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"Drug habit or not she doesn't deserve to be physically abused in public, no one does." | |||
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"Since when does having a drug habit mean someone deserves to be assaulted? " maybe the drug problem is a result of the abuse, there's a thought! | |||
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"Drug habit or not she doesn't deserve to be physically abused in public, no one does." | |||
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"None of this has been proved! Its allegations by Charles Saatchi!! Of course there's going to be mud slinging there's a divorce coming up!!!! " this.... | |||
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"Shock horror.. folk on the TV are not perfect??!! well well.. Her husbands not perfect either, people expect him to be though. Nobody knows what he had to put up with do they." Regardless of "what he had to put up with" you DON'T put your hands round a woman's throat, or anyone's for that matter, unless your life depends on it, his clearly didn't. Let's consider what she may have had to put up with too, we already know he physically assaulted her, maybe that is just the tip of the iceberg... | |||
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"There is no valid excuse for any male to physically and mentally abuse any female. " Anyone of any sex. | |||
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"Shock horror.. folk on the TV are not perfect??!! well well.. Her husbands not perfect either, people expect him to be though. Nobody knows what he had to put up with do they. Regardless of "what he had to put up with" you DON'T put your hands round a woman's throat, or anyone's for that matter, unless your life depends on it, his clearly didn't. Let's consider what she may have had to put up with too, we already know he physically assaulted her, maybe that is just the tip of the iceberg... " What if it was the other way round though, her putting her hands around his throat, people would of probably said she was just fooling around, like married couples do. | |||
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"Shock horror.. folk on the TV are not perfect??!! well well.. Her husbands not perfect either, people expect him to be though. Nobody knows what he had to put up with do they. Regardless of "what he had to put up with" you DON'T put your hands round a woman's throat, or anyone's for that matter, unless your life depends on it, his clearly didn't. Let's consider what she may have had to put up with too, we already know he physically assaulted her, maybe that is just the tip of the iceberg... What if it was the other way round though, her putting her hands around his throat, people would of probably said she was just fooling around, like married couples do." Read the comment again... You don't put your hands round the neck of anyone! Its about time DV was recognised both ways! | |||
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"Drug habit or not she doesn't deserve to be physically abused in public, no one does." | |||
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"Shock horror.. folk on the TV are not perfect??!! well well.. Her husbands not perfect either, people expect him to be though. Nobody knows what he had to put up with do they. Regardless of "what he had to put up with" you DON'T put your hands round a woman's throat, or anyone's for that matter, unless your life depends on it, his clearly didn't. Let's consider what she may have had to put up with too, we already know he physically assaulted her, maybe that is just the tip of the iceberg... " this... and there are always 2 sides to a story to... | |||
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"really really dislike public mudslinging when divorces happen. its NOT in the public interest, so why is it being reported? i for one dont care at all and neither should anyone else. it really should be private, but no, they each have to make themselves look like the victim. makes me sick" this didn't come out because of the Divorce case.... This came out because of a fraud trial where two of Nigella's Personal assistants are accused of stealing money over a 10 year period..... it is part of their character defence..... | |||
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"Oh dear lawd words escape me......how judgmental one person can be... " are we surprised though?? | |||
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"really really dislike public mudslinging when divorces happen. its NOT in the public interest, so why is it being reported? i for one dont care at all and neither should anyone else. it really should be private, but no, they each have to make themselves look like the victim. makes me sick this didn't come out because of the Divorce case.... This came out because of a fraud trial where two of Nigella's Personal assistants are accused of stealing money over a 10 year period..... it is part of their character defence....." says more about them then it does about her if the allegations are true... | |||
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"Shock horror.. folk on the TV are not perfect??!! well well.. Her husbands not perfect either, people expect him to be though. Nobody knows what he had to put up with do they. Regardless of "what he had to put up with" you DON'T put your hands round a woman's throat, or anyone's for that matter, unless your life depends on it, his clearly didn't. Let's consider what she may have had to put up with too, we already know he physically assaulted her, maybe that is just the tip of the iceberg... What if it was the other way round though, her putting her hands around his throat, people would of probably said she was just fooling around, like married couples do." I said "anyones neck". Domestic violence, regardless of the victims gender is appalling and no one should have to suffer it. | |||
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" this didn't come out because of the Divorce case.... This came out because of a fraud trial where two of Nigella's Personal assistants are accused of stealing money over a 10 year period..... it is part of their character defence..... says more about them then it does about her if the allegations are true..." well they pleaded not guilty.... so many people put 2 and 2 together in this thread and got 5...... if you read the case the pa's are accused of defrauding BOTH of the couple, and there defence is that she gave them permission, and the drug use (cocaine, other class b drugs and medically prescribed medicines....) mean she is not a fit witness | |||
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"Seems to me the word of a violent man is paramount these days. It's just another of his nasty ploys to besmirch the character of the gawjus nigella lawson." of course. because she is more attractive, her word is more valid than his. god i do hope you arent on the jury i rely on for my innocence | |||
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"really really dislike public mudslinging when divorces happen. its NOT in the public interest, so why is it being reported? i for one dont care at all and neither should anyone else. it really should be private, but no, they each have to make themselves look like the victim. makes me sick this didn't come out because of the Divorce case.... This came out because of a fraud trial where two of Nigella's Personal assistants are accused of stealing money over a 10 year period..... it is part of their character defence....." sorry, yes i know, but its all running towards the same thing, and no doubt will be used when the divorce comes to court. still not in the public interest, imo | |||
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" this didn't come out because of the Divorce case.... This came out because of a fraud trial where two of Nigella's Personal assistants are accused of stealing money over a 10 year period..... it is part of their character defence..... says more about them then it does about her if the allegations are true... well they pleaded not guilty.... so many people put 2 and 2 together in this thread and got 5...... if you read the case the pa's are accused of defrauding BOTH of the couple, and there defence is that she gave them permission, and the drug use (cocaine, other class b drugs and medically prescribed medicines....) mean she is not a fit witness" Well, drug use or not, it doesn't give someone the right to theft. | |||
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"really really dislike public mudslinging when divorces happen. its NOT in the public interest, so why is it being reported? i for one dont care at all and neither should anyone else. it really should be private, but no, they each have to make themselves look like the victim. makes me sick this didn't come out because of the Divorce case.... This came out because of a fraud trial where two of Nigella's Personal assistants are accused of stealing money over a 10 year period..... it is part of their character defence..... sorry, yes i know, but its all running towards the same thing, and no doubt will be used when the divorce comes to court. still not in the public interest, imo" Definitely not in the public interest. It should be a private matter, as should divorce. Typical tabloid reporting at its worst.. | |||
