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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

...It's (some of!) the single women and couples.

The sense of entitlement of some women and couples is astounding. If single men dare to state their preferences, some women have a hissy fit if they are excluded.

People say they aren't meeting yet they still have their pics and profile on display... because they would feel unloved if they stopped getting mail?!

Some women and couples moan that they get abuse when they reply to single guys. Yet they are abusive to the single guys... how is that fair?!

Sometimes it's not the other person that's the problem... sometimes you have to look at how (dis)respectful you are to other people....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"...It's (some of!) the single women and couples.

The sense of entitlement of some women and couples is astounding. If single men dare to state their preferences, some women have a hissy fit if they are excluded.

People say they aren't meeting yet they still have their pics and profile on display... because they would feel unloved if they stopped getting mail?!

Some women and couples moan that they get abuse when they reply to single guys. Yet they are abusive to the single guys... how is that fair?!

Sometimes it's not the other person that's the problem... sometimes you have to look at how (dis)respectful you are to other people....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dude, I couldn't put it better myself.

The amount of profiles I read from couples winking me.?"we are very fussy and decide who we talk to and when. If you get invited over consider yourself lucky. We don't send pictures"....

Hang on.... I'm a single guy so I should feel privledged? Some girl with her burger nips out and her fbs face blurred thinking that I'm lucky to even chat to them.... Please... Some couples should be grateful that 'single guys' are interested in them!

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By *lackCherryCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

The truth actually is there is a percentage of every demographic who are idiots (F, MF, MM, M, TV), but as there are probably 10 men to every other thing on here then the problems are exasperated by desperation and pure numbers.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The truth actually is there is a percentage of every demographic who are idiots (F, MF, MM, M, TV), but as there are probably 10 men to every other thing on here then the problems are exasperated by desperation and pure numbers.

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Good point.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Superram he say, when you point the finger of blame at someone else, 3 fingers are pointing back at yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yeah its amazing how fantastic people can think they are, but if thats what they want, I can't be arsed to entertain them either, but no hate either way.

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

Hahaha, I am so glad to have seen this thread! as far as the shoe being on the foot, I feel one good turn deserves another.

I for one am tired of "single guys that don't know how to be have at clubs" rant threads, yet male have of some couples jumping in like they've been starved of all the single women they can get their hands on. correction.. make that ANY women! You see them grabbing and groping, yet when given "the look" their go-to response is "But we're a couple", as though being a couple makes it okay to grope a stranger.. yes, even in a swingers cub... when roles reversed any single guy that did that to their partner would be met with the same!

And whats with some couples that on the one hand don't accept "cold" friend invites (ie, no preeceding message to a stranger) yet send the same "cold" friend invites, and when the invite isn't accepted only then send a snotty "since you didn't accept our invite, we won't meet you" email?

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By *lackCherryCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"

Good point. "

The big issues is that of supply and demand, if you can get WHATEVER you want then why would you not and given the numbers involved here when it comes to single men there can be any sort of demand placed on them you can imagine and there will be SOME who meet it or are desperate enough to do whats required.

but there are idiots everywhere more people = more idiots.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"...It's (some of!) the single women and couples.

The sense of entitlement of some women and couples is astounding. If single men dare to state their preferences, some women have a hissy fit if they are excluded.

People say they aren't meeting yet they still have their pics and profile on display... because they would feel unloved if they stopped getting mail?!

Some women and couples moan that they get abuse when they reply to single guys. Yet they are abusive to the single guys... how is that fair?!

Sometimes it's not the other person that's the problem... sometimes you have to look at how (dis)respectful you are to other people....

"

So let me get this straight, none, not a single one, of the single men on this site ever behaves in a less than stellar fashion, yet some of the women and couples do?

None of the men, at all, have a sense of entitlement? None are arrogant and complain when they have to make an effort?

I rarely converse with women and couples so my personal experience is of non-ideal behaviour from some men. However, from what I have heard and seen, and some knowledge of human nature, I think it likely there are some issues with some people across all categories.

Women and couples tend to get shouted down less when complaining about it though.

I don't think I'd want to be a single man on here.

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By *ighland_RoseCouple
over a year ago

Brigadoon


"Dude, I couldn't put it better myself.

The amount of profiles I read from couples winking me.?"we are very fussy and decide who we talk to and when. If you get invited over consider yourself lucky. We don't send pictures"....

