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By *MOOTH AND ROUGH OP   Couple
over a year ago

tamworth

Hi men need a bit of help/advice please I've been going gym since July and go 5 /6 times aweek I started off by doing cardio and lost 3 stone in 3 months (went from 18st 12 to 15st 10 diet dramatically changed when started gym). Now I still have a bit of a belly and the instructor said I should start using weights to help tone my muscle up so been doing weights on alternate days to cardio for last three weeks. The thing is my belly still looks the same and my weight is going up and down by a couple of lbs each week when I weigh my self ,I know muscle weighs heavier than fat but I'm starting to get peed off that my belly is not shifting and not losing weight , should I stick to cardio till belly is flat then tone up or keep mixing cardio and weights and carry on hoping that I will loose my inches rather than weight

Thanks for reading

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Id love to be able to help but...fancy a chip?

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Oh and well done you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hi men need a bit of help/advice please I've been going gym since July and go 5 /6 times aweek I started off by doing cardio and lost 3 stone in 3 months (went from 18st 12 to 15st 10 diet dramatically changed when started gym). Now I still have a bit of a belly and the instructor said I should start using weights to help tone my muscle up so been doing weights on alternate days to cardio for last three weeks. The thing is my belly still looks the same and my weight is going up and down by a couple of lbs each week when I weigh my self ,I know muscle weighs heavier than fat but I'm starting to get peed off that my belly is not shifting and not losing weight , should I stick to cardio till belly is flat then tone up or keep mixing cardio and weights and carry on hoping that I will loose my inches rather than weight

Thanks for reading "

Stop going altogether for a while, eat healthily and let your body stabilise for a while

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You mean you've just been dieting and doing cardio with no weight exercises?

When you diet, you're essentially starving yourself. Up to a point this is ok if you have a lot of fat to lose, but there comes a point where the bodies survival mechanisms kick in (as it thinks you're literally starving) and it starts to eat lean tissue (ie muscle) instead. This is why its important that when exercising, you do plenty of weightlifting too, as this will greatly slow the rate of muscle lost, and you could even consider easing up on the diet and cardio too if you do decide to pursue the weights, and you'll find the extra muscle you build will increase your metabolism.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Would sit ups and abs training help?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Or one of those slender toning machines. Do they get rid of belly flab?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In a word, no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can't spot lose fat, it'll come off where it wants not where you want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"or keep mixing cardio and weights and carry on hoping that I will loose my inches rather than weight

Thanks for reading "

Actually yes.

Do your cardio after your weights you'll burn more fat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can't spot lose fat, it'll come off where it wants not where you want.

"

This is also true, especially not belly fat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Weight training is the fastest way to lose fat as the muscle you build need constant food and will use the fat to maintain muscle mass.

You have to eat the right foods e.g. protein and avoid avoid carbs/sugary stuff at night as what the body doesn't need gets stored as fat. Try and prepare fixed portions of meals that's just enough to keep you going till next meal time.

You could try doing more abs exercise or low intensity cardio where you keep your heart rate low as this also helps to burn fat. There's loads of info on the net or get a few sessions with a pt who will show you the right moves

Hope this helps.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can't spot lose fat, it'll come off where it wants not where you want.

This is also true, especially not belly fat. "

Spot reduction has been long proven to be a myth.

You want to lose belly fat, you have to lose bodyfat, and you do that by either reducing your calorie intake, increasing your calorie expenditure, or both - doing hundred of sit ups is useless.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"You can't spot lose fat, it'll come off where it wants not where you want.

This is also true, especially not belly fat.

Spot reduction has been long proven to be a myth.

You want to lose belly fat, you have to lose bodyfat, and you do that by either reducing your calorie intake, increasing your calorie expenditure, or both - doing hundred of sit ups is useless."

You can have the best 6 pack ever, but if its under a layer of fat you won't be able to see it. Lose the fat by eating clean, doing weights, and doing HIIT cardio. Then concentrate more on the weights and do less cardio. Keep eating protein to keep your energy up for the weight training.

I am also trying to get rid of a belly, but after childbirth I reckon its going to be tough. Good luck!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cut out the carbs, you will never see the muscles until the fat is gone. Check your bmi. You will need to be at the bottom end of the range.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Buy a slendertone - much less fannying about cos u can sit down AND eat donuts at the same time. It does all the work for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Feck knows, i have a beer drinking arm....

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By *mwstaffsMan
over a year ago

brownhills

I believe the body stores fat around the organs and thats what causes the belly , heard on radio a few months back a good way of getting rid of it is running up a hill as hard as you can a few times and walking slowly down as the rest period

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By *MOOTH AND ROUGH OP   Couple
over a year ago

tamworth


"or keep mixing cardio and weights and carry on hoping that I will loose my inches rather than weight

Thanks for reading

Actually yes.

Do your cardio after your weights you'll burn more fat.

