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"........... A well prepared, half intelligent criminal ............. " That's a beast you don't find too often. | |||
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"........... A well prepared, half intelligent criminal ............. That's a beast you don't find too often." Lmao they're as rare as a wild haggis! | |||
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"And actually if anyone has actually worked in these places it's not all its made out to be " Worked where-a prison? | |||
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"........... A well prepared, half intelligent criminal ............. That's a beast you don't find too often." I've known some dumb ones that have got away with a lot more than they ever got caught for though... It's only when they've done some really silly shit like kidnapping and shooting someone that the police really went after them... The police once swapped a scanner they'd seized off of them for a gun... They knew they had it but after a series of early morning armed raids still couldn't find it so they did a swap. | |||
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"........... A well prepared, half intelligent criminal ............. That's a beast you don't find too often. I've known some dumb ones that have got away with a lot more than they ever got caught for though... It's only when they've done some really silly shit like kidnapping and shooting someone that the police really went after them... The police once swapped a scanner they'd seized off of them for a gun... They knew they had it but after a series of early morning armed raids still couldn't find it so they did a swap. " Did they really? (where's the sarcasm smiley?). | |||
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"........... A well prepared, half intelligent criminal ............. That's a beast you don't find too often. Lmao they're as rare as a wild haggis! " You reckon? Lets face it, the average squaddie ain't that bright, but look what they can achieve when they have things drummed into them from an early age... Not all criminals are dumb fucks that get their mugs on police camera action... | |||
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"And actually if anyone has actually worked in these places it's not all its made out to be Worked where-a prison?" Yep x | |||
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"........... A well prepared, half intelligent criminal ............. That's a beast you don't find too often. Lmao they're as rare as a wild haggis! You reckon? Lets face it, the average squaddie ain't that bright, but look what they can achieve when they have things drummed into them from an early age... Not all criminals are dumb fucks that get their mugs on police camera action..." Agreed. Some appear on Prime Minister's Questions. | |||
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" Did they really? (where's the sarcasm smiley?)." Yep, do you think the police would rather have a bunch of violent crack heads running round with a gun they couldn't find or a scanner. Wasting time and money sending armed police to raid their house everyday when they weren't stupid enough to stash it in their own houses... | |||
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"........... A well prepared, half intelligent criminal ............. That's a beast you don't find too often. Lmao they're as rare as a wild haggis! You reckon? Lets face it, the average squaddie ain't that bright, but look what they can achieve when they have things drummed into them from an early age... Not all criminals are dumb fucks that get their mugs on police camera action..." That was a little unnecessary... | |||
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" Did they really? (where's the sarcasm smiley?). Yep, do you think the police would rather have a bunch of violent crack heads running round with a gun they couldn't find or a scanner. Wasting time and money sending armed police to raid their house everyday when they weren't stupid enough to stash it in their own houses... " Crack heads (mostly) shoot other crack heads or their dealers. Doesn't sound like much of a loss to society. | |||
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"And actually if anyone has actually worked in these places it's not all its made out to be Worked where-a prison? Yep x" As in it's nice being in prison? Or not nice? | |||
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" Did they really? (where's the sarcasm smiley?). Yep, do you think the police would rather have a bunch of violent crack heads running round with a gun they couldn't find or a scanner. Wasting time and money sending armed police to raid their house everyday when they weren't stupid enough to stash it in their own houses... Crack heads (mostly) shoot other crack heads or their dealers. Doesn't sound like much of a loss to society." They were taxing the smack dealers | |||
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"And actually if anyone has actually worked in these places it's not all its made out to be Worked where-a prison? Yep x" I've never worked in one but a friend used to work at a young offenders prison (Glenn Parva in Leicester). From all accounts it was pretty miserable with a lot of suicide attempts and many of the guys reoffended soon after their release. | |||
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" Did they really? (where's the sarcasm smiley?). Yep, do you think the police would rather have a bunch of violent crack heads running round with a gun they couldn't find or a scanner. Wasting time and money sending armed police to raid their house everyday when they weren't stupid enough to stash it in their own houses... Crack heads (mostly) shoot other crack heads or their dealers. Doesn't sound like much of a loss to society. They were taxing the smack dealers " Who were? The cops? That doesn't sound too mischievous. A 21st century version of tickets to the Policeman's Ball. | |||
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"......... many of the guys reoffended soon after their release. " That's cos we leave them outside the gate with 6d in their pocket and a bus pass to nowhere. | |||
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"And actually if anyone has actually worked in these places it's not all its made out to be Worked where-a prison? Yep x As in it's nice being in prison? Or not nice? " Not nice at all x | |||
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"And actually if anyone has actually worked in these places it's not all its made out to be Worked where-a prison? Yep x I've never worked in one but a friend used to work at a young offenders prison (Glenn Parva in Leicester). From all accounts it was pretty miserable with a lot of suicide attempts and many of the guys reoffended soon after their release. " Very miserable indeed with hourly suicide attempts where I worked, not exactly the bed of roses people assume | |||
