FabSwingers.com forum: £10 prescription charges for England

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

With around only 10% of people paying fees this wont be popular.

I get a medical exemption certificate for being on thyroxine but yet ALL of my meds are free. Why can they just give me that one drug free and then charge for other drugs not related to that illness?

Lower the prescription charge but change the system on who gets what for free.

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

I have an exemption but many seemingly unrelated meds are for things that could cause me major problems if left untreated due to my health issues - I've already had 16 hospital stays this year, I suspect free prescriptions are still cheaper that adding to that tally!

It does annoy me that those on JSA get free prescriptions but those on benefits because of ill health have to pay.

(unless they are entitled to an exemption cert).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In New Zealand,prescriptions only cost a pound!

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

Free in Scotland.... thank fook

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Free in Scotland.... thank fook "

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By *inkySCouple
over a year ago

Capetown

I pay dd for mine....I take post transplant drugs so not a choice to pay and need one of my drugs alone is nearly £900 per box! I dont mind paying what I find shocking though is the post code lottery of certain drugs not being available to everyone

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By *rsIdiotWoman
over a year ago

Bedworth

My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live"

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

"My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live"

Or if you are reliant on medication to get you through each and everyday, then they should be free for everyone. No-one chooses to be ill...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live"

The Scottish parliament decided this .....suggest you take it up with your local government

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live

The Scottish parliament decided this .....suggest you take it up with your local government"

It was, and is, a gimmick. The vast majority of prescriptions were free beforehand.

What we have now is lots of people who are perfectly able to pay getting free prescriptions. The same applies to free bus passes for over 60s.

As the Institute for Fiscal Studies report said yesterday- it can't go on. There simply isn't the money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't smoke.

But a pack of fags costs nearly a tenner and people pay it.

...even though they will at some point fucking kill you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't smoke.

But a pack of fags costs nearly a tenner and people pay it.

...even though they will at some point fucking kill you.

Everybody dies wheather they smoke or not so does it really make any difference?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Free in Wales too as it's something the Welsh Assembly Government decided on. I take Thyroxin every day and am very grateful but I'm lucky to be in full time employment and would happily pay for any other unrelated prescription.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I'm exempt, if I didn't take my medication the least I can expect is a hospital stay if not at the worst death. Why should I pay for something that isn't my fault. I just paid £6350 to have an operation private thats my contribution

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I don't smoke.

But a pack of fags costs nearly a tenner and people pay it.

...even though they will at some point fucking kill you.

Everybody dies wheather they smoke or not so does it really make any difference? "

Yes. Smokers die sooner and at greater cost to the NHS.

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By *mallteaserWoman
over a year ago

Central

Free here in Scotland, lol

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I take levothryoxine too so I've got a certificate. Quite lucky I suppose that I don't need many other things on prescription. I wouldn't mind paying for them though x

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I used to be entitled to an exemption certificate but I didn't use it as I could afford my prescription charges then.

For some things it is worth every penny of the prescription charge, others, where possible, better to get the over the counter equivalent.

A jump to £10 will be a shock.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think thats am outrageous amount to charge

I pay a prepayment charge for the OH as he rattles on medication,the meds he takes are necessary and he will become ill very quickly if he does'nt take them but as they're not a replacement for something his body does'nt produce such as thyroxine or insulin he still has to pay,thank goodness for cheaper pre payment method or we would be spending a huge amount every month

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In New Zealand,prescriptions only cost a pound!"

that's handy to know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have to pay for my prescriptions even though what i take keep me from suffering serious health issues or even death, for heart and BP problems and breathing problems .... seems unfair that i dont get them for free, i am also on a very low wage, just above minimum wage .... so who on earth gets free prescriptions when i dont ... seems unfair to me !

I find it hard to pay for them even though i pay via DD but on such a low wage and with so many meds to take it is difficult so putting the price up might mean i have to make choices on what i have !!

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By *ndy_mandyCouple
over a year ago

Tredegar

Thank god its free in Wales

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't smoke.

But a pack of fags costs nearly a tenner and people pay it.

...even though they will at some point fucking kill you.

Everybody dies wheather they smoke or not so does it really make any difference? "

No that's not the point I'm making.

Prescriptions can save your life..fags can kill you.

But people will pay hand over fist for fags, even out of a fag machine at +30% markup.

Case in point, I think it's good that people should pay as less meds are wasted.

People will actually take what they are given since they have paid for it.

**tin hat on**

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By *rbadguy64Couple
over a year ago

bangor

Free in N.Ireland as well just saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All free in Northern Ireland too

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By *rumCoupleCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

"I don't smoke.

But a pack of fags costs nearly a tenner and people pay it.

...even though they will at some point fucking kill you.

Everybody dies wheather they smoke or not so does it really make any difference?

Yes. Smokers die sooner and at greater cost to the NHS. "

Actually, smokers are a net BENEFIT to the economy, as they pay shed loads of tax, and have the decency to die young, thus not claiming pensions for years and years.

One thing the smoking ban has done is force us all to pay more tax, to make up for the lost tax from people smoking less or quitting PLUS the extra cost of non and ex-smokers living to be longer, since it's old people who cost the NHS the most.

When the ban was introduced, I did some sums and the cost to the taxpayer in reduced duty alone came to be about £20million.

A year.

So six years on, that's a shortfall of £120million. Then add in the extra spending needed on all the living longer ex smokers who gave up because of the ban (I know a few) and ask yourself why you are paying the tax you are.

I wonder if the smoking ban would have been so popular if people realised they'd have to pay for it ?

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By *ricky_DickyMan
over a year ago

Mirfield

"I pay dd for mine....I take post transplant drugs so not a choice to pay and need one of my drugs alone is nearly £900 per box! I dont mind paying what I find shocking though is the post code lottery of certain drugs not being available to everyone

I know all to well the actual cost of immunosuppressant meds having had 2 kidney transplants and that you usually have to take a few different meds with them too so paying for a script would be expensive.

