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"He maybe busy or aboard etc..." Maybe. Five weeks is a heck of a long time, and he always told me when he was going abroad. | |||
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"Someone from here who I've been writing with for many months, and have met once, has gone AWOL. He travels a lot for work (US etc). He hasn't been online here for 5 weeks now, and his Skype account, which he uses for work as well, has been quiet, too. He's single. I try not to worry, but cannot help worrying. After our meet, we kept writing very frequently, and he was going to come again, very soon. And now suddenly total radio silence. No phone number. I endorse the NSA principle, and am not in love. But we are friends, discussed lots of personal topics. Any suggestions? " Move on....it happens | |||
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"I know there's fuck all I can do. It's just that over the years several online friends have disappeared into the sunset. Two of them had died. One of them I had visited the week before he died, so his friends knew to notify me. The other I found out by accident. The others - I will keep guessing. This man - if he had met somebody he would have told me." Yet you didn't have a phone number? I'm guessing wife found out.... | |||
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"Someone from here who I've been writing with for many months, and have met once, has gone AWOL. He travels a lot for work (US etc). He hasn't been online here for 5 weeks now, and his Skype account, which he uses for work as well, has been quiet, too. He's single. I try not to worry, but cannot help worrying. After our meet, we kept writing very frequently, and he was going to come again, very soon. And now suddenly total radio silence. No phone number. I endorse the NSA principle, and am not in love. But we are friends, discussed lots of personal topics. Any suggestions? " Do you know his full real name, if not not a lot you can do except wait | |||
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"I know there's fuck all I can do. It's just that over the years several online friends have disappeared into the sunset. Two of them had died. One of them I had visited the week before he died, so his friends knew to notify me. The other I found out by accident. The others - I will keep guessing. This man - if he had met somebody he would have told me." Its nice to know that despite it being NSA you still have a heart and aren't cold. xx | |||
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"I know there's fuck all I can do. It's just that over the years several online friends have disappeared into the sunset. Two of them had died. One of them I had visited the week before he died, so his friends knew to notify me. The other I found out by accident. The others - I will keep guessing. This man - if he had met somebody he would have told me. Yet you didn't have a phone number? I'm guessing wife found out...." I have to say scarlet has a point...in regards to the phone number not being given... | |||
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"I know there's fuck all I can do. It's just that over the years several online friends have disappeared into the sunset. Two of them had died. One of them I had visited the week before he died, so his friends knew to notify me. The other I found out by accident. The others - I will keep guessing. This man - if he had met somebody he would have told me. Yet you didn't have a phone number? I'm guessing wife found out.... I have to say scarlet has a point...in regards to the phone number not being given..." No! No! No! A dishonest man on a swinging site!! Simply not possible! Maybe the police could help if you have real concern? | |||
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"Its nice to know that despite it being NSA you still have a heart and aren't cold. xx" I care about each of my regular friends to some degree; some more than others. | |||
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"He is divorced. I don't know his surname. It was never necessary to know that. Nor did I insist on having his phone number, as we frequently chatted via Skype. His account here is still alive, and not used for as many weeks as I haven't heard from him. There is one veri, who I could contact, but I cannot possibly do that. That would be entirely unethical. " Find someone else to fuck is my suggestion!......or have a wank! | |||
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"Its nice to know that despite it being NSA you still have a heart and aren't cold. xx I care about each of my regular friends to some degree; some more than others. " Thats the way I feel about my regular friends, | |||
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"He is divorced. I don't know his surname. It was never necessary to know that. Nor did I insist on having his phone number, as we frequently chatted via Skype. His account here is still alive, and not used for as many weeks as I haven't heard from him. There is one veri, who I could contact, but I cannot possibly do that. That would be entirely unethical. Find someone else to fuck is my suggestion!......or have a wank!" I am deeply touched by your empathy. | |||
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"Someone from here who I've been writing with for many months, and have met once, has gone AWOL. He travels a lot for work (US etc). He hasn't been online here for 5 weeks now, and his Skype account, which he uses for work as well, has been quiet, too. He's single. I try not to worry, but cannot help worrying. After our meet, we kept writing very frequently, and he was going to come again, very soon. And now suddenly total radio silence. No phone number. I endorse the NSA principle, and am not in love. But we are friends, discussed lots of personal topics. Any suggestions? Move on....it happens" | |||