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"really really dislike public mudslinging when divorces happen. its NOT in the public interest, so why is it being reported? i for one dont care at all and neither should anyone else. it really should be private, but no, they each have to make themselves look like the victim. makes me sick this didn't come out because of the Divorce case.... This came out because of a fraud trial where two of Nigella's Personal assistants are accused of stealing money over a 10 year period..... it is part of their character defence..... sorry, yes i know, but its all running towards the same thing, and no doubt will be used when the divorce comes to court. still not in the public interest, imo Definitely not in the public interest. It should be a private matter, as should divorce. Typical tabloid reporting at its worst.." if only this kind of crap were only in the tabloids | |||
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" this didn't come out because of the Divorce case.... This came out because of a fraud trial where two of Nigella's Personal assistants are accused of stealing money over a 10 year period..... it is part of their character defence..... says more about them then it does about her if the allegations are true... well they pleaded not guilty.... so many people put 2 and 2 together in this thread and got 5...... if you read the case the pa's are accused of defrauding BOTH of the couple, and there defence is that she gave them permission, and the drug use (cocaine, other class b drugs and medically prescribed medicines....) mean she is not a fit witness Well, drug use or not, it doesn't give someone the right to theft." again... they deny all the charges and say they were given permission..... this was going to come out during the trial anyway... and apparently there is a programme being shown in australia and the US that will make further allegations against nigella later this week.... so the judge was probably right to allow this to be out there before the trial starts..... | |||
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"Drug habit or not she doesn't deserve to be physically abused in public, no one does." | |||
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"None of this has been proved! Its allegations by Charles Saatchi!! Of course there's going to be mud slinging there's a divorce coming up!!!! " | |||
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" Definitely not in the public interest. It should be a private matter, as should divorce. Typical tabloid reporting at its worst.." lots of words that mean nothing... again... a) it was going to come out in the trial anyway..... b) its not the tabloids... it was THE JUDGE in this trial that allowed it to be reported... now... if you want to argue they are sensationalising it, then that is a different conversation... they would never have been allowed to report it and would have been held in comtempt of court if, again "the judge" had not allowed it... | |||
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"Seems to me the word of a violent man is paramount these days. It's just another of his nasty ploys to besmirch the character of the gawjus nigella lawson. of course. because she is more attractive, her word is more valid than his. god i do hope you arent on the jury i rely on for my innocence" | |||
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"So she's taken a few drugs, doesn't mean she's got a drug problem and it's all only speculation at the moment, it wouldn't change my opinion of how sexy she is. Also anybody with a serious drug habit wouldn't look that voluptuous, I can tell you, it's just tabloid bullshit " in fairness my dear Watson she has lost a lot of weight recently though I've not seen her in the past few months....now Im not saying that is down to drug use it could be many factors such as stress, dieting and excersise... | |||
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"Shock horror.. folk on the TV are not perfect??!! well well.. Her husbands not perfect either, people expect him to be though. Nobody knows what he had to put up with do they." so is your thread about her husband or the allegations by him about her..? | |||
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"Oh Jesus she's done and ! We must tell the world! How about covering the horrible women who helped ian watkins get access to the baby? Or is that no longer important? [/rant]" haha I was reading the paper today, Nigella gets front page and a story inside for suspected drug use Ian Watkins got a tiny section about 5 lines long 10 pages in, funny what makes make's head line news now days isn't it | |||
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"Oh Jesus she's done and ! We must tell the world! How about covering the horrible women who helped ian watkins get access to the baby? Or is that no longer important? [/rant] haha I was reading the paper today, Nigella gets front page and a story inside for suspected drug use Ian Watkins got a tiny section about 5 lines long 10 pages in, funny what makes make's head line news now days isn't it " Really? That's disgusting. | |||
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"Oh Jesus she's done and ! We must tell the world! How about covering the horrible women who helped ian watkins get access to the baby? Or is that no longer important? [/rant] haha I was reading the paper today, Nigella gets front page and a story inside for suspected drug use Ian Watkins got a tiny section about 5 lines long 10 pages in, funny what makes make's head line news now days isn't it " Far more people know of Nigella than this musician person. | |||
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"Oh Jesus she's done and ! We must tell the world! How about covering the horrible women who helped ian watkins get access to the baby? Or is that no longer important? [/rant] haha I was reading the paper today, Nigella gets front page and a story inside for suspected drug use Ian Watkins got a tiny section about 5 lines long 10 pages in, funny what makes make's head line news now days isn't it Far more people know of Nigella than this musician person." That's my point, its people who make news now days not the crime, people are far more interested in a trivial crime by a well known person than a big offence by a nobody | |||
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"Oh Jesus she's done and ! We must tell the world! How about covering the horrible women who helped ian watkins get access to the baby? Or is that no longer important? [/rant] haha I was reading the paper today, Nigella gets front page and a story inside for suspected drug use Ian Watkins got a tiny section about 5 lines long 10 pages in, funny what makes make's head line news now days isn't it Far more people know of Nigella than this musician person." But that doesn't make it right. Then again, when has the tabloids ever given a shit about that? | |||
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"Oh Jesus she's done and ! We must tell the world! How about covering the horrible women who helped ian watkins get access to the baby? Or is that no longer important? [/rant] haha I was reading the paper today, Nigella gets front page and a story inside for suspected drug use Ian Watkins got a tiny section about 5 lines long 10 pages in, funny what makes make's head line news now days isn't it Far more people know of Nigella than this musician person. That's my point, its people who make news now days not the crime, people are far more interested in a trivial crime by a well known person than a big offence by a nobody " Plus the fact there's no ongoing mileage on the musician's trial, at least until sentencing. The Nigella trial will continue to sell papers for days and days. People take great delight in the misfortune of others. | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. " That information came from a biased source - the man she is divorcing. | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. That information came from a biased source - the man she is divorcing. " must be true then, no one ever lies in a divorce | |||
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"show me a TV star that hasnt got a drug problem " Harry Secombe. | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers must be true then, no one ever lies in a divorce " Yeah but the Sun knows its true, they did her phone! Oops probably shouldn't have said that | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. " Whatever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty"? These drug allegations haven't been proven in any way whatsoever! And they weren't made by Satchi. They were made by two women who were working for the couple and are now up in court accused of fraud! | |||
