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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Should it be brought back ?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

Good god no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Prefer life imprisonment that actually means just that. Seen some of these American prisons and jeez hanging woukd be preferable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it should for peados and cold blooded murder y should they get looked after in prison

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it should for peados and cold blooded murder y should they get looked after in prison

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

For people like Blair, Cameron and paedos yes

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh Blair yes. Forgot him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And stoneing was a good idea lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've tried using gaffa tape to hold'em-up but now I just let them hang...!

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By *himanMan
over a year ago

chichester

Yes !!!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Nope

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pmsl

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

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By *taffsfella1Man
over a year ago

Newcastle-under-Lyme

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?

Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?

Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?

Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"For people like Blair, Cameron and paedos yes"

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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago

In Your Bush

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hanging no but electric chair should be used. To many do gooders in the country though so that would never happen. Apparently everyone has rights no matter what they have done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hanging no but electric chair should be used. To many do gooders in the country though so that would never happen. Apparently everyone has rights no matter what they have done. "

This is not a loaded question.... but could you throw the switch?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if a person takes another persons life intentional,they admit to the crime and its proven,yes.why should they be allowed to live,possibly in a good lifestyle in prison,fed.clothed.having leisure time,visits,and maybe to come out in fifteen years,with a new identity,to commit a similar crime again.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Should bring capital punishment back in this country for the harden criminals !

It works in other countries so why not here ?

In America u can get up to 500 yrs in jail for one murder or the chair (depending on what state u from ) over here u get 10 yrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, 2 wrongs never make a right

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No, 2 wrongs never make a right"

In Saudi u get stoned dressing as a woman

No pun intended

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And if they are wrongly convicted? Even in America they get it wrong!

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By *heScotandthegirlCouple
over a year ago

London & Edinburgh

Bizzarely this is a mirror of the conversation we had last night and I said almost exactly what crystalwheels said above! So like to meet you guys even socially.

Master

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should the death penalty be bought back? Yes and in the most humane way such as the lethal injection.

Just think of the reasons why custodial sentences SHOULD be delivered: protection of the public, punishment of the perpetrator and deterrent to others. Likewise should the death penalty be given but only in cases of extremes. I'm suggesting of the likes for Fred West, Harold Shipman and Peter Sutcliffe, ie perpetrators of multiple murders and extreme pre-meditated murders, NEVER manslaughter.

"Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?"

There is no way of proving it either way. However if there is a chance that it prevents one premeditated murder then it is valid as a deterrent.

"Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?"

Two words: forensic science. Miscarriages are becoming more rare. The multiple murders category should ensure less chance of miscarriages.

"Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?"

Are societies who do have the death penalty less civilised than us? That is down to each individual society's ethics/morals and doesn't play a part in this debate in my opinion. Otherwise I will add - abortion and euthanasia to prove a point.

"Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?"

It is not vengeance it is a predetermined forfeit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For people like Blair, Cameron and paedos yes"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

No!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, by the toe... as well as national service, chopping theives hands off, chopping cheaters cocks off, and bacon and bean flavoured piglets cos I miss those the most

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No, 2 wrongs never make a right

In Saudi u get stoned dressing as a woman

No pun intended "

I get stoned, before I dress as a woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No, 2 wrongs never make a right

In Saudi u get stoned dressing as a woman

No pun intended "

You should follow the laws of whichever country you are in, being gay is punishable by death in some countries!

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By *ames blackMan
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

A few years ago A guy built a bungalow without planning permission. When (finally) it was ordered to be demolished, he said he would shoot the planning officer (or whatever). On the day tv crews were there, police etc. He shot the man. Pleaded 'not guilty' in court & trial cost over 3.5million pounds (I understand)

No question of guilt. Why is he allowed to walk free after serving a sentence?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should it be brought back ?"

I thinks they should be hanged by certain body parts ...

Like a man given a 6 month term to be hanged by his balls continuously

Or serious criminals to be hanged by their cocks for 2 hours at a time on a daily basis during their prison sentences...then again that might turn some them on ...lol

Rapists/ paedos being given a life sentence In prison and being raped non stop by a male horse for 20 hours of the day !

Hanging by death is too quick and over in a flash .....hence why life in prison is good etc....think they should bring back torture instead for very serious offences

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

"Hanging no but electric chair should be used. To many do gooders in the country though so that would never happen. Apparently everyone has rights no matter what they have done. "

Of course everyone has rights, that is why we live in a democracy. Remove one persons rights leads to infringement on others. Nothing to do with do gooders, more to do with the hundreds of years of progress in our laws and penal services.

Show me one country where the death sentence has reduced serious crimes.

Hang murderers, next hang 'peados', how about gays? They hang them in Iran after all.

All the brave idiots screaming bring back hanging, the majority of them appear oblivious to the miscarriages of justice that resulted in innocents being hung. But they don't care about shit like that.

No, no, and fuck NO.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should it be brought back ?

I thinks they should be hanged by certain body parts ...

Like a man given a 6 month term to be hanged by his balls continuously

Or serious criminals to be hanged by their cocks for 2 hours at a time on a daily basis during their prison sentences...then again that might turn some them on ...lol

Rapists/ paedos being given a life sentence In prison and being raped non stop by a male horse for 20 hours of the day !

Hanging by death is too quick and over in a flash .....hence why life in prison is good etc....think they should bring back torture instead for very serious offences "

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

Not everyone released from prison after murder is given a new identity.

In this country life means 25 years in prison, then the rest of their natural life on license. In America this is very different, life means natural life. You want that to happen here, talk to the politicians that decide that stuff.

No hanging shouldn't be brought back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hanging no but electric chair should be used. To many do gooders in the country though so that would never happen. Apparently everyone has rights no matter what they have done.

Show me one country where the death sentence has reduced serious crimes.

Hang murderers, next hang 'peados', how about gays? They hang them in Iran after all.

No, no, and fuck NO. "

Differing of opinions do not equate to "brave idiots".

I stick by my argument posted above.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should it be brought back ?"
..YES AND YES.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Should it be brought back ?..YES AND YES.