Hang on.... I'm a single guy so I should feel privledged? Some girl with her burger nips out and her fbs face blurred thinking that I'm lucky to even chat to them.... Please... Some couples should be grateful that 'single guys' are interested in them!"

What are burger nips?

I do have to agree with some of the things the OP has said. Some profiles are awful in their arrogance. I understand that people get red up after a time but they should just take a step back and breathe! If my profile every became so disdainful I hope I would recognise it and just leave the site for a while and come back with a fresh attitude.

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By *ighland_RoseCouple
over a year ago

Brigadoon


"Dude, I couldn't put it better myself.

The amount of profiles I read from couples winking me.?"we are very fussy and decide who we talk to and when. If you get invited over consider yourself lucky. We don't send pictures"....

Hang on.... I'm a single guy so I should feel privledged? Some girl with her burger nips out and her fbs face blurred thinking that I'm lucky to even chat to them.... Please... Some couples should be grateful that 'single guys' are interested in them!

What are burger nips?

I do have to agree with some of the things the OP has said. Some profiles are awful in their arrogance. I understand that people get red up after a time but they should just take a step back and breathe! If my profile every became so disdainful I hope I would recognise it and just leave the site for a while and come back with a fresh attitude."

correction: fed up not red up

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By *lackCherryCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Hahaha, I am so glad to have seen this thread! as far as the shoe being on the foot, I feel one good turn deserves another.

I for one am tired of "single guys that don't know how to be have at clubs" rant threads, yet male have of some couples jumping in like they've been starved of all the single women they can get their hands on. correction.. make that ANY women! You see them grabbing and groping, yet when given "the look" their go-to response is "But we're a couple", as though being a couple makes it okay to grope a stranger.. yes, even in a swingers cub... when roles reversed any single guy that did that to their partner would be met with the same!

And whats with some couples that on the one hand don't accept "cold" friend invites (ie, no preeceding message to a stranger) yet send the same "cold" friend invites, and when the invite isn't accepted only then send a snotty "since you didn't accept our invite, we won't meet you" email?"

So to summise there are lots of people who act like dicks ??

I have seen single women in clubs groping people without warning thinking being a single female gives them an excuse too.

I have seen a couple groping a passed out woman at a club.

I have seen and been involved in few incidents of single guys who just cannot take no for an answer as well, from groping Mrs C, to walking in on us in a locked play room and trying to join in.

There are bad people in the world and they are not all consigned to one area of swinging.

There are 10x as many single guys though so its quite easy to forget the above because the ratio of couple/fem idiots to male idiots follows the above ratio quite well

ie for every 10 idiot men we get 1 female or couple whos a bit of an idiot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just huge nipples lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All I or we want is respect, why should I tell the single guys to stay away? I guess I'm a bit lost with this one...I do see it often, I'll talk to anyone who shows me respect and can actually hold convo, all I ask is that they not be pushy or pic collectors...we all have preferences, but I've met some really nice single guys, there is the occasional overbearing one but I tell them what they are saying or doing to turn me off and that's that!

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex


"So to summise there are lots of people who act like dicks ??"

Absolutely


"There are bad people in the world and they are not all consigned to one area of swinging."

Couldn't agree more, don't ge tme wrong - the problem is the way some posts have a weekly (in some cases, daily) update on the "single men bad - lets bash them" approach, anyone could be forgiven that "single men = everything wrong with swinging"

As one couple suggested on a thread not too long ago, they did't understand what purpose single men served in clubs anyway... and proceeded to welcome as many single women to "couples only" nights with a cheeky "I'm sure our men will manage" quip. Talk about a sense of entitlement!

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By *lackshadow7Man
over a year ago

Toronto

A few people have brought up the sense of entitlement some show on the site via their profiles and interactions. I'm glad it was brought up, as in general, it is one of the single most off putting traits on display here.

I'm not moaning about preferences (for those who will inevitably miss the point).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get it being harder to swing with a single guy, and people can feel safer with a couple...in that aspect...and also I guess the feelings that could Potentially be involved single guys falling for they couple etc...it's all starting to make more sense lol but essentially we all want to have a good time...makes me think about how high the cost for a single guy is than a girl or couple... So maybe like other things some singles are ruining for others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm glad it's not just me then! I find some profiles frustrating in their perceived entitlement. I'm not interested in gay or bi men or TV/TS but I don't feel the need to bash them in print on my profile.