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"show me a TV star that hasnt got a drug problem Harry Secombe. " I would hope he hadn't hes been dead 12 years. | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. Whatever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty"? ..... " Where's the fun in that? | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. Whatever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty"? These drug allegations haven't been proven in any way whatsoever! And they weren't made by Satchi. They were made by two women who were working for the couple and are now up in court accused of fraud! " They were made by satchi, its his email to nigella slating her drug use as the reason the two women are going to get away with stealing the money which is being used as evidence by the defense. | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. " I'd still tag doll her all over the kitchen xx | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. Whatever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty"? These drug allegations haven't been proven in any way whatsoever! And they weren't made by Satchi. They were made by two women who were working for the couple and are now up in court accused of fraud! They were made by satchi, its his email to nigella slating her drug use as the reason the two women are going to get away with stealing the money which is being used as evidence by the defense." My point was, it's the two women who are bringing this up in court! Not Satchi! As part of their defence! | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. Whatever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty"? These drug allegations haven't been proven in any way whatsoever! And they weren't made by Satchi. They were made by two women who were working for the couple and are now up in court accused of fraud! They were made by satchi, its his email to nigella slating her drug use as the reason the two women are going to get away with stealing the money which is being used as evidence by the defense. My point was, it's the two women who are bringing this up in court! Not Satchi! As part of their defence!" Well how did they get hold of that email? Id be interested to know how that came about. | |||
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" They were made by satchi, its his email to nigella slating her drug use as the reason the two women are going to get away with stealing the money which is being used as evidence by the defense." I do wonder when he sent the email, if it was after his episode with the hand on her throat and subsequent acceptance of Police caution it looks rather contrived.. seems like hell hath no fury like a domestic abuser outed.. | |||
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" They were made by satchi, its his email to nigella slating her drug use as the reason the two women are going to get away with stealing the money which is being used as evidence by the defense. I do wonder when he sent the email, if it was after his episode with the hand on her throat and subsequent acceptance of Police caution it looks rather contrived.. seems like hell hath no fury like a domestic abuser outed.. " Exactly, stinks of a smear campaign to me... | |||
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"show me a TV star that hasnt got a drug problem Harry Secombe. I would hope he hadn't hes been dead 12 years. " Ok then, Flora Hurd | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. Whatever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty"? These drug allegations haven't been proven in any way whatsoever! And they weren't made by Satchi. They were made by two women who were working for the couple and are now up in court accused of fraud! They were made by satchi, its his email to nigella slating her drug use as the reason the two women are going to get away with stealing the money which is being used as evidence by the defense. My point was, it's the two women who are bringing this up in court! Not Satchi! As part of their defence! Well how did they get hold of that email? Id be interested to know how that came about." Because they worked for satchi and Nigella. Perhaps a computer was left on and they went snooping when they were 'allegedly' committing fraud? Perhaps Satchi left it lying about after printing it in the hope they would notice it? Any number of reasons could be the cause of how they got hold of it. | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. Whatever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty"? These drug allegations haven't been proven in any way whatsoever! And they weren't made by Satchi. They were made by two women who were working for the couple and are now up in court accused of fraud! They were made by satchi, its his email to nigella slating her drug use as the reason the two women are going to get away with stealing the money which is being used as evidence by the defense. My point was, it's the two women who are bringing this up in court! Not Satchi! As part of their defence! Well how did they get hold of that email? Id be interested to know how that came about. Because they worked for satchi and Nigella. Perhaps a computer was left on and they went snooping when they were 'allegedly' committing fraud? Perhaps Satchi left it lying about after printing it in the hope they would notice it? Any number of reasons could be the cause of how they got hold of it. " convienient timing that this has come out though? And that that type of conversation was used in an email? Im not convinced, I think he's probably sat at home pretty pleaaed with himself that it's his email that has smeared her character. All the while Nigella has kept a dignified silence. He couldnt even accept he was in the wrong when he put his hand round her throat in public! What an arrogant man he is thinking he could do that let alone in public and not be called up on it. I think he had everything to do with that email coming out but time will tell the truth always outs. | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. Whatever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty"? These drug allegations haven't been proven in any way whatsoever! And they weren't made by Satchi. They were made by two women who were working for the couple and are now up in court accused of fraud! They were made by satchi, its his email to nigella slating her drug use as the reason the two women are going to get away with stealing the money which is being used as evidence by the defense. My point was, it's the two women who are bringing this up in court! Not Satchi! As part of their defence! Well how did they get hold of that email? Id be interested to know how that came about. Because they worked for satchi and Nigella. Perhaps a computer was left on and they went snooping when they were 'allegedly' committing fraud? Perhaps Satchi left it lying about after printing it in the hope they would notice it? Any number of reasons could be the cause of how they got hold of it. convienient timing that this has come out though? And that that type of conversation was used in an email? Im not convinced, I think he's probably sat at home pretty pleaaed with himself that it's his email that has smeared her character. All the while Nigella has kept a dignified silence. He couldnt even accept he was in the wrong when he put his hand round her throat in public! What an arrogant man he is thinking he could do that let alone in public and not be called up on it. I think he had everything to do with that email coming out but time will tell the truth always outs." Hey, don't get me wrong! I totally agree with you. Satchi is a prick who is using this as a smear campaign. All i said was that it's the two women who are bringing it up in court. So what if she DID take cocaine! Is that any reason to publicly throttle the woman? Or any excuse for these women to 'allegedly' commit fraud against her? No. As you say, it's a smear campaign against her character. | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. Whatever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty"? These drug allegations haven't been proven in any way whatsoever! And they weren't made by Satchi. They were made by two women who were working for the couple and are now up in court accused of fraud! They were made by satchi, its his email to nigella slating her drug use as the reason the two women are going to get away with stealing the money which is being used as evidence by the defense. My point was, it's the two women who are bringing this up in court! Not Satchi! As part of their defence! Well how did they get hold of that email? Id be interested to know how that came about. Because they worked for satchi and Nigella. Perhaps a computer was left on and they went snooping when they were 'allegedly' committing fraud? Perhaps Satchi left it lying about after printing it in the hope