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"would do so again with out the financial incentive.. they can cause absolute carnage.." With you guys on that one | |||
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"I wouldn't need a financial incentive to shop a drink driver. Selfish fuckers deserve everything they get." this all day long. | |||
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"If your stopped they feel your driving is not good and just 1 drink in your blood they can still charge you with drink driving .As each person tolerance is different ." I don't think that's right there is a legal blood alcohol level | |||
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"If your stopped they feel your driving is not good and just 1 drink in your blood they can still charge you with drink driving .As each person tolerance is different . I don't think that's right there is a legal blood alcohol level " yES it is right ..... being under and if your driving is not good can still be done. They have laws now they can do that. | |||
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"taxi drivers don't help cos lots refuse to pick up d*unks" I wouldn't be blaming the taxi driver in that scenario? | |||
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"how would you feel if you knew your friend reported you" i wouold be pretty pissed off. but then im not moronic or selfish enough to be driving whilst d*unk anyway. i had a mate that did it, a few years back. he turned up one day with the back of his car caved in. he had come out of the pub and reversed into a skip, then drove home. the thing that got me was this pub is in the vacinity of a primary school, so that could have more than easily been something other than a skip. we eventually got caught for it and banned for 10 years. which was the trigger for him realising he had a problem and working to solve it. | |||
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"how would you feel if you knew your friend reported you" If I was stupid enough to drink drive I would hope my friends would shop me and I'd deserve it, As has been said before if it's a friend I would try take there keys first telling them if they drive I'm phoning the police, then when I do there's no one to blame but themselves | |||
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"how would you feel if you knew your friend reported you" How would you feel if you didn't report them and they subsequently killed a young child? I expect certain values and morals of my friends and drink driving is a dealbreaker. | |||
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"how would you feel if you knew your friend reported you" I don't drink & drive so that's not an issue. Id tell them they can't drive & if they ignored me, risked others, & i couldn't physically stop them, id report them. My friends arnt in the habit of drink driving though | |||
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"maybe the answer at xmas time is to make public transport cheaper to encourage them to not take the car" Or maybe the answer is to not drink? It really is that simple. I'm sorry but you seem to be making a lot of excuses for drink driving, taxi drivers, public transport all seem to be to blame. Where does individual responsibility fit in to this? | |||
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"Just say you worked in a pub or a club new the people who was having the drinks and driving they could make 1000s of pounds. I can see it all ending up nasty because there money on offer ." Which is why I don't believe they will pay anywhere near £1000. It would be too easy to visit a different country pub every day and trouser a good chunk of cash anytime of year, let alone near christmas. A bit of sound bite journalism I think. | |||
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"maybe the answer at xmas time is to make public transport cheaper to encourage them to not take the car Or maybe the answer is to not drink? It really is that simple. I'm sorry but you seem to be making a lot of excuses for drink driving, taxi drivers, public transport all seem to be to blame. Where does individual responsibility fit in to this? " in an ideal world | |||
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"maybe the answer at xmas time is to make public transport cheaper to encourage them to not take the car Or maybe the answer is to not drink? It really is that simple. I'm sorry but you seem to be making a lot of excuses for drink driving, taxi drivers, public transport all seem to be to blame. Where does individual responsibility fit in to this? in an ideal world " An ideal world? Seriously? If you want to drive don't drink. What is so difficult about that concept? | |||
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"maybe the answer at xmas time is to make public transport cheaper to encourage them to not take the car Or maybe the answer is to not drink? It really is that simple. I'm sorry but you seem to be making a lot of excuses for drink driving, taxi drivers, public transport all seem to be to blame. Where does individual responsibility fit in to this? in an ideal world An ideal world? Seriously? If you want to drive don't drink. What is so difficult about that concept?" I don't approve of people that drink and drive that's the thing | |||
