FabSwingers.com forum: One for all the truckers...

By *ingleguy1973 OP Man
over a year ago

peterborough

I understand from reading the forums etc that a number of fellow fabsters are truck drivers by profession so could one of you fine gentlemen or indeed ladies (no need for sexism here) please answer the following question...

Where in the Highway Code does it state that just because you are driving a fucking big lorry, the nano second that you indicate on dual carriageways or motorways, the traffic in the outside lane will part like the Red Sea before Moses and you can pull out without so much as a glance in your oversized mirrors thus allowing you to overtake another fucking big lorry just because you can go half a mile an hour faster than they can holding up the rest of the traffic that can actually exceed 58mph?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Page 10, 3rd paragraph.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Ah, yes, the little known "I'm fucking bigger than you, sonny" rule.

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By *ingleguy1973 OP Man
over a year ago

peterborough

"Page 10, 3rd paragraph.

Many thanks... I can sleep soundly in my bed knowing that.

Err... are you a trucker and if so, do you drive in those heels?

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By *ingleguy1973 OP Man
over a year ago

peterborough

"Ah, yes, the little known "I'm fucking bigger than you, sonny" rule.

As opposed to the "size doesn't matter" rule

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"I understand from reading the forums etc that a number of fellow fabsters are truck drivers by profession so could one of you fine gentlemen or indeed ladies (no need for sexism here) please answer the following question...

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its just after the page that says idiots in cars can pull across all three lanes to get up a slip road without indicating right across the front of a heavily leaden truck

and the page before that saying that on a soaking wet down hill approach to traffic lights the stupid moron in a car can pull into the breaking area of the same heavily leaden truck and not expect to get rear ended !

you see no group of drivers are perfect really are they ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Page 10, 3rd paragraph.

No, there must be some error.

That's the rule that says you can't pick up yer kids safely from school until all the big fat fuckers in their big fat SUV's who've parked on the kerb on the corner of the school entrance(*) to pick up their big fat kids have collected said big fat kids and moved away the second they're ready and not before.

(*) or as near as they can get due to other big fat fuckers being there upto 45 mins before them.

Purely observational you understand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its just after the page that says idiots in cars can pull across all three lanes to get up a slip road without indicating right across the front of a heavily leaden truck

you see no group of drivers are perfect really are they ?"

JESUS, if i were leaving up a slip road in this country i wouldn't be indicating right in any event.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Page 10, 3rd paragraph.

Isn't that the rule that states that when driving at around 60-65 mph on a motorway with little or no traffic around, you can sit in the middle lane and can ignore the any concept of lane discipline

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its just after the page that says idiots in cars can pull across all three lanes to get up a slip road without indicating right across the front of a heavily leaden truck

you see no group of drivers are perfect really are they ?"

the same section where it also states car drivers are allowed to pull out, in front of a truck, and only indicate AFTER said driver has slammed his breaks on and stood on his horn.

also, the section jsut before it says, in heavy traffic, a small car, with kids in the back, can squeeze itself into the smallest gap it wants, then realise its too close to the car in front, slam on its anchors, causing a truck to do likewise, hammering his horn in the process, and then getting abuse from said 'parent' while he suggests he is completely in the right to risk the lives of himself, his kids, and everyone around him.

car drivers, in their own little world, are more of a menace than most drivers, although i have to accept there are some really really bad truck drivers out there.

whilst finishing work this morning, i had to shout at one of uncle Eddies finest as he was pulling a trailer out of the yard, with a tyre coming off the rim.

always thought vehicle checks were overrated

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Page 10, 3rd paragraph.

Isn't that the rule that states that when driving at around 60-65 mph on a motorway with little or no traffic around, you can sit in the middle lane and can ignore the any concept of lane discipline "

After just driving on the M1

It's the rules that allows tossers to drive in the middle lane, erratic speed - texting !!!!

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Why do lorry drivers do this? Is it because they have cruise control on, fear of getting stuck behind a slower vehicle or are they under that much time pressure that they dare not lift off the gas pedal?