they would notice it? Any number of reasons could be the cause of how they got hold of it. convienient timing that this has come out though? And that that type of conversation was used in an email? Im not convinced, I think he's probably sat at home pretty pleaaed with himself that it's his email that has smeared her character. All the while Nigella has kept a dignified silence. He couldnt even accept he was in the wrong when he put his hand round her throat in public! What an arrogant man he is thinking he could do that let alone in public and not be called up on it. I think he had everything to do with that email coming out but time will tell the truth always outs. Hey, don't get me wrong! I totally agree with you. Satchi is a prick who is using this as a smear campaign. All i said was that it's the two women who are bringing it up in court. So what if she DID take cocaine! Is that any reason to publicly throttle the woman? Or any excuse for these women to 'allegedly' commit fraud against her? No. As you say, it's a smear campaign against her character." | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. Whatever happened to "Innocent until proven guilty"? These drug allegations haven't been proven in any way whatsoever! And they weren't made by Satchi. They were made by two women who were working for the couple and are now up in court accused of fraud! They were made by satchi, its his email to nigella slating her drug use as the reason the two women are going to get away with stealing the money which is being used as evidence by the defense. My point was, it's the two women who are bringing this up in court! Not Satchi! As part of their defence! Well how did they get hold of that email? Id be interested to know how that came about. Because they worked for satchi and Nigella. Perhaps a computer was left on and they went snooping when they were 'allegedly' committing fraud? Perhaps Satchi left it lying about after printing it in the hope they would notice it? Any number of reasons could be the cause of how they got hold of it. convienient timing that this has come out though? And that that type of conversation was used in an email? Im not convinced, I think he's probably sat at home pretty pleaaed with himself that it's his email that has smeared her character. All the while Nigella has kept a dignified silence. He couldnt even accept he was in the wrong when he put his hand round her throat in public! What an arrogant man he is thinking he could do that let alone in public and not be called up on it. I think he had everything to do with that email coming out but time will tell the truth always outs. Hey, don't get me wrong! I totally agree with you. Satchi is a prick who is using this as a smear campaign. All i said was that it's the two women who are bringing it up in court. So what if she DID take cocaine! Is that any reason to publicly throttle the woman? Or any excuse for these women to 'allegedly' commit fraud against her? No. As you say, it's a smear campaign against her character. " | |||
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" but maybe we might have to accept that all is not what we thought it to be. Just a thought." Nope you are wrong, never given any thought to either of them being good bad criminal or legit. They both enjoy a good life that they have worked hard for and deserve. both of them will continue to enjoy a great life after the divorce. The details concern them, maybe they concern a few others, but they don't concern me. If there is criminal behaviour then the police will handle it accordingly, they will do it with proper evidence gathering not speculating on here-say and headlines. | |||
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"Mmmmmmmmmm? I think it's interesting how many people are so willing to take sides, despite the evidence that contradicts their opinions, particularly with regard to Nigella. We still don't know many aspects of the case in terms of timeline and "cause and effect". Saatchi may not be the most handsome man on the planet, but that doesn't automatically make him the baddie. Nor do the photographs of his "assault" on Nigella condemn or vindicate his behaviour. What's missing is context, and with some aspects of what we've been told context is missing. Equally just because Nigella is "attractive" doesn't make her an angel and I'm surprised at how eagerly people have lept to her defence. Her part in the whole drama should be taken into account, and she should be treated just like everyone else regardless at how "gorgeous" she is. There may be many more unpleasant titbits to be exposed, some involving Nigella, but it's interesting how it is not Saatchi bringing this all to air, and I do not believe in heroes and villains in such sad events, but maybe we might have to accept that all is not what we thought it to be. Just a thought." | |||
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" She suffered depression she had this for years . She was 41 years old and she had already lost her mother and younger sister to cancer at 48 and 32 , and now her husband at 47. If Nigella did turn to painkillers or drugs at this point, all one can say is that she had an awful lot of pain to kill ....... I think she may have been covering up a lot of pain in her life. I know how it feel to lose a person so close and it's hard even after a year some days for me to cope but I have never thank god hit drugs just had family and friends there. I for one will not be put off liking her, As there always loads of sides to the stories you read and its her life.They said in the paper her husband was mad saying look at what you're doing to your body with the drugs and her face in them pics we see him mad at her was not only around her neck he was feeling around her nose on some too. We will see I just hope she holds it together and some good come out of all this and she find a peace of mind. " All very sad but lots of people lose loved ones in the same way only they dont all go on about it and take drugs though do they. She had a husband and has got three kids, more than what some people have got. | |||
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" She suffered depression she had this for years . She was 41 years old and she had already lost her mother and younger sister to cancer at 48 and 32 , and now her husband at 47. If Nigella did turn to painkillers or drugs at this point, all one can say is that she had an awful lot of pain to kill ....... I think she may have been covering up a lot of pain in her life. I know how it feel to lose a person so close and it's hard even after a year some days for me to cope but I have never thank god hit drugs just had family and friends there. I for one will not be put off liking her, As there always loads of sides to the stories you read and its her life.They said in the paper her husband was mad saying look at what you're doing to your body with the drugs and her face in them pics we see him mad at her was not only around her neck he was feeling around her nose on some too. We will see I just hope she holds it together and some good come out of all this and she find a peace of mind. All very sad but lots of people lose loved ones in the same way only they dont all go on about it and take drugs though do they. She had a husband and has got three kids, more than what some people have got." People are all different and around her I bet a lot of people into this and lot escaping from things that get them down people find different ways to cope and some maybe not the best things. | |||
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" She suffered depression she had this for years . She was 41 years old and she had already lost her mother and younger sister to cancer at 48 and 32 , and now her husband at 47. If Nigella did turn to painkillers or drugs at this point, all one can say is that she had an awful lot of pain to kill ....... I think she may have been covering up a lot of pain in her life. I know how it feel to lose a person so close and it's hard even after a year some days for me to cope but I have never thank god hit drugs just had family and friends there. I for one will not be put off liking her, As there always loads of sides to the stories you read and its her life.They said in the paper her husband was mad saying look at what you're doing to your body with the drugs and her face in them pics we see him mad at her was not only around her neck he was feeling around her nose on some too. We will see I just hope she holds it together and some good come out of all this and she find a peace of mind. All very sad but lots of people lose loved ones in the same way only they dont all go on about it and take drugs though do they. She had a husband and has got three kids, more than what some people have got.People are all different and around her I bet a lot of people into this and lot escaping from things that get them down people find different ways to cope and some maybe not the best things." I know people are all different, but why would i feel sorry for someone who if she didnt have so much money she wouldnt be able to afford drugs anyway and she should know better at her age. I feel more sorry for homeless people who have drink problems and a lot of people dont give a damn about them. | |||