It's also entirely possible the single bashing puts off the genuine people but probably acts as no deterrent to the weirdos. Karma perhaps

Anyway back to the beach for me now

Ps Snappo does have great tits doesn't he!!

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"yeah its amazing how fantastic people can think they are, but if thats what they want, I can't be arsed to entertain them either, but no hate either way."

But I am fantastic, darlings....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All swings and round-a-bouts.

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By *ighland_RoseCouple
over a year ago

Brigadoon


"I'm glad it's not just me then! I find some profiles frustrating in their perceived entitlement. I'm not interested in gay or bi men or TV/TS but I don't feel the need to bash them in print on my profile.

It's also entirely possible the single bashing puts off the genuine people but probably acts as no deterrent to the weirdos. Karma perhaps

Anyway back to the beach for me now

Ps Snappo does have great tits doesn't he!!"

Yes he does, but don't tell him, he's shy!

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By *ovelybumCouple
over a year ago

Tunbridge Wells

You can check our thread "single guys " for our opinion.

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By *eareenaCouple
over a year ago

Rockford

People say they aren't meeting yet they still have their pics and profile on display... because they would feel unloved if they stopped getting mail?!

What a ridiculous assumption. I have many many friends I meet on fab just not looking for new meets but still want to chat and share pics with existing friends. I am sure many many people on fab are in the same position so this assumption is not very fair.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

I only meet single men,if they were as foul as some make them out to be there wouldn't be any straight single women on site at all!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Woah good post

Couldn't agree more actually

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Woah good post

Couldn't agree more actually "

Now don't all make a rash judgement on me ..... I may not be telling the truth hese

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I haven't really come across such problems with a couples profile, there have however been some over demanding women on here who seem to think that just because the ratio of females to males is in their favour that they can treat men like shit, expecting him to make all the effort with no compromise and still have them crawling on their hands and knees for the V.

Just because I don't have sex on tap doesn't mean I'm prepared to stomach disrespectful behaviour in order to get my oats

KnowwhatImsayin'?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I haven't really come across such problems with a couples profile, there have however been some over demanding women on here who seem to think that just because the ratio of females to males is in their favour that they can treat men like shit, expecting him to make all the effort with no compromise and still have them crawling on their hands and knees for the V.

Just because I don't have sex on tap doesn't mean I'm prepared to stomach disrespectful behaviour in order to get my oats

KnowwhatImsayin'?"

I say 'some' I mean I've come across two or three people maximum like that, there's a lot of lovely people on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I think too many people on this site like to sit back and judge others.

We all have a role to play in the swinging society.

Some will want a mmf - therefore welcome single males. And to be fair some single males need couples to fulfill their 3some fantasy.

Some will want a ffm - therefore welcome single females. And again females will want couples for this fantasy.

Some singles will want another single.

Some couples will want couples only.

I know what I like, and I know what evie likes, therefore we just pass the profiles by that don't suit us. It's pretty easy to do really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Feeling the love girls I like it. I know alot of people on hear give single men no chance before they even start. So its harder for us guys. But for the genuine people looking its good to hear us in a more positive note. And not sure which I fall into.but my jokes and fooling around on forums is just lighthearted fun. I really am a nice guy and made alot of very good friends on here. Big love to all you fellow fabbers.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

There are people everywhere that have their head so far up their own arse they can smell their own shit...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I haven't really come across such problems with a couples profile, there have however been some over demanding women on here who seem to think that just because the ratio of females to males is in their favour that they can treat men like shit, expecting him to make all the effort with no compromise and still have them crawling on their hands and knees for the V.

Just because I don't have sex on tap doesn't mean I'm prepared to stomach disrespectful behaviour in order to get my oats

KnowwhatImsayin'?"

Then pass them by. There's plenty that don't act like that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are people everywhere that have their head so far up their own arse they can smell their own shit... "

I'm not flexible enough. But with the help of yoga I will do it one day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are people everywhere that have their head so far up their own arse they can smell their own shit... "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Personally I haven't really come across such problems with a couples profile, there have however been some over demanding women on here who seem to think that just because the ratio of females to males is in their favour that they can treat men like shit, expecting him to make all the effort with no compromise and still have them crawling on their hands and knees for the V.

Just because I don't have sex on tap doesn't mean I'm prepared to stomach disrespectful behaviour in order to get my oats

KnowwhatImsayin'?