Yes all the way !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As you prepare to hang, think back when you said you were for its reintroduction...dont bother thinking about the evidence thats coming forward that completely exonerates you of the guilt.

think about it.

too late.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For everyone who says yes, would you be prepaired to do it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its to good for some they need to suffer in some way .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A few years ago A guy built a bungalow without planning permission. When (finally) it was ordered to be demolished, he said he would shoot the planning officer (or whatever). On the day tv crews were there, police etc. He shot the man. Pleaded 'not guilty' in court & trial cost over 3.5million pounds (I understand)

No question of guilt. Why is he allowed to walk free after serving a sentence?"

those bungalowing lawyers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should it be brought back ?

I thinks they should be hanged by certain body parts ...

Like a man given a 6 month term to be hanged by his balls continuously

Or serious criminals to be hanged by their cocks for 2 hours at a time on a daily basis during their prison sentences...then again that might turn some them on ...lol

Rapists/ paedos being given a life sentence In prison and being raped non stop by a male horse for 20 hours of the day !

Hanging by death is too quick and over in a flash .....hence why life in prison is good etc....think they should bring back torture instead for very serious offences "

and who decides its ok to torture someone? what gets me with subjects like this is how people think its ok to pick and choose who can and cant commit crimes, hanging is murder, its a crime

Murder and torture is illegal in tis country full stop....ITS ILLEGAL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No

For everyone who says yes, would you be prepaired to do it? "

The real question should be: would you take on a job where you could be party to fulfilling the death penalty?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tougher sentences yes.

Hanging or any other death penalties no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No

For everyone who says yes, would you be prepaired to do it?

The real question should be: would you take on a job where you could be party to fulfilling the death penalty?

me personally no

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A question on ethics for those that don't believe in executing criminals - what about the British troops in Afghanistan? When they shoot and kill a Taliban fighter, aren't they also "executioners" paid by our government to end a life for crimes committed? Or is the difference that they aren't doing it on British soil? The argument could be "self defence", so why have weapons that can kill from many miles away? Is all killing on behalf of "the people" wrong, or is it justifiable if it's a military action?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?

Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?

Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?

Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?"

Point taken, respected and understood. I still vote yes though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"A question on ethics for those that don't believe in executing criminals - what about the British troops in Afghanistan? When they shoot and kill a Taliban fighter, aren't they also "executioners" paid by our government to end a life for crimes committed? Or is the difference that they aren't doing it on British soil? The argument could be "self defence", so why have weapons that can kill from many miles away? Is all killing on behalf of "the people" wrong, or is it justifiable if it's a military action?"

War crimes different thread

But I'm understanding where u coming from

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I'd rather life sentences and they only come out in a wooden box. I'd also build a huge floating prison in the North Sea and send them all there. At least if they were incarcerated in error, they could still be alive rather than game over no second chance. It's happened before with the guy from 10, Rillington Place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd rather life sentences and they only come out in a wooden box. I'd also build a huge floating prison in the North Sea and send them all there. At least if they were incarcerated in error, they could still be alive rather than game over no second chance. It's happened before with the guy from 10, Rillington Place. "

we could always start send them to Australia again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

War crimes different thread

But I'm understanding where u coming from "

As far as I'm aware, there has been no official declaration of war that has been accepted by both sides.

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By *U1966Man
over a year ago

Devon

Yes and should offer inmates to volunteer for the programme be great cost cutting exercise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

A state executioner would be do the job at the request of the government, just as the military do.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

we could always start send them to Australia again

What? In the lovely sun? I don't think so!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

John Christie ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we could always start send them to Australia again

What? In the lovely sun? I don't think so! "

I was just thinking, that's worth killing the ex for

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It should be a life for a life some crimes or crying out for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do people not think death is a easy way out tho?

if I thought I had to spend the rest of my life in prison i'd gladly take the death sentence, one quick injection and its all over or life in prison, I know the titles hanging bit lets be honest if they did bring back the death sentence they wouldn't hang people in England now days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

I've killed in the name of my country, I don't consider myself either.

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By *RYBBWCouple
over a year ago

Leeds.

"Yes it should for peados and cold blooded murder y should they get looked after in prison

And what if it was brought back ? How long would it be before an innocent man or woman was put to death ?

No justice system is infallible. And how would the pro-death sentence briggade feel after someone has their life taken away only for new evidence proving their innocence crops up afterwards ? Even signed conffessions are not proof of guilt as has been proven on countless occasions.

And what of their parents, wife, children ? Somehow I don't think sorry would quite cover it.

Look at the recent Corrie scandal. If hanging was in place how many people would have been standing outside the courts with plackards saying hang him ? Yet he was found not guilty.

People are too early to judge in some cases, especially where crimes against children are concerned. Not a good recipe when someones life is on the line.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do people not think death is a easy way out tho?

Probably be lethal injection ?

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By *RYBBWCouple
over a year ago

Leeds.

John Christie ? "

Good example. One of his tenants paid the ultimate price for murder of his wife and young child. The tenant was proved innocent, but was already long dead.

Then there's the Birmingham six. What if they had been executed ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes it should for peados and cold blooded murder y should they get looked after in prison

And what if it was brought back ? How long would it be before an innocent man or woman was put to death ?

And what of their parents, wife, children ? Somehow I don't think sorry would quite cover it.

Look at the recent Corrie scandal. If hanging was in place how many people would have been standing outside the courts with plackards saying hang him ? Yet he was found not guilty.

People are too early to judge in some cases, especially where crimes against children are concerned. Not a good recipe when someones life is on the line.

Thankfully they wouldn't be executed until after a trial, an appeal, an appeal to the European court and several campaigns by human rights groups.

It's highly unlikely that corporal punishment will ever come back to the UK so disgussing it is really a moot point. As for other countries, we can't really affect their policies, just be aware of them and not break the law if.we visit them...

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By *RYBBWCouple
over a year ago

Leeds.

"Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?

Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?

Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?

Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?

Point taken, respected and understood. I still vote yes though."

So you'd quite happily have innocent men and women killed ?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

John Christie ? "

yes, I saw the film with the guy from Brighton Rock in it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

John Christie ?

Good example. One of his tenants paid the ultimate price for murder of his wife and young child. The tenant was proved innocent, but was already long dead.

Then there's the Birmingham six. What if they had been executed ?"

Birmingham 6 doesn't that come under terrorists ?