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"if a guy didnt give me any means to contact him without me responding to his contact ..then i would conclude that he didnt want me contacting him" | |||
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"Maybe they just took a break without having to start a "look at me I'm leaving" thread?" As I said, he'd have told me. He tells me when he goes abroad for work. | |||
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"He is divorced. I don't know his surname. It was never necessary to know that. Nor did I insist on having his phone number, as we frequently chatted via Skype. His account here is still alive, and not used for as many weeks as I haven't heard from him. There is one veri, who I could contact, but I cannot possibly do that. That would be entirely unethical. Find someone else to fuck is my suggestion!......or have a wank! I am deeply touched by your empathy." If it's any help I do feel VERY sorry for you. | |||
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"Seriously though this is not a dating site, yes you make friendships but they aren't the be all and end all. If someone disappears they don't have to announce it to everyone. You may have felt you were special but to me that's what dating is about. You claim to know what nsa is but you are not displaying that here. Sorry if that sounds harsh but that's pretty much how it seems to me." If feelings of friendship develop off meets, then lots of folk on this site will sin against the NSA ethos. | |||
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"Its nice to know that despite it being NSA you still have a heart and aren't cold. xx I care about each of my regular friends to some degree; some more than others. " Hope you find him. x Clearly other people are mindless heartless robots. | |||
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"Seriously though this is not a dating site, yes you make friendships but they aren't the be all and end all. If someone disappears they don't have to announce it to everyone. You may have felt you were special but to me that's what dating is about. You claim to know what nsa is but you are not displaying that here. Sorry if that sounds harsh but that's pretty much how it seems to me. If feelings of friendship develop off meets, then lots of folk on this site will sin against the NSA ethos." Nsa is exactly that.....no strings attached......none.....nothing....as soon as feelings involved that is no longer nsa. Simple as that. | |||
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"Maybe they just took a break without having to start a "look at me I'm leaving" thread? As I said, he'd have told me. He tells me when he goes abroad for work." With respect, this is the internet, people can tell you what you want to hear when you want to hear it. If a man we spoke to disappeared from the radar we would take it he doesn't want to speak again. | |||
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"Maybe they just took a break without having to start a "look at me I'm leaving" thread? As I said, he'd have told me. He tells me when he goes abroad for work." would he? If he was that into you knowing every bit of his life you would have known his phone number and address too. . . . . I have seen it happen, people who I have considered friends, up and go. It happens. You move onto the next. | |||
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"Maybe they just took a break without having to start a "look at me I'm leaving" thread? As I said, he'd have told me. He tells me when he goes abroad for work. would he? If he was that into you knowing every bit of his life you would have known his phone number and address too. . . . . I have seen it happen, people who I have considered friends, up and go. It happens. You move onto the next. " | |||
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"Seriously though this is not a dating site, yes you make friendships but they aren't the be all and end all. If someone disappears they don't have to announce it to everyone. You may have felt you were special but to me that's what dating is about. You claim to know what nsa is but you are not displaying that here. Sorry if that sounds harsh but that's pretty much how it seems to me. If feelings of friendship develop off meets, then lots of folk on this site will sin against the NSA ethos. Nsa is exactly that.....no strings attached......none.....nothing....as soon as feelings involved that is no longer nsa. Simple as that." In that case - mea culpa. Maxima. I value friendship, no matter where I find it. | |||
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"Seriously though this is not a dating site, yes you make friendships but they aren't the be all and end all. If someone disappears they don't have to announce it to everyone. You may have felt you were special but to me that's what dating is about. You claim to know what nsa is but you are not displaying that here. Sorry if that sounds harsh but that's pretty much how it seems to me. If feelings of friendship develop off meets, then lots of folk on this site will sin against the NSA ethos. Nsa is exactly that.....no strings attached......none.....nothing....as soon as feelings involved that is no longer nsa. Simple as that. In that case - mea culpa. Maxima. I value friendship, no matter where I find it." Then its not nsa | |||
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"Swingers. Friendly? Caring? Hmmmmmmmmm Thank fuck some people are human. " | |||