I see this so much on the motorways that you just anticipate it happening and move out a lane if possible.

Now there are bad drivers in all motoring groups, so rather than having a mud slinging match, lets ask genuinely why lorries do this?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I think part of the problem stems from car drivers expecting a large, laden lorry to handle like a car.

They don't consider momentum, visibility, different stopping distances, inability to swerve and massively reduced manoeuvring ability, and the time it takes to accelerate again after slowing, amongst other things.

It'd help on the roads, I think, if all drivers understood the issues facing those users of other types of vehicles, including motorcycles, cars, towing vehicles, trucks and articulated vehicles.

If others could drive, regardless of what they are driving, with the convenience of all other road users in mind, from a place of understanding, the roads would be nicer places.

Just my opinion though.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

If a lorry almost slams into the car in front it is being driven too fast and has not maintained a safe stopping distance.

If a car feels that a lorry is moving over without due warning it is being driven by someone who has not given due consideration to the lorry drivers visibility.

Accept resonsibility for what you do and for others the accidents will be fewer.

Every time a fuck poor excuse is made and someone else is blamed you're just exonerating yourself and refusing to see YOUR part in it.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"If a lorry almost slams into the car in front it is being driven too fast and has not maintained a safe stopping distance.

If a car feels that a lorry is moving over without due warning it is being driven by someone who has not given due consideration to the lorry drivers visibility.

Accept resonsibility for what you do and for others the accidents will be fewer.

Every time a fuck poor excuse is made and someone else is blamed you're just exonerating yourself and refusing to see YOUR part in it."

So what your saying is that it's ok to change lanes, even if it is not safe to do so because the driver can't see whats in the space he or she is moving into?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never go over 40 so everyone passes me by

In more ways than one lol

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

One reason I like the outside lane.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"I think part of the problem stems from car drivers expecting a large, laden lorry to handle like a car.

It'd help on the roads, I think, if all drivers understood the issues facing those users of other types of vehicles, including motorcycles, cars, towing vehicles, trucks and articulated vehicles.

If others could drive, regardless of what they are driving, with the convenience of all other road users in mind, from a place of understanding, the roads would be nicer places.

Just my opinion though."

That doesn't take into account those who indicate AND pull out at exactly the same time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im a trucker in heavy haulage.

I indicate before I intend, usually as one car us passing, thus giving plenty of time for car to my rear time to respond, I wont move unless im aware of the distance or ive been flashed.

I always drive on left.

I always leave plenty of room from car in front.

I over take slower lorries, we may all be restricted to similar speeds but its about hp....my truck will not slow on the average hill when others will, so why shouldnt I overtake???

Car drivers always moan about truck driving but I bet every one of you have been waiting on a delivery and wished to fuck it would hurry up.

How would an excuse for our lateness be accepted if we said. .."couldnt be arsed over taking anyone on the roads so just sat behind a slower lorry all the way here"....magic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im a trucker in heavy haulage.

I indicate before I intend, usually as one car us passing, thus giving plenty of time for car to my rear time to respond, I wont move unless im aware of the distance or ive been flashed.

I always drive on left.

I always leave plenty of room from car in front.

I over take slower lorries, we may all be restricted to similar speeds but its about hp....my truck will not slow on the average hill when others will, so why shouldnt I overtake???

Car drivers always moan about truck driving but I bet every one of you have been waiting on a delivery and wished to fuck it would hurry up.

How would an excuse for our lateness be accepted if we said. .."couldnt be arsed over taking anyone on the roads so just sat behind a slower lorry all the way here"....magic"

My partner is a hgv driver too, he has taught me to be a little more considerate to hgv drivers by allowing me to understand the difficulties they face and a minute by minute day! I swear we all need to give a little more respect to other drivers regardless of vehicle type as we r all wanting to get to our destination on time and alive! Peoe need to realise that a truck doesn't handle quite the same as a car, especially fully loaded! U just don't know what is behind those curtains and the m&s it could make by some drivers inconsiderate driving or mistakes!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

an HGV driver is taught to leave space in front for the huge stopping distances we have.