I'm on about serial killers , pedos, rapist, hard core fook ups. They all should be hung , drawn and quartered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

life imprisonment for me is a better punishment than taking someones life.

evil begets evil, or something.

take a life and you are no better than them, the only difference is you have revenge on your side.

would rather it be life, proper life, until you die, with earned privileges whilst you are inside, not those that are given like sweeties and only taken away when you are let out.

but then, you SHOULD be given the opportunity for rehabilitation and to reconcile your wrongs, or are there only certain people that should be allowed the 2nd chance?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It makes little difference what a group of swingers think its not going to make the slightest difference what is posted on here. Its an emotive subject though and will get people posting with emotion on it as was the op's intention.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

John Christie ?

Good example. One of his tenants paid the ultimate price for murder of his wife and young child. The tenant was proved innocent, but was already long dead.

Then there's the Birmingham six. What if they had been executed ?"

at the trail of the Guilford four the judge actually said after they was found guilty that it was only a pity the death sentence no longer existed in this country, a sentence he would have no problem passing in this case!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

John Christie ?

Good example. One of his tenants paid the ultimate price for murder of his wife and young child. The tenant was proved innocent, but was already long dead.

Then there's the Birmingham six. What if they had been executed ?

Birmingham 6 doesn't that come under terrorists ?

I'm on about serial killers , pedos, rapist, hard core fook ups. They all should be hung , drawn and quartered. "

and a terrorist isn't a hard core fuck up?

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By *ames blackMan
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

'Show me one country where the death sentence has reduced serious crimes. '

Show me one executed murderer who has gone on to murder again!

I only advocate the death penalty in cases of cetain guilt (as in case mentioned previously)

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?

Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?

Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?

Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?

Point taken, respected and understood. I still vote yes though.

So you'd quite happily have innocent men and women killed ?

Who said anything about innocent people?

With all the different appeals courts and human rights groups its highly unlikely that anyone would be sentenced to death if there was even the slightest doubt as to their guilt.

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

I've killed in the name of my country, I don't consider myself either."

That's your perspective I don't consider you've killed for your country either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No ...its just state murder

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

I've killed in the name of my country, I don't consider myself either.

That's your perspective I don't consider you've killed for your country either.

Ask the victims of the London bus bombings. Not that I have to justify my military career to anyone...

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By *andWCouple
over a year ago

Pontypridd

"Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?

Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?

Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?

Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?"

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By *RYBBWCouple
over a year ago

Leeds.

John Christie ?

Good example. One of his tenants paid the ultimate price for murder of his wife and young child. The tenant was proved innocent, but was already long dead.

Then there's the Birmingham six. What if they had been executed ?

Birmingham 6 doesn't that come under terrorists ?

I'm on about serial killers , pedos, rapist, hard core fook ups. They all should be hung , drawn and quartered. "

But the Birmingham six weren't terrorists. They were wrongly convicted innocent men. As are some of the alleged pedo's, rapists and hardcore fook ups you refer to.

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

I've killed in the name of my country, I don't consider myself either.

That's your perspective I don't consider you've killed for your country either.

Ask the victims of the London bus bombings. Not that I have to justify my military career to anyone..."

Lol that trick, did you catch one of them then??"

And no you can't justify your military career to anyone.

Because you cant

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By *RYBBWCouple
over a year ago

Leeds.

"Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?

Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?

Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?

Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?

Point taken, respected and understood. I still vote yes though.

So you'd quite happily have innocent men and women killed ?

Who said anything about innocent people?

With all the different appeals courts and human rights groups its highly unlikely that anyone would be sentenced to death if there was even the slightest doubt as to their guilt. "

How many innocent people throughout history have been found guilty and executed ?

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over a year ago

John Christie ?

Good example. One of his tenants paid the ultimate price for murder of his wife and young child. The tenant was proved innocent, but was already long dead.

Then there's the Birmingham six. What if they had been executed ?

Birmingham 6 doesn't that come under terrorists ?

I'm on about serial killers , pedos, rapist, hard core fook ups. They all should be hung , drawn and quartered.

But the Birmingham six weren't terrorists. They were wrongly convicted innocent men. As are some of the alleged pedo's, rapists and hardcore fook ups you refer to."

and lets not bull shit ourselves here if the death sentence was bought back, terrorists would be the first on the list to get it, crimes against the country come much further up the list of importance than someone raping Josaphine Bloggs on her way back from the pub

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over a year ago

"In America u can get up to 500 yrs in jail for one murder or the chair (depending on what state u from ) over here u get 10 yrs

And yet the murder rate in the USA is way higher than it is in the UK, so which has the better deterrent?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

I've killed in the name of my country, I don't consider myself either.

That's your perspective I don't consider you've killed for your country either.

Ask the victims of the London bus bombings. Not that I have to justify my military career to anyone...

Lol that trick, did you catch one of them then??"

And no you can't justify your military career to anyone.

Because you cant"

You're entitled to your opinion, its something I'd quite happily fight for.

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

"In America u can get up to 500 yrs in jail for one murder or the chair (depending on what state u from ) over here u get 10 yrs

And yet the murder rate in the USA is way higher than it is in the UK, so which has the better deterrent?"

Why we have to look at the USA with one of the most human rights abuses all the time nuggets me.

That country is just wrong on many counts

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?

Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?

Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?

Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?

Point taken, respected and understood. I still vote yes though.

So you'd quite happily have innocent men and women killed ?

Who said anything about innocent people?

With all the different appeals courts and human rights groups its highly unlikely that anyone would be sentenced to death if there was even the slightest doubt as to their guilt.

How many innocent people throughout history have been found guilty and executed ?"

I will look into this when I have more time

I have to get ready for a hot meet

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By *andWCouple
over a year ago

Pontypridd

Apart from people wrongly convicted I'm sure there are families of those murdered who wouldn't want the murderer killed.

Some still hold the key to where their loved ones lay, if it were me I wouldn't want the hope of them some day telling me so I could bury them taken away from me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

I've killed in the name of my country, I don't consider myself either.

That's your perspective I don't consider you've killed for your country either.

Ask the victims of the London bus bombings. Not that I have to justify my military career to anyone...

Lol that trick, did you catch one of them then??"

And no you can't justify your military career to anyone.

Because you cant

You're entitled to your opinion, its something I'd quite happily fight for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?

Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?

Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?

Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?

Point taken, respected and understood. I still vote yes though.

So you'd quite happily have innocent men and women killed ?

Who said anything about innocent people?

With all the different appeals courts and human rights groups its highly unlikely that anyone would be sentenced to death if there was even the slightest doubt as to their guilt.

How many innocent people throughout history have been found guilty and executed ?"