I say 'some' I mean I've come across two or three people maximum like that, there's a lot of lovely people on here"

I totally agree. Obviously I don't mean ALL single womwn and couples are to blame, neither do I mean ALL single guys are saints. Because that's not true. I just wanted to put a point across.

I find interesting that you came back to clarify. You know that some people on here get pissed off at the slightest thing. No doubt I'll have been slated in some people's minds for this thread.

However there's more to people than just one opinion. I'm not so closed minded....

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

it's all a big melting pot.......

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"People say they aren't meeting yet they still have their pics and profile on display... because they would feel unloved if they stopped getting mail?!

What a ridiculous assumption. I have many many friends I meet on fab just not looking for new meets but still want to chat and share pics with existing friends. I am sure many many people on fab are in the same position so this assumption is not very fair."

I wasn't assuming anything, it was a question more than anything.

There are many profile options, people use them differently. There are options for friend's only pics. People can send pics in mail. Options to hide profiles, filters etc.

If I wanted to take a break I wouldn't leave a massive wordy profile and loads of pics on full _iew, with a teeny tiny disclaimer saying 'not meeting'.

Some would though... I find that interesting...........

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By *opping_candyWoman
over a year ago

West Yorkshire

I'm one of the people not meeting (as such) at the moment but haven't hidden my profile. I DID hide my profile but found that I still got messages, from people who had no idea what my preferences were because they had no profile to look at. And then I felt obliged to explain that I wasn't looking at the moment etc. So it seemed easier to have that information clear as day for all to see.

I have had abusive replies but I'm not rude when I turn someone down, I'll either say I'm not free, not looking for a meet or just no thankyou. I hate confrontation so not going to tempt it by being a bitch.

As for entitlement - I don't get in a mood if someone's preferences exclude me, what's the point?

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Personally I haven't really come across such problems with a couples profile, there have however been some over demanding women on here who seem to think that just because the ratio of females to males is in their favour that they can treat men like shit, expecting him to make all the effort with no compromise and still have them crawling on their hands and knees for the V.

Just because I don't have sex on tap doesn't mean I'm prepared to stomach disrespectful behaviour in order to get my oats

KnowwhatImsayin'?"

Question: Why do some women act like divas?

Answer: Because some men are desperate, stupid, low on self respect enough to jump through hoops for the chance of pussy.

If the response to these women was "do one!" there'd be swift attitude adjustment, but when pussy is on offer some men plumb lose their mind!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Question: Why do some women act like divas?

Answer: Because some men are desperate, stupid, low on self respect enough to jump through hoops for the chance of pussy.

If the response to these women was "do one!" there'd be swift attitude adjustment, but when pussy is on offer some men plumb lose their mind! "

In the face of such perspicacity, erudition and inciteful utilisation of the qualificatative "some".... I can only concur whole heartedly with learned counsel....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

People say they aren't meeting yet they still have their pics and profile on display... because they would feel unloved if they stopped getting mail?!

"

Some need fab to function.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is so right and about time someone said so

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

All the decent guys on this and every other swingers site should get down on their knees and thank *insert diety of choice here* for the idiots.

It makes the good guys stand out like a sore thumb

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"...It's (some of!) the single women and couples.

The sense of entitlement of some women and couples is astounding. If single men dare to state their preferences, some women have a hissy fit if they are excluded.

People say they aren't meeting yet they still have their pics and profile on display... because they would feel unloved if they stopped getting mail?!

Some women and couples moan that they get abuse when they reply to single guys. Yet they are abusive to the single guys... how is that fair?!

Sometimes it's not the other person that's the problem... sometimes you have to look at how (dis)respectful you are to other people....

"

BIG YES!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In glad I'm getting out of it .........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are people acting in this way across all the groups. I have many messages asking me to provide things, mainly pictures and they may consider us. As soon as someone says this kind of thing I am instantly put off

The main things I get are the 'pic of your man please' , a demand without any other conversation. I know instantly I wouldn't meet these people who can't communicate in a pleasant manner, so I ignore them On a few occasinos I receive a follow up message asking why I haven't sent one, I tell them to not message again at that point

I also get the 'can we see an action pic', when I reply saying I don't take action pics then they tell me to go and take one. I then reply telling them I don't do requests.

You dont have to be rude but if you don't want to jump to demands then dont do it.

