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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

If david 'cockblock Cameron gets his way it will soon be illegal to view or posses 'images depicting any non consensual act, whether simulated or not'

This is supposed to help fight kiddie porn and rape porn which is fair enough. But 'Simulated non consensual' is a very broad term, (Think BDSM, cartoons etc)

I guess that means three quarters of fabswingers will soon be going to jail thanks to the tories, it was fun guys but I guess we'll all be experiencing the genuine article soon

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Whilst a derogation from Art 10 (freedom of expression) is permissible under the protection of public morals or safety clauses, any law would have to be proportional following EU legislation and this would not appear to be so.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

so basically the EU will tell him to stick it.

I can get that people want to protect kids from online predators.But it seems to me most people don't realise they are having their emotions manipulated for an ulterior agenda (more state control of online information, you can forget about corruption at the top being exposed if this gets the go ahead)

Still, I just hope that the EU for once proves its worth and puts the block on the cockblock lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Enable TOR on your browser, carry on perving.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Won't work, apparently the filter will block programmes like tor if you beleive the rumors.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"If david 'cockblock Cameron gets his way it will soon be illegal to view or posses 'images depicting any non consensual act, whether simulated or not'

This is supposed to help fight kiddie porn and rape porn which is fair enough. But 'Simulated non consensual' is a very broad term, (Think BDSM, cartoons etc)

I guess that means three quarters of fabswingers will soon be going to jail thanks to the tories, it was fun guys but I guess we'll all be experiencing the genuine article soon "
Really? Truly? Honestly?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If david 'cockblock Cameron gets his way it will soon be illegal to view or posses 'images depicting any non consensual act, whether simulated or not'

This is supposed to help fight kiddie porn and rape porn which is fair enough. But 'Simulated non consensual' is a very broad term, (Think BDSM, cartoons etc)

I guess that means three quarters of fabswingers will soon be going to jail thanks to the tories, it was fun guys but I guess we'll all be experiencing the genuine article soon "

An amusing summery to a serious subject the reality is people will still find what they want and if its legal there will be no problems. Its a small price to pay to stop people casually finding indecent images.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Your missing the point though, Whenever decisions like this are made it sets a precedent to those who make them. They quickly realize that they can build on them and introduce even more restrictions that most likely wasn't even the real intention to begin with, and the real question then is will we keep shrugging our shoulders every time? Where does the regulation come to a stop once you start it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm quite prepared to go to prison for it. You can smoke indoors there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Enable TOR on your browser, carry on perving."
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What's that

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

DON'T ask!

Nah, Tor is a way to browse the internet anonymously, It can be useful for people who live in super repressive countries like china etc, but its also abused by people to trade illegal stuff online

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By *lubPartyPeepsCouple
over a year ago

London


"Your missing the point though, Whenever decisions like this are made it sets a precedent to those who make them. They quickly realize that they can build on them and introduce even more restrictions that most likely wasn't even the real intention to begin with, and the real question then is will we keep shrugging our shoulders every time? Where does the regulation come to a stop once you start it? "

Quite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm quite prepared to go to prison for it. You can smoke indoors there."

not anymore

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd get a shag when I wanted one though.

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By *lubPartyPeepsCouple
over a year ago

London


"I'd get a shag when I wanted one though."

And you would get plenty when you didn't want one an all.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd get a shag when I wanted one though.

And you would get plenty when you didn't want one an all....."

Still sounds good to me....

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Actually you all seem to be quite badly informed as to the law as it stands at present.

I would suggest that you read the 2008 Criminal Justice and Immigration Act.

Sect 63, possession of extreme pornographic images. You may well be surprised at just how many images you have in your private collections fall foul of the law already! And in my opinion if the government want to ban all BDSM images they already have the primary legislation in place so a piece of secondary legislation will do. And all that requires is pen-stroke or 2 by the appropriate minister(s) to enact.

BTW to the best of my knowledge "Call me Dave caMoron" has done everything he has said he would do. So if he has said he is going to make images of BDSM illegal then the chances are they will soon be banned.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Enable TOR on your browser, carry on perving."

That's used by pedophiles and child abusers to browse illegal sites undetected ! Anyone downloading that has something to hide and should have their pc confiscated by authorities in my view

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon


"Enable TOR on your browser, carry on perving.

That's used by pedophiles and child abusers to browse illegal sites undetected ! Anyone downloading that has something to hide and should have their pc confiscated by authorities in my view"

I read an article in the paper recently about a woman who killed her husband with a rolling pin. Anyone owning one has the potential to kill someone and should have it taken away from them immediately.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Enable TOR on your browser, carry on perving.

That's used by pedophiles and child abusers to browse illegal sites undetected ! Anyone downloading that has something to hide and should have their pc confiscated by authorities in my view"

I do not use the onion but as far as I know it does not protect people using illegal sites. What it does is gives you an extra layer of protection from hacking, malware and spyware by routing your browsing through a proxy server that hides your ip address from any page you connect to unless you download a file when your ip address becomes visible to whoever your downloading the file from.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Enable TOR on your browser, carry on perving.

That's used by pedophiles and child abusers to browse illegal sites undetected ! Anyone downloading that has something to hide and should have their pc confiscated by authorities in my view

GT

I read an article in the paper recently about a woman who killed her husband with a rolling pin. Anyone owning one has the potential to kill someone and should have it taken away from them immediately."
:

Any action that deters child abuse is not an extreme

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon

TOR is a bit like using an anonymous proxy but it's actually cleverer than that.