Correct but that was, in this country at least, before the discovery and use of DNA evidence. If there is zero doubt as to someone's guilt then where's the problem?

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

I've killed in the name of my country, I don't consider myself either.

That's your perspective I don't consider you've killed for your country either.

Ask the victims of the London bus bombings. Not that I have to justify my military career to anyone...

Lol that trick, did you catch one of them then??"

And no you can't justify your military career to anyone.

Because you cant

You're entitled to your opinion, its something I'd quite happily fight for.

Try swinging for peace then

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By *andWCouple
over a year ago

Pontypridd

"Should it be brought back ?

I thinks they should be hanged by certain body parts ...

Like a man given a 6 month term to be hanged by his balls continuously

Or serious criminals to be hanged by their cocks for 2 hours at a time on a daily basis during their prison sentences...then again that might turn some them on ...lol

Rapists/ paedos being given a life sentence In prison and being raped non stop by a male horse for 20 hours of the day !

Hanging by death is too quick and over in a flash .....hence why life in prison is good etc....think they should bring back torture instead for very serious offences "

Bloody hell butt that's all sounds a bit fucked up to me!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

I've killed in the name of my country, I don't consider myself either.

That's your perspective I don't consider you've killed for your country either.

Ask the victims of the London bus bombings. Not that I have to justify my military career to anyone...

Lol that trick, did you catch one of them then??"

And no you can't justify your military career to anyone.

Because you cant

You're entitled to your opinion, its something I'd quite happily fight for.

Try swinging for peace then

Swinging from a tree

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

In certain cases and where there can be no doubt of guilt, I would willingly administer the injection or pull the trigger myself.

Keeping people incarcerated for a lifetime costs a fortune.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"In certain cases and where there can be no doubt of guilt, I would willingly administer the injection or pull the trigger myself.

Keeping people incarcerated for a lifetime costs a fortune."

Costs millions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

I've killed in the name of my country, I don't consider myself either.

That's your perspective I don't consider you've killed for your country either.

Ask the victims of the London bus bombings. Not that I have to justify my military career to anyone...

Lol that trick, did you catch one of them then??"

And no you can't justify your military career to anyone.

Because you cant

You're entitled to your opinion, its something I'd quite happily fight for.

Try swinging for peace then

Lol, I'd be quite happy to live the rest of my life in peace. Sadly the world isn't like that and sometimes good people need to do terrible things to try to keep others safe...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No but sometimes I think I wish they would.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"if a person takes another persons life intentional,they admit to the crime and its proven,yes.why should they be allowed to live,possibly in a good lifestyle in prison,fed.clothed.having leisure time,visits,and maybe to come out in fifteen years,with a new identity,to commit a similar crime again."

Even in war ?

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over a year ago

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

John Christie ?

Good example. One of his tenants paid the ultimate price for murder of his wife and young child. The tenant was proved innocent, but was already long dead.

Then there's the Birmingham six. What if they had been executed ?

Birmingham 6 doesn't that come under terrorists ?

I'm on about serial killers , pedos, rapist, hard core fook ups. They all should be hung , drawn and quartered.

and a terrorist isn't a hard core fuck up?"

Freedom Fighter...

We use terrorists too .... we just call them other things. like hero .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

I've killed in the name of my country, I don't consider myself either.

That's your perspective I don't consider you've killed for your country either.

Ask the victims of the London bus bombings. Not that I have to justify my military career to anyone...

Lol that trick, did you catch one of them then??"

And no you can't justify your military career to anyone.

Because you cant"

Er he can justify his military career

He can justify it to me

Because he can

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?

Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?

Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?

Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?

Point taken, respected and understood. I still vote yes though.

So you'd quite happily have innocent men and women killed ?

Who said anything about innocent people?

With all the different appeals courts and human rights groups its highly unlikely that anyone would be sentenced to death if there was even the slightest doubt as to their guilt.

How many innocent people throughout history have been found guilty and executed ?

Correct but that was, in this country at least, before the discovery and use of DNA evidence. If there is zero doubt as to someone's guilt then where's the problem?"

because not everyone agrees with killing, no I don't think its ok to rape or murder far from it but I also don't think its ok to pick and choose who can and who cant kill, murder is murder

If someone was harming my child and I walked in and saw them I would without a doubt do what I had to to protect my child, but as a calm and rational person sat here I cant honestly say I wouldnt be happy to kill someone for a crime unrelated to me because the law said I could, there for I cant condone someone else doing it

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

I've killed in the name of my country, I don't consider myself either.

That's your perspective I don't consider you've killed for your country either.

Ask the victims of the London bus bombings. Not that I have to justify my military career to anyone...

Lol that trick, did you catch one of them then??"

And no you can't justify your military career to anyone.

Because you cant

You're entitled to your opinion, its something I'd quite happily fight for.

Try swinging for peace then

Lol, I'd be quite happy to live the rest of my life in peace. Sadly the world isn't like that and sometimes good people need to do terrible things to try to keep others safe...

now that's where your naivety comes in.

its not about safe, we've lived through the IRA,

funded by the big USA

Look into the regions of power and control and resources you might be talking sense

And I am ex military

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

John Christie ?

Good example. One of his tenants paid the ultimate price for murder of his wife and young child. The tenant was proved innocent, but was already long dead.

Then there's the Birmingham six. What if they had been executed ?

Birmingham 6 doesn't that come under terrorists ?

I'm on about serial killers , pedos, rapist, hard core fook ups. They all should be hung , drawn and quartered.

and a terrorist isn't a hard core fuck up?

Freedom Fighter...

We use terrorists too .... we just call them other things. like hero ....."

I've already done the hero post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think making soylent green is a great idea...but what if the ingested criminals start taking control of our brains n bodies..then we go on to kill...and are then made into soylent green also.. its going to be the battle of good and evil, from the inside

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

John Christie ?

Good example. One of his tenants paid the ultimate price for murder of his wife and young child. The tenant was proved innocent, but was already long dead.

Then there's the Birmingham six. What if they had been executed ?

Birmingham 6 doesn't that come under terrorists ?

I'm on about serial killers , pedos, rapist, hard core fook ups. They all should be hung , drawn and quartered.

and a terrorist isn't a hard core fuck up?

Freedom Fighter...

We use terrorists too .... we just call them other things. like hero ....."

we don't call them heroes, just propaganda crap

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Even in war ?"

