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"? I use CSA on line calculator, simples" I'm not sure she is asking how much she will get | |||
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"Men have " rights " aswell." Of course man power and all that jazz | |||
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"Men have " rights " aswell." Very much in inverted commas | |||
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"Men have " rights " aswell." Men have a duty to ensure that their children want for nothing. It was they were born to do. | |||
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"? I use CSA on line calculator, simples I'm not sure she is asking how much she will get " And didn't say how much I pay | |||
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"Didn't you mention this 2 weeks ago? Guessing it's not going in your favour? " Perhaps because it should go in the children's favour | |||
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"? I use CSA on line calculator, simples I'm not sure she is asking how much she will get And didn't say how much I pay " Well it's your responsibility being a father regardless of the issues that may occur with the mother...the same for single fathers the mother has a duty to contribute to the up bringing of the child.. | |||
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"Didn't you mention this 2 weeks ago? Guessing it's not going in your favour? " got a letter after that saying he should pay 71 a week including arrears to just have a call saying actually you entitled to nothing as he working and not earning more than a £5 a week.....i mean who works and doesnt get paid | |||
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"got told ex back at work n should be paying 71 a week for two children by letter yesterday then phone call just now saying hes actually earning less than a £5a week so dont have to pay a penny" Their fone lines close @ 8pm. How come u got a fone-call after 8pm? Must b paying over-time @ the offices? LMAO. | |||
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"My experience of them - they're a bunch of fuk wits who - dont have any clue about the back ground to any case - go for a court order the first chance they get - ignore any contact from the opposite party snd hide behind their phones - deliberatly piss you then accuse you of being aggressive - are a waste of time!!" | |||
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"? I use CSA on line calculator, simples I'm not sure she is asking how much she will get And didn't say how much I pay Well it's your responsibility being a father regardless of the issues that may occur with the mother...the same for single fathers the mother has a duty to contribute to the up bringing of the child.." Could do without being patronised too. Don't want that to sound harsh but C/o other threads and the darling sisterhood I'm gonna find myself back on the naughty step for a long time if I go on. | |||
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"I wanted my daughter to live with me desperatly. I wanted to support her. I now have contact as she lives with me permanently as she is now grown up. The csa destroyed my life and helped a vindictive ex wife to unfairly punish both me and my daughter. The csa lie and are divisive. I hate them and every inhumane employee who works for them. Thankfully i have a fabulous relationship with my daughter depite them. They helped steel15 years of what could have been a decent relationship between us. If uou have not guessed i hate and always will hate them. Rob" True six numbers on the lottery can't buy back those ruined and lost years. I salute you for hanging in there though. It's a real shame, (a crime against humanity in fact) that some dads are faced with no other choice than to give up their fight to be a dad to the children they love so much | |||
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"Men have " rights " aswell.Men have a duty to ensure that their children want for nothing. " I agree that a father should provide for his children but that should go on the children and not the mother! " It was they were born to do." Disagree. A father isnt just a bank account and is just as responsible as the mother for raising a child. Sorry OP i've gone off topic from your thread. I apologise but have been at the receiving end of lies and bull$hit over such an issue. Good luck to you with your situ | |||
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"My ex thought she was hard done by and went to the CSA. They assessed her maintenance at £30 a week less than she was getting. Result " I know of several blokes who this ha happened to. Darling ex has been greedy. Asking for more all the time. Has gone to CSA and ended up with less than she was getting of dad independently | |||
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"I wanted my daughter to live with me desperatly. I wanted to support her. I now have contact as she lives with me permanently as she is now grown up. The csa destroyed my life and helped a vindictive ex wife to unfairly punish both me and my daughter. The csa lie and are divisive. I hate them and every inhumane employee who works for them. Thankfully i have a fabulous relationship with my daughter depite them. They helped steel15 years of what could have been a decent relationship between us. If uou have not guessed i hate and always will hate them. Rob" feel your pain bud | |||
