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"passed away.... I knew this day was coming but still a shock.... the man united a country and got the respect of the world..." | |||
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"passed away.... I knew this day was coming but still a shock.... the man united a country and got the respect of the world..." So true RIP Nelson Mandela | |||
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"passed away.... I knew this day was coming but still a shock.... the man united a country and got the respect of the world..." Was very poorly lately. Rest in peace. | |||
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"Ok , people want to show their respects on this thread, please let people do that. " RIP to a true inspiration | |||
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"The world has lost a great man" Irreplaceable .....just when the world needs great men ...we lose the finest . | |||
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"As I walked out the door toward the gate that would lead to my freedom, I knew if I didn't leave my bitterness and hatred behind, I'd still be in prison. Nelson Mandela 1918-2013 " great words | |||
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"As I walked out the door toward the gate that would lead to my freedom, I knew if I didn't leave my bitterness and hatred behind, I'd still be in prison. Nelson Mandela 1918-2013 " | |||
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"“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” Nelson Mandela" | |||
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"“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” Nelson Mandela" | |||
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"Ok....in respect of the people who want to add condolences to this thread I am taking the other posts off. If people want it to stay a RIP thread, then ignore any other posts and report them. If anyone wants to start a thread on a different issue, by all means do. I can't believe all this everytime somebody dies, it is getting tedious. " Sorry but this wasn't just somebody This thread proves that D x | |||
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"He was one of a kind, we'll never see another one. Thoughts and wishes with his family. RIP Madiba " | |||
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"“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” Nelson Mandela" So very true | |||
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"The accolade 'Greatness' is used too often, it should be reserved for people like Nelson Mandela. " The term "hero" seems appropriate, too. | |||
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"The accolade 'Greatness' is used too often, it should be reserved for people like Nelson Mandela. The term "hero" seems appropriate, too. " A "Saint"even .... | |||
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"The accolade 'Greatness' is used too often, it should be reserved for people like Nelson Mandela. The term "hero" seems appropriate, too. A "Saint"even ...." Er........ naw! That's when you start getting into all that pish about miracles | |||
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"there are not many people you could call global "icons" of the last half of the 20th century... my list was Gandhi, MLK, Pope john paul 2 and Mandela...... statesmen not politicians" Flagging JP2 up as an 'icon' on a site designed to facilitate sexual activity between people who aren't necessarily married to each other, are seldom doing it for the purpose of procreation and almost always use condoms is a joke. | |||
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"there are not many people you could call global "icons" of the last half of the 20th century... my list was Gandhi, MLK, Pope john paul 2 and Mandela...... statesmen not politicians Flagging JP2 up as an 'icon' on a site designed to facilitate sexual activity between people who aren't necessarily married to each other, are seldom doing it for the purpose of procreation and almost always use condoms is a joke." Only if your bigotry,runs deeper,than your common sense. | |||
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"there are not many people you could call global "icons" of the last half of the 20th century... my list was Gandhi, MLK, Pope john paul 2 and Mandela...... statesmen not politicians Flagging JP2 up as an 'icon' on a site designed to facilitate sexual activity between people who aren't necessarily married to each other, are seldom doing it for the purpose of procreation and almost always use condoms is a joke. Only if your bigotry,runs deeper,than your common sense. " When did pointing out the truth, unpalatable as it may be, become bigotry? | |||
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"there are not many people you could call global "icons" of the last half of the 20th century... my list was Gandhi, MLK, Pope john paul 2 and Mandela...... statesmen not politicians Flagging JP2 up as an 'icon' on a site designed to facilitate sexual activity between people who aren't necessarily married to each other, are seldom doing it for the purpose of procreation and almost always use condoms is a joke." What a truly bizarre thing to say. Don't we all have a life outside this site/forum, with all our beliefs, emotional preferences, choices, etc? There are other topics discussed here that could be perceived as distasteful, even in a sexual context. Holding somebody in a high regard is not one of them. | |||