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"No, two wrongs never make a right, and if you ask victims families you will get the same answer." I think if you ask victims families you would get varied answers certainly not all no's | |||
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"So that's a 5 yeses and 4 no's the others undecided " I think you need to do a recount... Up to your tally up only two yes votes The first thread you started also seemed to have the majority saying no. Yourself and mrwho are the only people who have said yes to the original question you posed... The others yeps have been in response to other slightly off topic posts. | |||
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"So that's a 5 yeses and 4 no's the others undecided I think you need to do a recount... Up to your tally up only two yes votes The first thread you started also seemed to have the majority saying no. Yourself and mrwho are the only people who have said yes to the original question you posed... The others yeps have been in response to other slightly off topic posts. " I'm running out of fingers here , where's that abacus So two yeses and one no ? | |||
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"And actually if anyone has actually worked in these places it's not all its made out to be Worked where-a prison? Yep x I've never worked in one but a friend used to work at a young offenders prison (Glenn Parva in Leicester). From all accounts it was pretty miserable with a lot of suicide attempts and many of the guys reoffended soon after their release. " I used to work for social services we took on and rehabilitated young offenders on parole, tho I have never been inside I heard many stories from the lad who I worked with and from what they say its not a nice place and the stories of them all having TVs and play stations is utter rubbish but interesting question, if we bough back the death sentence what age are we aiming it for, those who say yes would you happily see a convicted juvenile killed? | |||
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"What about that German cannibal who Advertised for a victim to eat ? The victim turned up willingly and got eaten The cannibal got five yrs should he have got more or none at all because the victim agreed to be eaten ? " Seems a reasonable agreement they reached. The alternative could be life in a loony bin. | |||
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" I can see one interesting development, all those unfortunate people not allowed to end their own life may simply do someone else in and get their wish that way. " and how is someone who to ill to end their own life's going to kill someone else? | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES " Yes | |||
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" I can see one interesting development, all those unfortunate people not allowed to end their own life may simply do someone else in and get their wish that way. and how is someone who to ill to end their own life's going to kill someone else?" They're not always too ill or immobile to do so. Often it only reaches Court when they're too far gone. | |||
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" I can see one interesting development, all those unfortunate people not allowed to end their own life may simply do someone else in and get their wish that way. and how is someone who to ill to end their own life's going to kill someone else? They're not always too ill or immobile to do so. Often it only reaches Court when they're too far gone." I think this is a bit extreme, if someone wanted to die and was physically able to end their own life surely they would just end their own life rather than go out and kill someone else to gain what they could easily do themselves | |||
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"What about that German cannibal who Advertised for a victim to eat ? The victim turned up willingly and got eaten The cannibal got five yrs should he have got more or none at all because the victim agreed to be eaten ? Seems a reasonable agreement they reached. The alternative could be life in a loony bin. " He ate him with some fava beans washed down with a bottle of chianti | |||
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"YES - YES - YES" Three yeses there More yeses than no | |||
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"I think it is very cruel to prevent someone from commiting suicide, surley that would help solve the dilemma." Depends if they were well enough to make that decision | |||
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"How is this even a question? Fuck no, unless yer backwards. " You would hang people who are backward? | |||
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"Wonder how many saying yes are Daily Mail or sun readers " Snobbery is alive and well on Fab | |||
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"How is this even a question? Fuck no, unless yer backwards. You would hang people who are backward?" Ha - you know what I meant. I'm quite surprised the pro-hangers are even able to press the buttons on the keypad the idea is so retarded. | |||
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"How is this even a question? Fuck no, unless yer backwards. You would hang people who are backward? Ha - you know what I meant. I'm quite surprised the pro-hangers are even able to press the buttons on the keypad the idea is so retarded. " If you cant come up with a reasonable response then insult the opposition. Works everytime dunnit? | |||
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"How is this even a question? Fuck no, unless yer backwards. You would hang people who are backward? Ha - you know what I meant. I'm quite surprised the pro-hangers are even able to press the buttons on the keypad the idea is so retarded. If you cant come up with a reasonable response then insult the opposition. Works everytime dunnit?" In this case there is no reasonable debate to be had, the idea is preposterous. | |||
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"I think it is very cruel to prevent someone from commiting suicide, surley that would help solve the dilemma." Try saying that when you have seen someone attempt it and there is claret all over the place and he is threatening to cut any officer who comes into his cell. Not good at all | |||
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"13 NO - YES 6" Swap them round | |||
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"I think it is very cruel to prevent someone from commiting suicide, surley that would help solve the dilemma. Try saying that when you have seen someone attempt it and there is claret all over the place and he is threatening to cut any officer who comes into his cell. Not good at all" death is seldom clean and clinical. | |||