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"? I use CSA on line calculator, simples I'm not sure she is asking how much she will get And didn't say how much I pay Well it's your responsibility being a father regardless of the issues that may occur with the mother...the same for single fathers the mother has a duty to contribute to the up bringing of the child.. Could do without being patronised too. Don't want that to sound harsh but C/o other threads and the darling sisterhood I'm gonna find myself back on the naughty step for a long time if I go on. " How have I patronised you? As for being the sisterhood I see from both sides thank you very much...there are many women just as men that shy away from responsibilities in raising their children... | |||
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"I have and always have had my son 3 nights and days a week. Yet they take 69 quid a week off me, and refuse to discuss a review. Leaves me on my arse but won't let it stop me seeing my boy. His mother is on her 15th weekend away as I type, yet I'm on my arse" thats a lot - i presume they take 3/7ths of the maintenance calculation too? | |||
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"I have and always have had my son 3 nights and days a week. Yet they take 69 quid a week off me, and refuse to discuss a review. Leaves me on my arse but won't let it stop me seeing my boy. His mother is on her 15th weekend away as I type, yet I'm on my arse" I'm sure there is something that if you have your child over certain amount of days it's reduced. It's worth seeking some advice as it's unfair that you pay if you are having your son half a week... | |||
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"The government took a massive amount of my mo thly payments. I had my daughter 3 days a week. The payment i paid for my daughter had my exs social taken out then what was left went to my ex. The first 70 each week my daughter didnt see, the government had for her social. She gave up her job. Didnt need to, i offered to baby sit whenever she needed because i was desperate to see my daughter. I made many extra payments on top and paid for many many extras. I was called a feckless dead beat dad.If you are male you have no chance and no rights" There are many fathers and mothers that are treated unfairly...I was pregnant and he did a runner lost the baby but I was prepared to do it on my own then beg for any payments from someone...keep your chin up and remember kids turn into adults and have their own mind | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 01/11/13 20:57:29]" I didn't mean you directly when I mentioned the sisterhood. They're about all the time though. And whilst it's very very sad for children it's good that the truth is coming out on a thread in these forums. Discussing my personal circumstances has got me on the naughty step though. There are unfortunately some, not you, when faced with the truth spit the dummy out and hit the report button. And I appreciate this is hijacking the OP soz. I hope circumstances are sorted and the children can have a meaningful relationship with both their parents. | |||
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"I have and always have had my son 3 nights and days a week. Yet they take 69 quid a week off me, and refuse to discuss a review. Leaves me on my arse but won't let it stop me seeing my boy. His mother is on her 15th weekend away as I type, yet I'm on my arse" Have you tried the on line calculator? | |||
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"Depite the csa i have a fantastic relationship with my daughter. They do not hace the childs interest at heart. There are feckless women as well as blokes, but being male is a massive disadvantage. People say they cant do so and so. They can. Common sense and fairness is not something the csa abide by. They fleece the decent caring fathers and let the uncaring ones pay nothing because they'd have to get off their arses and do there job propely. " Like I said in my first post I believe that the system is flawed... | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 01/11/13 20:57:29] I didn't mean you directly when I mentioned the sisterhood. They're about all the time though. And whilst it's very very sad for children it's good that the truth is coming out on a thread in these forums. Discussing my personal circumstances has got me on the naughty step though. There are unfortunately some, not you, when faced with the truth spit the dummy out and hit the report button. And I appreciate this is hijacking the OP soz. I hope circumstances are sorted and the children can have a meaningful relationship with both their parents. " Never tar women with the same brush...the same as I don't with men.. | |||
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"i think every absent parent should pay towards their child no matter if its the dad or mum ....its not money for me as i see it but to help towards school trips annd anything they need ....not asking him to support my house n help pay my bills....i do that willing cus its mine responsibilty ....but we made our children so it should be both of us supporting them " | |||
