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"you want the abdication of the throne an the next in line to pass it up because they didnt make a public speech about Mandelas passing? really? nothing to do with, just maybe, they are grieving for the loss of a close friend, possibly afterall, by the time these muppets in government came to power, mandela was already too ill to go galavanting around and meeting them all as he once did. he always visited the royals when he visited, and they him when there, so a little short sighted jsut because they didnt jump to the beat of the viewing public" | |||
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" more respect from the non believers ! " I'm a non Belieber...... | |||
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"you want the abdication of the throne an the next in line to pass it up because they didnt make a public speech about Mandelas passing? really? nothing to do with, just maybe, they are grieving for the loss of a close friend, possibly afterall, by the time these muppets in government came to power, mandela was already too ill to go galavanting around and meeting them all as he once did. he always visited the royals when he visited, and they him when there, so a little short sighted jsut because they didnt jump to the beat of the viewing public " Haha Not just because they didn't make a tv statement I think they are too far removed from reality anyway My point is more about what exactly they do ! ... Surely to fuck when something as important as the passing of such a great man happens it isn't too much to make a quick public appearance If they can't do that . Well I think it's a joke | |||
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"we we differ then. i actually think it shows a little more decorum of them not to be jumping on the tv as soon as possible and harping on about how great they think he was, while winking into the camera or selling themselves to the populace. Notice even B'liar has been wheeled out for interviews about the man, i mean, which rock has that slimy little shit been hiding under? so no, i say good on them. and they do plenty of public engagements in this country, and around the globe, as well as having to deal with people that love and hate them in equal measure, 24/7." It's not about that at all Any public statement is seen how its delivered If it true what you say and they are grieving such a close friend surely a simple public statement would be applicable If the royals are so respectable and loved then nobody will suggest they are seeking the attention / limelight Again I just think its proof how far removed they are And think its time for drastic changes I'm not a royalist as you probably guess however if we have to have them let's get them into this century .. Might have a chance with wills | |||
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"I think we should be more arsed about the weather than a muppet sat in gold chair. The fact that Charles avoids paying tax through his charity work tells me that there in it for themselves. The two royals that add colour to the mix Harry and Big Phil are the most entertaining. We need to see more of them two and Pippa bum. Royals add to economy in a big way and that's the only reason I don't support the full abdication. " And so they should add to it, they drain enough from it, usually garnished with the latest excuse to get a foothold in the door of foreign economies and/or commodities! But hey...alls fair in love and war, eh? | |||
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"With the passing of nelson Mandela Statesmen . Priministers .presidents and world leaders have all publicly spoke Our queen and future king have had statements read out on their behalf ! WTF are they doing that's so important they can't do a tv statement ? I thought they were supposed to be something this country relies on ? The only person to speak publicly from the royal family is William ! IMO .. The royal family is in need of a good shake up . She should abdicate . Charlie boy should refuse to take the throne and wills should take over ! Maybe then the royal family will gain more respect from the non believers ! " I imagine its because of the past atrocities condoned by the guy in question. | |||
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"With the passing of nelson Mandela Statesmen . Priministers .presidents and world leaders have all publicly spoke Our queen and future king have had statements read out on their behalf ! WTF are they doing that's so important they can't do a tv statement ? I thought they were supposed to be something this country relies on ? The only person to speak publicly from the royal family is William ! IMO .. The royal family is in need of a good shake up . She should abdicate . Charlie boy should refuse to take the throne and wills should take over ! Maybe then the royal family will gain more respect from the non believers ! I imagine its because of the past atrocities condoned by the guy in question." This coming from the royal family ?? Mmmmmmmmm | |||
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"Charlie just did a nice interview. Think his advisors must have notified him of the disquiet on the swinging front." Better late than never I guess | |||