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"13 NO - YES 6 Swap them round " Why? That's more like Russian democracy | |||
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"I think it is very cruel to prevent someone from commiting suicide, surley that would help solve the dilemma. Try saying that when you have seen someone attempt it and there is claret all over the place and he is threatening to cut any officer who comes into his cell. Not good at all death is seldom clean and clinical." Have you seen someone try though? You may feel less likely to feel leave them to it x | |||
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"13 NO - YES 6 Swap them round Why? That's more like Russian democracy " Russians have nothing to do with this thread ! | |||
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"13 NO - YES 6 Swap them round Why? That's more like Russian democracy Russians have nothing to do with this thread ! " I dunno, they were fond of killing their own citizens. | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES " Only if caught in the act and only for muderers, rapists, peadophiles and any form of extreme violence. Especially terrorising the older generation. I believe punishment is far too soft these days. Crimes above should be sentences to death. Druggies sent to prison for years and be clean by the time they get released. All other crimes should be justified on what they have done. For example if they commit fraud. You declare them as bankrupt no matter how much they stole as who knows they may have stolen more than what they have been caught for. Plus the fine given to them should be the value of their home and if they don't own their home. Prison should be the option. Things like theft should bw common sense. Give them 3 strikes. First two fine them and make sure the second fine is bigger than the first and the third strike means hands/fingers being amputated as how can you steal without having hands or fingers? Bring back caning in schools too. Children get away with murder and that's why they have no respect for authority. | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES Only if caught in the act and only for muderers, rapists, peadophiles and any form of extreme violence. Especially terrorising the older generation. I believe punishment is far too soft these days. Crimes above should be sentences to death. Druggies sent to prison for years and be clean by the time they get released. All other crimes should be justified on what they have done. For example if they commit fraud. You declare them as bankrupt no matter how much they stole as who knows they may have stolen more than what they have been caught for. Plus the fine given to them should be the value of their home and if they don't own their home. Prison should be the option. Things like theft should bw common sense. Give them 3 strikes. First two fine them and make sure the second fine is bigger than the first and the third strike means hands/fingers being amputated as how can you steal without having hands or fingers? Bring back caning in schools too. Children get away with murder and that's why they have no respect for authority. " Is that a yes ? | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES Only if caught in the act and only for muderers, rapists, peadophiles and any form of extreme violence. Especially terrorising the older generation. I believe punishment is far too soft these days. Crimes above should be sentences to death. Druggies sent to prison for years and be clean by the time they get released. All other crimes should be justified on what they have done. For example if they commit fraud. You declare them as bankrupt no matter how much they stole as who knows they may have stolen more than what they have been caught for. Plus the fine given to them should be the value of their home and if they don't own their home. Prison should be the option. Things like theft should bw common sense. Give them 3 strikes. First two fine them and make sure the second fine is bigger than the first and the third strike means hands/fingers being amputated as how can you steal without having hands or fingers? Bring back caning in schools too. Children get away with murder and that's why they have no respect for authority. " Caning in schools. Hopefully this post is a joke? Otherwise yep lets all wack kids with sticks just like the old days what fun!! | |||
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"13 NO - YES 6 Swap them round Why? That's more like Russian democracy Russians have nothing to do with this thread ! " Apart from the OP | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES Only if caught in the act and only for muderers, rapists, peadophiles and any form of extreme violence. Especially terrorising the older generation. I believe punishment is far too soft these days. Crimes above should be sentences to death. Druggies sent to prison for years and be clean by the time they get released. All other crimes should be justified on what they have done. For example if they commit fraud. You declare them as bankrupt no matter how much they stole as who knows they may have stolen more than what they have been caught for. Plus the fine given to them should be the value of their home and if they don't own their home. Prison should be the option. Things like theft should bw common sense. Give them 3 strikes. First two fine them and make sure the second fine is bigger than the first and the third strike means hands/fingers being amputated as how can you steal without having hands or fingers? Bring back caning in schools too. Children get away with murder and that's why they have no respect for authority. Caning in schools. Hopefully this post is a joke? Otherwise yep lets all wack kids with sticks just like the old days what fun!!" Or the slipper which ever is the closes | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES Only if caught in the act and only for muderers, rapists, peadophiles and any form of extreme violence. Especially terrorising the older generation. I believe punishment is far too soft these days. Crimes above should be sentences to death. Druggies sent to prison for years and be clean by the time they get released. All other crimes should be justified on what they have done. For example if they commit fraud. You declare them as bankrupt no matter how much they stole as who knows they may have stolen more than what they have been caught for. Plus the fine given to them should be the value of their home and if they don't own their home. Prison should be the option. Things like theft should bw common sense. Give them 3 strikes. First two fine them and make sure the second fine is bigger than the first and the third strike means hands/fingers being amputated as how can you steal without having hands or fingers? Bring back caning in schools too. Children get away with murder and that's why they have no respect for authority. Caning in schools. Hopefully this post is a joke? Otherwise yep lets all wack kids with sticks just like the old days what fun!!" Can see how it will help, most kids bad behaviour is outside school | |||