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"I wanted my daughter to live with me desperatly. I wanted to support her. I now have contact as she lives with me permanently as she is now grown up. The csa destroyed my life and helped a vindictive ex wife to unfairly punish both me and my daughter. The csa lie and are divisive. I hate them and every inhumane employee who works for them. Thankfully i have a fabulous relationship with my daughter depite them. They helped steel15 years of what could have been a decent relationship between us. If uou have not guessed i hate and always will hate them. Rob" | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 01/11/13 20:57:29] I didn't mean you directly when I mentioned the sisterhood. They're about all the time though. And whilst it's very very sad for children it's good that the truth is coming out on a thread in these forums. Discussing my personal circumstances has got me on the naughty step though. There are unfortunately some, not you, when faced with the truth spit the dummy out and hit the report button. And I appreciate this is hijacking the OP soz. I hope circumstances are sorted and the children can have a meaningful relationship with both their parents. Never tar women with the same brush...the same as I don't with men.." That's why I'm saying I didn't mean you. I can see you're not one of the ball crushers. The acrimonious family law system in this country has got a lot to answer for. We could go on, and, of course | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 01/11/13 20:57:29] I didn't mean you directly when I mentioned the sisterhood. They're about all the time though. Discussing my personal circumstances has got me on the naughty step though. There are unfortunately some, not you, when faced with the truth spit the dummy out and hit the report button. " You assume somebody else can get you a ban...they can't, it is what YOU write on a post that gets you a ban. If someone disagrees with what you say, they are doing just that, disagreeing, if you can't accept people do that on a forum then maybe the forum isn't the place for you. Lastly, constant talk about a previous ban will end up with another ban, so the best thing to do if you dispute a ban is do what the rules ask and send your feedback to Admin themselves and ask them to look into it. | |||
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"I had one child, the ex the other. When csa were assessing us the ex's payments to me was very low. The lady at the csa told me, ""I shouldn't say this but you should appeal", I did and the ex's payments were doubled. The bitch was livid lol. So my experience with csa; as a man, was a good one. ." If you are a man why are you on a females profile | |||
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"I had one child, the ex the other. When csa were assessing us the ex's payments to me was very low. The lady at the csa told me, ""I shouldn't say this but you should appeal", I did and the ex's payments were doubled. The bitch was livid lol. So my experience with csa; as a man, was a good one. . If you are a man why are you on a females profile " lol, the CSA and other benefits are better, | |||
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"Why would they need to take money off the parent with care? That's the problem with some parents (on both sides)money brings out the worst in some people. " So that both parents contribute equally? | |||
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"Why would they need to take money off the parent with care? That's the problem with some parents (on both sides)money brings out the worst in some people. So that both parents contribute equally? " How do you know if the parent with care pays less towards the upbringing of the child/ren or even more? Or are you just making generalisations about single mothers sat at home counting their benefit money all day long? | |||
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"A thread slams the CSA (rightly so) and naturally some members have to make it an issue of "ex is bitch" blah blah blah. Child support has nothing to do with access but a percentage of income to support the child/ren. For some it works but for many it is hugely problematic." Csa doesn't care that both parents who by their justification of it are responsible for feeding and Financially providing for have Access to said child who by no fault of their own has been the centre of a battle for cash. Not fair to blame the woman all the time but in reality and il probably get slammed for this women hold all the cards when it comes to children and although law dictates fathers have rights at a staggering £185 an hour it is very difficult for us guys to get the necessary help to see our child or children when the woman doesn't come to an agreement on access rights | |||
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"? I use CSA on line calculator, simples I'm not sure she is asking how much she will get And didn't say how much I pay Well it's your responsibility being a father regardless of the issues that may occur with the mother...the same for single fathers the mother has a duty to contribute to the up bringing of the child.." Shame some parents do not see what is really so simple. If you really want to knock lumps out of your ex for whatever reason do not put your kids in the middle or even anywhere near for that matter. | |||
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"I love the csa, I pay them and have absolutely no contact with the ex, Yes their an incompetent bunch but I'd rather talk to them than the ex, " You've summed them up and just how I feel! | |||
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"has going through these ever worked for anyone ....after 18 months of been told one thing then another ...i now give up .....hate been lied to !!!!!!!!" Seems to work for men having to pay put more than needed! | |||