I'd recommend anyone who regularly gets 2 or more items per month to look at getting a pre-payment certificate, have a look at this NHS web site.

www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/1127.aspx

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By *rumCoupleCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

"I get a medical exemption certificate for being on thyroxine but yet ALL of my meds are free. Why can they just give me that one drug free and then charge for other drugs not related to that illness?

I have been saying this for years. I (MrJ) have glaucoma so will be on eye drops till I die. Which I think should be "free". But I would have no problem paying if I needed a course of antibiotics (for example).

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By *ustyBrunette35Couple
over a year ago

birmingham

"I wonder if the smoking ban would have been so popular if people realised they'd have to pay for it ?"

I'm more than happy to pay the extra. Being able to breath in cleaner air in all public places is worth it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People with recognised Long Term Conditions should not have to pay. Dissapointed that this still seems someway off.

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

Mr B has to take medication daily to control his quality of life. He can't just stop taking it and will be on it now all his life.

Yet he has to pay for his medication which does annoy me. Think it is already expensive enough without charging more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It does annoy me that those on JSA get free prescriptions but those on benefits because of ill health have to pay.

(unless they are entitled to an exemption cert)."

its actually not that simple.

for someone on JSA to get free prescriptions, they need to be getting a raft of other benefits too.

i was on JSA and still had to find money for prescriptions, as well as dental bills. i had the same thought as you, but the reality is somewhat different

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The £7.50 or whatever it is now is already a joke!! It doesnt even make sense, you can get paracetamol on them and have to pay the full whack... They cost 16p in the shops! Its stupid!! C x

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

It does annoy me that those on JSA get free prescriptions but those on benefits because of ill health have to pay.

(unless they are entitled to an exemption cert).

its actually not that simple.

for someone on JSA to get free prescriptions, they need to be getting a raft of other benefits too.

i was on JSA and still had to find money for prescriptions, as well as dental bills. i had the same thought as you, but the reality is somewhat different"

When Mr B lost his job last year and was on JSA for a few months. We assumed that he would get free prescriptions but no, he still had to pay for those.

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By *ricky_DickyMan
over a year ago

Mirfield

"The £7.50 or whatever it is now is already a joke!! It doesnt even make sense, you can get paracetamol on them and have to pay the full whack... They cost 16p in the shops! Its stupid!! C x"

But you don't need a prescription to buy paracetamol you can buy it over the counter. The simple answer is if you don't need a prescription to purchase a med and it's cheaper than the cost of a script just buy it.

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By *rumCoupleCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

"The £7.50 or whatever it is now is already a joke!! It doesnt even make sense, you can get paracetamol on them and have to pay the full whack... They cost 16p in the shops! Its stupid!! C x

Our doctors always advise us if it's possible to buy a medicine over the counter. Although now we both have PPC, it's immaterial

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But not every doctor tells you these things. thats the problem. Some will of course, my doctor does for example.

But you can't honestly expect me to believe that a single tablet costs the same as a box of 200? Yet thats what you can get. It all doesn't add up.

And don't even get me started on the price of the single tablet emergency contraceptive!!! C x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Free in Scotland.... thank fook "

I wonder if they will be free if Scotland breaks away from the UK.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I don't smoke.

But a pack of fags costs nearly a tenner and people pay it.

...even though they will at some point fucking kill you.

Everybody dies wheather they smoke or not so does it really make any difference?

Yes. Smokers die sooner and at greater cost to the NHS.

Actually, smokers are a net BENEFIT to the economy, as they pay shed loads of tax, and have the decency to die young, thus not claiming pensions for years and years.

..............."

They tend to die an unpleasant and, for the NHS, expensive death.

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

"Free in Scotland.... thank fook

I wonder if they will be free if Scotland breaks away from the UK.

No idea but personally I hope so. As I said before, no-one chooses to be ill and if we have a free nhs/doctor service then required/dependent/life meds should be free for ALL x

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Free in Scotland.... thank fook

I wonder if they will be free if Scotland breaks away from the UK.

Yesterday's Institute for Fiscal Studies report makes that increasingly unlikely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live"

as far as i know,free here in n.ireland as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am on long term drugs for metal health which i get free but only because i am a carer and can't work and in receipt of IS.

Given my situation I would love for it to be the other way round and be moaning about working hours and paying for a prescription but £10 is bloody extortionate !!

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By *rumCoupleCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

"I don't smoke.

But a pack of fags costs nearly a tenner and people pay it.

...even though they will at some point fucking kill you.

Everybody dies wheather they smoke or not so does it really make any difference?

Yes. Smokers die sooner and at greater cost to the NHS.

Actually, smokers are a net BENEFIT to the economy, as they pay shed loads of tax, and have the decency to die young, thus not claiming pensions for years and years.

...............

They tend to die an unpleasant and, for the NHS, expensive death."

Drawing a pension for 20+ is waaaaaaaaaaaay more expensive than treating smokers.

Every smoker that gives up aged 55 ends up costing the exchequer more than if they carried on and died at 65.

Of course there are some offsets - increased productivity for example. But the bottom line is smokers pay more to the country than they cost. If you remove that source of income, you have to find it elsewhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't smoke.

But a pack of fags costs nearly a tenner and people pay it.

...even though they will at some point fucking kill you.

Everybody dies wheather they smoke or not so does it really make any difference?

Yes. Smokers die sooner and at greater cost to the NHS.

Actually, smokers are a net BENEFIT to the economy, as they pay shed loads of tax, and have the decency to die young, thus not claiming pensions for years and years.

...............

They tend to die an unpleasant and, for the NHS, expensive death.

Drawing a pension for 20+ is waaaaaaaaaaaay more expensive than treating smokers.