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"13 NO - YES 6 Swap them round Why? That's more like Russian democracy Russians have nothing to do with this thread ! I dunno, they were fond of killing their own citizens. " ..... and other country's. | |||
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"Wonder how many saying yes are Daily Mail or sun readers Snobbery is alive and well on Fab" No different to the first thread where people were called extrem lefties for not agreeing with the death sentence. The suggestion that those that are in favour read a right wing newspaper is hardly that surprising | |||
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" ...... Things like theft should bw common sense. Give them 3 strikes. First two fine them and make sure the second fine is bigger than the first and the third strike means hands/fingers being amputated as how can you steal without having hands or fingers? ....... " With a computer. That's how most tax evasion and corporate fraud is done. | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES Only if caught in the act and only for muderers, rapists, peadophiles and any form of extreme violence. Especially terrorising the older generation. I believe punishment is far too soft these days. Crimes above should be sentences to death. Druggies sent to prison for years and be clean by the time they get released. All other crimes should be justified on what they have done. For example if they commit fraud. You declare them as bankrupt no matter how much they stole as who knows they may have stolen more than what they have been caught for. Plus the fine given to them should be the value of their home and if they don't own their home. Prison should be the option. Things like theft should bw common sense. Give them 3 strikes. First two fine them and make sure the second fine is bigger than the first and the third strike means hands/fingers being amputated as how can you steal without having hands or fingers? Bring back caning in schools too. Children get away with murder and that's why they have no respect for authority. Caning in schools. Hopefully this post is a joke? Otherwise yep lets all wack kids with sticks just like the old days what fun!!" Sadly I think he is totally serious about that and cutting off the hands off thieves. Maybe we should publically stone criminals too? | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES Only if caught in the act and only for muderers, rapists, peadophiles and any form of extreme violence. Especially terrorising the older generation. I believe punishment is far too soft these days. Crimes above should be sentences to death. Druggies sent to prison for years and be clean by the time they get released. All other crimes should be justified on what they have done. For example if they commit fraud. You declare them as bankrupt no matter how much they stole as who knows they may have stolen more than what they have been caught for. Plus the fine given to them should be the value of their home and if they don't own their home. Prison should be the option. Things like theft should bw common sense. Give them 3 strikes. First two fine them and make sure the second fine is bigger than the first and the third strike means hands/fingers being amputated as how can you steal without having hands or fingers? Bring back caning in schools too. Children get away with murder and that's why they have no respect for authority. " SOME children get away with murder but not all, the day will not come where my child is threatened with a cane | |||
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"13 NO - YES 6 Swap them round Why? That's more like Russian democracy Russians have nothing to do with this thread ! I dunno, they were fond of killing their own citizens. ..... and other country's." Maybe if they hadn't been succesful against the Germans, who knows? Maybe i'd be driving around in a nice home made Merc by now. | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES Only if caught in the act and only for muderers, rapists, peadophiles and any form of extreme violence. Especially terrorising the older generation. I believe punishment is far too soft these days. Crimes above should be sentences to death. Druggies sent to prison for years and be clean by the time they get released. All other crimes should be justified on what they have done. For example if they commit fraud. You declare them as bankrupt no matter how much they stole as who knows they may have stolen more than what they have been caught for. Plus the fine given to them should be the value of their home and if they don't own their home. Prison should be the option. Things like theft should bw common sense. Give them 3 strikes. First two fine them and make sure the second fine is bigger than the first and the third strike means hands/fingers being amputated as how can you steal without having hands or fingers? Bring back caning in schools too. Children get away with murder and that's why they have no respect for authority. Caning in schools. Hopefully this post is a joke? Otherwise yep lets all wack kids with sticks just like the old days what fun!! Sadly I think he is totally serious about that and cutting off the hands off thieves. Maybe we should publically stone criminals too? " Thinking about it he probably has a valid point, in face I'm 80% sure the old lady 2 doors down is a witch, any ideas how we can find out if she is or not? | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES Only if caught in the act and only for muderers, rapists, peadophiles and any form of extreme violence. Especially terrorising the older generation. I believe punishment is far too soft these days. Crimes above should be sentences to death. Druggies sent to prison for years and be clean by the time they get released. All other crimes should be justified on what they have done. For example if they commit fraud. You declare them as bankrupt no matter how much they stole as who knows they may have stolen more than what they have been caught for. Plus the fine given to them should be the value of their home and if they don't own their home. Prison should be the option. Things like theft should bw common sense. Give them 3 strikes. First two fine them and make sure the second fine is bigger than the first and the third strike means hands/fingers being amputated as how can you steal without having hands or fingers? Bring back caning in schools too. Children get away with murder and that's why they have no respect for authority. Caning in schools. Hopefully this post is a joke? Otherwise yep lets all wack kids with sticks just like the old days what fun!! Sadly I think he is totally serious about that and cutting off the hands off thieves. Maybe we should publically stone