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By *eareenaCouple
over a year ago

Rockford


"All the decent guys on this and every other swingers site should get down on their knees and thank *insert diety of choice here* for the idiots.

It makes the good guys stand out like a sore thumb "

I love this post because its so true

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By *lackshadow7Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"Question: Why do some women act like divas?

Answer: Because some men are desperate, stupid, low on self respect enough to jump through hoops for the chance of pussy.

If the response to these women was "do one!" there'd be swift attitude adjustment, but when pussy is on offer some men plumb lose their mind! "

And once again, i find myself nodding my head in agreement with you.

Shame it is far too logical a line of thought for here though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The truth actually is there is a percentage of every demographic who are idiots (F, MF, MM, M, TV), but as there are probably 10 men to every other thing on here then the problems are exasperated by desperation and pure numbers.

"

That, absolutely that. The frequency of the single male blocker being used to throw the baby out with the bathwater is a perfect example.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I think what I was going to say has been covered......

It's a two way thing.... The ppl who think they are above single guys and can make all sorts of demands..... And the single guys who then don't have enough self respect and are prepared to jump thru said hoops in regards to getting said meet.......

If the latter stopped, the former would change rather quickly.....

Yes there is an element of supply and demand in that there are way more single guys than couples and fems, but the guys are prepared to trample over each other to get a meet... And that's where some take advantage

In clubs I will say some of the offender of bad behaviour are single guys, but as Ahabs said, the worst offenders I have seen have been individuals where they think they get away with stuff because they are part of a couple

Being an arse isn't solely the domain of one group of people, but the amount of single man bashing posts has gotten to the point where even I now speak up and say "hey!!!!!!!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think what I was going to say has been covered......

It's a two way thing.... The ppl who think they are above single guys and can make all sorts of demands..... And the single guys who then don't have enough self respect and are prepared to jump thru said hoops in regards to getting said meet.......

If the latter stopped, the former would change rather quickly.....

Yes there is an element of supply and demand in that there are way more single guys than couples and fems, but the guys are prepared to trample over each other to get a meet... And that's where some take advantage

In clubs I will say some of the offender of bad behaviour are single guys, but as Ahabs said, the worst offenders I have seen have been individuals where they think they get away with stuff because they are part of a couple

Being an arse isn't solely the domain of one group of people, but the amount of single man bashing posts has gotten to the point where even I now speak up and say "hey!!!!!!!""

I actually think we are all guilty of some things. None of us are perfect. I bash everyone equally.... myself included.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think what I was going to say has been covered......

It's a two way thing.... The ppl who think they are above single guys and can make all sorts of demands..... And the single guys who then don't have enough self respect and are prepared to jump thru said hoops in regards to getting said meet.......

If the latter stopped, the former would change rather quickly.....

Yes there is an element of supply and demand in that there are way more single guys than couples and fems, but the guys are prepared to trample over each other to get a meet... And that's where some take advantage

In clubs I will say some of the offender of bad behaviour are single guys, but as Ahabs said, the worst offenders I have seen have been individuals where they think they get away with stuff because they are part of a couple

Being an arse isn't solely the domain of one group of people, but the amount of single man bashing posts has gotten to the point where even I now speak up and say "hey!!!!!!!""

Well said that man!! Says it all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The truth actually is there is a percentage of every demographic who are idiots (F, MF, MM, M, TV), but as there are probably 10 men to every other thing on here then the problems are exasperated by desperation and pure numbers.

"

sums it up perfectly

Can I guess that the rest of the thread includes singlemen bemoaning how hard done by they are? And in some cases showing a total lack of respect for the people they want to meet? And desperately trying to show they aren't like all the others? And an over use of phrases like "spoiling it for the good ones"? Because lets be honest much of the single men bashing on here is from other singlemen.

As _lackcherry rightly states every demographic on here has its fair share of idiots but the disproportionate number of males constantly highlights them.

As for couples and single fems calling all the shots, again it's a numbers thing as there will always be someone needy and desperate enough to pander to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've had no problems with couples or females in my short time on this site.

I believe that's because I will only mail females/couples who share my interests and preferences.

Even then I will only mail them if I think they are potentially compatible,single males with standards are allowed also.

In fact I've had females and couples mail me which some men say doesn't happen on here ?

Treat people as you expect to be treated is a motto that I always stick with.

