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By *lentyoffun40 OP Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

Woman on there gets caught runni g from the police and a stolen car

6 months pregnant

Paramedic " this your first child"?

Woman "no 6th"

Paramedic " where are your kids tonight ?"

Woman "all in care "

Arghhhhh if there's one thing in life that makes my blood boil .. This is it

Should be sterilised by law !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why...?

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By *lentyoffun40 OP Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

"Why...?"

Why what?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because they've comprehensively proved that they're unfit to be parents.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Women don't get pregnant on their own.

It was the baby in the police station that made me upset. Poor little soul.

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By *lentyoffun40 OP Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

"Women don't get pregnant on their own.

It was the baby in the police station that made me upset. Poor little soul."

She shouldn't have been allowed to get pregnant

1 child in care ... Warning

2 .... Sterilised !

Simple

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By *oudnproudWoman
over a year ago

penrith

The woman who had twins that was also her 6th child the others in care... x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

when i had my first a Lady kept falling asleep in the bed Opposite which of course is easily done after giving birth. well she almost Dropped the Baby off the bed a few Times and i was getting so worried.however. the Baby was Taken away as had all her Other ten children. she had been taking Heroin in the toilets on post Natal ward. Was so upsetting. really was.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why...?

Why what?"

Why should the law sterilise them...?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd rather live in a society that takes someone's 6th child in to care than a society that thinks sterilising people is perfectly acceptable and justifiable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This whole series has been fascinating,ive really enjoyed watching it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Women don't get pregnant on their own.

It was the baby in the police station that made me upset. Poor little soul.

She shouldn't have been allowed to get pregnant

1 child in care ... Warning

2 .... Sterilised !

Simple"

Its a bit harsh she might have had issues a bad partner or something else in the past and over it now.

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

"Women don't get pregnant on their own.

It was the baby in the police station that made me upset. Poor little soul.

She shouldn't have been allowed to get pregnant

1 child in care ... Warning

2 .... Sterilised !

Simple"

Now where has the idea been trialled before, some time in the 1930's I think. Think it was a European country but name escapes me......no wait it was Germany

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Women don't get pregnant on their own.

It was the baby in the police station that made me upset. Poor little soul.

She shouldn't have been allowed to get pregnant

1 child in care ... Warning

2 .... Sterilised !

Simple"

Sterilised???

For fucks sake

Who are the police to play god?

Kind of ideas from 1939 achtung!!!

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By *lentyoffun40 OP Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

"Women don't get pregnant on their own.

It was the baby in the police station that made me upset. Poor little soul.

She shouldn't have been allowed to get pregnant

1 child in care ... Warning

2 .... Sterilised !

Simple

Sterilised???

For fucks sake

Who are the police to play god?

Kind of ideas from 1939 achtung!!! "

I think your referring to something totally different

If you only knew the damage that being in care does to a person you would rethink

Fuck the mothers rights .. She's getting a chance 2 chances in fact . And in this low life's case 6 chances

She's swanning around on benefits in a stolen car whilst her children suffer

Not knowing why they can't be with mum

Anybody can have a tough time

Drugs and alcohol dependency

Mental health problems , domestic violence .. So yes some children will unfortunately need to become likes after .. But why should we as a society allow women to create babies when they can't take care of them ?

You get a pet dog or cat and get caught treating it cruelly ... You can get a lifetime ban from having animals

Yet you treat children like they are nothing and what happens? Oh it's ok we as a society will look after them at an average cost of £200 ,000 per year

So that women on tv is costing the taxpayer over a million pound a year and you think that's ok?

More than the finance is the cost to that poor child

Despite best efforts by la's looked after children are more likely to end up in custody, more likely to fail exams , more likely to become themselves single parents

So for you who are slating the comment on sterilisation

Instead of chatting nonsense about Germany and 1930

Come back to the modern day and real world and offer a appropriate solution !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would hardly say Germany and 1930 was nonsense.But saying that yes some people do need help. But you can't stop free will. Were do you stop? Who chooses who can and carnt have children?

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By *lentyoffun40 OP Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

"I would hardly say Germany and 1930 was nonsense.But saying that yes some people do need help. But you can't stop free will. Were do you stop? Who chooses who can and carnt have children?

Nonsense in relation to this argument . I think it's easy . If the rules/ laws are in place we all know them . If you have more than 2 children taken off you then you should be prevented from having more children .