I'm a patriot.

I'm gonna go buy a truck full of B&H and save the government cash!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mr B has to take medication daily to control his quality of life. He can't just stop taking it and will be on it now all his life.

Yet he has to pay for his medication which does annoy me. Think it is already expensive enough without charging more.

Buy a quarterly PPC and keep submitting repeat prescriptions within the time period.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

/fuck it this is political thump what you doing man!

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

"Free in Scotland.... thank fook "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Scotland has one of the highest rates of death from cardiac related illnesses in Europe, and has on average far longer waiting times for ambulance response and eventual treatment than England. Free scripts are nothing more than an appeasement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

look on the bright side.

its 70 euro to visit the doc/hospital in ireland

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

"look on the bright side.

its 70 euro to visit the doc/hospital in ireland"

50 for doc

100 for a&e

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"look on the bright side.

its 70 euro to visit the doc/hospital in ireland

50 for doc

100 for a&e

i averaged it out lol.

tbf, V has a medical card, so she only pays for certain things, which is lucky, cuz she is on B12 injections every month

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't smoke.

But a pack of fags costs nearly a tenner and people pay it.

...even though they will at some point fucking kill you.

Everybody dies wheather they smoke or not so does it really make any difference?

Yes. Smokers die sooner and at greater cost to the NHS.

Actually, smokers are a net BENEFIT to the economy, as they pay shed loads of tax, and have the decency to die young, thus not claiming pensions for years and years.

...............

They tend to die an unpleasant and, for the NHS, expensive death.

Drawing a pension for 20+ is waaaaaaaaaaaay more expensive than treating smokers.

I'm a patriot.

I'm gonna go buy a truck full of B&H and save the government cash!

Ooo sell em on at a knock down price I'll have a sleeve

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a shame that people that are hit with more price increases in the areas where they need to be looking at decreasing the cost. I have asthma and have payed for my inhalers all my life because I have worked all my life... yet drug addicted down the road never payed A penny my inhalers go up to keep his free how's this fair.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a patriot.

I'm gonna go buy a truck full of B&H and save the government cash!

Ooo sell em on at a knock down price I'll have a sleeve

...What's a sleeve?..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wasn't it £7.80 (or something) anyway?

I suppose around 25% is a bit of a jump but far cheaper than what you would actually pay for the medications. I know some people who get a small carrier bag of medication a week for whatever the price the prescription is. That isn't bad at all!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Scotland has one of the highest rates of death from cardiac related illnesses in Europe, and has on average far longer waiting times for ambulance response and eventual treatment than England. Free scripts are nothing more than an appeasement."

You say appeasement. We say bribe.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"look on the bright side.

its 70 euro to visit the doc/hospital in ireland

50 for doc

100 for a&e

i averaged it out lol.

tbf, V has a medical card, so she only pays for certain things, which is lucky, cuz she is on B12 injections every month"

Injectable B12, last I looked, comes in packs of 5 or 6. One prescription should be enough for a pack which can be stored in GP premises.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"It's a shame that people that are hit with more price increases in the areas where they need to be looking at decreasing the cost. I have asthma and have payed for my inhalers all my life because I have worked all my life... yet drug addicted down the road never payed A penny my inhalers go up to keep his free how's this fair. "

It isn't that simple. The drugs bill is controlled by big pharma and the government negotiations on what we will buy, how much and at what price. The prescription charge means that some cheap things cost more and some mega expensive things are hugely subsidised. Then there is the decision about what the prescription charge should be. Then the decision on who pays it and who doesn't. If you want to think of it as you have paid in and therefore should get it free whereas someone else hasn't so shouldn't then you are not grasping the importance of public health, the cost savings from managing conditions and a whole host of other complexities on changing demographics, technology and health and the system of primary, secondary, chronic and acute care.

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By *rumCoupleCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

The prescription charge has nothing to do with the cost of the medicine being prescribed. It's an *administrative* charge to cover the cost of administering the supply of medicines.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"look on the bright side.

its 70 euro to visit the doc/hospital in ireland

50 for doc

100 for a&e

i averaged it out lol.

tbf, V has a medical card, so she only pays for certain things, which is lucky, cuz she is on B12 injections every month

Injectable B12, last I looked, comes in packs of 5 or 6. One prescription should be enough for a pack which can be stored in GP premises."

for some reason her pharmacy only release them singularly

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

The challenge with free prescriptions is that, unlike free bus passes, people who CAN afford to pay and who are WILLING to pay, don't have that choice.

If you have a bus pass, you can choose not to use it and to pay your fare.

If you need a prescription, you have to pay the prescription charge. That's £7.85 in England.

In Scotland it's free. Because it's usually a prescription only medicine*, you don't have the option of paying for it yourself - you must pay the prescription charge ie £0.00.

*someone (above) has mentioned pharmacists explaining about buying stuff like paracetamol over the counter.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

The prescription charge has nothing to do with the cost of the medicine being prescribed. It's an *administrative* charge to cover the cost of administering the supply of medicines."

I know but it is linked to the overall NHS bill. The charge comes from that, ideology about paying etc.

People do the "paracetamol only costs pennies and I am being charged £7.80" complaint conflating the cost of their prescription with the cost of the drug. The drugs bill is a major part of NHS cost control measures.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"look on the bright side.

its 70 euro to visit the doc/hospital in ireland

50 for doc

100 for a&e

i averaged it out lol.

tbf, V has a medical card, so she only pays for certain things, which is lucky, cuz she is on B12 injections every month

Injectable B12, last I looked, comes in packs of 5 or 6. One prescription should be enough for a pack which can be stored in GP premises.

for some reason her pharmacy only release them singularly"

That's 'cos they're getting £7.85/ vial.