Do you mean straight after weights do cardio work out on sameday not next day

Many thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Make sure your doing your dieting correctly 500 calories below maintenance calories and do HIIT training for example sprint as fast as you can for 90 sec then walk for 60 sec repeat for 20min, I also do HIT weight training which is like a cardio workout itself lots of super sets 15-20 reps and 30-60 sec rest between each set.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cut down on the pies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the problem is more long term all the flappy bits are loose skin. it will take a long time for it to shrink

well done to you for all the hard work. I my self am down to 15 stone ish (96kg) from 19 stone ish (112kg) at my biggest. although I am now a 38 inch waist from a 44inch waist I still see my belly as being big instead of thinking my old jeans fall off me so try looking at the positive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Eat healthy, cut out the 'treats'. The rest will take care of itself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Eat healthy, cut out the 'treats'."

You say that like its easy - I once almost managed to press an 80kg bag of cement overhead, that was nothing compared to cutting out all the things I enjoy eating

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Eat healthy, cut out the 'treats'. The rest will take care of itself. "

Sadly its true treats and unhealthy snacks are many peoples downfall.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Eat healthy, cut out the 'treats'. The rest will take care of itself.

Sadly its true treats and unhealthy snacks are many peoples downfall. "

Yep. I have fallen into the trap of thinking my exercise burns off a lot more than it does so allow myself extras more than I should. I've taken to writing every thing I eat down. Even if I ate 2 mushrooms while prepping dinners etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Eat healthy, cut out the 'treats'. The rest will take care of itself.

Sadly its true treats and unhealthy snacks are many peoples downfall. "

Very true but it's just mental discipline that is needed.

Silk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Alternate cardio, weights and toning.

Try to eat healthy as that is probably the hardest of all.

And rest ! As stupid as it sounds a day or 2 off helps your body and muscles recover, theres only so much ripping you can do in a week let your body recover.

Keep at it, don't give up and the misses will love you for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Steroids

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By *tm660Man
over a year ago

southampton

Ok for one you need a a good diet high protein low carbs. The reason why you are putting on weight is because your doing weights ie putting muscle on and that will put more weight on as muscle weighs more than fat. You wont see good progress for a while but will happen slow just eat right train hard and you will see benefits and progression.

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By *tm660Man
over a year ago

southampton

Have one rest day a week or 2 at the mosttt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stop wasting your time on swingers sites and get your arse down the gym and start training

Eat clean train hard and play dirty simple as that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hi men need a bit of help/advice please I've been going gym since July and go 5 /6 times aweek I started off by doing cardio and lost 3 stone in 3 months (went from 18st 12 to 15st 10 diet dramatically changed when started gym). Now I still have a bit of a belly and the instructor said I should start using weights to help tone my muscle up so been doing weights on alternate days to cardio for last three weeks. The thing is my belly still looks the same and my weight is going up and down by a couple of lbs each week when I weigh my self ,I know muscle weighs heavier than fat but I'm starting to get peed off that my belly is not shifting and not losing weight , should I stick to cardio till belly is flat then tone up or keep mixing cardio and weights and carry on hoping that I will loose my inches rather than weight

Thanks for reading "

You'll probably find different instructors at the gym have different areas they specialise in. Since you're there often, check them out and ask their advice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

When you diet, you're essentially starving yourself. "

Twaddle. It totally depends on the type of diet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fat loss = calories in vs calories out, eat more to gain weight, eat less to lose weight, there's really little more to it that than.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would recommend not using your weight as your point of measurement, find out your body fat percentage and use that as a measurement, it will be more accurate for what you want and give you a true measure of your bodies recomposition.

Going by weight alone it can be disheartening when progress slows, stops or reverses and at this point many give up, by using body fat percentage you can see how much of it really is fat loss slowing down and how much is muscle gain and keep yourself motivated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fat loss = calories in vs calories out, eat more to gain weight, eat less to lose weight, there's really little more to it that than."

It is so much more than that, but it is a starting point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Steroids"

Monoids

If you like the 60's, Beatles and others.

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By *MOOTH AND ROUGH OP   Couple
over a year ago

tamworth


"the problem is more long term all the flappy bits are loose skin. it will take a long time for it to shrink

well done to you for all the hard work. I my self am down to 15 stone ish (96kg) from 19 stone ish (112kg) at my biggest. although I am now a 38 inch waist from a 44inch waist I still see my belly as being big instead of thinking my old jeans fall off me so try

looking at the positive "

Well done I've gone from 42 waist in jeans to a 36 waist so I know it's working but just disheartened that for last month or so it's not shifting

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By *MOOTH AND ROUGH OP   Couple
over a year ago

tamworth


"Ok for one you need a a good diet high protein low carbs. The reason why you are putting on weight is because your doing weights ie putting muscle on and that will put more weight on as muscle weighs more than fat. You wont see good progress for a while but will happen slow just eat right train hard and you will see benefits and progression. "

Thanks for the advice might have to up my game

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fat loss = calories in vs calories out, eat more to gain weight, eat less to lose weight, there's really little more to it that than.