how helpfl is it for a car driver to see this gap and think we are leaving it for them?

we then have to drop back further, thusly pissing off those behind us.

as for the overtaking thing and the moving over thing, most trucks indicate before moving over, yes there are those that dont, and they are wankers, but only in equal measure to the other drivers that take the same action.

however, to indicate, have to slow down,m wait for the gap, move over, speed back up again, will mean lost momentum and cost more fuel for the company (this can cost my job, i shit you not).

maybe, the dick hogging the middle lane could notice the fucking great big orange flashing light right next to their window, and move over into the 3rd lane, which is empty at the time.

personally i have never moved over into another vehicles space, but i definitely flash my lights in displeasure after i have moved to remind the other driver there are other users on the roads.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The thing is people who have never driven a class 1 arent going to be aware of how tovdrive one.. so why expect them to. Best thing is keep in mind that they dont know and drive your class 1 accordingly.

same as many of us dont know the full extent of driving a train or flying a plane

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, Im a lorry driver so in lots of peoples eyes, Im as bad as the rest of them. Errr No!! Yet again its not a thread saying lorry drivers are great. Its always the same in life, most people only make comments about the worst of peoples trades!!! Im not saying Ive never made a mistake on the road but as its my living I do it to the best of my ability. Yes there are some crap lorry drivers out there, same as the crap car drivers. That said, there are lots of car drivers who do seem to understand how much room we need and to these I say 'thank-you'. To those who expect me to move over when their comming down a slip road, may I remind you that you ADJUST your speed limit to join the flow of traffic NOT me!!! You cant see whats on my right side overtaking me. And if your behind me, flashing your headlights and waving me to go faster, it wont happen. Why? becouse I know the speed limit for LGV's is different to cars!!! Plus it just pisses me of!!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"an HGV driver is taught to leave space in front for the huge stopping distances we have.

For the amount of lorries I see while driving on the M6 who drive really close to other lorries or cars then I think a lot of them have forgot what they were taught.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"an HGV driver is taught to leave space in front for the huge stopping distances we have.

For the amount of lorries I see while driving on the M6 who drive really close to other lorries or cars then I think a lot of them have forgot what they were taught.

PS, I am not saying only lorries do this, I am just answering the comment.

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over a year ago

"an HGV driver is taught to leave space in front for the huge stopping distances we have.

For the amount of lorries I see while driving on the M6 who drive really close to other lorries or cars then I think a lot of them have forgot what they were taught.

biggest cause of accidents and fatalities in truck incidents are caused by drivers of vehicles of the same company, when they drive in convoy a foot off the rear bumper of the one in front.

agree with you, but as said, the majority of us decent ones leave a gap, only for a car to sit itself in it.

especially in traffic.

it may feel intimidating having an HGV sat on your rear bumper, and i can appreciate that, but if we didnt, we may as well park up because everyone would pull in infront of us.

thats the reality of it.

we dont leave a gap for a car to pull in, we leave a gap so, if the car in front has to anchor up, we dont occupy the same space as them.

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By *bovethekneeCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire / Herefordshire

I drive lots of things and get treated differently depending on what I am in at the time. The worst has to be the horse box as no one wants to get 'stuck' behind me so idiots pull out

ridiculously close, forcing me to brake and hence throw the horses around. Because of this you tend to drive even slower as everyone is seen as a potential stopping hazard. Something else I learned while driving the lorry -you know those big signs that say slow down? And you all ignore them because it is miles to the junction/roundabout? Well they are there for lorries! It takes me that long to stop the truck smoothly. Pull into that gap in front of a lorry and you are risking it.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

My grandfather was, and my uncle and cousin are PSV and HGV drivers. My uncle is lead driver for a group of artics which drive all over the world.

I always try to be mindful of the space trucks need on roads, taking the speed of traffic into account. If a large vehicle needs to get out of a junction or needs to manoeuvre I'll let them out or hang back to give them space. Most thank me. I try to think about what they can see. I remember I have the acceleration and manoeuvrability to make it possible to get past them later.