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"I think we should be more arsed about the weather than a muppet sat in gold chair. The fact that Charles avoids paying tax through his charity work tells me that there in it for themselves. The two royals that add colour to the mix Harry and Big Phil are the most entertaining. We need to see more of them two and Pippa bum. Royals add to economy in a big way and that's the only reason I don't support the full abdication. " Charles pays tax on his income from the duchy, he insists on it. The duchy doesn't pay tax because it's not required to. Would you pay tax if you weren't required to? | |||
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"Charlie just did a nice interview. Think his advisors must have notified him of the disquiet on the swinging front." Waiting to see HRHswingers posting on here in a bit | |||
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"I fully support our royal family’s right to follow established protocol or break with those conventions in the same way I accept anyone right to behave in a manner that helps them deal with such situations… I for one am celebrating the life of Nelson Mandela today rather than mourning his passing .... " | |||
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"Just saw a tv statement from them that they did last night at the film premiere. So they did do one. " The queen was at a film premiere Wow ! I'm sure it was William and Kate | |||
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"IMO .. The royal family is in need of a good shake up . She should abdicate . Charlie boy should refuse to take the throne and wills should take over ! Maybe then the royal family will gain more respect from the non believers ! " I am a non-believer in the RF. As far as Lizzy abdicating is concerned, surely, if she was one of us commoners, she would have hung up her tiara and retired by now, giving Charlie a quick stint in the big chair before his turn to get out the pipe and slippers comes along. Wills does seem to actually be more likely to be in tune with the 21st century and the people of this country, so yes, bring him to the big seat and give him a chance to drag the monarchy kicking and screaming up to date, you never know, my opinions of the Windsors might actually improve | |||
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"Yep. We as a little group of people can do nothing. Yet as a nation we gripe but never follow an uprise. Power to the people. Haha " | |||
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"I totally agree with an earlier poster who said that they were celebrating the life and work of Nelson Mandela today, he has been an inspiration to so many people in this world and I for one am glad to have lived at the same time as him, there have been few enough genuinely thought-provoking people around in our time. IMO .. The royal family is in need of a good shake up . She should abdicate . Charlie boy should refuse to take the throne and wills should take over ! Maybe then the royal family will gain more respect from the non believers ! I am a non-believer in the RF. As far as Lizzy abdicating is concerned, surely, if she was one of us commoners, she would have hung up her tiara and retired by now, giving Charlie a quick stint in the big chair before his turn to get out the pipe and slippers comes along. Wills does seem to actually be more likely to be in tune with the 21st century and the people of this country, so yes, bring him to the big seat and give him a chance to drag the monarchy kicking and screaming up to date, you never know, my opinions of the Windsors might actually improve " This is exactly my point I mean wtf is she doing ? She's been on the throne donkeys years Charlie boy is in his 60's and dying for a turn And then there's wills who's in his 30's now So the scenario is this .... Liz passes away ... Wow what a funeral and a cost to the tax payer that is Then there's the crowning of Charlie boy ... Again another state ceremony at a cost And not long after a repeat performance with wills ! Im gonna get some stick from the royalists about this but care not a jot They are so far removed from reality it's untrue Anyway where all in it together !! | |||
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"We have gold diamonds & slaves from this country would you be proud to stand as an english /german /greek decendent ?" What you chuffing on about? | |||
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"We have gold diamonds & slaves from this country would you be proud to stand as an english /german /greek decendent ? What you chuffing on about?" I think he means that they stole a lot of things over the years and also they aren't propa 'English'... By the tone he probably also feels that they aren't or shouldn't be considered worthy of adulation simply cos of their bloodline. | |||
