FabSwingers.com forum: Genetically modified animals

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If, all reservations aside, animals (dogs, cats, lions, tigers, etc) could be gm'd so they stayed pups/kittens/cubs, would you have one?

I'd love a little tiger cub.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds an awful lots like my thread the other week:

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/218237

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

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I'd say an elephant but I reckon even as newborns they're a hell of a size.

I'd have to go for one of the big cats I think as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we are animals and we are slowly being genetically modified by buying and eating GM foods and meats.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd say an elephant but I reckon even as newborns they're a hell of a size."

I heard they weigh around 15 stone AT BIRTH, now that's one big ol' baby!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd say an elephant but I reckon even as newborns they're a hell of a size.

I heard they weigh around 15 stone AT BIRTH, now that's one big ol' baby!

I bet you heard that on a sex site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd say an elephant but I reckon even as newborns they're a hell of a size.

I heard they weigh around 15 stone AT BIRTH, now that's one big ol' baby!

I bet you heard that on a sex site."

You'd lose that bet, I heard it on the Discovery Channel.

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By *obletonMan
over a year ago

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"we are animals and we are slowly being genetically modified by buying and eating GM foods and meats."

is this a joke?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd say an elephant but I reckon even as newborns they're a hell of a size.

I heard they weigh around 15 stone AT BIRTH, now that's one big ol' baby!

I bet you heard that on a sex site.

You'd lose that bet, I heard it on the Discovery Channel."

one of my go to progs if im horny x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"we are animals and we are slowly being genetically modified by buying and eating GM foods and meats.

is this a joke?"

unfortunately not, just read any food labels, GM starch, Most meat is fed GM foods, and slowly we are changing, our DNA shows this,

In USA and other countries GM food is already banned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If, all reservations aside, animals (dogs, cats, lions, tigers, etc) could be gm'd so they stayed pups/kittens/cubs, would you have one?

I'd love a little tiger cub. "

No I wouldn't want one...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"we are animals and we are slowly being genetically modified by buying and eating GM foods and meats."

No, putting bad coal in a furnace may clog up the chimney but it won't change the furnace into a tree!

GM has a lot of unanswered questions but in its simple form is no different to selective breeding that has been carried out since we stopped foraging and started farming.

Anyway I want a kitten that is gm modified to grow into a dog.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If, all reservations aside, animals (dogs, cats, lions, tigers, etc) could be gm'd so they stayed pups/kittens/cubs, would you have one?

I'd love a little tiger cub. "

We have selectively bread animals for centurys already thats why you get the Chihuahua and the St Bernard both derived from the wolf. The whole gm thing isn't that far away from what we have done in the past its just having more control on the outcome. A per lion the size of a small dog might be interesting though.

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By *obletonMan
over a year ago

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"we are animals and we are slowly being genetically modified by buying and eating GM foods and meats.

is this a joke?

unfortunately not, just read any food labels, GM starch, Most meat is fed GM foods, and slowly we are changing, our DNA shows this,

In USA and other countries GM food is already banned."

I'd love to know who made this story up.

Can you cite a source for this garbage?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im currently a bear/tiger lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"we are animals and we are slowly being genetically modified by buying and eating GM foods and meats.

is this a joke?

unfortunately not, just read any food labels, GM starch, Most meat is fed GM foods, and slowly we are changing, our DNA shows this,

In USA and other countries GM food is already banned.

I'd love to know who made this story up.

Can you cite a source for this garbage?

2 good documentaries , King Corn ...Food Inc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"we are animals and we are slowly being genetically modified by buying and eating GM foods and meats.

is this a joke?

unfortunately not, just read any food labels, GM starch, Most meat is fed GM foods, and slowly we are changing, our DNA shows this,

In USA and other countries GM food is already banned.

I'd love to know who made this story up.

Can you cite a source for this garbage?

You have obviously made your mind up, why waste time reading " garbage"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"we are animals and we are slowly being genetically modified by buying and eating GM foods and meats.

is this a joke?

unfortunately not, just read any food labels, GM starch, Most meat is fed GM foods, and slowly we are changing, our DNA shows this,

In USA and other countries GM food is already banned."

Factually that utter bollocks in the USA they are big time into GM foods its some European that has an issue with it but if its a choice between 9 billion or more people going hungry its the nimbies who will eventually see sense.

Oh and there are no animals destined for slaughter fed GM foods in the UK whats the point in making facts up?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"we are animals and we are slowly being genetically modified by buying and eating GM foods and meats.

is this a joke?

unfortunately not, just read any food labels, GM starch, Most meat is fed GM foods, and slowly we are changing, our DNA shows this,

In USA and other countries GM food is already banned.

Oh and there are no animals destined for slaughter fed GM foods in the UK whats the point in making facts up?