In war the top of the chain should bear the responsibility.

A soldier killing someone they shouldn't can be held accountable, yet the politicians, ministers and PMs who sanction illegal wars which they justify with lies, which kill tens or hundreds of thousands, what real punishment do they face?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

John Christie ?

Good example. One of his tenants paid the ultimate price for murder of his wife and young child. The tenant was proved innocent, but was already long dead.

Then there's the Birmingham six. What if they had been executed ?

Birmingham 6 doesn't that come under terrorists ?

I'm on about serial killers , pedos, rapist, hard core fook ups. They all should be hung , drawn and quartered.

But the Birmingham six weren't terrorists. They were wrongly convicted innocent men. As are some of the alleged pedo's, rapists and hardcore fook ups you refer to.

Hope they find the rapist and hang him

Poor Josie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?

Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?

Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?

Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?

Point taken, respected and understood. I still vote yes though.

So you'd quite happily have innocent men and women killed ?

Who said anything about innocent people?

With all the different appeals courts and human rights groups its highly unlikely that anyone would be sentenced to death if there was even the slightest doubt as to their guilt.

How many innocent people throughout history have been found guilty and executed ?

Correct but that was, in this country at least, before the discovery and use of DNA evidence. If there is zero doubt as to someone's guilt then where's the problem?

because not everyone agrees with killing, no I don't think its ok to rape or murder far from it but I also don't think its ok to pick and choose who can and who cant kill, murder is murder

And I respect your opinion on it, I've not once said it was wrong, it just differs to mine.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?

Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?

Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?

Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?

Point taken, respected and understood. I still vote yes though.

So you'd quite happily have innocent men and women killed ?

Who said anything about innocent people?

With all the different appeals courts and human rights groups its highly unlikely that anyone would be sentenced to death if there was even the slightest doubt as to their guilt.

How many innocent people throughout history have been found guilty and executed ?

Correct but that was, in this country at least, before the discovery and use of DNA evidence. If there is zero doubt as to someone's guilt then where's the problem?

because not everyone agrees with killing, no I don't think its ok to rape or murder far from it but I also don't think its ok to pick and choose who can and who cant kill, murder is murder

And I respect your opinion on it, I've not once said it was wrong, it just differs to mine."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?

Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?

Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?

Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?

Point taken, respected and understood. I still vote yes though.

So you'd quite happily have innocent men and women killed ?

Who said anything about innocent people?

With all the different appeals courts and human rights groups its highly unlikely that anyone would be sentenced to death if there was even the slightest doubt as to their guilt.

How many innocent people throughout history have been found guilty and executed ?

Correct but that was, in this country at least, before the discovery and use of DNA evidence. If there is zero doubt as to someone's guilt then where's the problem?

because not everyone agrees with killing, no I don't think its ok to rape or murder far from it but I also don't think its ok to pick and choose who can and who cant kill, murder is murder

And I respect your opinion on it, I've not once said it was wrong, it just differs to mine."

there no such thing as a wrong opinion

nobody on this thread is right or wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyway, why bring back hanging?- plenty of other countries do beheadings..seems a lot cheaper

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?

Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?

Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?

Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?

Point taken, respected and understood. I still vote yes though.

So you'd quite happily have innocent men and women killed ?

Who said anything about innocent people?

With all the different appeals courts and human rights groups its highly unlikely that anyone would be sentenced to death if there was even the slightest doubt as to their guilt.

How many innocent people throughout history have been found guilty and executed ?

Correct but that was, in this country at least, before the discovery and use of DNA evidence. If there is zero doubt as to someone's guilt then where's the problem?

because not everyone agrees with killing, no I don't think its ok to rape or murder far from it but I also don't think its ok to pick and choose who can and who cant kill, murder is murder

And I respect your opinion on it, I've not once said it was wrong, it just differs to mine.

there no such thing as a wrong opinion

nobody on this thread is right or wrong"

What about the person who condones torture ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I personally just could not imagine the type of person who could walk into a room and kill in cold bloody someone they do not know as a job

I personally find the idea of that scary

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?

Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?

Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?

Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?

Point taken, respected and understood. I still vote yes though.

So you'd quite happily have innocent men and women killed ?

Who said anything about innocent people?

With all the different appeals courts and human rights groups its highly unlikely that anyone would be sentenced to death if there was even the slightest doubt as to their guilt.

How many innocent people throughout history have been found guilty and executed ?

Correct but that was, in this country at least, before the discovery and use of DNA evidence. If there is zero doubt as to someone's guilt then where's the problem?

because not everyone agrees with killing, no I don't think its ok to rape or murder far from it but I also don't think its ok to pick and choose who can and who cant kill, murder is murder

And I respect your opinion on it, I've not once said it was wrong, it just differs to mine.

there no such thing as a wrong opinion

nobody on this thread is right or wrong

What about the person who condones torture ?"

that's still their opinion which I do not agree with but an opinion is something personal to you so cant be wrong surely? weird sure lol

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

I am in principle for the death penalty, but until there is absolutely no chance of a miscarriage of justice then I can't lobby for it. If the chance of a Stefan Kisko or Barry George is still there and the possibility of an innocent person being put to death then my conscience cannot support it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is there a country anywhere in the world that has proved that the death sentence is amyway a deterrent to crime?

Is their a justice system anywhere in the world that has never had a miscarriage of justice?

Can taking someones life be _iewed as a civilised act and have any place in a civilised society?

Should vengeance really play a part in justice?

So all those saying yes - does non of the above matter?

Point taken, respected and understood. I still vote yes though.

So you'd quite happily have innocent men and women killed ?

Who said anything about innocent people?

With all the different appeals courts and human rights groups its highly unlikely that anyone would be sentenced to death if there was even the slightest doubt as to their guilt.

How many innocent people throughout history have been found guilty and executed ?

Correct but that was, in this country at least, before the discovery and use of DNA evidence. If there is zero doubt as to someone's guilt then where's the problem?

because not everyone agrees with killing, no I don't think its ok to rape or murder far from it but I also don't think its ok to pick and choose who can and who cant kill, murder is murder

And I respect your opinion on it, I've not once said it was wrong, it just differs to mine.

there no such thing as a wrong opinion

nobody on this thread is right or wrong

What about the person who condones torture ?"