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"Seriously though this is not a dating site, yes you make friendships but they aren't the be all and end all. If someone disappears they don't have to announce it to everyone. You may have felt you were special but to me that's what dating is about. You claim to know what nsa is but you are not displaying that here. Sorry if that sounds harsh but that's pretty much how it seems to me. If feelings of friendship develop off meets, then lots of folk on this site will sin against the NSA ethos. Nsa is exactly that.....no strings attached......none.....nothing....as soon as feelings involved that is no longer nsa. Simple as that. In that case - mea culpa. Maxima. I value friendship, no matter where I find it. Then its not nsa" Your power of deduction is breathtaking. I already said , "Mea culpa". | |||
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"Swingers. Friendly? Caring? Hmmmmmmmmm Thank fuck some people are human. " Yes some of us are human enough to know not to believe all everyone tells us. | |||
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"Swingers. Friendly? Caring? Hmmmmmmmmm Thank fuck some people are human. " Some of us are realistic, sometimes people like to be avoided. | |||
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"Swingers. Friendly? Caring? Hmmmmmmmmm Thank fuck some people are human. Some of us are realistic, sometimes people like to be avoided. " | |||
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"To the o p some of this may seem uncaring etc but its about keeping it real and in perspective. I have some real good friends on here who i meet regular but if i dont hear from them for a while i asume real life events going on for them " Fair point and I do agree with that. But I just think if someone disappeared off the face of the earth it would be really sad if no-one gave a shit! | |||
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"Swingers. Friendly? Caring? Hmmmmmmmmm Thank fuck some people are human. Some of us are realistic, sometimes people like to be avoided. " Exactly this. I have guys that I chat to every day and have met numerous times.....not just once, but I still understand that they have lives even that they maybe might not want to share with me. Thats fine. I don't really want to know. All I know us that we can chat and have a laugh and have fantastic sex when we meet and then go back to our lives. To me that is nsa. | |||
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"He is divorced. I don't know his surname. It was never necessary to know that. Nor did I insist on having his phone number, as we frequently chatted via Skype. His account here is still alive, and not used for as many weeks as I haven't heard from him. There is one veri, who I could contact, but I cannot possibly do that. That would be entirely unethical. " How are you so sure he is divorced? I was seeing someone for three months before o found out he wasn't single. Sorry but I'm with the others and I think his wife/partner has found out. | |||
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" I have some real good friends on here who i meet regular but if i dont hear from them for a while i asume real life events going on for them Fair point and I do agree with that. But I just think if someone disappeared off the face of the earth it would be really sad if no-one gave a shit!" unless he is some kind of extreme hermit ..why do you reckon neighbours, guys down the pub, family,friends, wirk colleagues etc wouldnt intervene ...you reckon a fuck buddy off a swingers site would be their lifeline ? | |||
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"I don't know maybe he has met someone...who knows. I would not worry I'm sure he is fine and if he wants to contact he will xx" ^^^^^This! | |||
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"To the o p some of this may seem uncaring etc but its about keeping it real and in perspective. I have some real good friends on here who i meet regular but if i dont hear from them for a while i asume real life events going on for them Fair point and I do agree with that. But I just think if someone disappeared off the face of the earth it would be really sad if no-one gave a shit!" I'd put people on a swingers site to the bottom if the pile of people I thought would be concerned if I disappeared. I'd like to think real life people would notice way before! | |||
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"Maybe they just took a break without having to start a "look at me I'm leaving" thread?" I did think this. | |||
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"My God some of you are SO cynical on here! The OP is concerned about someone she's not heard from in weeks, what's wrong with that? You can still show concern for someone no matter what the nature of this site is! " But that is the point...it is the nature of the site.... | |||
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"My God some of you are SO cynical on here! The OP is concerned about someone she's not heard from in weeks, what's wrong with that? You can still show concern for someone no matter what the nature of this site is! " but the guy gave her no means of contacting him after a seemingly long time of contact which suggests they were not actually friends but aquaintences...and he has chosen to move on | |||
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"My God some of you are SO cynical on here! The OP is concerned about someone she's not heard from in weeks, what's wrong with that? You can still show concern for someone no matter what the nature of this site is! but the guy gave her no means of contacting him after a seemingly long time of contact which suggests they were not actually friends but aquaintences...and he has chosen to move on" That's as may be but what is so wrong with showing concern? I'm not disputing the fact that she has no way of contacting him and will have to wait till or if he appears again. The point I'm making is that the poor woman has been criticized for showing concern. Surely there's nothing wrong with that? | |||