I'd question that at the pharmacy and at the GP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"look on the bright side.

its 70 euro to visit the doc/hospital in ireland

50 for doc

100 for a&e

i averaged it out lol.

tbf, V has a medical card, so she only pays for certain things, which is lucky, cuz she is on B12 injections every month

Injectable B12, last I looked, comes in packs of 5 or 6. One prescription should be enough for a pack which can be stored in GP premises.

for some reason her pharmacy only release them singularly

That's 'cos they're getting £7.85/ vial.

I'd question that at the pharmacy and at the GP."

she has a card so doesnt pay, but would question it if she had to

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By *rumCoupleCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

"The challenge with free prescriptions is that, unlike free bus passes, people who CAN afford to pay and who are WILLING to pay, don't have that choice.

If you have a bus pass, you can choose not to use it and to pay your fare.

If you need a prescription, you have to pay the prescription charge. That's £7.85 in England.

You can choose to pay the prescription charge if you want, even if you're exempt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I ask my GP to check price of the prescription, if its cheaper to buy, he will write me a private prescription.

Antibiotics are around £3:50 that's half the NHS prescription price.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ambulance response times are roughly the same as in England, if you factor out the vast rural areas which England doesn't have, and the death rates for CHD are roughly similar, too. But this is relevant, why?

As far as free prescriptions- the government- any government- do this all the time in various ways and I, for one, am perfectly happy to appeased or bribed whenever they wish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live"
Surely your biggest annoyance is the fact that you pay for yours in England rather than the fact that they are free in Scotland.

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over a year ago

"I ask my GP to check price of the prescription, if its cheaper to buy, he will write me a private prescription.

Antibiotics are around £3:50 that's half the NHS prescription price.

Only some of the very old antibiotics are cheap. Anything still with a patent are hideously expensive.

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over a year ago

"look on the bright side.

its 70 euro to visit the doc/hospital in ireland"

that may well be the case in the republic of ireland,here in n.ireland,part of the uk,its free to visit the doctor and go to a&e and as i said before to my knowledge,free for prescriptions

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over a year ago

"I ask my GP to check price of the prescription, if its cheaper to buy, he will write me a private prescription.

Antibiotics are around £3:50 that's half the NHS prescription price.

Only some of the very old antibiotics are cheap. Anything still with a patent are hideously expensive. "
you will find that GPs wont prescribe the expensive antibiotics unless specified from hospital consultants.they tend to prescribe alternative copies.

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over a year ago

"look on the bright side.

its 70 euro to visit the doc/hospital in ireland

that may well be the case in the republic of ireland,here in n.ireland,part of the uk,its free to visit the doctor and go to a&e and as i said before to my knowledge,free for prescriptions"

yeah, meant real ireland lol

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over a year ago

I live in Scotland so don't pay...well not up front and at the moment....but when king Alex gets booted out the throne room and the accounts are opened ...we will be paying one way or the other.

However

My problem is with doctors who do a we will try this...the next week they change it and the week after again....there is phenomenal waste in prescribing drugs...better education and a small charge for everyone, so everyone has access to the same treatment is what is needed.

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over a year ago

Only some of the very old antibiotics are cheap. Anything still with a patent are hideously expensive.

you will find that GPs wont prescribe the expensive antibiotics unless specified from hospital consultants.they tend to prescribe alternative copies."

Patents last a very long time- 25 years? I know that GP's have to prescribe generics and I think it's up to the pharmacist to chose which drug name within that but even so, the cost of antibiotics alone is often way, way more than even £10. Let's face it, 'free ' health care costs. Drug companies are huge corporate machines and public health is the cash cow. Poor government stuck in the middle. Damned if they do charge and damned if they don't

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

"look on the bright side.

its 70 euro to visit the doc/hospital in ireland

50 for doc

100 for a&e

i averaged it out lol.

tbf, V has a medical card, so she only pays for certain things, which is lucky, cuz she is on B12 injections every month

Injectable B12, last I looked, comes in packs of 5 or 6. One prescription should be enough for a pack which can be stored in GP premises."

Really Doctor Onny.... care to tell on hydrocortisone injections, morphine injections, insuline.... all being expert!!!

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over a year ago

Hydrocortisone AND insulin - oooh errr

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over a year ago

"My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live"

they are free up here but we do pay a price in respect that many treatments and drugs are not available as a result of the allocating of funds to covrr the cost of prescriptions.

swings and roundabouts folks

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over a year ago

"My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live

they are free up here but we do pay a price in respect that many treatments and drugs are not available as a result of the allocating of funds to covrr the cost of prescriptions.The free prescriptions in Scotland was a Scottish government decision,the allocation of monies to gps is a central government payment.

swings and roundabouts folks

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By *mwantsWoman
over a year ago

City

"look on the bright side.

its 70 euro to visit the doc/hospital in ireland

that may well be the case in the republic of ireland,here in n.ireland,part of the uk,its free to visit the doctor and go to a&e and as i said before to my knowledge,free for prescriptions

yeah, meant real ireland lol

Also paying for the prescription on top! Once paid €50 for the doctor and €70 for two migraine tablets! 2 tablets!!!! If you have alot of medication you can pay €120 per month per family.

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By *rsFine-MrBallsCouple
over a year ago

markinch

"My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live"

Lol well maybe if it was that way we wouldnt be shouting for independence lol

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over a year ago

"My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live

The Scottish parliament decided this .....suggest you take it up with your local government

It was, and is, a gimmick. The vast majority of prescriptions were free beforehand.

What we have now is lots of people who are perfectly able to pay getting free prescriptions. The same applies to free bus passes for over 60s.

As the Institute for Fiscal Studies report said yesterday- it can't go on. There simply isn't the money."

agreed it will be the same for the Welsh you cannot spend what you do not have.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In New Zealand,prescriptions only cost a pound!"