They're probably a bit wrong...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I personally just could not imagine the type of person who could walk into a room and kill in cold bloody someone they do not know as a job

I personally find the idea of that scary"

Taking a life in those circumstances must take its toll on a person as the victim has zero chance of escaping their fate. I dare say candidates would undergo some pretty stringent selection and their identity would remain secret..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Has anybody seen the documentary "into the abyss"

About two youths who committed the same murder. One got lethal injection the other life.

The one who got life is married with a child And the child is his

The executioner did over 500 executions he stopped when he had to execute a woman , it messed him up

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By *octor DeleriumMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

Oh, the delights of public execution at Tyburn and other assorted sites.

You could turn it into a family day out, I'll set up my delicious organic fresh food trailer and sell souvenirs.

The public house trade would rocket.

I'm sure demand for places would be so high that they would be allocated by ballot; more VAT for the government and all that extra hotel occupancy.

I'm actually, in favour, of Capital Punishment, as the advent of DNA, ENPR systems and mobile phones can produce credible evidence of a link with a crime and, I think for cases of murder and paedophilia, it would act as a deterrent.

Remember that the military authorities have always used execution as a means of encouraging 'les autres', Romans, WWII and WWII.

Convicted rapists could be emasculated; that would reduce secondary offending.

Thieves could loose a hand on the first offence, and the other on a second conviction.

Taking and driving or driving without insurance could lead to loss of a foot; a second offence takes the other foot. Difficult to drive with stumps.

In reply to one of the other comments; lethal injection is not always a humane method of execution, there are much more efficient and humane ways but, if we're going down the route of Capital Punishment, do we want a 'humane' method or, to achieve deterrence, should we opt for the most excruciating and prolonged means possible e.g. such as hanging, drawing and quartering with your pitched and preserved body parts distributed around the country for public _iewing and deterrence, or lingchi (death of a thousand cuts) which, if carried out under the Orders of The Emperor, could entail 3000 cuts and prolong the process for 3 days; turning you from a human being to a pile of slurry, a few bones and a skull?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Look at the amount in orisons all over world that have death penalty it has not reduced crime to any substantial degree.

What worries me os what if i or anyone else was actually accused and found guilty of a crime that was not comitted and you were yo be hung.

My mind goes back to a polish chap although nationality maybe wrong who spent 18yrs in jail and it turned out he was innocent no amount of money can compensate for this and sadly he died not long after release.

He could have been hung so on this basis i do not believe in hanging one as deterrent and two because possible miscarriage of justice.

What the answer to reduce crime is another matter but in case of sex offenders chemical castration should be used but again lets assume for one minute someone has it done but yrs later found to be innocent what about the individual.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes, surely most kind of death sentences must be more financially viable than paying food and accomodation guard wages and all other associated costs of keeping someone in prison for 20+ years

also i think the media should not publicise criminals and give them notoriety

(apologise for spelling errors)

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

"I personally just could not imagine the type of person who could walk into a room and kill in cold bloody someone they do not know as a job

I personally find the idea of that scary"

I look after people who, according to some in this thread, should be hung at the very least, some even suggest tortured. In the 2 weeks I have been doing the job, I have had to read some pretty scary profiles and court reports, yet I have found a way of treating them as a person, not an offense, I dare say a state executioner would find a way of doing that the other way around.

I could not kill someone, regardless of the offense they have committed, however, I also believe the death penalty has no place in modern society.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Oh, the delights of public execution at Tyburn and other assorted sites.

You could turn it into a family day out, I'll set up my delicious organic fresh food trailer and sell souvenirs.

The public house trade would rocket.

I'm sure demand for places would be so high that they would be allocated by ballot; more VAT for the government and all that extra hotel occupancy.

Remember that the military authorities have always used execution as a means of encouraging 'les autres', Romans, WWII and WWII.

Convicted rapists could be emasculated; that would reduce secondary offending.

Thieves could loose a hand on the first offence, and the other on a second conviction.

Taking and driving or driving without insurance could lead to loss of a foot; a second offence takes the other foot. Difficult to drive with stumps.

It's a day out in Arab countries to see a few limbs been chopped off

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

"What the answer to reduce crime is another matter but in case of sex offenders chemical castration should be used but again lets assume for one minute someone has it done but yrs later found to be innocent what about the individual."

Chemical castration is used in Broadmoor.

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By *andWCouple
over a year ago

Pontypridd

"Oh, the delights of public execution at Tyburn and other assorted sites.

You could turn it into a family day out, I'll set up my delicious organic fresh food trailer and sell souvenirs.

The public house trade would rocket.

I'm sure demand for places would be so high that they would be allocated by ballot; more VAT for the government and all that extra hotel occupancy.

Remember that the military authorities have always used execution as a means of encouraging 'les autres', Romans, WWII and WWII.

Convicted rapists could be emasculated; that would reduce secondary offending.

Thieves could loose a hand on the first offence, and the other on a second conviction.

Taking and driving or driving without insurance could lead to loss of a foot; a second offence takes the other foot. Difficult to drive with stumps.

Fantastic day out! The kids struggle and can't sleep without crying after watching ghost busters but public execution sounds great!

As long as it's cheaper than Alton Towers I'm a happy bunny

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

"In certain cases and where there can be no doubt of guilt, I would willingly administer the injection or pull the trigger myself.

Keeping people incarcerated for a lifetime costs a fortune."

In the USA it costs around $2.5 million to incarcerate a 20yr old male for life. It costs around $5 million to execute him - the cost argument is a complete fallacy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Oh, the delights of public execution at Tyburn and other assorted sites.

You could turn it into a family day out, I'll set up my delicious organic fresh food trailer and sell souvenirs.

The public house trade would rocket.

I'm sure demand for places would be so high that they would be allocated by ballot; more VAT for the government and all that extra hotel occupancy.

Remember that the military authorities have always used execution as a means of encouraging 'les autres', Romans, WWII and WWII.

Convicted rapists could be emasculated; that would reduce secondary offending.

Thieves could loose a hand on the first offence, and the other on a second conviction.

Taking and driving or driving without insurance could lead to loss of a foot; a second offence takes the other foot. Difficult to drive with stumps.

Fantastic day out! The kids struggle and can't sleep without crying after watching ghost busters but public execution sounds great!

As long as it's cheaper than Alton Towers I'm a happy bunny"

U let ur kids watch ghostbusters

Hang her

(Joke)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Look at the amount in orisons all over world that have death penalty it has not reduced crime to any substantial degree.