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"Maybe they just took a break without having to start a "look at me I'm leaving" thread? As I said, he'd have told me. He tells me when he goes abroad for work. With respect, this is the internet, people can tell you what you want to hear when you want to hear it. If a man we spoke to disappeared from the radar we would take it he doesn't want to speak again." | |||
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"My God some of you are SO cynical on here! The OP is concerned about someone she's not heard from in weeks, what's wrong with that? You can still show concern for someone no matter what the nature of this site is! but the guy gave her no means of contacting him after a seemingly long time of contact which suggests they were not actually friends but aquaintences...and he has chosen to move on That's as may be but what is so wrong with showing concern? I'm not disputing the fact that she has no way of contacting him and will have to wait till or if he appears again. The point I'm making is that the poor woman has been criticized for showing concern. Surely there's nothing wrong with that? " No there's nothing wrong with it, just wasted effort! | |||
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"My God some of you are SO cynical on here! The OP is concerned about someone she's not heard from in weeks, what's wrong with that? You can still show concern for someone no matter what the nature of this site is! " Cynical isn't the right word I don't think....I think more realistic, the man obviously doesn't want to be in touch. I would worry if I was a single male meeting single women on here, if this is anything to go by men are being watched even when possibly just getting on with their life. | |||
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"My God some of you are SO cynical on here! The OP is concerned about someone she's not heard from in weeks, what's wrong with that? You can still show concern for someone no matter what the nature of this site is! but the guy gave her no means of contacting him after a seemingly long time of contact which suggests they were not actually friends but aquaintences...and he has chosen to move on" this! I know how to contact my 'friend's'. I have good friends I have met off here. I have their numbers, I know where they live. However, I also go weeks without feeling the need to contact them or them to contact me. One of my best mates disappeared for 7 months because he changed his number and I got into a relationship, so he assumed I wouldn't want to be contacted by him. I do feel if he regarded you in the same regard as you regard him, you would have had other ways of being able to contact him. He is busy, he has moved on, he maybe thought you were being clingy? Who knows. The point is, nothing you can do. So just move on. If he contacts you, great. If not, you just got to move on. | |||
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"My God some of you are SO cynical on here! The OP is concerned about someone she's not heard from in weeks, what's wrong with that? You can still show concern for someone no matter what the nature of this site is! but the guy gave her no means of contacting him after a seemingly long time of contact which suggests they were not actually friends but aquaintences...and he has chosen to move on That's as may be but what is so wrong with showing concern? " Nothing if thats what she wants to do....but she asked people for suggestions, and many gave the one of " do nothing" | |||
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"I'd put people on a swingers site to the bottom if the pile of people I thought would be concerned if I disappeared. I'd like to think real life people would notice way before!" People on a swingers site ARE real life people. You just meet them on a different premise. The fact that I enjoy sex with my friends here in stead of singing in a church choir* doesn't make our contact less. Just different. * although one doesn't exclude the other | |||
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"I'd put people on a swingers site to the bottom if the pile of people I thought would be concerned if I disappeared. I'd like to think real life people would notice way before! People on a swingers site ARE real life people. You just meet them on a different premise. The fact that I enjoy sex with my friends here in stead of singing in a church choir* doesn't make our contact less. Just different. * although one doesn't exclude the other " | |||
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"I'd put people on a swingers site to the bottom if the pile of people I thought would be concerned if I disappeared. I'd like to think real life people would notice way before! People on a swingers site ARE real life people. You just meet them on a different premise. The fact that I enjoy sex with my friends here in stead of singing in a church choir* doesn't make our contact less. Just different. * although one doesn't exclude the other " bless your heart did you meet him very many times? | |||