criminals too? " Cannabis or rocks? | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES Only if caught in the act and only for muderers, rapists, peadophiles and any form of extreme violence. Especially terrorising the older generation. I believe punishment is far too soft these days. Crimes above should be sentences to death. Druggies sent to prison for years and be clean by the time they get released. All other crimes should be justified on what they have done. For example if they commit fraud. You declare them as bankrupt no matter how much they stole as who knows they may have stolen more than what they have been caught for. Plus the fine given to them should be the value of their home and if they don't own their home. Prison should be the option. Things like theft should bw common sense. Give them 3 strikes. First two fine them and make sure the second fine is bigger than the first and the third strike means hands/fingers being amputated as how can you steal without having hands or fingers? Bring back caning in schools too. Children get away with murder and that's why they have no respect for authority. Caning in schools. Hopefully this post is a joke? Otherwise yep lets all wack kids with sticks just like the old days what fun!! Sadly I think he is totally serious about that and cutting off the hands off thieves. Maybe we should publically stone criminals too? Thinking about it he probably has a valid point, in face I'm 80% sure the old lady 2 doors down is a witch, any ideas how we can find out if she is or not? " Fact* | |||
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"Children know no limits, they see death, murder and violence in films and games, the cane was a good way to hold some type of punishment over a childs head, the local bobby would give you a clip round the ear hole, take you home and you would be in for another slap, so children had respect for parents, teachers and the police, that respect isn't always there any more, just one reason society has become more violent, and more murders happen, there is no fear of authority any more, I don't believe in hanging, but I do believe in knowing right from wrong." Do more murders happen? | |||
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"Children know no limits, they see death, murder and violence in films and games, the cane was a good way to hold some type of punishment over a childs head, the local bobby would give you a clip round the ear hole, take you home and you would be in for another slap, so children had respect for parents, teachers and the police, that respect isn't always there any more, just one reason society has become more violent, and more murders happen, there is no fear of authority any more, I don't believe in hanging, but I do believe in knowing right from wrong. Do more murders happen?" Fear of punishment doesn't deter murderers cos 1) most murders are unpremeditated and 2) those who set out to kill never imagine they'll be caught. | |||
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"Children know no limits, they see death, murder and violence in films and games, the cane was a good way to hold some type of punishment over a childs head, the local bobby would give you a clip round the ear hole, take you home and you would be in for another slap, so children had respect for parents, teachers and the police, that respect isn't always there any more, just one reason society has become more violent, and more murders happen, there is no fear of authority any more, I don't believe in hanging, but I do believe in knowing right from wrong." I could place 'some' at the start of the majority of your sentences. Generalisation at it's best | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES Only if caught in the act and only for muderers, rapists, peadophiles and any form of extreme violence. Especially terrorising the older generation. I believe punishment is far too soft these days. Crimes above should be sentences to death. Druggies sent to prison for years and be clean by the time they get released. All other crimes should be justified on what they have done. For example if they commit fraud. You declare them as bankrupt no matter how much they stole as who knows they may have stolen more than what they have been caught for. Plus the fine given to them should be the value of their home and if they don't own their home. Prison should be the option. Things like theft should bw common sense. Give them 3 strikes. First two fine them and make sure the second fine is bigger than the first and the third strike means hands/fingers being amputated as how can you steal without having hands or fingers? Bring back caning in schools too. Children get away with murder and that's why they have no respect for authority. Caning in schools. Hopefully this post is a joke? Otherwise yep lets all wack kids with sticks just like the old days what fun!! What gets me is people wanna bring back caning in school but I doubt they'd want their head kicked in at work if tbey did something wrong I get spat at , scratched , abused , things thrown at me on a daily bases at work ! I work in mental health it's not their fault they r ill Not quite the same as your boss assaulting you as a disciplinay measure though is it? That wasn't the question no the question was they doubted people would want to be hit at work for doing something wrong, your not getting hit for doing anything wrong I work with a lot of people with Alzheimer's, some can be violent but that's part of their job, I wouldn't compare their behaviour due to their illness to a teacher hitting a child as form of punishment though " U seem to have worked in a hell of a lot of places. | |||
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"every person should be micro chipped at birth, crime would soon stop" How would that work? How would a microchip stop me killing someone? Or more likely to be caught for that matter | |||
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"every person should be micro chipped at birth, crime would soon stop No it wouldn't A Pedo will always be a Pedo " Wow - thats a fascinating insight into psychology, that. | |||
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"every person should be micro chipped at birth, crime would soon stop How would that work? How would a microchip stop me killing someone? Or more likely to be caught for that matter" You'd know where they'd been, and when. A bit like Find My iPhone. | |||
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"every person should be micro chipped at birth, crime would soon stop How would that work? How would a microchip stop me killing someone? Or more likely to be caught for that matter You'd know where they'd been, and when. A bit like Find My iPhone." so your actually talking about installing a tracking device in everyone at birth? | |||