What worries me os what if i or anyone else was actually accused and found guilty of a crime that was not comitted and you were yo be hung.

He could have been hung so on this basis i do not believe in hanging one as deterrent and two because possible miscarriage of justice.

*I always listen with apathy towards the whole chemical castration and I think its nonsense, as it really does imply a physiological imbalance does it not?

As humans and a few other species, our drive for sex can be more complicated than that of animals, our desires are more complex on the whole and our satisfaction can come from many things, good or bad.

Surely looking around this site alone, we see some likes and dislikes that go against the biological _iew.I mean...if sniffing knickers gets some people into sexual excitement, its more about brain functioning than anything else.

Is the castration a message to them to say their sperm shall not be allowed to procreate (is this punishment?) or a fear that their behavior will carry on in their genes???????

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By *andWCouple
over a year ago

Pontypridd

"Oh, the delights of public execution at Tyburn and other assorted sites.

You could turn it into a family day out, I'll set up my delicious organic fresh food trailer and sell souvenirs.

The public house trade would rocket.

I'm sure demand for places would be so high that they would be allocated by ballot; more VAT for the government and all that extra hotel occupancy.

Remember that the military authorities have always used execution as a means of encouraging 'les autres', Romans, WWII and WWII.

Convicted rapists could be emasculated; that would reduce secondary offending.

Thieves could loose a hand on the first offence, and the other on a second conviction.

Taking and driving or driving without insurance could lead to loss of a foot; a second offence takes the other foot. Difficult to drive with stumps.

Fantastic day out! The kids struggle and can't sleep without crying after watching ghost busters but public execution sounds great!

As long as it's cheaper than Alton Towers I'm a happy bunny

U let ur kids watch ghostbusters

Hang her

(Joke)"

Actually I hadn't seen it myself since I was about 10 I was shocked by the sheer volume of sex references! I thought it was aimed at kids

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By *andWCouple
over a year ago

Pontypridd

"Look at the amount in orisons all over world that have death penalty it has not reduced crime to any substantial degree.

What worries me os what if i or anyone else was actually accused and found guilty of a crime that was not comitted and you were yo be hung.

He could have been hung so on this basis i do not believe in hanging one as deterrent and two because possible miscarriage of justice.

*I always listen with apathy towards the whole chemical castration and I think its nonsense, as it really does imply a physiological imbalance does it not?

Is the castration a message to them to say their sperm shall not be allowed to procreate (is this punishment?) or a fear that their behavior will carry on in their genes???????"

Although I completely agree with you on the apathy part, I don't think the message is you can't procreate as peadophiles can also target boys so wouldn't be expecting to procreate.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

in law there are no degrees of guilt.

Until there's a verdict of,

maybe a wee bit guilty,I would say no to the return of the death sentence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Remember the film Papillon with McQueen and Hoffman?

No to hanging, yes to that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Look at the amount in orisons all over world that have death penalty it has not reduced crime to any substantial degree.

What worries me os what if i or anyone else was actually accused and found guilty of a crime that was not comitted and you were yo be hung.

He could have been hung so on this basis i do not believe in hanging one as deterrent and two because possible miscarriage of justice.

*I always listen with apathy towards the whole chemical castration and I think its nonsense, as it really does imply a physiological imbalance does it not?

Is the castration a message to them to say their sperm shall not be allowed to procreate (is this punishment?) or a fear that their behavior will carry on in their genes???????

Although I completely agree with you on the apathy part, I don't think the message is you can't procreate as peadophiles can also target boys so wouldn't be expecting to procreate. "

pedophiles werent who I was namely just talking about lol

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"In certain cases and where there can be no doubt of guilt, I would willingly administer the injection or pull the trigger myself.

Keeping people incarcerated for a lifetime costs a fortune.

In the USA it costs around $2.5 million to incarcerate a 20yr old male for life. It costs around $5 million to execute him - the cost argument is a complete fallacy."

If it costs $5mill to execute someone, they are doing it wrong.

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By *andWCouple
over a year ago

Pontypridd

"Look at the amount in orisons all over world that have death penalty it has not reduced crime to any substantial degree.

What worries me os what if i or anyone else was actually accused and found guilty of a crime that was not comitted and you were yo be hung.

He could have been hung so on this basis i do not believe in hanging one as deterrent and two because possible miscarriage of justice.

*I always listen with apathy towards the whole chemical castration and I think its nonsense, as it really does imply a physiological imbalance does it not?

Is the castration a message to them to say their sperm shall not be allowed to procreate (is this punishment?) or a fear that their behavior will carry on in their genes???????

Although I completely agree with you on the apathy part, I don't think the message is you can't procreate as peadophiles can also target boys so wouldn't be expecting to procreate.

pedophiles werent who I was namely just talking about lol "

Ahh well then I agree lol x

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By *tirling DarkCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

A state executioner would be do the job at the request of the government, just as the military do."

Simply unbelievable, and who would be the first to scream for help from these so call murderers if their children were held hostage in a shopping centre? Or would your morals stop you from asking for their help? After all no wars been declared.

You have no idea what these people go through on the ground. Sickening that you compare British military with criminals in this way.

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

A state executioner would be do the job at the request of the government, just as the military do.

You have no idea what these people go through on the ground. Sickening that you compare British military with criminals in this way."

I'm all for the military , they do a great job

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

A state executioner would be do the job at the request of the government, just as the military do.

You have no idea what these people go through on the ground. Sickening that you compare British military with criminals in this way."

Best they gang up their guns then, like lambs to the slaughter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

A state executioner would be do the job at the request of the government, just as the military do.

You have no idea what these people go through on the ground. Sickening that you compare British military with criminals in this way."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In certain cases and where there can be no doubt of guilt, I would willingly administer the injection or pull the trigger myself.

Keeping people incarcerated for a lifetime costs a fortune.

In the USA it costs around $2.5 million to incarcerate a 20yr old male for life. It costs around $5 million to execute him - the cost argument is a complete fallacy."
where do you get your figures from ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

A state executioner would be do the job at the request of the government, just as the military do.

You have no idea what these people go through on the ground. Sickening that you compare British military with criminals in this way.

Best they gang up their guns then, like lambs to the slaughter"

are you for real ?

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

"In certain cases and where there can be no doubt of guilt, I would willingly administer the injection or pull the trigger myself.