I'm sure I don't always get it right but I try.

I pay attention behind me and look for motorcycles. If one comes up behind me I move over to the left to make space for if it tries to pass me and I drop back so it can pull in in front of me, without me on its rear wheel, if it needs to. I hang back so the rider can feel a bit more confident I'm not going to plow over the top of him.

It annoys me a bit when motorcyclists ride like arseholes, when cars cut in front of me or drive up my tailpipe, and when I'm held up by lorries passing each other with 1mph speed differences, especially on two lane roads or at busy times but I try to breathe and be patient.

I'd love for it to be easier/cheaper to get advanced driving tuition. I love driving, when I can actually drive (not crawl). I like to understand the physics and how and why it all works. I'd love to learn more.

I'd like to see the police and government focus more on driver education than speed. Of course, one costs money and one makes money so it won't be happening any time soon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The thing is people who have never driven a class 1 arent going to be aware of how tovdrive one.. so why expect them to. Best thing is keep in mind that they dont know and drive your class 1 accordingly.

same as many of us dont know the full extent of driving a train or flying a plane"

Ignorance is bliss then

I've never driven a HGV but you don't need to have to know the problems they have, slowing down and accelerating 38-40 tonnes of vehicle takes more time, if you're looking ahead when driving then the majority of the time you will know that certain vehicles are going to be wanting overtake another vehicle. I've left black lines and a cloud of tyre smoke on the carriageway, and had legs made of jelly because of truckers indicating and pulling out at the same time whilst the outside lane was also occupied. This is very infrequent and the vast majority of HGV drivers will not do this to you and can mostly be avoided if you are looking ahead further than the vehicle in front of you.

The complete lack of any training in motorway driving before passing a driving test could be deemed as a serious omission in driver training in this country. A lot of people don't seem to know how to use a slip road to join a dual carriageway or motorway safely.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"an HGV driver is taught to leave space in front for the huge stopping distances we have.

For the amount of lorries I see while driving on the M6 who drive really close to other lorries or cars then I think a lot of them have forgot what they were taught.

biggest cause of accidents and fatalities in truck incidents are caused by drivers of vehicles of the same company, when they drive in convoy a foot off the rear bumper of the one in front.

agree with you, but as said, the majority of us decent ones leave a gap, only for a car to sit itself in it.

especially in traffic.

it may feel intimidating having an HGV sat on your rear bumper, and i can appreciate that, but if we didnt, we may as well park up because everyone would pull in infront of us.

thats the reality of it.

we dont leave a gap for a car to pull in, we leave a gap so, if the car in front has to anchor up, we dont occupy the same space as them."

Then your posts are contradicting, as in one you say you use your stopping distances and this one says you don't?

An example this week on the motorway, I am in the middle overtaking, a lorry indicates to come out, I can't get into the outside so flash him to come out, he comes out then a lorry pulls in behind me so close that I think he wants to sit in my back seat. I still can't get out to the outside lane yet.

If I had to brake at any point he wouldn't have been able to stop so I would have been squished. How is that safe? Why do they think they shouldn't have to keep to stopping distances because as you say "it may feel intimidating having an HGV sat on your rear bumper, and i can appreciate that, but if we didnt, we may as well park up because everyone would pull in infront of us."

This is a common occurance on the motorways sadly and one that could be avoided if stopping distances were used.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just to add my 10 pence worth, the signs on the A14 stating that the overtaking lane is for vehicles below 7.5 tonne obviously are out of view for the "professional" drivers of 38 tonne plus trucks ! Wankers ! Probably can't see these signs whilst looking at the readers wives in Escort !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bugger it! I'm having 20 pence worth!

If I was in charge of handing out punishment for driving offences I'd ban lorry drivers for 6 months if caught driving too close to vehicle in front ! When they are 10 feet behind another lorry they can see fuck all apart from kerb one side and White line the other!!

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By *ucky1Man
over a year ago

a straightjacket

You get tossers in all kinds of vehicles, not just trucks.... oh and the maximum speed of a HGV on a motorway is 56MPH not 58

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Guys give our treasured lorry drivers a break. Sometimes they make mistakes but I challenge anyone to wank,text, make a brew and drive a lorry at same time. Not easy!