If you use an anonymous proxy then you don't have true anonymity because all your traffic is just going through the proxy, so tyrant governments, law enforcement, etc can just get a warrant to seize the logs from the proxy company.

TOR differs because instead of just routing your internet traffic through one place, your traffic bounces across a matrix of different nodes, with different packets taking completely different routes. With the exception of entry and exit nodes, where the individual packets are reformed to what you originally sent, nobody can capture your internet traffic and piece it together to see what you were sending or what sites you were browsing.

If you ever watched the Adventure Game in the 80s then think of the inside of the TOR network as looking like the Vortex game they used to play at the end of the show

However, the really clever part is that each node within TOR is unaware of what you're sending because the entry node (which you talk to in order to connect to TOR) encapsulates the individual packets with only enough info for the node to know where to send it on to next.

It's like going to the Post Office to post a letter and the cashier putting your envelope inside another envelope addressed to the sorting office. The sorting office removes the cashier's envelope and determines it needs to go to the main distribution centre so sticks the envelope inside another envelope addressed to the distribution centre. They discard the cashier's envelope and put your envelope inside another envelope destined for the international freight at the airport... This process carries on until eventually the letter is handed to the postman (the so-called exit node in TOR) who sees the original address is on his turf so he delivers it through your letterbox.

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon


"Enable TOR on your browser, carry on perving.

That's used by pedophiles and child abusers to browse illegal sites undetected ! Anyone downloading that has something to hide and should have their pc confiscated by authorities in my view

GT

I read an article in the paper recently about a woman who killed her husband with a rolling pin. Anyone owning one has the potential to kill someone and should have it taken away from them immediately. :

Any action that deters child abuse is not an extreme"

Please don't get me wrong. I detest everything to do with child abuse. However, there are legitimate reasons to use TOR. Today's announcements were more about Public Relations than they were about genuinely addressing child abuse. At the risk of sounding like a hippie, our civil liberties are being eroded under the guise of "protecting the children".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"TOR is a bit like using an anonymous proxy but it's actually cleverer than that.

If you use an anonymous proxy then you don't have true anonymity because all your traffic is just going through the proxy, so tyrant governments, law enforcement, etc can just get a warrant to seize the logs from the proxy company.

TOR differs because instead of just routing your internet traffic through one place, your traffic bounces across a matrix of different nodes, with different packets taking completely different routes. With the exception of entry and exit nodes, where the individual packets are reformed to what you originally sent, nobody can capture your internet traffic and piece it together to see what you were sending or what sites you were browsing.

If you ever watched the Adventure Game in the 80s then think of the inside of the TOR network as looking like the Vortex game they used to play at the end of the show

However, the really clever part is that each node within TOR is unaware of what you're sending because the entry node (which you talk to in order to connect to TOR) encapsulates the individual packets with only enough info for the node to know where to send it on to next.

It's like going to the Post Office to post a letter and the cashier putting your envelope inside another envelope addressed to the sorting office. The sorting office removes the cashier's envelope and determines it needs to go to the main distribution centre so sticks the envelope inside another envelope addressed to the distribution centre. They discard the cashier's envelope and put your envelope inside another envelope destined for the international freight at the airport... This process carries on until eventually the letter is handed to the postman (the so-called exit node in TOR) who sees the original address is on his turf so he delivers it through your letterbox.

"
but if it was a registered letter you could be tracked right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Enable TOR on your browser, carry on perving.

That's used by pedophiles and child abusers to browse illegal sites undetected ! Anyone downloading that has something to hide and should have their pc confiscated by authorities in my view

GT

I read an article in the paper recently about a woman who killed her husband with a rolling pin. Anyone owning one has the potential to kill someone and should have it taken away from them immediately. :

Any action that deters child abuse is not an extreme

Please don't get me wrong. I detest everything to do with child abuse. However, there are legitimate reasons to use TOR. Today's announcements were more about Public Relations than they were about genuinely addressing child abuse. At the risk of sounding like a hippie, our civil liberties are being eroded under the guise of "protecting the children"."

What reasons? It's sounds very dodgy to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The first line of defence in protecting our children lies with the parents not the Government. Its about time many including politicians took their responsibilities seriously, this country has far to many Laws most out dated, with no-one to enforce them. Parents take responsibility of your children and what they are doing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Enable TOR on your browser, carry on perving.

That's used by pedophiles and child abusers to browse illegal sites undetected ! Anyone downloading that has something to hide and should have their pc confiscated by authorities in my view

GT

I read an article in the paper recently about a woman who killed her husband with a rolling pin. Anyone owning one has the potential to kill someone and should have it taken away from them immediately. :

Any action that deters child abuse is not an extreme"

Kill all adults to protect children from potential abusers. Is that okay with you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I share the concerns that any legislation could be abused in the future, it has happened before and no doubt will again.

as for tor am i right in thinking it was originaly developed by the american military and intelligence community ? How ironic that its being used by criminals and cyberspies.

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By *ayandess1Couple
over a year ago

bridgwater

This might be a little extreme, but think for a second. The entire country now hates the benefits mentality - even though the state benefits system only accounts for 3% of the national spend.

The smoking ban

The ability to lock up ANYONE if they are a suspected terrorist.

Media manipulation and using hate to Chanel the law.

And now they are deciding what we can and can't use the internet for.

We cant speak our mind or we risk arrent for various different reasons.

Sound familier? It should - one man in germany also introduced exactly the same policys.

Im waiting for chavs to be rounded up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh cuntybollox !!!!

I was just getting good at this roping !

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