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"I'd put people on a swingers site to the bottom if the pile of people I thought would be concerned if I disappeared. I'd like to think real life people would notice way before! People on a swingers site ARE real life people. You just meet them on a different premise. The fact that I enjoy sex with my friends here in stead of singing in a church choir* doesn't make our contact less. Just different. * although one doesn't exclude the other " No the people I meet on here are not my real life. Yes I like them. Yes we have fun, but they are nothing to do with my real life. Some I may count as friends but only those I've met many times....not once. | |||
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"No the people I meet on here are not my real life. Yes I like them. Yes we have fun, but they are nothing to do with my real life. Some I may count as friends but only those I've met many times....not once." I respect your standards, but do not share them. Do not judge mine or regard them as less valid. I do not have to justify my perception of friendship to you. | |||
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"No the people I meet on here are not my real life. Yes I like them. Yes we have fun, but they are nothing to do with my real life. Some I may count as friends but only those I've met many times....not once. I respect your standards, but do not share them. Do not judge mine or regard them as less valid. I do not have to justify my perception of friendship to you." Just saying I know the numbers of those I class friends thats all | |||
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"No the people I meet on here are not my real life. Yes I like them. Yes we have fun, but they are nothing to do with my real life. Some I may count as friends but only those I've met many times....not once. I respect your standards, but do not share them. Do not judge mine or regard them as less valid. I do not have to justify my perception of friendship to you." I know exactly what you mean and I would be the same, if I get to know people over a period of months talking online and like them I would be concerned too - you are actually the one having a normal human response here!! God I hope my heart never becomes so hardened that I cease to care! Sadly there is nothing really you can or should do - in this case you have to leave that to others and hope he lets you know one day. I would try to assume some interesting and absorbing new departure in his life, and assume he just does not realise you might be concerned. And as for the suggestion that people we meet on here are not real life - I think it's ludicrous!! It doesn't GET much more real than having sex with someone, there's no avoiding it - this IS cold, hard reality!! | |||
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"Some of you are missing the point and I think are jumping to conclusions that those of us that don't get involved with everyone we meet are heartless. IF the OP was talking about a regular FB then I think she would have cause for concern, and yes I'd be worried or think it odd, but this is someone who hadn't given his phone number and she's met him once. So in that situation I would take it at face value and assume for whatever reason he doesn't want to have any more contact, and I'd move on. There is a big difference." If meeting once, with hardly any contact before that and no further contact after - yes, of course. And there are more ingredients that I wrote upthread that can't make me shake off this feel of unease. | |||
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"Some of you are missing the point and I think are jumping to conclusions that those of us that don't get involved with everyone we meet are heartless. IF the OP was talking about a regular FB then I think she would have cause for concern, and yes I'd be worried or think it odd, but this is someone who hadn't given his phone number and she's met him once. So in that situation I would take it at face value and assume for whatever reason he doesn't want to have any more contact, and I'd move on. There is a big difference." Exactly my point of view too. I had a regular playmate who was due to go into hospital for some tests. At that point we'd been seeing each other for years, speaking every day. I didn't hear from him, phoned, went to voice mail, emailed went unanswered. Two weeks later he got in touch. He'd had a cancer scare and gone away for a break. When I had mine he was one of the first people I told. The reality is I thought we were friends and all that entailed, he didn't think it necessary to tell me: I wasn't important. Fact is people don't always see us the same way we see them and going ott after a brief association is a little worrying I think. | |||
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"Some of you are missing the point and I think are jumping to conclusions that those of us that don't get involved with everyone we meet are heartless. IF the OP was talking about a regular FB then I think she would have cause for concern, and yes I'd be worried or think it odd, but this is someone who hadn't given his phone number and she's met him once. So in that situation I would take it at face value and assume for whatever reason he doesn't want to have any more contact, and I'd move on. There is a big difference. Exactly my point of view too. I had a regular playmate who was due to go into hospital for some tests. At that point we'd been seeing each other for years, speaking every day. I didn't hear from him, phoned, went to voice mail, emailed went unanswered. Two weeks later he got in touch. He'd had a cancer scare and gone away for a break. When I had mine he was one of the first people I told. The reality is I thought we were friends and all that entailed, he didn't think it necessary to tell me: I wasn't important. Fact is people don't always see us the same way we see them and going ott after a brief association is a little worrying I think. " But the poster is not going OTT - she is merely expressing concern for someone she has been talking to for months!! | |||