A NZ pound? (or are they dollars there? It was some time ago now)

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

"My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live

The Scottish parliament decided this .....suggest you take it up with your local government

It was, and is, a gimmick. The vast majority of prescriptions were free beforehand.

What we have now is lots of people who are perfectly able to pay getting free prescriptions. The same applies to free bus passes for over 60s.

As the Institute for Fiscal Studies report said yesterday- it can't go on. There simply isn't the money.

agreed it will be the same for the Welsh you cannot spend what you do not have."

I cant believe that anyone is putting this much faith in the IFS report, its a pile of mince. For a start it states that it is based on assumptions given to them by the OBR a branch of the westminster treasury. Do you think they are neutral on the issue. Its another piece of jerrymandering from downing street. You can make statistics prove whatever suits your needs, the outputs are only as reliable as the inputs. And the same report states that independance would provide scotland with the opportunity to implement a more efficient tax regime than the uk has, making it more competative and attractive to international business.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

The fact it's being so roundly condemned by Cybernats without a shred of evidence shows just how desparate they've become.

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over a year ago

"The fact it's being so roundly condemned by Cybernats without a shred of evidence shows just how desparate they've become.

no offence mate but ive read it and various others that IFS have published all complete guesswork assumptions and supposition.

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over a year ago

"The fact it's being so roundly condemned by Cybernats without a shred of evidence shows just how desparate they've become.

no offence mate but ive read it and various others that IFS have published all complete guesswork assumptions and supposition."

and just for the record im not a nat.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Keep diggin'.

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over a year ago

"Keep diggin'."

yawn

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

"My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live"

Erm.....there's always been big differences in the way things are done in the different constituent parts of the UK.

Going by this logic, the different legal and education systems that Scotland has had for hundreds of years is unacceptable.

Not necessarily a fan of the peescription policy (it's free here too) and not a nationalist btw!

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over a year ago

"My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live

Erm.....there's always been big differences in the way things are done in the different constituent parts of the UK.

Going by this logic, the different legal and education systems that Scotland has had for hundreds of years is unacceptable.

Not necessarily a fan of the peescription policy (it's free here too) and not a nationalist btw!"

next thing you know they will want to stop the boyo's in the valleys from worrying sheep

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over a year ago

"Free in Scotland.... thank fook

I wonder if they will be free if Scotland breaks away from the UK.

Yesterday's Institute for Fiscal Studies report makes that increasingly unlikely."

Unlikely there will be a break away, or unlikely there will be free prescriptions if they do?

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By *eordie JoJoTV/TS
over a year ago

Newcastle

Boils me this topic......yet again the English suffer the most!!....... Give Scotland and Wales their independence and cut the fooking purse strings!! As they still love to take money from the central pot!!

want independence then let them stand in their own 2 feet.....then us English would get free prescriptions, free university fees etc.... As it would only be OUR pot!!

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over a year ago

I think overall the NHS are good value so I'm not convened by a ten pound prescription charge. Im not overly keen on other member countries not paying their way though and I agree with the above post on their thoughts. It's outrageous that the English tax payer burdens the cost for everyone else. It just makes this whole Independance issue even more of a joke. I bet you wouldn't be getting free prescriptions if you did break away and possibly end up paying more than ten pounds too. So to the poster above who quoted its free with a lol after , careful how you vote or you might not be lol.

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over a year ago

"Boils me this topic......yet again the English suffer the most!!....... Give Scotland and Wales their independence and cut the fooking purse strings!! As they still love to take money from the central pot!!

want independence then let them stand in their own 2 feet.....then us English would get free prescriptions, free university fees etc.... As it would only be OUR pot!!

first off dont believe the hype, the myth(yes myth) that england subsides the rest off the uk was blown away when a former chancelor admitted that the treasury have been manipulating the figures for decades. As i have sa before you can mske stats prove anything.

as for free prescriptions we have them yes, but at a cost there are a number of treatments and drugs (especially for cancer) which are only available in england.

so at the risk of repeating myself, swings and roundabouts.

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By *ndy_mandyCouple
over a year ago

Tredegar

"My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live

Erm.....there's always been big differences in the way things are done in the different constituent parts of the UK.

Going by this logic, the different legal and education systems that Scotland has had for hundreds of years is unacceptable.

Not necessarily a fan of the peescription policy (it's free here too) and not a nationalist btw!

next thing you know they will want to stop the boyo's in the valleys from worrying sheep

Hey leave our sheep alone they have never said no, baaaa means yes lol

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over a year ago

"My biggest annoyance is the fact that they are free in Scotland. Are we not a United Kingdom? If so then they should be charged the same price regardless of where you live

Erm.....there's always been big differences in the way things are done in the different constituent parts of the UK.

Going by this logic, the different legal and education systems that Scotland has had for hundreds of years is unacceptable.

Not necessarily a fan of the peescription policy (it's free here too) and not a nationalist btw!

next thing you know they will want to stop the boyo's in the valleys from worrying sheep

Hey leave our sheep alone they have never said no, baaaa means yes lol

They use that excuse in aberdeen too. Chortle chortle

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By *ndy_mandyCouple
over a year ago

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Free in Scotland.... thank fook

I wonder if they will be free if Scotland breaks away from the UK.

Yesterday's Institute for Fiscal Studies report makes that increasingly unlikely.

Unlikely there will be a break away, or unlikely there will be free prescriptions if they do?"

Increasingly unlikely there will be a breakaway.

Increasingly unlike free prescriptions for all would be able to continue in any separate Scotland. Why continue to pay bribes when the baw's bust?

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over a year ago

"Free in Scotland.... thank fook

I wonder if they will be free if Scotland breaks away from the UK.

Yesterday's Institute for Fiscal Studies report makes that increasingly unlikely.

Unlikely there will be a break away, or unlikely there will be free prescriptions if they do?

Increasingly unlikely there will be a breakaway.

