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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

A good thing ? or a bad thing ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A good thing ? or a bad thing ? "

in my opinion there a bad thing because if you do not work more than 16 hrs a week you cannot pay your stamp however you not counted on the government figures therefore you can't claim anything

how are the young uns going to get a foot on the property ladder if your income is not guaranteed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can claim jsa for the weeks you have zero hours, means signing on and off all the time and each new claim can take 2 weeks to process x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

for some they are great...like the semi retired who are just working to keep busy and for extra holiday money - for others they are shite...like those who need a regular income.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it depends who you work for, some companies use them to exploit people and just pick them up and drop them at will without paying out any benefits when they are no longer needed

The company i work for do zero hour contracts but i think that's so they can put more work on you, i do 12 hours a day, 7 days on 1 off, theres no way they could make me work those hours if i did have a contract, i start work at 6am, i finish at 10pm, i do split shifts befor anyone says that not 12 hours, i do two 6 hours a day, 6am till 12pm, then im back on at 4pm till 10pm i know how picky you lot are by the time i get home its 10.30pm and i get up at 5.15an to do my first call at 6am that's only that's only 6 hours and 45 mins between getting home and getting up the next day, if i was contracted that would be illegal

they can go either way not enough hours or two many

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If i really put what i think about this i could end up in trouble so will keep simple its a fucking disgrace and way of letting employment rights and min wage watered down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

very bad keep well away from them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can claim jsa for the weeks you have zero hours, means signing on and off all the time and each new claim can take 2 weeks to process x"

what a pain that is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

IMO a terrible idea as what's the point of having a job if you don't get paid? It's a cop out to get the unemployment figures down

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By *exycleanerWoman
over a year ago

pontefract

i applied for a job as a home carer but not go for the interview as the zero hours contract that applies in this industry and that cant guarantee you hours put me off the job

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

Deff a no no in my opinion! Often minimum wage, dont pay sick leave or holiday.. Give you loads of hours at first then use you and lucky if get a few hours a week ..Had family caught up in this horrible cycle...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it depends who you work for, some companies use them to exploit people and just pick them up and drop them at will without paying out any benefits when they are no longer needed

The company i work for do zero hour contracts but i think that's so they can put more work on you, i do 12 hours a day, 7 days on 1 off, theres no way they could make me work those hours if i did have a contract, i start work at 6am, i finish at 10pm, i do split shifts befor anyone says that not 12 hours, i do two 6 hours a day, 6am till 12pm, then im back on at 4pm till 10pm i know how picky you lot are by the time i get home its 10.30pm and i get up at 5.15an to do my first call at 6am that's only that's only 6 hours and 45 mins between getting home and getting up the next day, if i was contracted that would be illegal

they can go either way not enough hours or two many"

if your happy then no problem however that does not seem fair to me can you relax properly on your 4 hr break in between your two 6 hrs shifts ?

and add on the 45 mins before and the 30 mins afterwards means your day is 17 hrs 15 mins long.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a scam and con and will not last long !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it depends who you work for, some companies use them to exploit people and just pick them up and drop them at will without paying out any benefits when they are no longer needed

The company i work for do zero hour contracts but i think that's so they can put more work on you, i do 12 hours a day, 7 days on 1 off, theres no way they could make me work those hours if i did have a contract, i start work at 6am, i finish at 10pm, i do split shifts befor anyone says that not 12 hours, i do two 6 hours a day, 6am till 12pm, then im back on at 4pm till 10pm i know how picky you lot are by the time i get home its 10.30pm and i get up at 5.15an to do my first call at 6am that's only that's only 6 hours and 45 mins between getting home and getting up the next day, if i was contracted that would be illegal

they can go either way not enough hours or two many

if your happy then no problem however that does not seem fair to me can you relax properly on your 4 hr break in between your two 6 hrs shifts ?

and add on the 45 mins before and the 30 mins afterwards means your day is 17 hrs 15 mins long."

Im happy with the hours i do, i was just making a point that not all companies use zero hour contracts as a way of not ensuring hours, i get sick pay and 28 days a year paid holiday, i've been with my company 2 years now and never had a shortage of hours

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By *ts artMan
over a year ago

Londonderry


"If i really put what i think about this i could end up in trouble so will keep simple its a fucking disgrace and way of letting employment rights and min wage watered down."

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

They are disgusting, immoral things. They are used to avoid employment legislation and have the tacit approval of all the political parties because they also hide and reduce unemployment figures and costs.

They allow caMoron to claim that the private sector has created 1.2 million jobs since he came to power while the reality is that we (the UK) are now working less hours than in 2010.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As an top hat wearing cynical capitalist employer, they seem a wonderful idea, and I've seriously considered using them as sometimes I need lots of people, other times not so much.