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"The suggestion that people who understand, enjoy and accept true nsa are heartless or cold leaves me questioning the emotional maturity of some. Caring is not exclusive to deep friendships. I care about everyone I've ever had nsa contact with and wish them well, but I don't need to hear from any of them regularly, rarely or ever again! I don't have any strings on them and I don't particularly want them to have any strings on me......or it wouldn't be nsa. 'Cold or heartless' can often be the mantra of the needy. Nsa for me is neither. " But that's not what the OP is talking about - she is not talking about 'someone I fucked once' she is talking about someone she became a friend with over a period of months, different kettle of fish entirely, whether she met them or not. I have a guy I met on a site I've been talking to on an off for 10 months now. We've spoken on the phone once, never quite managed to meet because of distance, but I am sure we will one day, and I am sure it will be hot as hell when we do. Yes, we talk about sex a lot of the time. But we also talk about the wildlife we rescue, he shares pic with me of things he sees on his long cycle rides etc, or messages me to relieve the boredom on a long train ride when he goes away for business. There are no strings imposed, but if either hasn't heard from the other in a week or so there is genuine concern, one of us writes saying 'Hey, are you OK??'. If I didn't hear back damn straight I'd have concern for the guy!! This is normal caring and very adult human behaviour when FRIENDSHIP occurs! I can and do have a real fun evening with someone I have no need to hear from or contact ever again, but to be honest, that is a far less mature behaviour in my opinion. | |||
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" But that's not what the OP is talking about - she is not talking about 'someone I fucked once' she is talking about someone she became a friend with over a period of months, different kettle of fish entirely, whether she met them or not. I have a guy I met on a site I've been talking to on an off for 10 months now. We've spoken on the phone once, never quite managed to meet because of distance, but I am sure we will one day, and I am sure it will be hot as hell when we do. Yes, we talk about sex a lot of the time. But we also talk about the wildlife we rescue, he shares pic with me of things he sees on his long cycle rides etc, or messages me to relieve the boredom on a long train ride when he goes away for business. There are no strings imposed, but if either hasn't heard from the other in a week or so there is genuine concern, one of us writes saying 'Hey, are you OK??'. If I didn't hear back damn straight I'd have concern for the guy!! This is normal caring and very adult human behaviour when FRIENDSHIP occurs! I can and do have a real fun evening with someone I have no need to hear from or contact ever again, but to be honest, that is a far less mature behaviour in my opinion." Your post appears to infere that people who meet nsa only ever converse about sex, that is clearly not the case and certainly not my experience. Mature friendship isn't measured by some sort of 'contact strategy', true friends don't require a weekly touching of base to affirm the bond they have. I agree that some people 'need' that, but to suggest it's a base requirement of mature friendship is in my opinion wide of the mark. As for the Op, I appreciate her concern and in no way wish to belittle it. But she has asked the forum for advice or it's view. The nature of this site but more importantly the fact that she doesn't even have this chaps phone number.....maybe he is seeing things differently. Doesn't make him cold or heartless if he is though. | |||
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" Your post appears to infere that people who meet nsa only ever converse about sex, that is clearly not the case and certainly not my experience. Mature friendship isn't measured by some sort of 'contact strategy', true friends don't require a weekly touching of base to affirm the bond they have. I agree that some people 'need' that, but to suggest it's a base requirement of mature friendship is in my opinion wide of the mark. As for the Op, I appreciate her concern and in no way wish to belittle it. But she has asked the forum for advice or it's view. The nature of this site but more importantly the fact that she doesn't even have this chaps phone number.....maybe he is seeing things differently. Doesn't make him cold or heartless if he is though. " Ah no, that's not what I was implying at all, I was commenting on some of the views expressed on this site, not the guy in question!! And no, I was not inferring people who meet for nsa only talk about sex either, merely saying that if two people choose to talk online for months I call that a friendship, albeit tenuous. It may be a friendship without obligation, but it is one nontheless, and the less they have actually met for nsa sex in those months, the more about friendship it appears in my opinion. I am not saying friendships necessarily need 'contact strategy' either, we all have great friends we don't talk to from one year to the next. I was saying repeated contact implies friendship, and friendship naturally gives rise to mutual concern if someone appears to be offline. Shit happens. You can care without applying strings. I am saying that in my opinion maturity and wholeness come with more caring about other people, not less. Oh I am aware that nsa requires a lot of people to engage in active self protection - the 'block the bastard' mentality. I am challenging the assumption that that is a more desirable state of affairs than someone who feels concern for someone they connected with over a period of time. | |||