Whether that's through sterilisation or some other form of birth control

What I'm saying is most of the young people I know in care have several brothers and sisters

It's heartbreaking for them

Can't understand why we are so sympathetic towards these people and allow children to be suffering

Take a look at Michael gove's speech today about child protection

He's spot on what he is saying !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

+ 1 for the OP and posts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with you no child should suffer and I also agree there some people who are a complete waste of skin that shouldnt be allowed to breath let alone breed.but unfortunatley it would count as marshal law what you want to do.

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By *ex.IncCouple
over a year ago

Castleford

The other half is a paramedic and brings home some really bad stories. What you have seen on the programme is only scratching the surface. But yes..it was sad to see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

+ 1 for the OP and posts. "

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By *lentyoffun40 OP Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

"I agree with you no child should suffer and I also agree there some people who are a complete waste of skin that shouldnt be allowed to breath let alone breed.but unfortunatley it would count as marshal law what you want to do."

Sorry but I don't agree. Have another look at the definition for martial law .

What I do agree on is it does seem a tad extreme

But so what ? What's the alternative? We can't keep burying our heads in the sand just because there's no other reasonable answer

Anyone got one?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you like the idea of state funded sterilisation,I'm sure n Korea will accept you.

Sterilising against will ,will never happen and rightly so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I totally agree with the op, think its not right that people should be allowed to carry on producing kids for them to end up in care, where the child feels unloved and unwanted n like something Is wrong with them, if youve got 6 kids and they're all in care you know the chances are that if you have anymore they will end up in care too.

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By *lentyoffun40 OP Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

"If you like the idea of state funded sterilisation,I'm sure n Korea will accept you.

Sterilising against will ,will never happen and rightly so.

So what's the answer? And why is the thought of sterilising someone who has had 6 kids all in care so wrong?

Lots of criticism but no sign of any other solutions offered!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why...?

Why what?

Why should the law sterilise them...?

Because in the long run it costs every tax payer a lot of money. Add to that the trauma of the unwanted children, who all end up in care and because it takes so long for adoption to take place the children are usually quite troubled themselves. This then gives a knock on affect that when they grow up and have kids themselves they usually have very little parenting skills (because of their bad start in life) and so the circle continues!!!

Easy saying it's the womans Human Rights, but what about the Human Rights of all these unwanted little children?

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By *lentyoffun40 OP Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

"Why...?

Why what?

Why should the law sterilise them...?

Easy saying it's the womans Human Rights, but what about the Human Rights of all these unwanted little children?"

At last !!! Well said !

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By *amie0151Man
over a year ago

Wallasey

Woman on there gets caught runni g from the police and a stolen car

6 months pregnant

Paramedic " this your first child"?

Woman "no 6th"

Paramedic " where are your kids tonight ?"

Woman "all in care "

Arghhhhh if there's one thing in life that makes my blood boil .. This is it

Should be sterilised by law !!! "

I'll vote for you if you ever run for PM

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Woman on there gets caught runni g from the police and a stolen car

6 months pregnant

Paramedic " this your first child"?

Woman "no 6th"

Paramedic " where are your kids tonight ?"

Woman "all in care "

Arghhhhh if there's one thing in life that makes my blood boil .. This is it

Should be sterilised by law !!!

I'll vote for you if you ever run for PM

Yes I agree people can be banned from having dogs but one can breed as many feral children as one likes. At some point the cycle of breeding for benefits or through total irresponsibility needs to be broken. I can accept one mistake but 6 !!!!.

Care is not an ideal place to bring up children!!!!

Wait till next year when this country is a wash with thousands of Roma and their children living wild breeding for benefits. No wonder this country us skint !!!!!

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By *lentyoffun40 OP Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

Woman on there gets caught runni g from the police and a stolen car

6 months pregnant

Paramedic " this your first child"?

Woman "no 6th"

Paramedic " where are your kids tonight ?"

Woman "all in care "

Arghhhhh if there's one thing in life that makes my blood boil .. This is it

Should be sterilised by law !!!

I'll vote for you if you ever run for PM

Care is not an ideal place to bring up children!!!!

Wait till next year when this country is a wash with thousands of Roma and their children living wild breeding for benefits. No wonder this country us skint !!!!!"

True . Nigel farage did make the same point on last Thursdays question time

A point that seemed reasonable but he was shouted down by those with their heads in the clouds!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe we should adopt the way Japan deal with it, they are only allowed two Children per family now.