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"Just say you worked in a pub or a club new the people who was having the drinks and driving they could make 1000s of pounds. I can see it all ending up nasty because there money on offer . Which is why I don't believe they will pay anywhere near £1000. It would be too easy to visit a different country pub every day and trouser a good chunk of cash anytime of year, let alone near christmas. A bit of sound bite journalism I think." well they offer cash and knowing how hard up some people are ... its there pay off and some will do whatever for 100/200 let alone 1000 pounds.Not just to keep others safe ... some people have been known to call police even if there old man was drinking at home and they are not getting on saying they had been driving just to get at them ...... just you can be done even if not driving a car ... even if sleeping it off in your car you can be done if have the keys in your pocket . | |||
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"taxi drivers don't help cos lots refuse to pick up d*unks" No we don't, we only refuse to pick up people who are a complete mess and liable to cost us time and money in cleaning your bodily fluids up. | |||
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"Money or no money involved I would defantly report a drink driver who wasnt fit enough to drive. " . And I mean anyone including a mate. | |||
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" Punishment for drink driving is far to lenient." Minimum three year ban and a lifetime ban for a second offense. Punishment for all driving offences is always too lenient though. Society and the judiciary view driving as a right not a privilege. Anyone that receives a ban (for any offence not just drinking) should be forced to retake their test before returning to the road and initially only be allowed to drive in a non professional capacity/ I also think that if it is acceptable to force people serving community service to where jackets proclaiming "community payback" (or similar), then returning drivers should have a plate on their car identifying them for a time when returning to the road. | |||
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"Money or no money involved I would defantly report a drink driver who wasnt fit enough to drive. . And I mean anyone including a mate. " You must have a different definition of 'mate'. A mate wouldn't let another get to the point where s/he get anywhere near the driving seat of a car whilst intoxicated. Steal their keys, buy them a taxi ride home and never let them forget the night their live very nearly fell apart. | |||
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"Biggest problem is spotting the d*unk drivers. Some people drive so badly that they must be d*unk or on drugs, unfortunately not enough police cars on the road to stop them. They are too busy catching the "dangerous" speeders !!" Are you saying speeding isn't dangerous? | |||
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"Biggest problem is spotting the d*unk drivers. Some people drive so badly that they must be d*unk or on drugs, unfortunately not enough police cars on the road to stop them. They are too busy catching the "dangerous" speeders !! Are you saying speeding isn't dangerous? " on its own, no its not. i personally have crashed whilst driving at 25 on a 40 road. why? because the road was shite. slush, raining and so on, i was going too fast FOR THE ROAD CONDITIONS and thats the nub of it for me. otherwise motor racing would be fatal if speed were so dangerous. any forward momentum can be dangerous if you dont observe the road conditions ahead of you | |||
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"taxi drivers don't help cos lots refuse to pick up d*unks" Would you allow someone who is d*unk into the back of your £36,000 vehicle ? | |||
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"taxi drivers don't help cos lots refuse to pick up d*unks Would you allow someone who is d*unk into the back of your £36,000 vehicle ? " I know a lot of taxi drivers and they have all said they wouldn't ..due to throwing up and possible agression | |||
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"If you know someone is about to drive over the limit on booze, or out their head on drugs, and you know which is their vehicle, let down all their tyres till they are flat. No, they won't be happy but at least they won't be driving. No police, no accidents, no fines/bans etc. Then have a good go at them next day. Have done this before and it certainly makes them think twice " Appreciate what your saying and can understand why but you run the risk of the idiot attempting to drive a car with flat tyres and d*unk which in itself is probably more dangerous than driving d*unk. Think it's been said but if you know them or they were a guest...loose the keys | |||
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"taxi drivers don't help cos lots refuse to pick up d*unks Would you allow someone who is d*unk into the back of your £36,000 vehicle ? I know a lot of taxi drivers and they have all said they wouldn't ..due to throwing up and possible agression" absolutely. and i for one agree with them. taxi drivers arent paid enough to put up with arseholes that cant handle their drink, so why should they. people should take responsibility for their own actions. going out for a drink? leave the car at home, go to your local, organise for a lift home beforehand or, better yet, if a group of friends, have one of you be the dezzy, that way you all get home safe, and rotate it every time you go out. best nights out i have had have been when i have stayed totally sober and watched everyone else make an arse of themselves, although i dont drink anyway so am usually the dezzy, and its fine by me | |||