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"With the passing of nelson Mandela Statesmen . Priministers .presidents and world leaders have all publicly spoke Our queen and future king have had statements read out on their behalf ! WTF are they doing that's so important they can't do a tv statement ? I thought they were supposed to be something this country relies on ? The only person to speak publicly from the royal family is William ! IMO .. The royal family is in need of a good shake up . She should abdicate . Charlie boy should refuse to take the throne and wills should take over ! Maybe then the royal family will gain more respect from the non believers ! " So you'd like the Royals to be puppets? Are the Queen and Charles not Essex or Chelsea enough for you? A statement is appropriate enough for this occasion rather than jump on the vote seeking band wagon of every politician and their dog. The passing of Mandela is a sad occasion. He will be remembered for many good things. Rightly so. However the fact that the highest two royals not making a public statement in person does not show any sign of disrespect to the man. In fact it shows a bit of traditional class, which, is sadly lacking in this modern celebrity culture driven society today. | |||
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"With the passing of nelson Mandela Statesmen . Priministers .presidents and world leaders have all publicly spoke Our queen and future king have had statements read out on their behalf ! WTF are they doing that's so important they can't do a tv statement ? I thought they were supposed to be something this country relies on ? The only person to speak publicly from the royal family is William ! IMO .. The royal family is in need of a good shake up . She should abdicate . Charlie boy should refuse to take the throne and wills should take over ! Maybe then the royal family will gain more respect from the non believers ! So you'd like the Royals to be puppets? Are the Queen and Charles not Essex or Chelsea enough for you? A statement is appropriate enough for this occasion rather than jump on the vote seeking band wagon of every politician and their dog. The passing of Mandela is a sad occasion. He will be remembered for many good things. Rightly so. However the fact that the highest two royals not making a public statement in person does not show any sign of disrespect to the man. In fact it shows a bit of traditional class, which, is sadly lacking in this modern celebrity culture driven society today." What a crock of shit She was probably too busy scanning the racing post Useless the lot em | |||
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"It gives me a rather smug feeling knowing all those people calling for the abolition of the monarchy will not be getting their way any time soon... " | |||
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"Kick them all out. Make Britain a Republic and drag the country into the 21st century. " Dragging the UK into the 21st Century is nothing to do with the Royals. It is upon the voting public and politicians. Unfortunately nobody has the balls to do what needs to be done to make our world a better place. A republic will not change the ecomonical and environmental problems that the world faces. Due to our ignorance and greed as a species. These are the real issues that face our society and the population of the world as a whole. If you feel that a Republic will drag the UK into the 21st century, I fear for your perspective of our future. Can you look in the mirror and say you've done enough. I don't think any of us can. We complain and debate about life and the world daily. However we do not take any meaningful action. Instead we settle for keeping our words and actions to within our peer groups. All with no conviction to put ourselves out there. It takes true bravery to put yourself out there. Interesting to find out if any of us actually do. I know I can't say I do.....so are we all cowards....probably. The real issues in this world are not really issues. Although acknowledged as a problem. They will never be properly addressed as we only concentrate on ourselves and the hear and now. As a species we are supposed to be intelligent. Self confessed arrogance. If we really were as intelligent as we think we are then our world would be a very different place. | |||
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"With the passing of nelson Mandela Statesmen . Priministers .presidents and world leaders have all publicly spoke " yep, weasel words from Cameron about 'blessed are the peacemakers'.. FFs what a crock from him.. | |||
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"Kick them all out. Make Britain a Republic and drag the country into the 21st century. Dragging the UK into the 21st Century is nothing to do with the Royals. It is upon the voting public and politicians. Unfortunately nobody has the balls to do what needs to be done to make our world a better place. A republic will not change the ecomonical and environmental problems that the world faces. Due to our ignorance and greed as a species. These are the real issues that face our society and the population of the world as a whole. If you feel that a Republic will drag the UK into the 21st century, I fear for your perspective of our future. Can you look in the mirror and say you've done enough. I don't think any of us can. We complain and debate about life and the world daily. However we do not take any meaningful action. Instead we settle for keeping our words and actions to within our peer groups. All with no conviction to put ourselves out there. It takes true bravery to put yourself out there. Interesting to find out if any of us actually do. I know I can't say I do.....so are we all cowards....probably. The real issues in this world are not really issues. Although acknowledged as a problem. They will never be properly addressed as we only concentrate on ourselves and the hear and now. As a species we are supposed to be intelligent. Self confessed arrogance. If we really were as intelligent as we think we are then our world would be a very different place. " I can honestly say I do And happy to chat about it more privately | |||