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By *onny BonesMan
over a year ago

a block away from heaven

With experience I think that we singles get to know and understand the scene and how people act. So pleased that the OP is female. Were it a man to raise this thread it would have ben shot down by being a thread started by a single man moaning.

Good on ya OP!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it's all a big melting pot......."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes well done the OP !!

I regular take crap from couples and some message me for last minute meets then when I say I cant they get nasty.

Best of all they usually say on profile we wont do last minute meets or pushy males

Very double standards on here at times

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

It's not single women, single men or couples. Some people are just arsey twats. That condition is not exclusive to any group.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes cant judge all but to be honest most single women are polite and respectfull where id say that most couples are a pain to deal with shoot me down but hey.

when I've ever met couples most of them say the same that couples are more hassle to deal with.

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By *horltzMan
over a year ago

heysham


"...It's (some of!) the single women and couples.

The sense of entitlement of some women and couples is astounding. If single men dare to state their preferences, some women have a hissy fit if they are excluded.

People say they aren't meeting yet they still have their pics and profile on display... because they would feel unloved if they stopped getting mail?!

Fair comment , its an uphill battle for us singletons !!!!

Some women and couples moan that they get abuse when they reply to single guys. Yet they are abusive to the single guys... how is that fair?!

Sometimes it's not the other person that's the problem... sometimes you have to look at how (dis)respectful you are to other people....

"

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex


"It's not single women, single men or couples. Some people are just arsey twats. That condition is not exclusive to any group. "

Too right! that's the point most peopel identify, its never about "lets bash single men" nor "lets have a go at arrogant couples" or "Divas who think their pussies are lined with gold".

Its a "person" thing, so lets celebrate the good people while ignoring the numpties. Afterall, for these numpties the only thing worse than unwanted attention is no attention at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We agree with this, there are many people on here (and yes it IS mainly single women and couples)who have fallen for the hype, and DO believe they are the best thing since sliced bread.

we just keep a wide berth from them.

They have been allowed to call the shots with single guys due to the inequality in numbers, and it has gone to their heads.

They need to take a step away from the computer and get some real life time in there too!

However, the other side of the coin, people can only treat you badly if you allow them to, single men could put an end to the ridiculous demands and bad attitudes by not pandering to it!

However, as long as people put having a shag before having self respect, then this will carry on!

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By *uckyinlustMan
over a year ago

manchester

So well put Steel...........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It says in big letters right at the top of my profile I'm not meeting so I don't feel the need to hide my profile. I don't feel unloved if I don't get messages and when I do I don't feel any guilt if I don't reply as it also says that in my profile.

I won't hide my profile as I do use the forums and I won't apply all blocks as I get messages from forum users which I don't mind.

What I can't do is get people to read profile before messaging me , what I can do is ignore those that do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All these couples saying single guys will be privileged or luck is damn stupid in my eyes! You must be in a boring relationship then but then throw a hissy when a single guy chats up ,so stop this nonsense of acting is something special to be a couple ! It's just the same as singles ! And not all are worthy to even wink at .So it's a two way street .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"...It's (some of!) the single women and couples.

The sense of entitlement of some women and couples is astounding. If single men dare to state their preferences, some women have a hissy fit if they are excluded.

People say they aren't meeting yet they still have their pics and profile on display... because they would feel unloved if they stopped getting mail?!

Some women and couples moan that they get abuse when they reply to single guys. Yet they are abusive to the single guys... how is that fair?!

Sometimes it's not the other person that's the problem... sometimes you have to look at how (dis)respectful you are to other people....

"
well said (:

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"It's not single women, single men or couples. Some people are just arsey twats. That condition is not exclusive to any group. "

Exactly so!! I have no desire to have a go at any group of **people**, only occasionally bad **behaviour** when it affects me.

I personally love single men, only reason I'm here!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people are often very dubious in what they want from the scene, or what the scene means to them, sometimes when they cant see that..they act like arseholes.

Sometimes I just tell people to shut up...in a different manner, by bringing it to the point that they are 'acting like a (insert)

in respect to the OP, I've seen many women(forum users and profiles), as they moan away..all i think is fucking idiot,get some fucking perspective,try enjoying what the site can offer if u use it correctly, fuck off and moan somewhere else.

(might get some blocks from that woohooo lol)

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I want my single men to understand that I am a priceless jewel and that they should feel honoured if I deign to communicate with them.

I get narked with some single men and will moan about them at times on the forum.