Keeping people incarcerated for a lifetime costs a fortune.

In the USA it costs around $2.5 million to incarcerate a 20yr old male for life. It costs around $5 million to execute him - the cost argument is a complete fallacy.where do you get your figures from ?"

deathpenaltyinfo.org

The state of California alone has spent $4 billion on prosecuting death penalty cases in recent yes.

Would you have the UK justice system work on an even lower burden of proof than that of the US to save money?

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By *andWCouple
over a year ago

Pontypridd

I'm completely against it but actually when people put it in the perspective of your own children, I wouldn't need a judge to give that sentence if I had access

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The extreme lefties have killed this thread !

I wanted a good healthy heated debate

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

ah but if you kill in the name of your country your not a murderer your a hero

A state executioner would be do the job at the request of the government, just as the military do.

You have no idea what these people go through on the ground. Sickening that you compare British military with criminals in this way.

Best they gang up their guns then, like lambs to the slaughter

are you for real ?"

Should I have sympathy for the soldiers? No they signed up.

The bravest are the ones that leave

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We've gone massively off topic.

And, do you realize quite where we'd be without the sacrifices made by members of our armed and emergency services?

They answer the call to protect you and your freedom without question or complaint and then get treated like that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We've gone massively off topic.

And, do you realize quite where we'd be without the sacrifices made by members of our armed and emergency services?

They answer the call to protect you and your freedom without question or complaint and then get treated like that."

I agree with Mr Who. Without the armed forces this country is nothing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should I have sympathy for the soldiers? No they signed up.

The bravest are the ones that leave"

That's really rather a sad and selfish thing to say. I'll leave it at that as I really don't fancy getting a ban..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Eye for eye tooth for tooth hang all life sentance prisoners simple clear up the prisons and less taxpayers money wasted on these scum why should anybody think it's right to take a life what second chance did the victim get in all this.

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By *andWCouple
over a year ago

Pontypridd

Should I have sympathy for the soldiers? No they signed up.

The bravest are the ones that leave

That's really rather a sad and selfish thing to say. I'll leave it at that as I really don't fancy getting a ban.."

As with all life there are good and bad within the forces, lets hope 'the most moral' stay x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm surprised a racist comment hadn't been thrown in this thread.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"The extreme lefties have killed this thread !

I wanted a good healthy heated debate

You'll never get it on such an emotive subject.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've gone massively off topic.

And, do you realize quite where we'd be without the sacrifices made by members of our armed and emergency services?

They answer the call to protect you and your freedom without question or complaint and then get treated like that.

I agree with Mr Who. Without the armed forces this country is nothing.

Can you expand on that - I don't get what you mean?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm surprised a racist comment hadn't been thrown in this thread. "

Some may say that stating public executions are a family day out in arab countries fits the "racist comment" criteria

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We've gone massively off topic.

And, do you realize quite where we'd be without the sacrifices made by members of our armed and emergency services?

They answer the call to protect you and your freedom without question or complaint and then get treated like that.

I agree with Mr Who. Without the armed forces this country is nothing.

Can you expand on that - I don't get what you mean?"

U figure it out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The extreme lefties have killed this thread !

I wanted a good healthy heated debate

Extreme lefties? How has this thread been killed or not being a good healthy debate? Surely to get the debate you said you wanted you need the opposite opinion? So how does opposing opinions kill the thread?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've gone massively off topic.

And, do you realize quite where we'd be without the sacrifices made by members of our armed and emergency services?

They answer the call to protect you and your freedom without question or complaint and then get treated like that.

I agree with Mr Who. Without the armed forces this country is nothing.

Can you expand on that - I don't get what you mean?"

I really shouldn't have to should I, providing I'm dealing with those blessed with a little intelligence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The extreme lefties have killed this thread !

I wanted a good healthy heated debate

It's gone from hanging to bashing the armed forces, you figure it out...lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've gone massively off topic.

And, do you realize quite where we'd be without the sacrifices made by members of our armed and emergency services?

They answer the call to protect you and your freedom without question or complaint and then get treated like that.

I agree with Mr Who. Without the armed forces this country is nothing.

Can you expand on that - I don't get what you mean?

U figure it out "

Ok, the statement simply doesn't make sense. How can this country be nothing without it's armed forces? I don't know what you mean?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've gone massively off topic.

And, do you realize quite where we'd be without the sacrifices made by members of our armed and emergency services?

They answer the call to protect you and your freedom without question or complaint and then get treated like that.

I agree with Mr Who. Without the armed forces this country is nothing.

Can you expand on that - I don't get what you mean?

I really shouldn't have to should I, providing I'm dealing with those blessed with a little intelligence."

Are you seriously questioning my intelligence?

Your point makes sense, the claim that without the armed forces this country is nothing is ludicrous and doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely NO!!

Obviously those who said yes would be quite satisfied that themselves, family members, loved ones or friends will be wrongly convicted & killed, - correct?

Thought not!

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

"We've gone massively off topic.

And, do you realize quite where we'd be without the sacrifices made by members of our armed and emergency services?

They answer the call to protect you and your freedom without question or complaint and then get treated like that."

They didn't answer my call to be protected, they were sent by a war criminal mde from dodgy evidence.

they are not protecting us in anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't see the need for the death penalty / cruel punishments. As mentioned above these are all costly and do not undo the wrong done.

Why not commit them to indentured labour? Make them work in return for their food / clothing, so that they repay their debt to society. Extend the sentence / type of work to fit the crime. Could do wonders for the economy.

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By *extoysareusCouple
over a year ago

kinky heaven

"I don't see the need for the death penalty / cruel punishments. As mentioned above these are all costly and do not undo the wrong done.

Rhys why there's so many in prison in the US.

Does wonders for the economy and cheap labour

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"We've gone massively off topic.

And, do you realize quite where we'd be without the sacrifices made by members of our armed and emergency services?

They answer the call to protect you and your freedom without question or complaint and then get treated like that.

I agree with Mr Who. Without the armed forces this country is nothing.

Can you expand on that - I don't get what you mean?

I really shouldn't have to should I, providing I'm dealing with those blessed with a little intelligence.

Are you seriously questioning my intelligence?

Your point makes sense, the claim that without the armed forces this country is nothing is ludicrous and doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Without the Armed Forces this country wouldn't be a country at all. It would be a province of whoever fancied taking us over.

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