But then that would mean that everyone would have the perfect family and how bloody boring that would be.

My father was one of 12 and my mother was one of 10 but then rules were strict amongst families then unlike now because they have taken away our parental rights to tell our children off the way they should be.

It's heart breaking when you see children being taken away from parents but really there is nothing we can do but stand back and watch it happen because it is all about peoples rights so basically it's a case of If you take my baby away i will have another and another.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What's the alternative? We can't keep burying our heads in the sand just because there's no other reasonable answer

Anyone got one? "

Don't know if it's a reasonable answer or not... but what about contraceptive implant under license, can be removed / not refreshed when / if that person changes life and could be a good parent. Sterilisation is a life sentence and does not allow for change.

Those that are taken into care early are the winners in these situations, it's the ones who don't get found and are neglected or worse where I would feel the need to carry out some sort of enforcement.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Maybe we could just allow the blond haired blue eyed kids to survive and let the others starve.

We'd soon reduce demand for jobs (which don't exist), demand for houses (which don't exist) and access to NHS services (which are creaking under the strain).

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

"If you like the idea of state funded sterilisation,I'm sure n Korea will accept you.

Sterilising against will ,will never happen and rightly so.

So what's the answer? And why is the thought of sterilising someone who has had 6 kids all in care so wrong?

Lots of criticism but no sign of any other

solutions offered!"

I think there are more qualified people out there who can advise on solution. Forced sterilisation was undertaken by Nazi Germany, are you seriously advocating we go down that road? Where do we go next? Sterilisation of those with hereditary diseases? The mentally ill? Wrong on so many levels.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You know Britain, America and most of the western world had Eugenics programs just like the nazis, many of then continuing long after the war unlike Germanys.

It not a case of us starting down that road we already went down it, fortunately we turned around and came back.

You could argue that the nazis did the a good turn because of the absolute horror and revulsion they inspired something which was commonly considered a good idea became barbaric because of the association with them, even though they weren't the first to do it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people have no shame anymore

they dont care about anyone but themselves ,

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Why...?"

Because she wasnt wearing flat shoes and a shell suit.

Pretty irresponsible THAT if you ask me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I totally agree with the op, think its not right that people should be allowed to carry on producing kids for them to end up in care, where the child feels unloved and unwanted n like something Is wrong with them, if youve got 6 kids and they're all in care you know the chances are that if you have anymore they will end up in care too. "

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By *lentyoffun40 OP Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

"Maybe we could just allow the blond haired blue eyed kids to survive and let the others starve.

We'd soon reduce demand for jobs (which don't exist), demand for houses (which don't exist) and access to NHS services (which are creaking under the strain)."

You do oftentalk some nonsense

I'm not advocating for a blanket sterilisation of women

My argument is there is a massive problem and it needs addressing

To often we sit back and shake our heads at stuff like this but nobody has the balls to offer a solution

We as a society have multi agency working which would now make things like I suggest possible

I.e a woman has a child ... Whatever reason the child becomes looked after . Judge the case on its merits and evidence

She has another child that is again taken into care ... Again lets look at what is going on - multi agency working to assess the needs of the mum .

She has another child then I'm sorry . We as a society have a responsibility . And that responsibility shouldn't be turning a blind eye and shrugging our shoulders saying ah well there's nowt we can do

Bullshit there's a lot we can do .

In order that the woman can get in with life she will need support to gain education training or employment or failing that she will be in receipt of benefits

She should firstly be convinced that either long term contraception or sterilisation is needed . Educate her as to why . She can make an informed choice

If along the way agencies support her to make the right decisions then this will be worth it financially for the tax payer and for te lives of children who would have ended up in the care system .

If by her choice she declines to accept that what she is doing is wrong then we have a judicial system that can judge each case on the merits and act accordingly !

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Maybe we could just allow the blond haired blue eyed kids to survive and let the others starve.

We'd soon reduce demand for jobs (which don't exist), demand for houses (which don't exist) and access to NHS services (which are creaking under the strain).

You do oftentalk some nonsense

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Anyone, well almost anyone, would think I was doing it on purpose

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Maybe we could just allow the blond haired blue eyed kids to survive and let the others starve.

We'd soon reduce demand for jobs (which don't exist), demand for houses (which don't exist) and access to NHS services (which are creaking under the strain).

You do oftentalk some nonsense

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Anyone, well almost anyone, would think I was doing it on purpose

Onny!!! a Troll!!! I would never have believed it

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