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"That's how fucked this country is, successive Governments have succeeded so well in removing people's ideas of morals and ethics that it now requires a monetary reward to persuade people to do something that is morally and ethically right...go figure that one out" your right ........ should not take money and some will find out who grassed them up and beat the hell out of them it will all end up nasty. | |||
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"Oh and just to throw a spanner in the works! How do we deal with the sober drivers who are more dangerous on the roads than the d*unken ones ?? " make them retest? some OAPS should not be driving either | |||
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"That's how fucked this country is, successive Governments have succeeded so well in removing people's ideas of morals and ethics that it now requires a monetary reward to persuade people to do something that is morally and ethically right...go figure that one out" So if your caught drink driving your defence will be the government made me do it ? You can't blame them for everything. | |||
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"taxi drivers don't help cos lots refuse to pick up d*unks Would you allow someone who is d*unk into the back of your £36,000 vehicle ? I know a lot of taxi drivers and they have all said they wouldn't ..due to throwing up and possible agression" So what point was you trying to make when you said taxi drivers don't help ? | |||
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"maybe the answer at xmas time is to make public transport cheaper to encourage them to not take the car" I agree with this 100%, I live in a remote area and to go out and leave the car behind we have very limited time as the last bus and train is at 11pm... That should be extended over the xmas period and more. | |||
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"That's how fucked this country is, successive Governments have succeeded so well in removing people's ideas of morals and ethics that it now requires a monetary reward to persuade people to do something that is morally and ethically right...go figure that one out So if your caught drink driving your defence will be the government made me do it ? You can't blame them for everything. " How the fuck did you get that inference from my post, without taking a huge fucking leap of faith? Jeez, I swear a lot... | |||
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"That's how fucked this country is, successive Governments have succeeded so well in removing people's ideas of morals and ethics that it now requires a monetary reward to persuade people to do something that is morally and ethically right...go figure that one out" And personal responsibility is the fault of the government ? Not for me it isn't. | |||
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"taxi drivers don't help cos lots refuse to pick up d*unks Would you allow someone who is d*unk into the back of your £36,000 vehicle ? I know a lot of taxi drivers and they have all said they wouldn't ..due to throwing up and possible agression So what point was you trying to make when you said taxi drivers don't help ? " because that's why they take the car cos they cant get home | |||
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"taxi drivers don't help cos lots refuse to pick up d*unks Would you allow someone who is d*unk into the back of your £36,000 vehicle ? I know a lot of taxi drivers and they have all said they wouldn't ..due to throwing up and possible agression So what point was you trying to make when you said taxi drivers don't help ? because that's why they take the car cos they cant get home" I'm a little confused , are you saying taxi drivers are wrong for not picking up d*unks ? | |||
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"Oh and just to throw a spanner in the works! How do we deal with the sober drivers who are more dangerous on the roads than the d*unken ones ?? " i report them too | |||
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"taxi drivers don't help cos lots refuse to pick up d*unks Would you allow someone who is d*unk into the back of your £36,000 vehicle ? I know a lot of taxi drivers and they have all said they wouldn't ..due to throwing up and possible aggression So what point was you trying to make when you said taxi drivers don't help ? because that's why they take the car cos they cant get home I'm a little confused , are you saying taxi drivers are wrong for not picking up d*unks ?" not at all | |||
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"taxi drivers don't help cos lots refuse to pick up d*unks Would you allow someone who is d*unk into the back of your £36,000 vehicle ? I know a lot of taxi drivers and they have all said they wouldn't ..due to throwing up and possible aggression So what point was you trying to make when you said taxi drivers don't help ? because that's why they take the car cos they cant get home I'm a little confused , are you saying taxi drivers are wrong for not picking up d*unks ? not at all" Fairy nuff | |||