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"We do indeed all have a life outwith Fab but I'd rather hoped the personal values we hold apply to our Fab and non-Fab lives. Anything else is just being two-faced." Pope John Paul II stood for a lot of things. Although an atheist, I did admire him, too. I fail to see how that can be two-faced. What other dimension is there apart from fab/non-fab lives? | |||
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"We do indeed all have a life outwith Fab but I'd rather hoped the personal values we hold apply to our Fab and non-Fab lives. Anything else is just being two-faced. Pope John Paul II stood for a lot of things. Although an atheist, I did admire him, too. I fail to see how that can be two-faced. What other dimension is there apart from fab/non-fab lives? " The point I made (above) is that Fabsters, in general, have no problem with homosexuality, sex outwith marriage and the use of condoms. JP2, and other Popes, condemns all 3 - and more. The only extra marital sex the Pope doesn't seem to have a problem with is priests abusing children in their care. | |||
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"We do indeed all have a life outwith Fab but I'd rather hoped the personal values we hold apply to our Fab and non-Fab lives. Anything else is just being two-faced. Pope John Paul II stood for a lot of things. Although an atheist, I did admire him, too. I fail to see how that can be two-faced. What other dimension is there apart from fab/non-fab lives? The point I made (above) is that Fabsters, in general, have no problem with homosexuality, sex outwith marriage and the use of condoms. JP2, and other Popes, condemns all 3 - and more. The only extra marital sex the Pope doesn't seem to have a problem with is priests abusing children in their care." Just one reason why I hate religion, especially the Catholic Church. | |||
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"Just brought this up to remind the people who said rip to this good man that he was once branded a terrorist by the British government just like Martin mcguinness was. " The difference was his was a political struggle against oppression due to the colour of his skin. He went to prison and remained resolute, preaching peace as a way of setting right the obvious wrong.. His wasn't a battle over which government collected the rubbish from outside your house or what version of a religious belief you held.. (yes that does belittle the troubles in Ireland but that is ultimately what it was over) Mandela openly admitted what he did in his early years was the wrong course of action and made up for that by fighting to free south Africa from apartheid. Mcguinness never once admitted any involvement with any acts of violence nor did he apologise to the families of those killed by the IRA on behalf of the Republican government he served. mcguinness died with blood on his hands and the death of hundreds on his conscience... There will be many hoping he burns for eternity.. | |||
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"Just brought this up to remind the people who said rip to this good man that he was once branded a terrorist by the British government just like Martin mcguinness was. The difference was his was a political struggle against oppression due to the colour of his skin. He went to prison and remained resolute, preaching peace as a way of setting right the obvious wrong.. His wasn't a battle over which government collected the rubbish from outside your house or what version of a religious belief you held.. (yes that does belittle the troubles in Ireland but that is ultimately what it was over) Mandela openly admitted what he did in his early years was the wrong course of action and made up for that by fighting to free south Africa from apartheid. Mcguinness never once admitted any involvement with any acts of violence nor did he apologise to the families of those killed by the IRA on behalf of the Republican government he served. mcguinness died with blood on his hands and the death of hundreds on his conscience... There will be many hoping he burns for eternity.. " and many more who will morn him as a peace maker and as a hero too | |||
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"The difference was his was a political struggle against oppression due to the colour of his skin. He went to prison and remained resolute, preaching peace as a way of setting right the obvious wrong.. His wasn't a battle over which government collected the rubbish from outside your house or what version of a religious belief you held.. (yes that does belittle the troubles in Ireland but that is ultimately what it was over " They were both representing peoples who had their human rights suppressed. Both started with military tactics before leading their movement into a peaceful, democratic process. The Catholic/Protestant narrative doesn't accurately reflect the NI issue at all. It's simple, convenient and media friendly. People were not fighting to practice their religion. They were fighting to gain self-determination, for their right to a cultural identity, and for their human rights. | |||
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"passed away.... I knew this day was coming but still a shock.... the man united a country and got the respect of the world..." I've learnt so many lessons reading about him, it should be lessons taught in schools today. | |||
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