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"every person should be micro chipped at birth, crime would soon stop How would that work? How would a microchip stop me killing someone? Or more likely to be caught for that matter You'd know where they'd been, and when. A bit like Find My iPhone. so your actually talking about installing a tracking device in everyone at birth? " No, just explaining how it'd work. | |||
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"every person should be micro chipped at birth, crime would soon stop How would that work? How would a microchip stop me killing someone? Or more likely to be caught for that matter You'd know where they'd been, and when. A bit like Find My iPhone. so your actually talking about installing a tracking device in everyone at birth? No, just explaining how it'd work." micro chips don't work like that tho, what you have in your iphone is a tracking device | |||
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"every person should be micro chipped at birth, crime would soon stop How would that work? How would a microchip stop me killing someone? Or more likely to be caught for that matter You'd know where they'd been, and when. A bit like Find My iPhone. so your actually talking about installing a tracking device in everyone at birth? No, just explaining how it'd work. micro chips don't work like that tho, what you have in your iphone is a tracking device " OK. Install both. | |||
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"15 NO - YES 6. ..... It's fun being a scorekeeper - you have to read every post! " found anything good? | |||
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"every person should be micro chipped at birth, crime would soon stop How would that work? How would a microchip stop me killing someone? Or more likely to be caught for that matter You'd know where they'd been, and when. A bit like Find My iPhone. so your actually talking about installing a tracking device in everyone at birth? No, just explaining how it'd work. micro chips don't work like that tho, what you have in your iphone is a tracking device OK. Install both. " get real that would fuck up all the married men on here's fun!!! | |||
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"every person should be micro chipped at birth, crime would soon stop How would that work? How would a microchip stop me killing someone? Or more likely to be caught for that matter You'd know where they'd been, and when. A bit like Find My iPhone. so your actually talking about installing a tracking device in everyone at birth? " from May 2014 it will be law for all dogs, and it has been discussed, if you abide by societies laws, why would it be a problem, It is for societies safety and protection, plus there are many other benefits, such as health, If you have an accident or illness when away from home, a micro chip could contain all your medical history, drug allergies, contact details, at present if you are taken ill, no one can get access to your medical records. even a local hospital, cant click into your doctors records, identity cards are used in many countries, so why not a micro chip, then abducted children could be found, people would think before they break the law, cheat the social security system, we would have a safer place to love and raise our family, I cant see any thing negative about it, unless you are doing something wrong, it will happen, sooner or later. | |||
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"every person should be micro chipped at birth, crime would soon stop How would that work? How would a microchip stop me killing someone? Or more likely to be caught for that matter You'd know where they'd been, and when. A bit like Find My iPhone. so your actually talking about installing a tracking device in everyone at birth? No, just explaining how it'd work. micro chips don't work like that tho, what you have in your iphone is a tracking device OK. Install both. " So if the purpose of the tracking device is to find where someone is/was, what would the microchip do? | |||
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" OK. Install both. So if the purpose of the tracking device is to find where someone is/was, what would the microchip do?" Lull people into a false sense of security. | |||
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"13 NO - YES 6 Swap them round Why? That's more like Russian democracy Russians have nothing to do with this thread ! I dunno, they were fond of killing their own citizens. ..... and other country's. Maybe if they hadn't been succesful against the Germans, who knows? Maybe i'd be driving around in a nice home made Merc by now. " That's a very interesting angle that's never discussed in the media another thread me thinks! | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES Only if caught in the act and only for muderers, rapists, peadophiles and any form of extreme violence. Especially terrorising the older generation. I believe punishment is far too soft these days. Crimes above should be sentences to death. Druggies sent to prison for years and be clean by the time they get released. All other crimes should be justified on what they have done. For example if they commit fraud. You declare them as bankrupt no matter how much they stole as who knows they may have stolen more than what they have been caught for. Plus the fine given to them should be the value of their home and if they don't own their home. Prison should be the option. Things like theft should bw common sense. Give them 3 strikes. First two fine them and make sure the second fine is bigger than the first and the third strike means hands/fingers being amputated as how can you steal without having hands or fingers? Bring back caning in schools too. Children get away with murder and that's why they have no respect for authority. " Have you thought of emigrating to some hard line Muslim country, you may find their justice systems quite to your liking... I believe the Taliban run systems very much like that which you suggest. | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES Only if caught in the act and only for muderers, rapists, peadophiles and any form of extreme violence. Especially terrorising the older generation. I believe punishment is far too soft these days. Crimes above should be sentences to death. Druggies sent to prison for years and be clean by the time they get released. All other crimes should be justified on what they have done. For example if they commit fraud. You declare them as bankrupt no matter how much they stole as who knows they may have stolen more than what they have been caught for. Plus the fine given to them should be the value of their home and if they don't own their home. Prison should be the option. Things like theft should bw common sense. Give them 3 strikes. First two fine them and make sure the second fine is bigger than the first and the third strike means hands/fingers being amputated as how can you steal without having hands or fingers? Bring back caning in schools too. Children get away with murder and that's why they have no respect for authority. Have you thought of emigrating to some hard line Muslim country, you may find their justice systems quite to your liking... I believe the Taliban run systems very much like that which you suggest. " That's a harsh comment as I don't believe this as a form of punishment for everything | |||