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"taxi drivers don't help cos lots refuse to pick up d*unks Would you allow someone who is d*unk into the back of your £36,000 vehicle ? I know a lot of taxi drivers and they have all said they wouldn't ..due to throwing up and possible agression So what point was you trying to make when you said taxi drivers don't help ? " My sister was a over night Taxi diver in Cambridge and she always said that when a taxi is booked and an address is given and anyone is sick in the car, that address gets the bill for the cleaning of the car, even if you pick someone up of the street they still have to give you an address to be dropped. She always said that when d*unk you have an ability that you can't lie as you can't think quick on your feet so more often or not the address is always right and now Taxis have to be fitted with CCTV's. Her biggest problem was runners but she did catch up with some and phoned the police with address etc. My ex was a taxi diver and he used to make them all pay up front if he was dropping to a club and having to pick them up again. If they ever became aggressive he would throw them out at the nearest police station. What i am trying to say is that all taxi drivers react in different ways and personally i think they are in their right to refuse if you are rat arsed and can't stand. And the best thing for the person who is going out to think about what is going to happen if i get pissed and how do i get home..... Yes and little ole Hotruby has slept on a bus station bench before now | |||
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"If you know someone is about to drive over the limit on booze, or out their head on drugs, and you know which is their vehicle, let down all their tyres till they are flat. No, they won't be happy but at least they won't be driving. No police, no accidents, no fines/bans etc. Then have a good go at them next day. Have done this before and it certainly makes them think twice Appreciate what your saying and can understand why but you run the risk of the idiot attempting to drive a car with flat tyres and d*unk which in itself is probably more dangerous than driving d*unk. Think it's been said but if you know them or they were a guest...loose the keys " Totally understand what you mean but different situations require different actions. Maybe you know them/maybe not. Absolutely pissed/or couple pints. Call the cops/resolve it yourself. Steal their keys/or let tyres down. We can only do what we thinks right at the time. Anyway, it worked | |||
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"taxi drivers don't help cos lots refuse to pick up d*unks Would you allow someone who is d*unk into the back of your £36,000 vehicle ? I know a lot of taxi drivers and they have all said they wouldn't ..due to throwing up and possible agression So what point was you trying to make when you said taxi drivers don't help ? My sister was a over night Taxi diver in Cambridge and she always said that when a taxi is booked and an address is given and anyone is sick in the car, that address gets the bill for the cleaning of the car, even if you pick someone up of the street they still have to give you an address to be dropped. She always said that when d*unk you have an ability that you can't lie as you can't think quick on your feet so more often or not the address is always right and now Taxis have to be fitted with CCTV's. Her biggest problem was runners but she did catch up with some and phoned the police with address etc. My ex was a taxi diver and he used to make them all pay up front if he was dropping to a club and having to pick them up again. If they ever became aggressive he would throw them out at the nearest police station. What i am trying to say is that all taxi drivers react in different ways and personally i think they are in their right to refuse if you are rat arsed and can't stand. And the best thing for the person who is going out to think about what is going to happen if i get pissed and how do i get home..... Yes and little ole Hotruby has slept on a bus station bench before now " slept in new street train station before now, cuz i couldnt get home. | |||
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"If it stops one person dying by getting them off the road i think its an excellent idea. " Would do it with out the bounty | |||
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"The simple truth is never ever get in a vehicle if alcohol has passed your lips. I was recently prosecuted my self. Not for drink driving but for being d*unk charge(never heard of that until then). Had a big bust up with a ex grabbed my duvet jumped into the passenger set of my van and feel asleep. Please passed an hour later saw me asleep knocked on the window asked what I was doing explained the situation said had had a argument asked if i had a drink I said yes but had no intention of driving though. keys in pocket just wanted to cool down and not be near her.Breatherlysed, Arrested and put in a cell. I have never been arrested or had points ever. My solicitor said to me plead guilty I guarantee you'll get 10 points. Plead not guilty it's 50/50 you'll get away with no points or get a 12 month ban which I couldn't afford as self employed. So took the 10 points. Never ever get in a vehicle if you have had a drink even if not driving. " yes I knew of this and not a lot do ........ some think its ok to sit in your car not driving just getting over drink you can't if you have the car keys .... now if car keys out side car you would not get done . | |||
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