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" The issue is that what we feel about someone is not what they feel about us. " That is possible of course. Or it may be simply a difference in handling the situation too, like the friend who had a cancer scare someone mentioned. I never got to say goodbye to a friend of mine because she didn't want anyone to see her towards the end, she told us all the tumour had shrank........ I once spoke to a young guy who dated a Philipino girl he liked very much. He slept with her on second meeting and was thrilled, but liked her SO much he felt he had to break it off because if it got really serious and they ended up together, he could not bear the thought of having 'children that looked different from me'. He was so ashamed of this he thought it 'kinder' to simply sever all contact for her sake. Altruistic? Selfish? Cowardly? Maybe all three. I thought he should let her know, but there you go, I don't think he did. | |||
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"I don't think it is wrong to care. I care about some I have met more than others. I care about some I have as virtual friends more than others. Concern is natural. The issue is that what we feel about someone is not what they feel about us. Those that are recipients of me caring for them know they will get way too many messages. I don't take offence if they don't respond. I will worry but that is my problem, not theirs. Some even worry about me and that is nice or annoying depending how I feel about them. Keep a warm heart." | |||
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"Thanks, all. Still a bit shaky. But managed a few hours' kip. " Hope you are fully recovered very soon | |||
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"To finish this thread off - my friend has resurfaced. He had a medical emergency and was incommunicado and in a bad place for a while. I am so pleased to have been proved right. Whoever of you still has to live with similar question marks - you have my sympathy and I hope one day you will find out. Lickety - thank you x" Great news. xx | |||
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"I am glad you and your friend are now ok.. maybe he will give you some way of getting in touch now . Does make me wonder how people can be alerted if you single and alone tho.. xx" The truth is that there is no answer to that. If I hadn't been able to alert the emergency services a few weeks ago, I wouldn't be here now. Nobody would have known for days. It's not a new problem. Read the papers. Phone circles only work to a certain extent. | |||
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"Men some even when you think you know them here you don't . Some will say working overseas as don't wish to see you and its easier to say that . Some are married and play the single and some have long term girlfriends some come here to escape normal life ..... and some will lie tell people all things like jackal and hide you never really know them and when you find others who thay have done the same thing too you think how could I have been a mug and trusted this person after knowing them for months and meeting truth is some you will never know." True. But still now I have been able to trust my gut feeling, and rarely have been wrong. But I'm only human, so... | |||
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"Have you heard from him yet? " Yes. He contacted me as soon as he was in the right frame of mind. Of course he feels lousy about me worrying, but somethings cannot be forced. Again - I am happy he's getting well, and reciprocates the feeling of friendship. | |||
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"Men some even when you think you know them here you don't . Some will say working overseas as don't wish to see you and its easier to say that . Some are married and play the single and some have long term girlfriends some come here to escape normal life ..... and some will lie tell people all things like jackal and hide you never really know them and when you find others who thay have done the same thing too you think how could I have been a mug and trusted this person after knowing them for months and meeting truth is some you will never know. True. But still now I have been able to trust my gut feeling, and rarely have been wrong. But I'm only human, so..." I had never been let down with a gut feeling about a person but I was and I felt very hurt .. as trusted this man and let him into my life .And that's what hurt me more . After years reading people well .... I could not him. | |||
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"Men some even when you think you know them here you don't . Some will say working overseas as don't wish to see you and its easier to say that . Some are married and play the single and some have long term girlfriends some come here to escape normal life ..... and some will lie tell people all things like jackal and hide you never really know them and when you find others who thay have done the same thing too you think how could I have been a mug and trusted this person after knowing them for months and meeting truth is some you will never know. True. But still now I have been able to trust my gut feeling, and rarely have been wrong. But I'm only human, so... I had never been let down with a gut feeling about a person but I was and I felt very hurt .. as trusted this man and let him into my life .And that's what hurt me more . After years reading people well .... I could not him." That's indeed the risk you take when letting people in. You become vulnerable, whether you like it or not. Past experiences an only toughen you up so much. | |||