Increasingly unlike free prescriptions for all would be able to continue in any separate Scotland. Why continue to pay bribes when the baw's bust?"

that would be the baw provided by westminster !!

Solution bring yer ain baw !!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Free in Scotland.... thank fook

I wonder if they will be free if Scotland breaks away from the UK.

Yesterday's Institute for Fiscal Studies report makes that increasingly unlikely.

Unlikely there will be a break away, or unlikely there will be free prescriptions if they do?

Increasingly unlikely there will be a breakaway.

Increasingly unlike free prescriptions for all would be able to continue in any separate Scotland. Why continue to pay bribes when the baw's bust?

that would be the baw provided by westminster !!

Solution bring yer ain baw !!"

Who needs a baw when we have a baw bag? Step forward Mr Salmond.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

I'm not sure what's going on now. Can someone translate for me please

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over a year ago

"Free in Scotland.... thank fook

I wonder if they will be free if Scotland breaks away from the UK.

Yesterday's Institute for Fiscal Studies report makes that increasingly unlikely.

Unlikely there will be a break away, or unlikely there will be free prescriptions if they do?

Increasingly unlikely there will be a breakaway.

Increasingly unlike free prescriptions for all would be able to continue in any separate Scotland. Why continue to pay bribes when the baw's bust?

that would be the baw provided by westminster !!

Solution bring yer ain baw !!

Who needs a baw when we have a baw bag? Step forward Mr Salmond."

do you honestly want to stick with call me dave and his sidekick nickerless ? Or maybe mr millibean is your cup of tea. You see how easy it is to go after someones personality. Go and educate yourself on the issues, come back when you can join the real debate.

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over a year ago

"I'm not sure what's going on now. Can someone translate for me please

football analogy, baw(ball) when its burst the game is over.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

oh and bawbag = scrotum

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over a year ago

The prescriptions in Scotland , Wales and Northern Ireland are only free at the point of purchase.

The budget is set for each area and it is up to the country how they divide it up.Other departments get cut back to subsidise the prescriptions.

If in England the government want to give out free prescriptions then they can but will have to cut back on other areas.

In Scotland other areas of the budget suffer like education to pay for Salmond's bribe. As the other poster stated many cancer and other drugs are not available in Scotland due to this drain on the Scottish health budget.

I can afford to pay for prescriptions and should pay for them so that more money goes into local heath services.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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Ok people be civil

To the OP, having read the thread I am going to go against the grain and say it is not too bad when you consider how much some drugs are....but...it hits the people who are normally working and some might be only on minimum wage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In New Zealand,prescriptions only cost a pound!"

if every one paid a pound for a script regardless of income etc, that would even it out for every one

surely everyone can raise a pound for drugs they need, after all its far less than a drink in the pub

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over a year ago

"The prescriptions in Scotland , Wales and Northern Ireland are only free at the point of purchase.

The budget is set for each area and it is up to the country how they divide it up.Other departments get cut back to subsidise the prescriptions.

If in England the government want to give out free prescriptions then they can but will have to cut back on other areas.

I can afford to pay for prescriptions and should pay for them so that more money goes into local heath services."

and maybe a bit for us poor students

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't smoke.

But a pack of fags costs nearly a tenner and people pay it.

...even though they will at some point fucking kill you.

Everybody dies wheather they smoke or not so does it really make any difference?

No that's not the point I'm making.

Prescriptions can save your life..fags can kill you.

But people will pay hand over fist for fags, even out of a fag machine at +30% markup.

Case in point, I think it's good that people should pay as less meds are wasted.

People will actually take what they are given since they have paid for it.

**tin hat on**

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over a year ago

"I don't smoke.

But a pack of fags costs nearly a tenner and people pay it.

...even though they will at some point fucking kill you.

Everybody dies wheather they smoke or not so does it really make any difference?

No that's not the point I'm making.

Prescriptions can save your life..fags can kill you.

But people will pay hand over fist for fags, even out of a fag machine at +30% markup.

Case in point, I think it's good that people should pay as less meds are wasted.

People will actually take what they are given since they have paid for it.

**tin hat on**

its a fair point, different people have different priorities. The cost debate here is more important to most than the availability issue, until they cant get something they need that is.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Any post now the 'if you don't support Separation, you're not a real Scot' accusations will start.

The Nats have no answers.

If an independent think tank points out the flaws in their plans, they're biased.

All we're told is 'Don't worry your little head about that. It'll be alright on the night'.

It won't.

The Nats insist it's impossible to predict what'll happen in 3 or 5 or 10 or 50 years time, yet fail to mention that, in the unlikely event of Separation, it'll be forever. A one way street. No going back. Off the cliff without a 'chute.

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over a year ago

"Any post now the 'if you don't support Separation, you're not a real Scot' accusations will start.

The Nats have no answers.

If an independent think tank points out the flaws in their plans, they're biased.

All we're told is 'Don't worry your little head about that. It'll be alright on the night'.

It won't.

more soundbites

explain how the IFS report can be independant when they recieved a brief from the OBR which is a branch of the treasury !! Unless your telling me that george osbourne and his team are neutrals.

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over a year ago

"I'm not sure what's going on now. Can someone translate for me please

football analogy, baw(ball) when its burst the game is over."

Thank you. I thought I was in the dark. Please feel free to () any other words you Scots slip in to confuddle poor little English me

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over a year ago

"With around only 10% of people paying fees this wont be popular.

I get a medical exemption certificate for being on thyroxine but yet ALL of my meds are free. Why can they just give me that one drug free and then charge for other drugs not related to that illness

Lower the prescription charge but change the system on who gets what for free. "

Northern Iteland is free too and thank goodness I need 20 tablets a day to be able to function and I used to pay £40 a month for my meds.