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" She suffered depression she had this for years . She was 41 years old and she had already lost her mother and younger sister to cancer at 48 and 32 , and now her husband at 47. If Nigella did turn to painkillers or drugs at this point, all one can say is that she had an awful lot of pain to kill ....... I think she may have been covering up a lot of pain in her life. I know how it feel to lose a person so close and it's hard even after a year some days for me to cope but I have never thank god hit drugs just had family and friends there. I for one will not be put off liking her, As there always loads of sides to the stories you read and its her life.They said in the paper her husband was mad saying look at what you're doing to your body with the drugs and her face in them pics we see him mad at her was not only around her neck he was feeling around her nose on some too. We will see I just hope she holds it together and some good come out of all this and she find a peace of mind. All very sad but lots of people lose loved ones in the same way only they dont all go on about it and take drugs though do they. She had a husband and has got three kids, more than what some people have got.People are all different and around her I bet a lot of people into this and lot escaping from things that get them down people find different ways to cope and some maybe not the best things. I know people are all different, but why would i feel sorry for someone who if she didnt have so much money she wouldnt be able to afford drugs anyway and she should know better at her age. I feel more sorry for homeless people who have drink problems and a lot of people dont give a damn about them." Money don't make no difference if you have very bad depression ... Its like a very BIG black hole each day you cope with it and a lot on the outside never see just how bad you maybe feeling not sure OP if you ever had this bad as if you had you would know ..... some find it hard to just get up face the day why a lot end up doing silly things to themselves as cant cope. | |||
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" She suffered depression she had this for years . She was 41 years old and she had already lost her mother and younger sister to cancer at 48 and 32 , and now her husband at 47. If Nigella did turn to painkillers or drugs at this point, all one can say is that she had an awful lot of pain to kill ....... I think she may have been covering up a lot of pain in her life. I know how it feel to lose a person so close and it's hard even after a year some days for me to cope but I have never thank god hit drugs just had family and friends there. I for one will not be put off liking her, As there always loads of sides to the stories you read and its her life.They said in the paper her husband was mad saying look at what you're doing to your body with the drugs and her face in them pics we see him mad at her was not only around her neck he was feeling around her nose on some too. We will see I just hope she holds it together and some good come out of all this and she find a peace of mind. All very sad but lots of people lose loved ones in the same way only they dont all go on about it and take drugs though do they. She had a husband and has got three kids, more than what some people have got." | |||
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" She suffered depression she had this for years . She was 41 years old and she had already lost her mother and younger sister to cancer at 48 and 32 , and now her husband at 47. If Nigella did turn to painkillers or drugs at this point, all one can say is that she had an awful lot of pain to kill ....... I think she may have been covering up a lot of pain in her life. I know how it feel to lose a person so close and it's hard even after a year some days for me to cope but I have never thank god hit drugs just had family and friends there. I for one will not be put off liking her, As there always loads of sides to the stories you read and its her life.They said in the paper her husband was mad saying look at what you're doing to your body with the drugs and her face in them pics we see him mad at her was not only around her neck he was feeling around her nose on some too. We will see I just hope she holds it together and some good come out of all this and she find a peace of mind. All very sad but lots of people lose loved ones in the same way only they dont all go on about it and take drugs though do they. She had a husband and has got three kids, more than what some people have got.People are all different and around her I bet a lot of people into this and lot escaping from things that get them down people find different ways to cope and some maybe not the best things. I know people are all different, but why would i feel sorry for someone who if she didnt have so much money she wouldnt be able to afford drugs anyway and she should know better at her age. I feel more sorry for homeless people who have drink problems and a lot of people dont give a damn about them." | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. " you are aware these are allegations being made by two sisters who worked for her ex husband who are currently in court charged with theft by deception and fraud. they claim that nigella said they could spend monies in Louis vuiton etc as long as they didn't tell ex husband she had a drug addict. and the sun rag makes it front page news. she lost her ex husband (john diamond) to cancer raised two kids and ended getting assaulted by that Saatchi prick and now this comes out from the court room. | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. you are aware these are allegations being made by two sisters who worked for her ex husband who are currently in court charged with theft by deception and fraud. they claim that nigella said they could spend monies in Louis vuiton etc as long as they didn't tell ex husband she had a drug addict. and the sun rag makes it front page news. she lost her ex husband (john diamond) to cancer raised two kids and ended getting assaulted by that Saatchi prick and now this comes out from the court room." not just in the sun though was it. | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. you are aware these are allegations being made by two sisters who worked for her ex husband who are currently in court charged with theft by deception and fraud. they claim that nigella said they could spend monies in Louis vuiton etc as long as they didn't tell ex husband she had a drug addict. and the sun rag makes it front page news. she lost her ex husband (john diamond) to cancer raised two kids and ended getting assaulted by that Saatchi prick and now this comes out from the court room. not just in the sun though was it." my point is that what you have insinuated is not proven fact and you base this on the evidence of two women charged with fraud and theft by deception, perhaps they might be saying this hoping to avert the gaze away from them. i just wonder if the sun will publish the headline on the front page if the story is untrue my bets is they don't. | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. you are aware these are allegations being made by two sisters who worked for her ex husband who are currently in court charged with theft by deception and fraud. they claim that nigella said they could spend monies in Louis vuiton etc as long as they didn't tell ex husband she had a drug addict. and the sun rag makes it front page news. she lost her ex husband (john diamond) to cancer raised two kids and ended getting assaulted by that Saatchi prick and now this comes out from the court room. not just in the sun though was it. my point is that what you have insinuated is not proven fact and you base this on the evidence of two women charged with fraud and theft by deception, perhaps they might be saying this hoping to avert the gaze away from them. i just wonder if the sun will publish the headline on the front page if the story is untrue my bets is they don't." Not just in the sun, it was front page of all the papers and on the news. | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. you are aware these are allegations being made by two sisters who worked for her ex husband who are currently in court charged with theft by deception and fraud. they claim that nigella said they could spend monies in Louis vuiton etc as long as they didn't tell ex husband she had a drug addict. and the sun rag makes it front page news. she lost her ex husband (john diamond) to cancer raised two kids and ended getting assaulted by that Saatchi prick and now this comes out from the court room. not just in the sun though was it. my point is that what you have insinuated is not proven fact and you base