When is a request seen as a demand? When is a preference seen as being 'up yourself'? When is a personal way of handling how the communication to meet process happens seen as being made to 'jump through hoops'?

I won't do spontaneous meets with someone I haven't met socially. I won't give my number until I have exchanged some messages and feel that I have a sense of the other person. I won't meet halves of couples on their own. There are others to this list but there is no point in listing any of them. Those that are sympatico understand this through the communication. Those that don't see it as me being up my own arse and a demanding diva.

However, I am here to MEET single men, just not all of them and not anyone that rocks up. The ones I would want to meet would tell me to fuck off if I am being unreasonable and demanding.

I don't double book and I have never stood anyone up or cancelled a meet without a genuine reason that takes precedence. All I ask is for the same to be offered to me.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"I want my single men to understand that I am a priceless jewel and that they should feel honoured if I deign to communicate with them.

"
Really???

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I want my single men to understand that I am a priceless jewel and that they should feel honoured if I deign to communicate with them.

Really??? "

No, don't be daft. I was being sarcastic. I can't think of myself as a priceless jewel worth honouring so why should/would anyone else?

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"I want my single men to understand that I am a priceless jewel and that they should feel honoured if I deign to communicate with them.

Really???

No, don't be daft. I was being sarcastic. I can't think of myself as a priceless jewel worth honouring so why should/would anyone else?

"
I actually think you hit the nail on the head somewhat as well.......its well publicised how awful some single women think some single men are/behave, but some of the fairer sex are bloody awful communicators.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I want my single men to understand that I am a priceless jewel and that they should feel honoured if I deign to communicate with them.

Really???

No, don't be daft. I was being sarcastic. I can't think of myself as a priceless jewel worth honouring so why should/would anyone else?

"

cubic zarconia...cheap and tacky...just like urself

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon


"...It's (some of!) the single women and couples.

The sense of entitlement of some women and couples is astounding. If single men dare to state their preferences, some women have a hissy fit if they are excluded.

People say they aren't meeting yet they still have their pics and profile on display... because they would feel unloved if they stopped getting mail?!

Some women and couples moan that they get abuse when they reply to single guys. Yet they are abusive to the single guys... how is that fair?!

Sometimes it's not the other person that's the problem... sometimes you have to look at how (dis)respectful you are to other people....

"

Nah, it's the "single" males!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hahaha, I am so glad to have seen this thread! as far as the shoe being on the foot, I feel one good turn deserves another.

I for one am tired of "single guys that don't know how to be have at clubs" rant threads, yet male have of some couples jumping in like they've been starved of all the single women they can get their hands on. correction.. make that ANY women! You see them grabbing and groping, yet when given "the look" their go-to response is "But we're a couple", as though being a couple makes it okay to grope a stranger.. yes, even in a swingers cub... when roles reversed any single guy that did that to their partner would be met with the same!

And whats with some couples that on the one hand don't accept "cold" friend invites (ie, no preeceding message to a stranger) yet send the same "cold" friend invites, and when the invite isn't accepted only then send a snotty "since you didn't accept our invite, we won't meet you" email?

So to summise there are lots of people who act like dicks ??

I have seen single women in clubs groping people without warning thinking being a single female gives them an excuse too.

I have seen a couple groping a passed out woman at a club.

I have seen and been involved in few incidents of single guys who just cannot take no for an answer as well, from groping Mrs C, to walking in on us in a locked play room and trying to join in.

There are bad people in the world and they are not all consigned to one area of swinging.

There are 10x as many single guys though so its quite easy to forget the above because the ratio of couple/fem idiots to male idiots follows the above ratio quite well

ie for every 10 idiot men we get 1 female or couple whos a bit of an idiot.

"

Another post that makes me glad I don't go to clubs!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The truth actually is there is a percentage of every demographic who are idiots (F, MF, MM, M, TV), but as there are probably 10 men to every other thing on here then the problems are exasperated by desperation and pure numbers.

sums it up perfectly

Can I guess that the rest of the thread includes singlemen bemoaning how hard done by they are? And in some cases showing a total lack of respect for the people they want to meet? And desperately trying to show they aren't like all the others? And an over use of phrases like "spoiling it for the good ones"? Because lets be honest much of the single men bashing on here is from other singlemen.

As _lackcherry rightly states every demographic on here has its fair share of idiots but the disproportionate number of males constantly highlights them.