Both my hubby and I are unemployed and have been applying for jobs from we we're let go in April and May this year, we apply for everything but nothing has come up. It is unfair to tar everyone with the same brush we are doing our best to get jobs.

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over a year ago

"With around only 10% of people paying fees this wont be popular.

I get a medical exemption certificate for being on thyroxine but yet ALL of my meds are free. Why can they just give me that one drug free and then charge for other drugs not related to that illness

Lower the prescription charge but change the system on who gets what for free.

Northern Iteland is free too and thank goodness I need 20 tablets a day to be able to function and I used to pay £40 a month for my meds.

best of luck georgiana, hope things turn out well for you both

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over a year ago

"I'm not sure what's going on now. Can someone translate for me please

football analogy, baw(ball) when its burst the game is over.

Thank you. I thought I was in the dark. Please feel free to () any other words you Scots slip in to confuddle poor little English me

thats ok, us scots are used to sorting stuff for you poor confuddled english folk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

", in the unlikely event of Separation, it'll be forever. A one way street. No going back. Off the cliff without a 'chute."

Ohh I feel SOOO sorry for Slovakia and the Czech Republic, in fact all those other small European breakaway countries. Oops, no, they are doing very well thank you. lol. Poor souls don't have petroleum reserves, either. Shame.

Last time I looked, which was about 2 minutes ago, this was a swinging site, not a political platform for those with views based on lies, damned lies and statistics

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over a year ago

", in the unlikely event of Separation, it'll be forever. A one way street. No going back. Off the cliff without a 'chute.

Last time I looked, which was about 2 minutes ago, this was a swinging site, not a political platform for those with views based on lies, damned lies and statistics"

Gon yersel miss terry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, thank you

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over a year ago

"With around only 10% of people paying fees this wont be popular.

I get a medical exemption certificate for being on thyroxine but yet ALL of my meds are free. Why can they just give me that one drug free and then charge for other drugs not related to that illness

Lower the prescription charge but change the system on who gets what for free.

Northern Iteland is free too and thank goodness I need 20 tablets a day to be able to function and I used to pay £40 a month for my meds.

best of luck georgiana, hope things turn out well for you both

Thanks bino we hate our situation and trying to pay bill and feed a family of four on £200 a week is quite a feat lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can someone rename the thread to the "whinging jock" section.

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over a year ago

"Can someone rename the thread to the "whinging jock" section.

less of the jock nonsense you, is that not racist

no wait, there was an english court that said it isnt, silly me

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

I don't have to pay for mine if I did id have to decide which was most important as I often have loads of items

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over a year ago

"Can someone rename the thread to the "whinging jock" section.

less of the jock nonsense you, is that not racist

no wait, there was an english court that said it isnt, silly me

Justice prevails.

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over a year ago

"Can someone rename the thread to the "whinging jock" section.

less of the jock nonsense you, is that not racist

no wait, there was an english court that said it isnt, silly me

Justice prevails.

nah, the law is an ass

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't smoke.

But a pack of fags costs nearly a tenner and people pay it.

...even though they will at some point fucking kill you.

Do you drink alcohol? That can kill you too lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Trouble with the Scots is the depth of their pocket vs length of arm ratio is always wrong

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over a year ago

"Trouble with the Scots is the depth of their pocket vs length of arm ratio is always wrong

are you kidding, ive been to norwich

much worse than us

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

as with diabetes a lot of things are linked to it ie high blood pressure so that's why they are all free

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

", in the unlikely event of Separation, it'll be forever. A one way street. No going back. Off the cliff without a 'chute.

Last time I looked, which was about 2 minutes ago, this was a swinging site, not a political platform for those with views based on lies, damned lies and statistics"

If Slovakia and the Czech Republic (and Poland and Ireland and ..........)are all doing so well, why are their young folk, their 'brightest and their best' leaving in droves?

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over a year ago

", in the unlikely event of Separation, it'll be forever. A one way street. No going back. Off the cliff without a 'chute.

Last time I looked, which was about 2 minutes ago, this was a swinging site, not a political platform for those with views based on lies, damned lies and statistics

If Slovakia and the Czech Republic (and Poland and Ireland and ..........)are all doing so well, why are their young folk, their 'brightest and their best' leaving in droves?"

Easy to answer that _nny, same as the rest of the worlds youth. They get bored seeing the same people and places every day add in the global media and marketing which tell you the grass is greener on the other side. Only more often than not it isnt.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

", in the unlikely event of Separation, it'll be forever. A one way street. No going back. Off the cliff without a 'chute.

Last time I looked, which was about 2 minutes ago, this was a swinging site, not a political platform for those with views based on lies, damned lies and statistics

If Slovakia and the Czech Republic (and Poland and Ireland and ..........)are all doing so well, why are their young folk, their 'brightest and their best' leaving in droves?

Answers should not only be easy - they should be honest and accurate.

The answer (above) about global media and marketing is neither.

In Ireland, specifically, their young folk are deserting the country in droves because their economy, despite Salmond's famous "Arc of Prosperity" is on the skids.

Since the onset of the economic crisis in 2008, more than 200,000 Irish people have moved abroad. They are brothers, sisters, sons and daughters, highly qualified graduates, out-of-work labourers, farmers or IT technicians.

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By *rivate auditionsMan
over a year ago

West Midlands

Last time I looked, which was about 2 minutes ago, this was a swinging site, not a political platform for those with views based on lies, damned lies and statistics"

swingers chat is just down the corridor,second on left.

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over a year ago

", in the unlikely event of Separation, it'll be forever. A one way street. No going back. Off the cliff without a 'chute.

Last time I looked, which was about 2 minutes ago, this was a swinging site, not a political platform for those with views based on lies, damned lies and statistics

If Slovakia and the Czech Republic (and Poland and Ireland and ..........)are all doing so well, why are their young folk, their 'brightest and their best' leaving in droves?