this on the evidence of two women charged with fraud and theft by deception, perhaps they might be saying this hoping to avert the gaze away from them. i just wonder if the sun will publish the headline on the front page if the story is untrue my bets is they don't. Not just in the sun, it was front page of all the papers and on the news." so do you believe that she is a drug addict and that these women are telling the truth | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. you are aware these are allegations being made by two sisters who worked for her ex husband who are currently in court charged with theft by deception and fraud. they claim that nigella said they could spend monies in Louis vuiton etc as long as they didn't tell ex husband she had a drug addict. and the sun rag makes it front page news. she lost her ex husband (john diamond) to cancer raised two kids and ended getting assaulted by that Saatchi prick and now this comes out from the court room. not just in the sun though was it. my point is that what you have insinuated is not proven fact and you base this on the evidence of two women charged with fraud and theft by deception, perhaps they might be saying this hoping to avert the gaze away from them. i just wonder if the sun will publish the headline on the front page if the story is untrue my bets is they don't. Not just in the sun, it was front page of all the papers and on the news. so do you believe that she is a drug addict and that these women are telling the truth " Yes it is possible. | |||
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"On the front pages of all the newspapers, nigela has a drug problem it seems. Not such the innocent victim after all, well theirs a surprise. you are aware these are allegations being made by two sisters who worked for her ex husband who are currently in court charged with theft by deception and fraud. they claim that nigella said they could spend monies in Louis vuiton etc as long as they didn't tell ex husband she had a drug addict. and the sun rag makes it front page news. she lost her ex husband (john diamond) to cancer raised two kids and ended getting assaulted by that Saatchi prick and now this comes out from the court room. not just in the sun though was it. my point is that what you have insinuated is not proven fact and you base this on the evidence of two women charged with fraud and theft by deception, perhaps they might be saying this hoping to avert the gaze away from them. i just wonder if the sun will publish the headline on the front page if the story is untrue my bets is they don't. Not just in the sun, it was front page of all the papers and on the news. so do you believe that she is a drug addict and that these women are telling the truth Yes it is possible." everything is possible however i don't think its wise to post unfounded allegations because we are innocent till proven guilty in this country. | |||
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"So OP you believe everything you read in the papers? Her innocence or otherwise does not excuse any physical or mental abuse aimed at her. Don't you agree? " No i dont believe everything i read in the papers do you? | |||
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"Does it matter if she had a drug problem? Does it make her achievement in life any less? I fail to see how this news is relevant to anything. It's not like she told us to bake crack into our mince pies is it??" i only look at nigellas crack when i bake her pies lol x | |||
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"Does it matter if she had a drug problem? Does it make her achievement in life any less? I fail to see how this news is relevant to anything. It's not like she told us to bake crack into our mince pies is it?? i only look at nigellas crack when i bake her pies lol x " Doesnt matter how much you say how good she looks though, you still wont get to shag her. | |||
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"Does it matter if she had a drug problem? Does it make her achievement in life any less? I fail to see how this news is relevant to anything. It's not like she told us to bake crack into our mince pies is it?? i only look at nigellas crack when i bake her pies lol x Doesnt matter how much you say how good she looks though, you still wont get to shag her. " :- its no different to many of the women on here lol x | |||
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"Does it matter if she had a drug problem? Does it make her achievement in life any less? I fail to see how this news is relevant to anything. It's not like she told us to bake crack into our mince pies is it?? i only look at nigellas crack when i bake her pies lol x Doesnt matter how much you say how good she looks though, you still wont get to shag her. :- its no different to many of the women on here lol x " as i won't get to shag them | |||
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"This has all been bubbling around for ages. I advise you to search google for Richard hillgrove blog lawson Now that really opens a can of worms" i will however is any of it proven facts or just hearsay | |||
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"This has all been bubbling around for ages. I advise you to search google for Richard hillgrove blog lawson Now that really opens a can of worms i will however is any of it proven facts or just hearsay " Richard hillgrove independent PR consultant, however he once worked for who ? i believe he has been issued with the threat of libel over his blog (the guardian,2013) | |||
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"One is an ex-advertising executive whose propaganda is widely considered instrumental in bringing the tories into power at the end of the seventies, giving us the hideous age of Thatcherism, the other is the daughter of a Chancellor in Thatcher's cabinet, who now appears on television employing tired double-entendres and saucy facial expressions whilst making indulgent tidbits for fake friends in a fake kitchen. (Bitter, moi?) I'm very happy for their lives to implode away from my gaze. " i thought you didn't care when really your all heart | |||
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"One is an ex-advertising executive whose propaganda is widely considered instrumental in bringing the tories into power at the end of the seventies, giving us the hideous age of Thatcherism, the other is the daughter of a Chancellor in Thatcher's cabinet, who now appears on television employing tired double-entendres and saucy facial expressions whilst making indulgent tidbits for fake friends in a fake kitchen. (Bitter, moi?) I'm very happy for their lives to implode away from my gaze. " | |||
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"Im not for one minute condoning his actions...but have you lived with someone with a drug addiction...they drive you scatty and insane and push you to your absolute limits, I could have quite easily been driven to commit murder with an ex of mine and his stupidity and lack of awareness of his actions " Yes and its not the sort of stress an old man needs. | |||
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"Im not for one minute condoning his actions...but have you lived with someone with a drug addiction...they drive you scatty and insane and push you to your absolute limits, I could have quite easily been driven to commit murder with an ex of mine and his stupidity and lack of awareness of his actions " That's if she even had a drug problem. | |||
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"Im not for one minute condoning his actions...but have you lived with someone with a drug addiction...they drive you scatty and insane and push you to your absolute limits, I could have quite easily been driven to commit murder with an ex of mine and his stupidity and lack of awareness of his actions " This is the most sensible post on this thread. Been there, done that. It was a nightmare. On the other hand I've heard that Nigella is really missing him. She was heard sobbing "Where's my fucking Charlie?" | |||
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"When you make your living in the public eye, you will always be scrutinised, She is good at what she does, that means lots of people will be jealous, yes she has a privileged back ground and when you have money, you have temptation. Nothing new under the sun, except now the internet." I for one am not jealous. I see a woman who need some help and real friends and this will sort them out .. real friends will stand by her side and other will run . | |||
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"When you make your living in the public eye, you will always be scrutinised, She is good at what she does, that means lots of people will be jealous, yes she has a privileged back ground and when you have money, you have temptation. Nothing new under the sun, except now the internet." Some people will be jealous, just because you dont like someone doesnt always mean you are jealous. | |||
