopped me going to work, then i would probably put it down to one of those things.

with me an apology goes a long way.

if they investigate properly, admit their mistake and lessons are learned, then i dont see the reason to make money out of the system.

but some do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I could have done because of a prenatal problem. But decided not to because at the end of the day they did a very good job of saving mine and my babys life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only if the problem created by the NHS would leave the person out of pocket eg unable to work, needs carers that kind of thing. I could never get my head around compensation for someone's death though. It's not like bunging people a few million quid is going to replace the person you lost.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well those that do sue create a need for insurance. Only one person wins in insurance - it's the person in the sharp suit with the flash car that sells it.

Personally I'd rather tax go to reward nurses and support their training and working conditions so they can do the best job possible. That doesn't happen because our culture is all about how much can we get out of a situation rather than what can we put in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is the article I mentioned

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/08/nhs-insurance-births-maternity-services-babies

Its a reputable link so should be allowed.

NHS cost for insurance is around £482m annually.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"This is the article I mentioned

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/08/nhs-insurance-births-maternity-services-babies

Its a reputable link so should be allowed.

NHS cost for insurance is around £482m annually."

this is my point, if people accepted doctors are only human and mistakes are made there would be no need for insurance and that £482m could go back into the NHS for pay for more nurses and maybe less mistakes would be made?

just a thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On most cases I've seen, I think if the NHS gets sued then they should be able to refuse all future free health care"

The NHS isn't free - it's paid for by NI contributions, no different to paying a monthly amount for private healthcare.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just a thought"

I agree with you 100%, but do you for one minute think those that sell insurance do.

Blame the government for actively encouraging ambulance chasing.

They even have posters in A&E advertising claiming for negligence.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

My daughter had a hysterectomy is may, we have known pretty much all her life she had problems with her ovary, when she was only 10 it was suggested that she had her left ovary and tube removed but the doctors couldn't decide between them if they wanted to do it at such a young age and the surgeon who was booked refused so it was never done, over the years her problems got worse, she's spent most of her life in and out of hospital still no one was willing to operate, until she was 18 but it was to late them by the time they realised it was operate or she would die the infection had spread that bad they had to remove the lot so at only 18 years old he had a full hysterectomy, if they had just removed the ovary and tube when she was 10 it would have saved all the pain and she would now have a womb and at least one working ovary

she has been told to put a claim in but she hasn't because she says what good will it do, you cant have a womb transplant and you cant buy a baby so how would it benefit her condition?

I kind of agree with this, although I would love to change things for her I cant and nor can anyone else or any amount of money so why bother?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some times people make mistakes,it happens in all walks of life.

Unfortunately we now have an entire nation that thinks it free money.

Claim companies sell your information and details.

I still get calls for a crash that happened 4 years ago.

Blame those in charge that make a fortune out of the business of claims.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i personally don't agree with ambulance chasers and do not have much time for them on the whole.

from personal experience if negligence is proven the nhs will pay adequate compensation including any ongoing costs that may arise in the future without the need for solicitors.

by suing the nhs for the actions that were taken to save your life for example breaking ribs whilst performing compressions on their chest to me is wrong.

at the end of the day your suing yourself as its public funds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well Tony B.Liar was a lawyer & so was his hideous wife Cherie. It makes no surprise that he turned Britain into a Lawyers paradise! Things can only get better!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well Tony B.Liar was a lawyer & so was his hideous wife Cherie. It makes no surprise that he turned Britain into a Lawyers paradise! Things can only get better!

must have been Thatcher you mean?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *eforfuncplCouple
over a year ago

Morecambe

Were getting more like America every year ! Frightening x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What tickles me but also pisses me off is i've known people who have sued the NHS but then go on to use their services in the future!

Surely if things were that bad that you had to sue them, then common sence would say not to use the service again!

Or is that just my logic???

Billy

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By *eforfuncplCouple
over a year ago

Morecambe

Should be made to go private x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What tickles me but also pisses me off is i've known people who have sued the NHS but then go on to use their services in the future!

Surely if things were that bad that you had to sue them, then common sence would say not to use the service again!

Or is that just my logic???

Billy"

Who else are you going to call when you have a heart attack.

Private medical will most certainly not come rushing out with all the required kit.

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By *ebsCoupleCouple
over a year ago

Orpington/london

Nurses/ doctors/hospitals have insurances against being sued like we all do (check your home insurance policy)

Some doctors only learn by their mistakes if they're sued.

These mistakes cost the nhs millions in putting thing right so the more careful they are the better. If doctor a makes less mistakes than doctor b then doctor b needs a kick up the backside and sometimes the only way they'll listen to you is through a lawyer.

Before anyone has a go im a nurse and yes I've been at the end of an arrogant self important doctor that cost the trust £100,000 extra in my treatment coz "it was a busy shift and mistakes happen" bull can can hand on heart say busy shifts make the nurses i work with extra careful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What tickles me but also pisses me off is i've known people who have sued the NHS but then go on to use their services in the future!

Surely if things were that bad that you had to sue them, then common sence would say not to use the service again!

Or is that just my logic???

Billy

Who else are you going to call when you have a heart attack.

Private medical will most certainly not come rushing out with all the required kit."

My point exactly! but like i said in my original post i've known people who sued the NHS and took money out of the coffers wether it be by insurance premium increase or otherwise! so like you say the same people expect an emergency NHS ambulance fully equiped with all thats needed to see to them when they've had a heart attack!

I'm not knocking the NHS in any way far from it! My point is why sue someone who later on you may need to save your life????

Billy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From my experience of the NHS, its bloody brilliant.

They may not be perfect,but they do a service like no other country in the world.

I can only thank them for jump starting me, and saving our grand daughters life last year.

Would I sue them ???

Depends on what has happened and why ????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a good thing ..... I'm looking into it at the moment . They fucked up with me and if at all possible will take what I can from them with a clear conscience. No excuse for negligence when human life is involved

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its a good thing ..... I'm looking into it at the moment . They fucked up with me and if at all possible will take what I can from them with a clear conscience. No excuse for negligence when human life is involved"

Sorry to hear they f***ed up with you but nobodys perfect at the end of the day and we'd all certaintly be alot worse of if we didn't have the NHS don't you think?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nurses/ doctors/hospitals have insurances against being sued like we all do (check your home insurance policy)

Some doctors only learn by their mistakes if they're sued.

What kind of nurse?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sometimes the doctors know exactly what they are doing wrong and so do the nhs. 23years ago Leicester royal infirmary employed a gp as a paediatric consultant! This doctor diagnosed and treated kids with migraines as epilepsy! Why should these adults not sue now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well Tony B.Liar was a lawyer & so was his hideous wife Cherie. It makes no surprise that he turned Britain into a Lawyers paradise! Things can only get better!

must have been Thatcher you mean?

No I do NOT mean Thatcher, I mean the evil Socialist wanker B.Liar of the Labour party.

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