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"Children know no limits, they see death, murder and violence in films and games, the cane was a good way to hold some type of punishment over a childs head, the local bobby would give you a clip round the ear hole, take you home and you would be in for another slap, so children had respect for parents, teachers and the police, that respect isn't always there any more, just one reason society has become more violent, and more murders happen, there is no fear of authority any more, I don't believe in hanging, but I do believe in knowing right from wrong." You don't get respect by beating people, you get fear. Which you ended up by saying that there is no fear of authority. If you replace respect with fear in your post it'll be more accurate. Why should people or children fear authority? I used to get the leather belt, didn't stop me pissing about to be honest, not judging by the amount of times I got it anyhow. I just ended up hating my father. When I got grounded I asked for the belt instead rather than staying in for a week. Loss of liberty is punishment. Loss of making any of your own decisions of when or what to eat, sleep, wake, when to go out or come back. | |||
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"15 NO - YES 6. ..... It's fun being a scorekeeper - you have to read every post! found anything good? " not really but thanks for your concern! | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES Only if caught in the act and only for muderers, rapists, peadophiles and any form of extreme violence. Especially terrorising the older generation. I believe punishment is far too soft these days. Crimes above should be sentences to death. Druggies sent to prison for years and be clean by the time they get released. All other crimes should be justified on what they have done. For example if they commit fraud. You declare them as bankrupt no matter how much they stole as who knows they may have stolen more than what they have been caught for. Plus the fine given to them should be the value of their home and if they don't own their home. Prison should be the option. Things like theft should bw common sense. Give them 3 strikes. First two fine them and make sure the second fine is bigger than the first and the third strike means hands/fingers being amputated as how can you steal without having hands or fingers? Bring back caning in schools too. Children get away with murder and that's why they have no respect for authority. Have you thought of emigrating to some hard line Muslim country, you may find their justice systems quite to your liking... I believe the Taliban run systems very much like that which you suggest. That's a harsh comment as I don't believe this as a form of punishment for everything " So death sentence, for certain crimes. Removal of all accumulated wealth for fraud. All drug users to prison for 'a long time' Limb amputation for thieves... And you think I'm being harsh | |||
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"*hides ciggie papers & pipe "Ö" Pssst... Stuck them in my bag" Who let all of this riff raff into the room... If I had my way I'd have all of them shot (name that tune) | |||
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"*hides ciggie papers & pipe "Ö" Pssst... Stuck them in my bag" Psssst - I think you'll have to find a better hiding place - *winks "Ö" | |||
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"*hides ciggie papers & pipe "Ö" Pssst... Stuck them in my bag Who let all of this riff raff into the room... If I had my way I'd have all of them shot (name that tune)" Errrrrrrrm, sounds like blackadder goes forth or somewhere else in the Somme! | |||
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" The sad fact is that since the abolition of the death sentence the numbers of murders have gone through the roof." I think u will find the culprit for that is Santa n those clumsy reindeer | |||
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"every person should be micro chipped at birth, crime would soon stop How would that work? How would a microchip stop me killing someone? Or more likely to be caught for that matter You'd know where they'd been, and when. A bit like Find My iPhone. so your actually talking about installing a tracking device in everyone at birth? from May 2014 it will be law for all dogs, and it has been discussed, if you abide by societies laws, why would it be a problem, It is for societies safety and protection, plus there are many other benefits, such as health, If you have an accident or illness when away from home, a micro chip could contain all your medical history, drug allergies, contact details, at present if you are taken ill, no one can get access to your medical records. even a local hospital, cant click into your doctors records, identity cards are used in many countries, so why not a micro chip, then abducted children could be found, people would think before they break the law, cheat the social security system, we would have a safer place to love and raise our family, I cant see any thing negative about it, unless you are doing something wrong, it will happen, sooner or later." | |||
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"Wonder how many saying yes are Daily Mail or sun readers Snobbery is alive and well on Fab" Snobbery? Lmao I think the Daily Mail board would not like their paper compared to gutter press like The Sun. | |||
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"every person should be micro chipped at birth, crime would soon stop How would that work? How would a microchip stop me killing someone? Or more likely to be caught for that matter You'd know where they'd been, and when. A bit like Find My iPhone. so your actually talking about installing a tracking device in everyone at birth? from May 2014 it will be law for all dogs, and it has been discussed, if you abide by societies laws, why would it be a problem, It is for societies safety and protection, plus there are many other benefits, such as health, If you have an accident or illness when away from home, a micro chip could contain all your medical history, drug allergies, contact details, at present if you are taken ill, no one can get access to your medical records. even a local hospital, cant click into your doctors records, identity cards are used in many countries, so why not a micro chip, then abducted children could be found, people would think before they break the law, cheat the social security system, we would have a safer place to love and raise our family, I cant see any thing negative about it, unless you are doing something wrong, it will happen, sooner or later. " I would not want to live in your world, you mean more oppressed, more controlled. People who have this if you have done nothing wrong nothing to fear make me sick. | |||