As a regular person, I can't bring myself to do that to someone, so employ various people on a very casual basis as I need them, all duly reported to HMRC, or course!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it depends who you work for, some companies use them to exploit people and just pick them up and drop them at will without paying out any benefits when they are no longer needed

The company i work for do zero hour contracts but i think that's so they can put more work on you, i do 12 hours a day, 7 days on 1 off, theres no way they could make me work those hours if i did have a contract, i start work at 6am, i finish at 10pm, i do split shifts befor anyone says that not 12 hours, i do two 6 hours a day, 6am till 12pm, then im back on at 4pm till 10pm i know how picky you lot are by the time i get home its 10.30pm and i get up at 5.15an to do my first call at 6am that's only that's only 6 hours and 45 mins between getting home and getting up the next day, if i was contracted that would be illegal

they can go either way not enough hours or two many

if your happy then no problem however that does not seem fair to me can you relax properly on your 4 hr break in between your two 6 hrs shifts ?

and add on the 45 mins before and the 30 mins afterwards means your day is 17 hrs 15 mins long.

Im happy with the hours i do, i was just making a point that not all companies use zero hour contracts as a way of not ensuring hours, i get sick pay and 28 days a year paid holiday, i've been with my company 2 years now and never had a shortage of hours "

no you must be happy or you wouldn't work those hours and fair play to you for getting out there and working if anything i think you need a few more days off as compensation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I a happy with my Zero Hours contract works well for me

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By *lentyoffun40Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

It's disgusting

Another con to make it look like employment is better than it is

A con by large companies to save money

We are living in a fucked up country that's going backwards not forwards

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How do families manage?

Its dreadful.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"for some they are great...like the semi retired who are just working to keep busy and for extra holiday money - for others they are shite...like those who need a regular income. "

Agreed.

They can provide a retired person with a small income which might suit them. A few hours here and there and maybe job share for maternity cover etc.

It can also allow an employer to tap into the corporate knowledge a former employee has gathered over the years.

Done properly, it can be a win-win but both parties have to want it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All I know is we got back from a nice hol... To a letter for Danny... Sorry no more hours for you.... Really left us up shit creek!!

Tried various benefits etc... And sorry other half earns too much you are entitled to nothing... And btw my wages are erm not very much at all....

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By *ittall2020Man
over a year ago

Norwich

There is a major risk that employers exploit this. Somebody should start a union just for zero hour contracted people.

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By *ussyGalore and Mr OCouple
over a year ago

A House

Ok if you're already working and just want to top up your hours as and when, retired or a student who just wants the odd shift.

I currently work under a zero hour contract and it is crap, the managers use it to threaten people, saying if you don't do this that and the other we won't give you anymore shifts. The turnover of staff is very high and I have suddenly been demoted all because I don't lick the managers arse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i used to run a nightclub, we wouldn't be able to operate if the staff weren’t on zero hour contracts (myself included)

the takings varied so much from night to night we just didn't know how many staff we would need.

i knew my team well - mostly students, and when we had quiet nights i would go round and ask who wanted to go home, usually i would get a few volunteers and everyone was happy.

I imagine if zero hour contracts were not an option, we would have to go through a temp agency. This would achieve the same effect, but resulting in random staff members, poor customer service, H&S / training problems, increased costs, and poor morale due to a non-gelled team.

This might be the exception to the rule, but most the staff (and me) were happy with the arrangement. Other industries may be different.

On a side note, I was later employed as a temp, working 39 hours consistently for a year in the same job. Effectively a permanent employee, but with no security and none of the perks. I looked into the legal status of that, and the government had had a review, with the owner of a temping firm speaking in our interests – that’s a load of crap!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am on a zero hour contract with my day job in the construction industry, great when there is loads of work, but as soon as it goes quiet, its "sorry lads no work on this week" which means no pay.

Personally I think they should be made illegal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A good thing ? or a bad thing ? "

Bad. It makes the company/country sound better than they actually are. The colleague has no security and can't plan his time or finances. Due to having so many people on their books. The company will try and spread all the hours out. Leaving the rest of the workers short of hours and no one is happy. Employ what you need and stick to it is my attitude.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Zero hour means you can't get working tax credits etc. A lot of the Xmas temp shop jobs I went for were zero hour or less than 16 hr. No good for me as a single parent. So still stuck signing on for now

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

For extra work yes, not for those that need a stable income

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would never work on one I think it's madness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shocking we returned from hols sorry no work for the other half he'd bent over backwards for the company!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would never work on one I think it's madness."

Some times you have no choice, if you want some income coming in

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By *imon_hydeMan
over a year ago

Stockport

Perfect for my son, he's 17 and at college works at Domino's. Let's him pick a shift around football and parties.

A fucking nightmare for the majority of people though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are disgusting, immoral things. They are used to avoid employment legislation and have the tacit approval of all the political parties because they also hide and reduce unemployment figures and costs.

They allow caMoron to claim that the private sector has created 1.2 million jobs since he came to power while the reality is that we (the UK) are now working less hours than in 2010. "

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By *octor DeleriumMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough


"It's disgusting

Another con to make it look like employment is better than it is

A con by large companies to save money

We are living in a fucked up country that's going backwards not forwards "

I totally agree, we're almost back to the Victorian workhouse.

The rich become more wealthy, politicians are likely to get an 11% pay rise and the remainder have had their incomes reduced by the rate of inflation over the past six years.

Doctor Nasty

Zero pay increase for six years.

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