As for couples and single fems calling all the shots, again it's a numbers thing as there will always be someone needy and desperate enough to pander to them.

"

Exactly. Tell them to stick their stuck up profile up their..... then again maybe they're into that.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I haven't really come across such problems with a couples profile, there have however been some over demanding women on here who seem to think that just because the ratio of females to males is in their favour that they can treat men like shit, expecting him to make all the effort with no compromise and still have them crawling on their hands and knees for the V.

Just because I don't have sex on tap doesn't mean I'm prepared to stomach disrespectful behaviour in order to get my oats

KnowwhatImsayin'?

Question: Why do some women act like divas?

Answer: Because some men are desperate, stupid, low on self respect enough to jump through hoops for the chance of pussy.

If the response to these women was "do one!" there'd be swift attitude adjustment, but when pussy is on offer some men plumb lose their mind! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah single guys are cool just as anyone else.No divas or pushy or whatnot .Everybody is cool

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By *_MariusMan
over a year ago

Currently Faraway


"...It's (some of!) the single women and couples.

The sense of entitlement of some women and couples is astounding. If single men dare to state their preferences, some women have a hissy fit if they are excluded.

People say they aren't meeting yet they still have their pics and profile on display... because they would feel unloved if they stopped getting mail?!

Some women and couples moan that they get abuse when they reply to single guys. Yet they are abusive to the single guys... how is that fair?!

Sometimes it's not the other person that's the problem... sometimes you have to look at how (dis)respectful you are to other people....

"

It's like you've read my thoughts Ms Steelheels

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I want my single men to understand that I am a priceless jewel and that they should feel honoured if I deign to communicate with them.

I get narked with some single men and will moan about them at times on the forum.

When is a request seen as a demand? When is a preference seen as being 'up yourself'? When is a personal way of handling how the communication to meet process happens seen as being made to 'jump through hoops'?

I won't do spontaneous meets with someone I haven't met socially. I won't give my number until I have exchanged some messages and feel that I have a sense of the other person. I won't meet halves of couples on their own. There are others to this list but there is no point in listing any of them. Those that are sympatico understand this through the communication. Those that don't see it as me being up my own arse and a demanding diva.

However, I am here to MEET single men, just not all of them and not anyone that rocks up. The ones I would want to meet would tell me to fuck off if I am being unreasonable and demanding.

I don't double book and I have never stood anyone up or cancelled a meet without a genuine reason that takes precedence. All I ask is for the same to be offered to me.

"

Thank fuck I haven't got to write all that .

Btw anti-bashing bashing threads seem to be on the increase and I still love single men (just not going to fuck them all )

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By *_MariusMan
over a year ago

Currently Faraway

"When is a request seen as a demand? When is a preference seen as being 'up yourself'? When is a personal way of handling how the communication to meet process happens seen as being made to 'jump through hoops'?"

The issue is, you can't really put tags on these things because it's not always black and white. However there is a difference between what you, I and everyone else prefers and being an unpleasant tw*t. The most eloquent answer I can give is 'you can see that difference on somebody's profile'. I've come across profiles that say "we won't meet such and such, sorry it's just not our preference" and I thought 'ok fair enough, I'm moving on'. And I've also come across profiles that say "if you dare do such and such without first having done this and that I will chew you up and spit you out" and I'm thinking....'really?!' pleeeease'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I want my single men to understand that I am a priceless jewel and that they should feel honoured if I deign to communicate with them.

I get narked with some single men and will moan about them at times on the forum.

When is a request seen as a demand? When is a preference seen as being 'up yourself'? When is a personal way of handling how the communication to meet process happens seen as being made to 'jump through hoops'?

I won't do spontaneous meets with someone I haven't met socially. I won't give my number until I have exchanged some messages and feel that I have a sense of the other person. I won't meet halves of couples on their own. There are others to this list but there is no point in listing any of them. Those that are sympatico understand this through the communication. Those that don't see it as me being up my own arse and a demanding diva.

However, I am here to MEET single men, just not all of them and not anyone that rocks up. The ones I would want to meet would tell me to fuck off if I am being unreasonable and demanding.

I don't double book and I have never stood anyone up or cancelled a meet without a genuine reason that takes precedence. All I ask is for the same to be offered to me.

Thank fuck I haven't got to write all that .

Btw anti-bashing bashing threads seem to be on the increase and I still love single men (just not going to fuck them all )"

aahhhhhhhhh

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