Europe’s cows, pigs, and chickens are eating GMOs: their feed usually contains ingredients made from genetically modified plants. In addition, animal feed often has additives and enzymes that are produced with genetically modified microorganisms. Although GM animal feed must be labelled, the end products of animal production like milk, eggs, and meat do not require labelling

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"we are animals and we are slowly being genetically modified by buying and eating GM foods and meats.

is this a joke?

unfortunately not, just read any food labels, GM starch, Most meat is fed GM foods, and slowly we are changing, our DNA shows this,

In USA and other countries GM food is already banned.

Oh and there are no animals destined for slaughter fed GM foods in the UK whats the point in making facts up?

No they are not the European Parliament does not allowed GM foods to be fed to animals in the food chain dream all you like but your claims are B/S why dream it up?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"we are animals and we are slowly being genetically modified by buying and eating GM foods and meats.

is this a joke?

unfortunately not, just read any food labels, GM starch, Most meat is fed GM foods, and slowly we are changing, our DNA shows this,

In USA and other countries GM food is already banned.

Oh and there are no animals destined for slaughter fed GM foods in the UK whats the point in making facts up?

Living on a farm, I have the feed sacks with ingredients on them and they do contain GM material.

as do yogurts, sauces, and many many more foods available on the supermarket shelves, most common is maize, which is used as starch and a stabilizer.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"we are animals and we are slowly being genetically modified by buying and eating GM foods and meats.

is this a joke?

unfortunately not, just read any food labels, GM starch, Most meat is fed GM foods, and slowly we are changing, our DNA shows this,

In USA and other countries GM food is already banned.

Oh and there are no animals destined for slaughter fed GM foods in the UK whats the point in making facts up?

Living on a farm, I have the feed sacks with ingredients on them and they do contain GM material.

as do yogurts, sauces, and many many more foods available on the supermarket shelves, most common is maize, which is used as starch and a stabilizer."

You can feed them what you like on your farm but animals fed with GM crops can't enter the food chain so stop dreaming it up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just want my tail back, why would you loses such a useful thing as a tail.

Lucky Bloody Ape's

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

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I'm generally against GM food, unless there is some compelling research based evidence that can change my mind - but it's not a completely unbiased stance that I take. Why?

Genetic modification is a long way from the breeding that occurs naturally and under man's control, where selective traits are maintained and improved upon in plants and animals. GM is alteration of intricate pieces of DNA, and there appears to be no way to limit its perpetuation, once it has been created and thus released into the world.

I'm happy that genes selectively and naturally mutate, and thus genetic modification happens now and has for millions of years. But I am against humans interfering down at such a micro-level. By adjusting one part of a species genetic material, we don't really know what the long-term ramifications may be, should that genetic material either mutate, or get some other modification, and we aren't able to control this. Once released upon the world, the new genetic material is out there and could be part of the building blocks for anything. This may include devastation or loss of species in the wild, or overall limitations in the genetic diversity that naturally supports a strong healthiness within the wild. It's possible that the GM alterations could wipe out much of the natural variation, and this could in essence prove a weakness for species, further down the line.

I'm also largely against crop GM adjustments, as it's been shown that the material does release into the wild, and causes damage to wildlife. We know already with problems, such as the bee Colony Collapse Disorder, that many species have their fate and strength potentially on a knife edge, and we don't know that much about what may influence essential to mankind's needs (as well as pollination of much of our plant life) to be devasted. I'd rather not risk such delicate balance to the likes of greedy corporations who care little about nature, and only about money.

Many third world farmers become like slaves to these GM crop companies, as they are no longer able to save their own seeds, for re-planting the following year, as the crops are altered to not produce seeds for farmers. This whilst pesticide use can be ramped up massively, as some GM crops have -killer resistance. We thus create a dependency on these parasitic corporations, who don't care about the long term damage to the world with massive amounts of chemicals used on crops. This is not to mention how these chemicals can damage our health, water systems etc.

So, any GM development should be strictly controlled and only permitted under much stricter conditions than currently exist. I'd prefer a body such as the UN needing to give approval for any work, so that the implications for the world are considered before any genetic modification starts.

If you think it's like plant and animal breeding programmes, you are very wide of the mark. Animal genetic code can be placed into other animals, virus into plants, etc etc. The perfect storm of the next major killer flu virus could be consumed within a bird, ready to cross the species barrier and infect the world. Worse still, we wouldn't know how natural mutation could make things even worse afterwards. It's potentially very damaging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In Europe there is a huge demand for cheap animal feed. It is estimated that 85% of the EU’s

compound feed production now contains GM or GM-derived material. Animal feeds based on GM

soya and maize are increasingly being perceived as the cheapest and most readily available.

Most non-organic animal products are therefore fed a large proportion of GM feed.

study by the University of Sussex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most meat is fed GM foods, and slowly we are changing, our DNA shows this,

In USA and other countries GM food is already banned."

Your information is faulty, USA embraces GM crops and is in fact the biggest exporter of GM crops world wide, a few counties in California and one county in Washington state have banned them but they are a tiny proportion.