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"I wanted my daughter to live with me desperatly. I wanted to support her. I now have contact as she lives with me permanently as she is now grown up. The csa destroyed my life and helped a vindictive ex wife to unfairly punish both me and my daughter. The csa lie and are divisive. I hate them and every inhumane employee who works for them. Thankfully i have a fabulous relationship with my daughter depite them. They helped steel15 years of what could have been a decent relationship between us. If uou have not guessed i hate and always will hate them. Rob True six numbers on the lottery can't buy back those ruined and lost years. I salute you for hanging in there though. It's a real shame, (a crime against humanity in fact) that some dads are faced with no other choice than to give up their fight to be a dad to the children they love so much " +1 | |||
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"I wanted my daughter to live with me desperatly. I wanted to support her. I now have contact as she lives with me permanently as she is now grown up. The csa destroyed my life and helped a vindictive ex wife to unfairly punish both me and my daughter. The csa lie and are divisive. I hate them and every inhumane employee who works for them. Thankfully i have a fabulous relationship with my daughter depite them. They helped steel15 years of what could have been a decent relationship between us. If uou have not guessed i hate and always will hate them. Rob True six numbers on the lottery can't buy back those ruined and lost years. I salute you for hanging in there though. It's a real shame, (a crime against humanity in fact) that some dads are faced with no other choice than to give up their fight to be a dad to the children they love so much " +1 | |||
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"I have and always have had my son 3 nights and days a week. Yet they take 69 quid a week off me, and refuse to discuss a review. Leaves me on my arse but won't let it stop me seeing my boy. His mother is on her 15th weekend away as I type, yet I'm on my arse thats a lot - i presume they take 3/7ths of the maintenance calculation too?" Yes that's how they're working it. | |||
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"i would always suggest mediation and then court before involving the csa. unfortunately my brother is being dry humped because he is too spineless to take his nasty caniving ex to court to get proper visitation in writing for his kids. he sees them a lot (he works 4 on 4 off and has them on his days off) but hands over £250 a month and pays extras, plus obviously spoils them rotten when they are with him. he says it aint worth the fuss, but doesnt seem to realise that she will take them away whenever the feeling takes her (and has done in the past) SOME women are pure evil where children are concerned, as much as SOME absent fathers are complete tossers! " My situation was virtually identical and I was paying her money (£300pm) and still buying clothes, shoes, days out and having them at mine at least 4 nights a week. Last week I was granted full custody but she will only pay £185pm and refuses to pay anything else. To be honest I'm not surprised or bothered, I know they'll be safe and well looked after (as they were with their mother). I could have pushed for more but is it worth dragging out any misery and upset when in the long run its the kids that will suffer? | |||
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"I have and always have had my son 3 nights and days a week. Yet they take 69 quid a week off me, and refuse to discuss a review. Leaves me on my arse but won't let it stop me seeing my boy. His mother is on her 15th weekend away as I type, yet I'm on my arse thats a lot - i presume they take 3/7ths of the maintenance calculation too? Yes that's how they're working it. " 15% of net income for child (20% for two and 25% for three). Wow I want your wage (I get less a month than you do a week). | |||
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"I get my maintenance through the CSA every month." Even though my children live with me half the time I pay in accordance with the CSA on line calculator | |||
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"A thread slams the CSA (rightly so) and naturally some members have to make it an issue of "ex is bitch" blah blah blah. Child support has nothing to do with access but a percentage of income to support the child/ren. For some it works but for many it is hugely problematic. Csa doesn't care that both parents who by their justification of it are responsible for feeding and Financially providing for have Access to said child who by no fault of their own has been the centre of a battle for cash. Not fair to blame the woman all the time but in reality and il probably get slammed for this women hold all the cards when it comes to children and although law dictates fathers have rights at a staggering £185 an hour it is very difficult for us guys to get the necessary help to see our child or children when the woman doesn't come to an agreement on access rights " Agree with you there. | |||
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"Men have " rights " aswell." I'm no aware the CSA is an agency working for just women? | |||
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"The CSA are, in my humble opinion, a valuble tool for parasitic women to just try to fleece even more money out of the ex when the lazy bitches, who wanted a divorce in the first place, should get off their fat asses and earn their own money in life instead of leeching off a man they no longer want to be with. Men should support their own children, not have them used to enhance the ex and her new partners lifestyle. " The way im being treated im better off on the dole!! | |||
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