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"Kick them all out. Make Britain a Republic and drag the country into the 21st century. Dragging the UK into the 21st Century is nothing to do with the Royals. It is upon the voting public and politicians. Unfortunately nobody has the balls to do what needs to be done to make our world a better place. A republic will not change the ecomonical and environmental problems that the world faces. Due to our ignorance and greed as a species. These are the real issues that face our society and the population of the world as a whole. If you feel that a Republic will drag the UK into the 21st century, I fear for your perspective of our future. Can you look in the mirror and say you've done enough. I don't think any of us can. We complain and debate about life and the world daily. However we do not take any meaningful action. Instead we settle for keeping our words and actions to within our peer groups. All with no conviction to put ourselves out there. It takes true bravery to put yourself out there. Interesting to find out if any of us actually do. I know I can't say I do.....so are we all cowards....probably. The real issues in this world are not really issues. Although acknowledged as a problem. They will never be properly addressed as we only concentrate on ourselves and the hear and now. As a species we are supposed to be intelligent. Self confessed arrogance. If we really were as intelligent as we think we are then our world would be a very different place. " That's a very long winded way of saying not very much. | |||
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"Kick them all out. Make Britain a Republic and drag the country into the 21st century. Dragging the UK into the 21st Century is nothing to do with the Royals. It is upon the voting public and politicians. Unfortunately nobody has the balls to do what needs to be done to make our world a better place. A republic will not change the ecomonical and environmental problems that the world faces. Due to our ignorance and greed as a species. These are the real issues that face our society and the population of the world as a whole. If you feel that a Republic will drag the UK into the 21st century, I fear for your perspective of our future. Can you look in the mirror and say you've done enough. I don't think any of us can. We complain and debate about life and the world daily. However we do not take any meaningful action. Instead we settle for keeping our words and actions to within our peer groups. All with no conviction to put ourselves out there. It takes true bravery to put yourself out there. Interesting to find out if any of us actually do. I know I can't say I do.....so are we all cowards....probably. The real issues in this world are not really issues. Although acknowledged as a problem. They will never be properly addressed as we only concentrate on ourselves and the hear and now. As a species we are supposed to be intelligent. Self confessed arrogance. If we really were as intelligent as we think we are then our world would be a very different place. " Speak for yourself. | |||
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"It gives me a rather smug feeling knowing all those people calling for the abolition of the monarchy will not be getting their way any time soon... " With respect, it gives me a really smug feeling knowing that all those people clinging onto the monarchy are slaves to a personality cult that keeps them fearful of democracy. | |||
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"With the passing of nelson Mandela Statesmen . Priministers .presidents and world leaders have all publicly spoke yep, weasel words from Cameron about 'blessed are the peacemakers'.. FFs what a crock from him.. " notice cam moron has kept very quiet about his time with the young conservatives in the eightys campaingning for Mandela to be hung as a terroroist also hes very quiet on his trips to south africa to assist companys to break the anti aparthite sanctions hypocrite | |||
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"With the passing of nelson Mandela Statesmen . Priministers .presidents and world leaders have all publicly spoke yep, weasel words from Cameron about 'blessed are the peacemakers'.. FFs what a crock from him.. notice cam moron has kept very quiet about his time with the young conservatives in the eightys campaingning for Mandela to be hung as a terroroist also hes very quiet on his trips to south africa to assist companys to break the anti aparthite sanctions hypocrite " | |||
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"With the passing of nelson Mandela Statesmen . Priministers .presidents and world leaders have all publicly spoke yep, weasel words from Cameron about 'blessed are the peacemakers'.. FFs what a crock from him.. notice cam moron has kept very quiet about his time with the young conservatives in the eightys campaingning for Mandela to be hung as a terroroist also hes very quiet on his trips to south africa to assist companys to break the anti aparthite sanctions hypocrite " or typical tory caught out... | |||
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