FabSwingers.com forum: £200

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

For new mothers in high street shopping vouchers split into £120 at 6 weeks then £80 at 6 months if they sign to say they have breast fed.

I think it's total madness as lots of new mums struggle to breast fed. A stressed mum makes a stressed baby , a happy mum makes a happy baby. Breast is not always best.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No its not possible for some and how can they do it some will sign to say they are even if they arnt.

Although its a nice thought will they also make sure there are enough breast feeding councillors for those that struggle.... As from experience the midwifes sometimes dont have the time to show you properly i was lucky enough to have my sister on hand when i struggled and got mastitis.

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By *awty bi coupleCouple
over a year ago

Wet Walsall

But should the government really be giving out financial incentives for people to do this?

As previously said, in some cases, it's the mum's choice not to, sometimes it's extremely difficult or painful and in some cases, the baby doesn't want to latch on and prefers a bottle. Plus, how do they expect to be able to 'police' it? Is the government planning to allocate a Health Visitor to 'live in' with these new mums for the duration of the qualification period, to ensure that there is no cheating? I really doubt that!

It feels 'almost' like the financial "incentive" that has, in some cases in the past, been given to truanting/ disruptive kids to keep them attending school. School attendance is a legal obligation and the state shouldn't have to resort to this.

I know I went off on a bit of a tangent there about kids but basically, this country's financial position isn't particularly good at present and to be offering these financial 'rewards' is just going to be yet another burden on the taxpayers. which can, as ever, easily be fraudulently claimed.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I must admit I'm struggling to figure out how it's going to be policed, are they only going to give it once mum has fed baby in front of counter?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im signing up......just need to borrow a baby

What? times are hard and christmas is round the corner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its also very hard to keep it up for 6 months i couldnt have with the boys as it bacame too much for me and no matter how i tried i couldnt express...and with the hobbit i was back at work she had to be mix fed....good luck to those that can but i can see this falling flat on its face.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Im signing up......just need to borrow a baby

What? times are hard and christmas is round the corner

I'm in luck there will be a baby available soon for me to borrow , ah actually it's not due till 5 days after Christmas. How inconsiderate. Any one got any tips on how to induce labour

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By *awty bi coupleCouple
over a year ago

Wet Walsall

Will expressing breast milk and feeding via a bottle count?

Ohhhh there are soooooo many loopholes growing in this latest tangled 1970s tanktop that the government are TRYING to knit. I think they should give it up as a bad idea and find ways to save the country's economy, not ways to put even more pressure on it.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Is this really the Conservative way these days?

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Is this really the Conservative way these days?"

Yep. Bribes for those they approve of. Sanctions for those they don't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's a great idea as some don't even try... If it helps encourage breastfeeding for longer then it has to be a good thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

can we apply for this retrospectively??? If so it's a fantastic idea!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They could all say yes to doing it. And unless they can check on each individual mother, how will they know if she does it or not?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

What a disgusting idea. What about all the mums who are unable to breast feed. They are already made to feel like social lepers, now they will be financially worse off as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ya can get an awful lotta tinned sprouts for £200 ya know

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think it's a great idea as some don't even try... If it helps encourage breastfeeding for longer then it has to be a good thing

Oh and what an incentive, I'm going to breast fed because I'm going to get £200, nothing to do with it being good for baby.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With more and more people opting to not even try I can't see it being bad... I've just had a heated duscusion with my future daughter in law. As she is bottle feeding from day one.. I am trying to convince her to try.. she says no as it will make her have saggy boobs...

Anything that encourages mums to breastfeed is a good thing to me..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"With more and more people opting to not even try I can't see it being bad... I've just had a heated duscusion with my future daughter in law. As she is bottle feeding from day one.. I am trying to convince her to try.. she says no as it will make her have saggy boobs...

Anything that encourages mums to breastfeed is a good thing to me.. "

Why would you even get involved though, it's not your baby and mum will do what she thinks is best for her and her baby.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

I think its utter bollocks!!

I was never planning on having kids and had my breast op 5 years ago. They way they had to do my op meant they had to do a fair bit of chopping around in there and I was warned that I might not produce milk. No problem

As I wasn't going to have kids anyway.

After a contraception failure I fell preg and gave bf a try. But I couldn't. So what about those mums that truly try and for one reason or another cannot?

The money would be better spent having more trainee bf helpers that can go to new mums after the birth and show them what to do. I know so many new mums who have wanted to bf but after being in agony, not being able to get the correct latch etc have given up when they couldn't get a midwife round to show them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anything that encourages mums to breastfeed is a good thing to me..

Why would you even get involved though, it's not your baby and mum will do what she thinks is best for her and her baby. "

Because I feel that all mums should try.. to decide while still pregnant with stupid reasons for not even considering it... And she obviously has no knowledge on it and if I can convince her to try or atleast make sure it's an informed decision she could perhaps not miss out on something that can be beautiful.

Not all mums can feed but I do think at least that first feed should be encouraged... As that's the important one..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never tried to breast feed, and with the amount he drank I would never have coped anyway!