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"Drug habit or not she doesn't deserve to be physically abused in public, no one does. I agree. Just coz she likes to skin up occasionally (yes I realise it's probably something more classy in her case) doesn't mean the gutter press should hound her or her bloke should hit her. I know little of her but, typical for a man I suppose, enjoy the pictures of her mouth with some piece of food entering it. Not very closely concealed that it's representative of her giving a BJ " Wasnt enough to keep her rich hubby happy though was it. See he has got a fitter looking bird now, trinny, much slimmer and classier too. | |||
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"Drug habit or not she doesn't deserve to be physically abused in public, no one does. I agree. Just coz she likes to skin up occasionally (yes I realise it's probably something more classy in her case) doesn't mean the gutter press should hound her or her bloke should hit her. I know little of her but, typical for a man I suppose, enjoy the pictures of her mouth with some piece of food entering it. Not very closely concealed that it's representative of her giving a BJ Wasnt enough to keep her rich hubby happy though was it. See he has got a fitter looking bird now, trinny, much slimmer and classier too. " Call me a cynic, but are you deliberately baiting? | |||
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"Drug habit or not she doesn't deserve to be physically abused in public, no one does. I agree. Just coz she likes to skin up occasionally (yes I realise it's probably something more classy in her case) doesn't mean the gutter press should hound her or her bloke should hit her. I know little of her but, typical for a man I suppose, enjoy the pictures of her mouth with some piece of food entering it. Not very closely concealed that it's representative of her giving a BJ Wasnt enough to keep her rich hubby happy though was it. See he has got a fitter looking bird now, trinny, much slimmer and classier too. " Trinny is no Angel . | |||
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"Drug habit or not she doesn't deserve to be physically abused in public, no one does. I agree. Just coz she likes to skin up occasionally (yes I realise it's probably something more classy in her case) doesn't mean the gutter press should hound her or her bloke should hit her. I know little of her but, typical for a man I suppose, enjoy the pictures of her mouth with some piece of food entering it. Not very closely concealed that it's representative of her giving a BJ Wasnt enough to keep her rich hubby happy though was it. See he has got a fitter looking bird now, trinny, much slimmer and classier too. Call me a cynic, but are you deliberately baiting?" No, i just speak my mind, and why not. | |||
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"Drug habit or not she doesn't deserve to be physically abused in public, no one does. I agree. Just coz she likes to skin up occasionally (yes I realise it's probably something more classy in her case) doesn't mean the gutter press should hound her or her bloke should hit her. I know little of her but, typical for a man I suppose, enjoy the pictures of her mouth with some piece of food entering it. Not very closely concealed that it's representative of her giving a BJ Wasnt enough to keep her rich hubby happy though was it. See he has got a fitter looking bird now, trinny, much slimmer and classier too. Call me a cynic, but are you deliberately baiting? No, i just speak my mind, and why not. " I merely asked a question, I asked it after reading the thread, you gave me your answer....why not indeed. | |||
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"there is certainly an element of the green eyed monster with some in this thread.. a sort of nasty gloating with a bit of 'its ok when some bloke has his hands around a womans throat'.. cos I don't like her.. hey ho.. " yes I think you're right. Gloating not heard that word for years. | |||
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"there is certainly an element of the green eyed monster with some in this thread.. a sort of nasty gloating with a bit of 'its ok when some bloke has his hands around a womans throat'.. cos I don't like her.. hey ho.. " No its not because i dont like her, i just dont see what all the fuss is about, making him out to be a monster just because he had his hands round her throat. | |||
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"Drug habit or not she doesn't deserve to be physically abused in public, no one does." | |||
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"there is certainly an element of the green eyed monster with some in this thread.. a sort of nasty gloating with a bit of 'its ok when some bloke has his hands around a womans throat'.. cos I don't like her.. hey ho.. No its not because i dont like her, i just dont see what all the fuss is about, making him out to be a monster just because he had his hands round her throat." so you would be happy to be treated that way, even once..? or your children..? | |||
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"there is certainly an element of the green eyed monster with some in this thread.. a sort of nasty gloating with a bit of 'its ok when some bloke has his hands around a womans throat'.. cos I don't like her.. hey ho.. No its not because i dont like her, i just dont see what all the fuss is about, making him out to be a monster just because he had his hands round her throat." So you saying it's ok for him to do that then and nobody should think anything of it ? | |||
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"there is certainly an element of the green eyed monster with some in this thread.. a sort of nasty gloating with a bit of 'its ok when some bloke has his hands around a womans throat'.. cos I don't like her.. hey ho.. No its not because i dont like her, i just dont see what all the fuss is about, making him out to be a monster just because he had his hands round her throat. so you would be happy to be treated that way, even once..? or your children..? " Not my children no way. But havnt you and your partner ever got a bit rough and nasty once or twice. I dont mean leaving lots of bruises or braking bones, or people can say very cruel things sometimes in the heat of the moment, only the rest of the time you get on ok maybe. | |||
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"So you saying it's ok for him to do that then and nobody should think anything of it ? Again - it could have been a kinky moment. You only see a snapshot, not the whole story. Misinterpretation is rife in the media." However I look at it I still think it was totally wrong for it to have been done in public. | |||
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"So you saying it's ok for him to do that then and nobody should think anything of it ? Again - it could have been a kinky moment. You only see a snapshot, not the whole story. Misinterpretation is rife in the media. However I look at it I still think it was totally wrong for it to have been done in public. " We all make mistakes. | |||
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" No its not because i dont like her, i just dont see what all the fuss is about, making him out to be a monster just because he had his hands round her throat. so you would be happy to be treated that way, even once..? or your children..? Not my children no way. But havnt you and your partner ever got a bit rough and nasty once or twice. I dont mean leaving lots of bruises or braking bones, or people can say very cruel things sometimes in the heat of the moment, only the rest of the time you get on ok maybe." using your own conclusion 'what's the fuss' if some bloke put his hand on your childs throat..? lost our tempers with each other yes, never raised a hand though.. not in 30 yrs.. the neck is a very sensitive area, you grab someone there you can do serious damage.. don't buy the line that this was anything other than him losing control.. still stand by my opinion that it probably wasn't the first time, but that's just an opinion.. whatever it was it was wrong and the picture, whomever took it tells a thousand words.. | |||
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" No its not because i dont like her, i just dont see what all the fuss is about, making him out to be a monster just because he had his hands round her throat. so you would be happy to be treated that way, even once..? or your children..? Not my children no way. But havnt you and your partner ever got a bit rough and nasty once or twice. I dont mean leaving lots of bruises or braking bones, or people can say very cruel things sometimes in the heat of the moment, only the rest of the time you get on ok maybe. using your own conclusion 'what's the fuss' if some bloke put his hand on your childs throat..? lost our tempers with each other yes, never raised a hand though.. not in 30 yrs.. the neck is a very sensitive area, you grab someone there you can do serious damage.. don't buy the line that this was anything other than him losing control.. still stand by my opinion that it probably wasn't the first time, but that's just an opinion.. whatever it was it was wrong and the picture, whomever took it tells a thousand words.. " Head and brick wall springs to my mind | |||