Keep on trucking.

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By *ucky1Man
over a year ago

a straightjacket

"Guys give our treasured lorry drivers a break. Sometimes they make mistakes but I challenge anyone to wank,text, make a brew and drive a lorry at same time. Not easy!

Keep on trucking."

You forgot the 'perving down into passing cars' aswell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Guys give our treasured lorry drivers a break. Sometimes they make mistakes but I challenge anyone to wank,text, make a brew and drive a lorry at same time. Not easy!

Keep on trucking.

You forgot the 'perving down into passing cars' aswell

Ahhh but that suggests they're paying attention to other road users!!!

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By *etanreadyCouple
over a year ago

dover

"Im a trucker in heavy haulage.

I indicate before I intend, usually as one car us passing, thus giving plenty of time for car to my rear time to respond, I wont move unless im aware of the distance or ive been flashed.

I always drive on left.

I always leave plenty of room from car in front.

I over take slower lorries, we may all be restricted to similar speeds but its about hp....my truck will not slow on the average hill when others will, so why shouldnt I overtake???

Car drivers always moan about truck driving but I bet every one of you have been waiting on a delivery and wished to fuck it would hurry up.

How would an excuse for our lateness be accepted if we said. .."couldnt be arsed over taking anyone on the roads so just sat behind a slower lorry all the way here"....magic"

spot on, from fellow truck driver

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

What is this? Them against us day?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The annoying thing is and I'll use the A14 as an example only because I spend so many hours sitting on that bloody road! You will get one lorry doing 55.5 mph and another will spend around 3 miles doing 55.6 mph trying to overtake with a queue of possibly 30 cars all stuck behind said lorry. When they get to the inevitable stationary traffic at the end of A14 the 2 lorries pull up behind each other therefore making the whole episode pointless! I say ban HGVs from overtaking between 6am and 8pm !!

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By *etanreadyCouple
over a year ago

dover

"You get tossers in all kinds of vehicles, not just trucks.... oh and the maximum speed of a HGV on a motorway is 56MPH not 58

sorry to correct you but its 60mph, its just that most lorrys are governed less than 60mph

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By *etanreadyCouple
over a year ago

dover

"What is this? Them against us day?

us will win every day of the week lol

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"What is this? Them against us day?

us will win every day of the week lol"

Don't bet on it. A car or a bike can nip into a gap and nip out again, or take off and be blissfully unaware of the jack-knifed lorry and the pile-up behind!

All vehicles have strengths and weaknesses.

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By *ucky1Man
over a year ago

a straightjacket

"You get tossers in all kinds of vehicles, not just trucks.... oh and the maximum speed of a HGV on a motorway is 56MPH not 58

sorry to correct you but its 60mph, its just that most lorrys are governed less than 60mph "

Yeah true, I said 56 as most companies govern them down for fuel ecomony reasons. The Irish lads and our foreign trucker friends dont have that constraint and fly by in excess of 60

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

there's good and bad in all drivers of whatever, and each of us are only as perfect as our next fuckup..

time, patience etc

stay safe..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

AFTER said driver has slammed his breaks on and stood on his horn.

causing a truck to do likewise, hammering his horn in the process."

Ouch , ouch , ouchitty ouch .

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By *etanreadyCouple
over a year ago

dover

"You get tossers in all kinds of vehicles, not just trucks.... oh and the maximum speed of a HGV on a motorway is 56MPH not 58

sorry to correct you but its 60mph, its just that most lorrys are governed less than 60mph

Yeah true, I said 56 as most companies govern them down for fuel ecomony reasons. The Irish lads and our foreign trucker friends dont have that constraint and fly by in excess of 60

a lot of the Scottish are the same

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"The annoying thing is and I'll use the A14 as an example only because I spend so many hours sitting on that bloody road! You will get one lorry doing 55.5 mph and another will spend around 3 miles doing 55.6 mph trying to overtake with a queue of possibly 30 cars all stuck behind said lorry. When they get to the inevitable stationary traffic at the end of A14 the 2 lorries pull up behind each other therefore making the whole episode pointless! I say ban HGVs from overtaking between 6am and 8pm !!