He was on nearly twice the average milk intake from about 2 weeks old and then by 6 weeks the midwife said I had to move him to extra hungry formula because the regular wasn't giving him enough of what he needed

I think it's silly giving more money to those who breast feed, it's the ones who don't who need more money to be able to get the extra bottles, formula, etc!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Breast feeding has to be best in most cases, it saves a fortune on medical intervention, illness and also the cost of manufactured replacement milk,

Mothers milk is full of nutrients, antibodies and bacteria, that strengthen a new borns immune system.

I see this most days on the farm, foals, in fact every animal living on their mothers milk, is stronger, healthier and cheaper to raise.

There will always be exceptions of course, if a mother isn't well, doesn't produce enough milk, possibly a hereditry problem.

Bottle feeding can cause problems, besides health, prevents the new born bonding with it's mother and vice versa.

We live in a time when everything is about greed and convenience, in the farming world its become the norm to remove the baby from its mother and feed it man made "milk " pumped full of anti biotics and bacteria to replace the mothers milk. Resulting in many young animals with behaviour problems,

luckily for them they are destined to become meat within 12 / 20 weeks.

Anything that can be done to encourage natures way has to be a good thing.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Anything that encourages mums to breastfeed is a good thing to me..

Why would you even get involved though, it's not your baby and mum will do what she thinks is best for her and her baby.

Not all mums can feed but I do think at least that first feed should be encouraged... As that's the important one..

I'm not saying breast isn't good for baby what I am saying people trying to force their views down other peoples mouths is wrong. For whatever reason mums decided to feed the way they want and for me as long as both mum and baby are happy that's all that matters.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"They could all say yes to doing it. And unless they can check on each individual mother, how will they know if she does it or not?

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they'll check all her loyalty cards and credit card and bank statements to see if she has bought formula

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At the end of the day, its about education and choice, you have to be educated to make the best choices in life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I never tried to breast feed, and with the amount he drank I would never have coped anyway!

I think it's silly giving more money to those who breast feed, it's the ones who don't who need more money to be able to get the extra bottles, formula, etc!"

You would have made enough milk.. my son was a hungry baby.. on solids early.. I had to feed every two hours to start..

Maybe they could use this money to better educate pregnant women about it... But as I say..if it encourages them to try... Some that may never have tried might give it ago. We have one of the lowest rates if breastfeeding in Europe..

So many myths and misconceptions... Some can't.. but there should be more help and good advice and support..

It always seems to be that if your pro breastfeeding you are rubbing it in the face of those that can't... I do not see it as that... and eeven if you can't for whatever reason why feel that positive encouragement of breastfeeding is a slight against you.

I fed all 6 yet struggled with two.. one I had to admit defeat and give expressed milk from a bottle.. I wasn't encouraged with my first.. and was expressing while away from him. It wasn't easy.. but I kept at it.

I just hope it encourages some that wouldn't normally try to do so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anything that encourages mums to breastfeed is a good thing to me..

Why would you even get involved though, it's not your baby and mum will do what she thinks is best for her and her baby.

Not all mums can feed but I do think at least that first feed should be encouraged... As that's the important one..

My mum tried to force me to 'at least try', then she soon backtracked when - after my gut instinct told me not to try - it was the right choice

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"At the end of the day, its about education and choice, you have to be educated to make the best choices in life."

You have to be a mother first to make the best choice for you and your baby, nothing at all to do with being educated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is this really the Conservative way these days?"

If it saves money on the health service, produces stronger, better adjusted children, yes its the conservative way, and bloody good business sense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I never tried to breast feed, and with the amount he drank I would never have coped anyway!

I think it's silly giving more money to those who breast feed, it's the ones who don't who need more money to be able to get the extra bottles, formula, etc!

You would have made enough milk.. my son was a hungry baby.. on solids early.. I had to feed every two hours to start..

So many myths and misconceptions... Some can't.. but there should be more help and good advice and support..

I just hope it encourages some that wouldn't normally try to do so. "

That's fair enough, but my midwife told me I wouldn't have coped as I had almost no milk to give anyway as I wasn't producing

As I said on the other post, I had a gut instinct that it wasn't a good idea and I was right, but that's just my case

Not everything is that easy where they can just give something a go

I (like others have said) don't feel someone should be pressured to try something just because others believe it to be right to them and cause unnecessary stress

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"At the end of the day, its about education and choice, you have to be educated to make the best choices in life.

You have to be a mother first to make the best choice for you and your baby, nothing at all to do with being educated. "

Without knowledge you are not equipped to make the best choice for you or your baby,

If that was the case many many girls would not become pregnant and pass their child onto someone else to pay for and care for.

Ignorance and a lack of knowledge is responsible for many pregnancies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"At the end of the day, its about education and choice, you have to be educated to make the best choices in life.

You have to be a mother first to make the best choice for you and your baby, nothing at all to do with being educated. "

Of course it is... Before mother's had advise many miscarried from eating unpasteurized foods.. now we know.. education is important. In all aspects of life. In my future daughter in laws case she has decided due to things she has heard from friends.. she hasn't looked at facts..

She also wants to feed baby enough.. and has been told by a mate that she may need hungry baby food.. so she needs to learn more.

It's personal choice but we are not born knowing all and no matter how much you think you know you can always learn more.

However I think with Laura it's more her mum, she never breastfed... Or her sister... Or her friends... So if this money made her consider it. Id be happy and have said I would help best I could.