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" No its not because i dont like her, i just dont see what all the fuss is about, making him out to be a monster just because he had his hands round her throat. so you would be happy to be treated that way, even once..? or your children..? Not my children no way. But havnt you and your partner ever got a bit rough and nasty once or twice. I dont mean leaving lots of bruises or braking bones, or people can say very cruel things sometimes in the heat of the moment, only the rest of the time you get on ok maybe. using your own conclusion 'what's the fuss' if some bloke put his hand on your childs throat..? lost our tempers with each other yes, never raised a hand though.. not in 30 yrs.. the neck is a very sensitive area, you grab someone there you can do serious damage.. don't buy the line that this was anything other than him losing control.. still stand by my opinion that it probably wasn't the first time, but that's just an opinion.. whatever it was it was wrong and the picture, whomever took it tells a thousand words.. Head and brick wall springs to my mind " Cocaine users can be unpredictably violent and have been known to bite at the faces of people when out of control. The only way to prevent being bitten without backing off is to place one hand at their neck - that way they can't jump forwards or bite downwards. I'm not saying that this is the case here, but the possibility exists. In the pictures I've seen he only uses one hand and his fingers don't appear to be digging into flesh. DV is not acceptable but self-defence is. That's one of the many reasons why cocaine is a dangerous and illegal drug. Again, not saying that's the case here, but suggesting a possible scenario. | |||
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" No its not because i dont like her, i just dont see what all the fuss is about, making him out to be a monster just because he had his hands round her throat. so you would be happy to be treated that way, even once..? or your children..? Not my children no way. But havnt you and your partner ever got a bit rough and nasty once or twice. I dont mean leaving lots of bruises or braking bones, or people can say very cruel things sometimes in the heat of the moment, only the rest of the time you get on ok maybe. using your own conclusion 'what's the fuss' if some bloke put his hand on your childs throat..? lost our tempers with each other yes, never raised a hand though.. not in 30 yrs.. the neck is a very sensitive area, you grab someone there you can do serious damage.. don't buy the line that this was anything other than him losing control.. still stand by my opinion that it probably wasn't the first time, but that's just an opinion.. whatever it was it was wrong and the picture, whomever took it tells a thousand words.. " And it just wasn't a second snapshot in time the paps caught the whole argument leading up to the hands round the throat and afterwards too not to mention witnesses, all freely available via google, this was not kinky play it was a row and DV, regardless as to whether she has a drug problem it does not excuse that. | |||
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" Cocaine users can be unpredictably violent and have been known to bite at the faces of people when out of control. The only way to prevent being bitten without backing off is to place one hand at their neck - that way they can't jump forwards or bite downwards. I'm not saying that this is the case here, but the possibility exists. In the pictures I've seen he only uses one hand and his fingers don't appear to be digging into flesh. DV is not acceptable but self-defence is. That's one of the many reasons why cocaine is a dangerous and illegal drug. Again, not saying that's the case here, but suggesting a possible scenario." care to point me to where that technique to restrain someone is used or taught..? even in acute psychiatric where some service users are what used to be termed 'criminally insane' that is not accepted practise under control and restraint.. | |||
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" No its not because i dont like her, i just dont see what all the fuss is about, making him out to be a monster just because he had his hands round her throat. so you would be happy to be treated that way, even once..? or your children..? Not my children no way. But havnt you and your partner ever got a bit rough and nasty once or twice. I dont mean leaving lots of bruises or braking bones, or people can say very cruel things sometimes in the heat of the moment, only the rest of the time you get on ok maybe. using your own conclusion 'what's the fuss' if some bloke put his hand on your childs throat..? lost our tempers with each other yes, never raised a hand though.. not in 30 yrs.. the neck is a very sensitive area, you grab someone there you can do serious damage.. don't buy the line that this was anything other than him losing control.. still stand by my opinion that it probably wasn't the first time, but that's just an opinion.. whatever it was it was wrong and the picture, whomever took it tells a thousand words.. Head and brick wall springs to my mind Cocaine users can be unpredictably violent and have been known to bite at the faces of people when out of control. The only way to prevent being bitten without backing off is to place one hand at their neck - that way they can't jump forwards or bite downwards. I'm not saying that this is the case here, but the possibility exists. In the pictures I've seen he only uses one hand and his fingers don't appear to be digging into flesh. DV is not acceptable but self-defence is. That's one of the many reasons why cocaine is a dangerous and illegal drug. Again, not saying that's the case here, but suggesting a possible scenario." Next time I end up in a scrap I'm gonna use this technique and claim self defence after I've choked them to death! | |||
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" No its not because i dont like her, i just dont see what all the fuss is about, making him out to be a monster just because he had his hands round her throat. so you would be happy to be treated that way, even once..? or your children..? Not my children no way. But havnt you and your partner ever got a bit rough and nasty once or twice. I dont mean leaving lots of bruises or braking bones, or people can say very cruel things sometimes in the heat of the moment, only the rest of the time you get on ok maybe. using your own conclusion 'what's the fuss' if some bloke put his hand on your childs throat..? lost our tempers with each other yes, never raised a hand though.. not in 30 yrs.. the neck is a very sensitive area, you grab someone there you can do serious damage.. don't buy the line that this was anything other than him losing control.. still stand by my opinion that it probably wasn't the first time, but that's just an opinion.. whatever it was it was wrong and the picture, whomever took it tells a thousand words.. Head and brick wall springs to my mind Cocaine users can be unpredictably violent and have been known to bite at the faces of people when out of control. The only way to prevent being bitten without backing off is to place one hand at their neck - that way they can't jump forwards or bite downwards. I'm not saying that this is the case here, but the possibility exists. In the pictures I've seen he only uses one hand and his fingers don't appear to be digging into flesh. DV is not acceptable but self-defence is. That's one of the many reasons why cocaine is a dangerous and illegal drug. Again, not saying that's the case here, but suggesting a possible scenario." sorry have i read this correctly because you post seems to insinuate that she was high on cocaine and he was acting in self defence. just to get this into perspective the drug abuse claims come from two sources one of which forms part of the defence of two sisters (PA's) who are standing trial from theft and fraud by deception and the second source comes from a personal blog written by another ex employee who was sacked who runs his own PR firm and who in the past as worked with or for her ex. for everyone likes or dislikes her as far as the law is concerned it matters not one jot who you are. in this country you are innocent until proven guilty and trial by media or by electronic means is frankly distasteful. | |||
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" ............ for everyone likes or dislikes her as far as the law is concerned it matters not one jot who you are. ................. " If only that were true. | |||
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