It is so much more than that, but it is a starting point.

"

Not really, you'll find that though cutting out various food groups and altering insulin sensitivity can make a slight difference, most nutritionists still conclude that fat loss essentially comes down to calories in vs calories out.

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By *andsomechappyMan
over a year ago

london. herts. easex beds

some good advice already given - i tried to pm you some good tips if you send me a messagei can forward you the info

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hi men need a bit of help/advice please I've been going gym since July and go 5 /6 times aweek I started off by doing cardio and lost 3 stone in 3 months (went from 18st 12 to 15st 10 diet dramatically changed when started gym). Now I still have a bit of a belly and the instructor said I should start using weights to help tone my muscle up so been doing weights on alternate days to cardio for last three weeks. The thing is my belly still looks the same and my weight is going up and down by a couple of lbs each week when I weigh my self ,I know muscle weighs heavier than fat but I'm starting to get peed off that my belly is not shifting and not losing weight , should I stick to cardio till belly is flat then tone up or keep mixing cardio and weights and carry on hoping that I will loose my inches rather than weight

Thanks for reading "
try steep hill climbs the sort u know by the time u hit the top ul b f*cked. That 3 times a week. Sit ups with the arms straight out above the head with a comfortable weight, keep arms straight out while doing sit ups Do I make sense?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sit ups with the arms straight out above the head with a comfortable weight, keep arms straight out while doing sit ups Do I make sense? "

Anyone look to train their abs would be better off doing crunches rather than sit ups, that transfer most of the weight into the hips. When you crunch, you shouldn't be lifting your upper back much more than a couple of inches off the floor, and as you do this, try and imagine you're pushing your belly button down toward the floor, this will get the best contraction in the abs.

Holding a dumbbell with your arms outstretched is also a good idea to increase resistance (I'd just get bored doing 100 crunches), and you should use a weight that allows you to get no more than around 20 reps.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Fat loss = calories in vs calories out, eat more to gain weight, eat less to lose weight, there's really little more to it that than."

There can be a lot more if you factor in the effects of insulin in the body. People who are insulin resistant need to control carbs, and high protein diets work much better for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A good alternative to a lot of the other ideas, all good though , would be to try a Kettle Bell class. You'll get a good mix of workouts with weights and cardio exercise too, along with a range of motions, squats, lunges etc. Which will all help to tone

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


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Not really, you'll find that though cutting out various food groups and altering insulin sensitivity can make a slight difference, most nutritionists still conclude that fat loss essentially comes down to calories in vs calories out."

The trouble is most nutritionists are way behind on medical research, and even the medical profession are really slow to accept new thought. If your insulin is normal, calories may be way more improtant, but if you are resistant, you would literally have to starve to lose weight without restricting carbs. Insulin is a 'storage' hormone - body builders should be able to manipulate that to their advantage, but those seeking to burn their own fat may find that just does not happen until insulin is controlled.

Interestingly there is an 'epidemic' of insulin resistance among horses too, and exactly the same principles apply.

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)


"Hi men need a bit of help/advice please I've been going gym since July and go 5 /6 times aweek I started off by doing cardio and lost 3 stone in 3 months (went from 18st 12 to 15st 10 diet dramatically changed when started gym). Now I still have a bit of a belly and the instructor said I should start using weights to help tone my muscle up so been doing weights on alternate days to cardio for last three weeks. The thing is my belly still looks the same and my weight is going up and down by a couple of lbs each week when I weigh my self ,I know muscle weighs heavier than fat but I'm starting to get peed off that my belly is not shifting and not losing weight , should I stick to cardio till belly is flat then tone up or keep mixing cardio and weights and carry on hoping that I will loose my inches rather than weight

Thanks for reading "

Do what the glitteratti do,, liposuction and tummy tuck,,

Seriously though the body stores fat historically we ve needed to because of famine, men generally store their fat around the gut, ladies tend to be lower around the hips, diet exercise and perseverance good luck,,

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By *MOOTH AND ROUGH OP   Couple
over a year ago

tamworth


"Hi men need a bit of help/advice please I've been going gym since July and go 5 /6 times aweek I started off by doing cardio and lost 3 stone in 3 months (went from 18st 12 to 15st 10 diet dramatically changed when started gym). Now I still have a bit of a belly and the instructor said I should start using weights to help tone my muscle up so been doing weights on alternate days to cardio for last three weeks. The thing is my belly still looks the same and my weight is going up and down by a couple of lbs each week when I weigh my self ,I know muscle weighs heavier than fat but I'm starting to get peed off that my belly is not shifting and not losing weight , should I stick to cardio till belly is flat then tone up or keep mixing cardio and weights and carry on hoping that I will loose my inches rather than weight

Thanks for reading

Do what the glitteratti do,, liposuction and tummy tuck,,

Seriously though the body stores fat historically we ve needed to because of famine, men generally store their fat around the gut, ladies tend to be lower around the hips, diet exercise and perseverance good luck,, "

Thanks for you reply

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