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and how would you get your deliverys on time you know the new fridge tv washing machine your groseries perhaps 90% of all goods in this country travel on a lorry but its ok cos were are all banned from over taking ! whilst we are at it all 4x4s should be banned from bieng within a mile of any school during term time now that would cut down on congestion

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"and how would you get your deliverys on time you know the new fridge tv washing machine your groseries perhaps 90% of all goods in this country travel on a lorry "

Leave earlier?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Size is everything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"and how would you get your deliverys on time you know the new fridge tv washing machine your groseries perhaps 90% of all goods in this country travel on a lorry

Leave earlier?"

In a nutshell!!!!!

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"and how would you get your deliverys on time you know the new fridge tv washing machine your groseries perhaps 90% of all goods in this country travel on a lorry

Leave earlier?"

All hgv drivers are limited to ten hours driving per day by law so how would leaving earlier to take longer help ? Would end up runnong out of hours

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By *ugby 123Couple
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"and how would you get your deliverys on time you know the new fridge tv washing machine your groseries perhaps 90% of all goods in this country travel on a lorry

Leave earlier?

All hgv drivers are limited to ten hours driving per day by law so how would leaving earlier to take longer help ? Would end up runnong out of hours

I think you missed the point a bit

I can't see how anyone can blame people who have ordered fridges for truckers bad driving.

A disclaimer, I know car and van drivers can be idiots at times too

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

When I was driving a truck I used to reckon that my indicator was connected to some cars accelerator pedal. As soon as I indicated the car in the next lane, that was far enough back for me to pull out safely, would accelerate to try and block me in. Luckily I discovered that my steering wheel was connected to their brakes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I go with the rule of thumb that if I csnt see a lorries mirrors he cant see me. At junctions where a lorry is turning right I hold back as I know they msy pull wide.

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By *rsFine-MrBallsCouple
over a year ago

markinch

Im a lorry driver too lol and really found this quite witty, Alot of truths and alot of misunderstandings regarding drivers and lorries, 1 of the best i like is when your sitting flat out at 56 mph in my lorry on the a92 and your catching up on the m3 bmw or the audi or the auld granny lol then as you indicate and pull out , move along side them , then they see out there side window your overtaking them. They put the foot down to make you pull back in behind them . Fannies . Lol

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over a year ago

"Im a lorry driver too lol and really found this quite witty, Alot of truths and alot of misunderstandings regarding drivers and lorries, 1 of the best i like is when your sitting flat out at 56 mph in my lorry on the a92 and your catching up on the m3 bmw or the audi or the auld granny lol then as you indicate and pull out , move along side them , then they see out there side window your overtaking them. They put the foot down to make you pull back in behind them . Fannies . Lol

That nearly made sense.

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over a year ago

"Why do lorry drivers do this? Is it because they have cruise control on, fear of getting stuck behind a slower vehicle?"

One valid reason is to avoid changing gear, depending on the load weight etc identical trucks will have speed differences, but on a slight incline once you change down it can take ages to change back up again. Burning more fuel than necessary. Sometimes when you have 36 gears 1 mph makes a lot of difference.

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over a year ago

"Why do lorry drivers do this? Is it because they have cruise control on, fear of getting stuck behind a slower vehicle?

It's difficult to change gear whilst making a sandwich,surfing for porn and brushing your teeth.

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over a year ago

"It's difficult to change gear whilst making a sandwich,surfing for porn and brushing your teeth."
You forgot peeing in a bottle

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over a year ago

"an HGV driver is taught to leave space in front for the huge stopping distances we have.