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" .....We are not barbarians. " Oh yes we are. | |||
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"'if you have done nothing wrong nothing to fear' is the argument given for control measures. Funny thing is, same people who use this argument are against the death penalty because of possible innocent people being found guilty. Talk about fence sitting lol" | |||
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" .....We are not barbarians. Oh yes we are." No were not there's a few sick fucks in power, the rest want to have fun | |||
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"*hides ciggie papers & pipe "Ö" Pssst... Stuck them in my bag Who let all of this riff raff into the room... If I had my way I'd have all of them shot (name that tune)" I know this one.... In the Flesh from The Wall | |||
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"Can we stick to capital punishment and not military bashing Who agrees with bringing hanging back/ capital punishment ? Let's have a fab swingers vote I say YES " I say NO | |||
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"Yes for those convicted unequivocally." You mean like Stefan kiszko who was unequivocally convicted of the sexual assault and murder of Lesley Molseed? Kiszko had severe learning difficulties and was framed by the police. He spent years in prison wrongly accused and was victimised by other inmates. The real killer was caught via DNA evidence years later and was sentenced to life for the vile and horrendous slaying of a child. Kiszko died a broken man. Is that unequivocal enough to hang people? We are supposed to be civilised and state murder reduces the masses to the law of the jungle. | |||
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"No no no no. For all the reasons already given numerous times. We are not barbarians. " This sums up my opinion pretty much! No no no ! | |||
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"Can we stick with a straight yes or no answers please " Why? Its not that simple a topic for brevity. | |||
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"Can we stick with a straight yes or no answers please " It's a forum. Just because you started a thread why do you think you can dictate the responses? | |||
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"Can we stick with a straight yes or no answers please " aye naw maybe definitely | |||
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"'if you have done nothing wrong nothing to fear' is the argument given for control measures. Funny thing is, same people who use this argument are against the death penalty because of possible innocent people being found guilty. Talk about fence sitting lol" now its not fence sitting when most have said there has been MISCARRIAGES of justice...we fence sitters might just have a conscience before adopting string em up brigades foolish ideas! I say foolish, not branding people idiots, but really just highlighting the fact you have to think it very carefully through, from the ethical to the legal.Many of those off the fence in favor of the death penalty are forgetting there has to be a unbiased agenda.I understand rage,panic and fear..thankfully its not normally reflected in the law(and when it does, youy will find that sentences are overturned) maybe just maybe as much as you dont want to..put yourself in the shoes of an innocent person facing any charges...now multiply that feeling when there has been a serious crime committed............ | |||
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"The UK law reporting system numbers 20 people convicted of first degree murder, since 1965, that were proved to be innocent and released from prison. This is the year that capital punishment was abolished. The report says there are currently 50 cases under review. In my mind that is an awful lot of people that could have been executed. If that is sitting on a fence I am glad to be there!" With today's DNA and if 100% convicted to the crimes they committed (murderous , serial Killers ,pedos , rapist etc ) then yes hang them all. | |||
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"The UK law reporting system numbers 20 people convicted of first degree murder, since 1965, that were proved to be innocent and released from prison. This is the year that capital punishment was abolished. The report says there are currently 50 cases under review. In my mind that is an awful lot of people that could have been executed. If that is sitting on a fence I am glad to be there!" and this is the reason Why I will always be a no..... for those who said yes.... if any of those had been executed that were later found to be innocent... what would you say to that family.... ooops........sorry!!!! i dont think that is quite going to cut it........ | |||
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"The UK law reporting system numbers 20 people convicted of first degree murder, since 1965, that were proved to be innocent and released from prison. This is the year that capital punishment was abolished. The report says there are currently 50 cases under review. In my mind that is an awful lot of people that could have been executed. If that is sitting on a fence I am glad to be there! With today's DNA and if 100% convicted to the crimes they committed (murderous , serial Killers ,pedos , rapist etc ) then yes hang them all. " What is a100% conviction? People get convicted beyond reasonable doubt. There is no sliding scale of guilt | |||
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"The UK law reporting system numbers 20 people convicted of first degree murder, since 1965, that were proved to be innocent and released from prison. This is the year that capital punishment was abolished. The report says there are currently 50 cases under review. In my mind that is an awful lot of people that could have been executed. If that is sitting on a fence I am glad to be there! With today's DNA and if 100% convicted to the crimes they committed (murderous , serial Killers ,pedos , rapist etc ) then yes hang them all. " in a few years your DNA can be placed at the scene of a crime,it could have been synthesized or retrieved in person. I can place you at the scene of a crime in a photo, I could have a computer model made up thats incredibly life like..showing u being caught in the act its not entirely science fiction you know so with these things possibly getting better to fake...how long should we wait till its 100% that we keep the 'guilty' alive after they have been sentenced? | |||
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