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"Men some even when you think you know them here you don't . Some will say working overseas as don't wish to see you and its easier to say that . Some are married and play the single and some have long term girlfriends some come here to escape normal life ..... and some will lie tell people all things like jackal and hide you never really know them and when you find others who thay have done the same thing too you think how could I have been a mug and trusted this person after knowing them for months and meeting truth is some you will never know. True. But still now I have been able to trust my gut feeling, and rarely have been wrong. But I'm only human, so... I had never been let down with a gut feeling about a person but I was and I felt very hurt .. as trusted this man and let him into my life .And that's what hurt me more . After years reading people well .... I could not him." Don't feel bad, some people just can't be 'read'. They are experts at hiding from reality. xx | |||
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"Men some even when you think you know them here you don't . Some will say working overseas as don't wish to see you and its easier to say that . Some are married and play the single and some have long term girlfriends some come here to escape normal life ..... and some will lie tell people all things like jackal and hide you never really know them and when you find others who thay have done the same thing too you think how could I have been a mug and trusted this person after knowing them for months and meeting truth is some you will never know. True. But still now I have been able to trust my gut feeling, and rarely have been wrong. But I'm only human, so... I had never been let down with a gut feeling about a person but I was and I felt very hurt .. as trusted this man and let him into my life .And that's what hurt me more . After years reading people well .... I could not him. That's indeed the risk you take when letting people in. You become vulnerable, whether you like it or not. Past experiences an only toughen you up so much. " yes you live a lean I did ... BIG TIME . X | |||
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"i can only think of one phrase that sums it up for me and that is get a grip and move on." Yes you do get a grip and see what strange people are out there. And some just get u think today I am going to be ..... who ever just not the boring person I really am. Superman maybe. lol x | |||
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"To finish this thread off - my friend has resurfaced. He had a medical emergency and was incommunicado and in a bad place for a while. I am so pleased to have been proved right. Whoever of you still has to live with similar question marks - you have my sympathy and I hope one day you will find out. Lickety - thank you x" Im pleased it all turned out ok for you and your friend....and he knows you care enough to worry..which is lovely | |||
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"To finish this thread off - my friend has resurfaced. He had a medical emergency and was incommunicado and in a bad place for a while. I am so pleased to have been proved right. Whoever of you still has to live with similar question marks - you have my sympathy and I hope one day you will find out. Lickety - thank you x" call me cynical but that is so "Just broke up with the girl i was seeing". | |||
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"Have you heard from him yet? Yes. He contacted me as soon as he was in the right frame of mind. Of course he feels lousy about me worrying, but somethings cannot be forced. Again - I am happy he's getting well, and reciprocates the feeling of friendship." Who would have thought???.......glad he's ok though | |||
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"To finish this thread off - my friend has resurfaced. He had a medical emergency and was incommunicado and in a bad place for a while. I am so pleased to have been proved right. Whoever of you still has to live with similar question marks - you have my sympathy and I hope one day you will find out. Lickety - thank you x call me cynical but that is so "Just broke up with the girl i was seeing". " It is cynical indeed. Believe what you want. I am happy he's going to be OK. | |||
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"Have you heard from him yet? Yes. He contacted me as soon as he was in the right frame of mind. Of course he feels lousy about me worrying, but somethings cannot be forced. Again - I am happy he's getting well, and reciprocates the feeling of friendship. Who would have thought???.......glad he's ok though" | |||
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"I like being a cynic on the web....and even after the explanation I am still cynical. As long as you are happy with it though thats all that matters." Occam's Razor applies. | |||
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"Swingers. Friendly? Caring? Hmmmmmmmmm Thank fuck some people are human. " | |||
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"I like being a cynic on the web....and even after the explanation I am still cynical. As long as you are happy with it though thats all that matters." | |||
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"I like being a cynic on the web....and even after the explanation I am still cynical. As long as you are happy with it though thats all that matters. Occam's Razor applies. " Will that be better than my Gillette Venus that I use now? | |||
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