The vast majority of GM work is combining high yield properties of variety A with disease / drought resistance of varieties B & C. one of the main issues is that the developing companies then want to make the resulting plant sterile so that you have to buy the next years seed from them to make them a profit.

As for GM in history... Apples would not exist without selective cross breading nor would Friesian cattle from which the bulk of milk in use world wide is obtained, they were just done over long periods of time by selection and careful breading to obtain the high efficiency / taste that was desired.

We are still a long way from breading the sage and onion ready stuffed turkey, but turkeys we eat today have very little relationship to the wild bird they originated from, and no scientists were involved in that change.

As for our modified DNA that has a lot more to do with evolution and environmental pollutants than it does with the relatively short term exposure to GM food stuffs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"we are animals and we are slowly being genetically modified by buying and eating GM foods and meats.

is this a joke?

unfortunately not, just read any food labels, GM starch, Most meat is fed GM foods, and slowly we are changing, our DNA shows this,

In USA and other countries GM food is already banned.

Oh and there are no animals destined for slaughter fed GM foods in the UK whats the point in making facts up?

Living on a farm, I have the feed sacks with ingredients on them and they do contain GM material.

as do yogurts, sauces, and many many more foods available on the supermarket shelves, most common is maize, which is used as starch and a stabilizer.

You can feed them what you like on your farm but animals fed with GM crops can't enter the food chain so stop dreaming it up."

LOL a bit like saying shops haven't been selling horse and donkey meat instead of beef,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"we are animals and we are slowly being genetically modified by buying and eating GM foods and meats.

is this a joke?

unfortunately not, just read any food labels, GM starch, Most meat is fed GM foods, and slowly we are changing, our DNA shows this,

In USA and other countries GM food is already banned.

Oh and there are no animals destined for slaughter fed GM foods in the UK whats the point in making facts up?

Living on a farm, I have the feed sacks with ingredients on them and they do contain GM material.

as do yogurts, sauces, and many many more foods available on the supermarket shelves, most common is maize, which is used as starch and a stabilizer.

You can feed them what you like on your farm but animals fed with GM crops can't enter the food chain so stop dreaming it up.

LOL a bit like saying shops haven't been selling horse and donkey meat instead of beef,

They have been selling beef with traces of horse meat in we all know about that but thats besides the point you are dreaming stuff up stating they GM products are banned in the US when even my 11yr old nephew knows they are not screams you lack real knowledge.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

why on earth would anyone want a wild animal thats been modified to stay small?

its still a wild fekkin animal lol.

if a jack russell can rip things to bits, then im sure a 2 foot tall lion or tiger can still rip your throat out as you sleep.

ok, you cant put your head in its mouth, but it can sure as hell try.

no, i wouldnt want anything genetically modified, unless it was kebabs that made you slimmer lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just want my tail back, why would you loses such a useful thing as a tail.

Lucky Bloody Ape's

Apes don't have tails.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"I'd say an elephant but I reckon even as newborns they're a hell of a size.

I heard they weigh around 15 stone AT BIRTH, now that's one big ol' baby!

Yeah you'd never get nappies to fit!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd say an elephant but I reckon even as newborns they're a hell of a size.

I heard they weigh around 15 stone AT BIRTH, now that's one big ol' baby!

Yeah you'd never get nappies to fit!

You wouldn't use nappies you'd use bin liners

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what does an elephant use as a vibrator

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By *obletonMan
over a year ago

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You have obviously made your mind up, why waste time reading " garbage""

I enjoy a good laugh at the expense of alarmist pseudoscientific loonies - so I definitely wouldn't consider reading the sources you cite for you claims to be a waste of time.

please, cite your source

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By *obletonMan
over a year ago

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2 good documentaries , King Corn ...Food Inc

I haven't seen Food Inc, but I've seen the King Corn.

I have no recollection of anyone claiming, or presenting any evidence, that eating GM food alters our DNA.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeeha !!! back to short stupid comments

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeeha !!! back to short stupid comments "

lol its at times like this I'm glad I haven't subscribed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyway where is my kitten dog? I was promised a kitten that grew into a dog I know I was.....

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

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2 good documentaries , King Corn ...Food Inc

I haven't seen Food Inc, but I've seen the King Corn.

I have no recollection of anyone claiming, or presenting any evidence, that eating GM food alters our DNA.

Your DNA changes everytime, and of course your bodies change with certain foods etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would like a lambchickencow please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just want my tail back, why would you loses such a useful thing as a tail.

Lucky Bloody Ape's

Apes don't have tails, monkeys do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just want my tail back, why would you loses such a useful thing as a tail.

Lucky Bloody Ape's

Apes don't have tails, monkeys do

Apetail soup !...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyway where is my kitten dog? I was promised a kitten that grew into a dog I know I was....."

Now this is an interesting concept , a kitten that grows into a dog and buries its own sh*t !

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