Answers should not only be easy - they should be honest and accurate.

The answer (above) about global media and marketing is neither.

In Ireland, specifically, their young folk are deserting the country in droves because their economy, despite Salmond's famous "Arc of Prosperity" is on the skids.

I would pay more attention to your stats if you provide a comparison with the worlds largest and growing economies, enlighten us with how many people leave the usa or china each year. That would be a good economic barometer dont you think.

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over a year ago

", Since the onset of the economic crisis in 2008, more than 200,000 Irish people have moved abroad. They are brothers, sisters, sons and daughters, highly qualified graduates, out-of-work labourers, farmers r IT technicians."

Eh, did I mention Eire?

People have always left Ireland for other shores- I went once- it never stopped raining. they leave to dry out

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Eh, did I mention Eire?

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No, I did.

Nonetheless, it's an excellent example of a wee economy which has been wholly unable to cope with the demands of a 21st century world.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

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Not MY stats, the Irish governments stats, but I suppose you won't believe THEM either 'cos they have voiced support for Scottish Separation.

What can Chinese or US emigration have to do with Scotland's economic future? If we should be compared to anywhere, it should be equally small European countries which are in similar economic dog-poo to Scotland.

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over a year ago

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Not MY stats, the Irish governments stats, but I suppose you won't believe THEM either 'cos they have voiced support for Scottish Separation.

let me explain my point to you,you have quoted this stat from the irish government on the basis that it shows what could go wrong. I am asking you if you can provide any comparison with successful economies. In other words how many of their young people also choose to go live and work elsewhere in the world, this would provide perspective on the irish figures.

My advice _nny stop believing one side of the argument just because you dont like or agree with the other. Open yourself up to all information sources and question all of them. Everyone have a vested interest in the result of the referendum and most politicians will do whatever they can to get their desired result. as will the media and business interests.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

The fact you see the American and Chinese economies as successful suggests you should re-read Lipsey.

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over a year ago

"The fact you see the American and Chinese economies as successful suggests you should re-read Lipsey."

nice attempt at deflection, they were simply two nations as suggestions. Feel free to choose whichever nations you choose the same point of comparison to provide perspective applies.

this is too complex and too important a decision for anyone to simply draw a line in the sand and say im on this side no matter what so there. Far too important for the playground carry on we have been subjected to so far.

I am neither a unionist or a nationalist they are both flawed. I am a pragmatist and a patriotic scot who wants the best for his country. Not only on the basis of economics but social issues and global issues as well.

From where i stand i say read and listen to as many points of view as possible, question them and from there decide what the best choice is.

can anyone say life will be better in an independant scotland, no. But equally they cant say so about the uk either.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"......... Far too important for the playground carry on we have been subjected to so far. "

Tell Salmond to stop doing it then.

You have a very strange way of going about it.

" From where i stand i say read and listen to as many points of view as possible, question them and from there decide what the best choice is. "

Yet you only believe the ones which suit you.

"can anyone say life will be better in an independant scotland, no. But equally they cant say so about the uk either."

CAN anyone? No.

DOES anyone? Yes, every time a Separatist opens his/ her mouth.

They're talking nonsense. WE know that. THEY know that but they keep going on and on and on and on .........

Brigadoon. Free heavy beer, pie suppers in the sky. Sunshine* 365 days a year and still there's numpties out there who swally this nonsense.

*latest reports suggest the source of this sunshine will be Mr Salmond's bahookie.

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over a year ago

"......... Far too important for the playground carry on we have been subjected to so far.

Tell Salmond to stop doing it then.

You have a very strange way of going about it.

From where i stand i say read and listen to as many points of view as possible, question them and from there decide what the best choice is.

Yet you only believe the ones which suit you.

can anyone say life will be better in an independant scotland, no. But equally they cant say so about the uk either.

CAN anyone? No.

DOES anyone? Yes, every time a Separatist opens his/ her mouth.

They're talking nonsense. WE know that. THEY know that but they keep going on and on and on and on .........

Brigadoon. Free heavy beer, pie suppers in the sky. Sunshine* 365 days a year and still there's numpties out there who swally this nonsense.

*latest reports suggest the source of this sunshine will be Mr Salmond's bahookie."

and everytime instead of intelligent debate you simply want to blame alex salmond for everything, next thing you know he will be getting the blame for the boogie.

it really is pointless trying to have any kind of debate with anyone with a closed mind.

But i will leave you with one final thought, the last time we had a referendum on independance in the late 70s. Westminster took their revenge, scotlands industry, education and social structures were ravaged and its only now that we are starting to recover. Do you want to risk that again.

think about whether you want to put your faith in the politicians who look to westminster for everything including to ask what opinion they should have.

but i think i already know the answer to that.

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By *octor DeleriumMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

"I don't smoke.

But a pack of fags costs nearly a tenner and people pay it.

...even though they will at some point fucking kill you.

Everybody dies wheather they smoke or not so does it really make any difference?

Yes. Smokers die sooner and at greater cost to the NHS. "

The government loves smokers; they can tax them to buy tobacco and the income from this exceeds the cost of hospital treatments (I will dig out the figures later) and, because smokers usually die earlier than non-smokers, the government and pension providers pay out significantly less in pensions. It's a win-win situation for everybody except the smoker themselves.

Doctor Nasty

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone prescribe some amitriptyline quick! Cheap at any price

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By *mwantsWoman
over a year ago

City

Just had to add in, alot have chosen to leave. They seem happier to do the menial labour jobs that they wont do in ireland in a hot country. It's a minority that are leaving for better jobs.

Nevermind that if you look on the biggest job site that there are alot of jobs. Some people just wont do those jobs!

I wouldn't just blame the economic situation entirely. Although this has very little to do with the actual forum in the first place!

The government could give people everything and people will still Bitch and moan regardless!

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