For the amount of lorries I see while driving on the M6 who drive really close to other lorries or cars then I think a lot of them have forgot what they were taught.

biggest cause of accidents and fatalities in truck incidents are caused by drivers of vehicles of the same company, when they drive in convoy a foot off the rear bumper of the one in front.

agree with you, but as said, the majority of us decent ones leave a gap, only for a car to sit itself in it.

especially in traffic.

it may feel intimidating having an HGV sat on your rear bumper, and i can appreciate that, but if we didnt, we may as well park up because everyone would pull in infront of us.

thats the reality of it.

we dont leave a gap for a car to pull in, we leave a gap so, if the car in front has to anchor up, we dont occupy the same space as them.

Then your posts are contradicting, as in one you say you use your stopping distances and this one says you don't?

This is a common occurance on the motorways sadly and one that could be avoided if stopping distances were used."

my point about leaving a minimal gap is purely in heavy traffic, thats standstill mostly.

i have always stated i leave a gap, its infuriating to have to keep dropping back to accomodate selfish car drivers, that, by the way, move over, then slow bloody down, but thats the way it has to be a lot of the time

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By *he Master JMan
over a year ago

Southall

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the limiter is actually set at 56mph except in the old scanias which had a habit of blowing fuse no 19 which did away with the limiter

having hauled some big loads 150 ton plus why do car drivers think that we can adjust our braking distance at traffic lights when they jump lanes

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over a year ago

i am now sat, happily, waiting for a load at Thurrock (or Furrock for the locals).

on my journey tonight, i have had 3 cars sat in the middle lane, going slower than i am, so what am i to do?

undertake?

slow down and wait for them to wake up?

this in normal flow of traffic, absolutely oblivious to everyone else.

have had a car, that was a fair oldd distance behind me, see me indicate to pull out, start my manouver (i actually saw his n/s headlight disappear behind my trailer) put his foot down and try to overtake me, running onto the white line, and concrete next to the central reservation (because where he had to be was worth risking his life for).

the mentality of SOME people beggars belief.

you have people that sit in the 'slow' lane, going very slowly, until a truck goes to overtake, then plants their foot on the go pedal, only to slow back down again after the lorry pulls back in

for the guy that said lorry drivers should be banned from overtaking, thats all well and good, and absolutely fine, until all the local shops are empty because we are all parked up when our driving hours run out (yes, 10 hours driving a day, but only 2 days a week).

the limitations on drivers are great (as in lots, but also good), and yet everyone wants everything yesterday, but dont want trucks on the road.

give the professional guys a break.

yes there are bad, and i have met a fair few of them, but there are also some very very good drivers out there that would put a lot of car only drivers to shame

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over a year ago

No matter what anyone says on here every driver will gripe and grumble about another and be oblivious to their own faults

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over a year ago

"i am now sat, happily, waiting for a load at Thurrock (or Furrock for the locals).

on my journey tonight, i have had 3 cars sat in the middle lane, going slower than i am, so what am i to do?

undertake?

slow down and wait for them to wake up?

this in normal flow of traffic, absolutely oblivious to everyone else.

the mentality of SOME people beggars belief.

you have people that sit in the 'slow' lane, going very slowly, until a truck goes to overtake, then plants their foot on the go pedal, only to slow back down again after the lorry pulls back in

the limitations on drivers are great (as in lots, but also good), and yet everyone wants everything yesterday, but dont want trucks on the road.

give the professional guys a break.

yes there are bad, and i have met a fair few of them, but there are also some very very good drivers out there that would put a lot of car only drivers to shame"

If it helps I'm playing some very sad music on my violin as I read this tragic tale of trucking hee hee hee.

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over a year ago

understand from reading the forums etc that a number of fellow fabsters

are truck drivers by profession so could one of you fine gentlemen or

indeed ladies (no need for sexism here) please answer the following

question...

Where in the Highway Code does it state that just because you are

driving a fucking big lorry, the nano second that you indicate on dual

carriageways or motorways, the traffic in the outside lane will part

like the Red Sea before Moses and you can pull out without so much as a

glance in your oversized mirrors thus allowing you to overtake another

fucking big lorry just because you can go half a mile an hour faster

than they can holding up the rest of the traffic that can actually

exceed 58mph?

lol i've done that.. I speed up when lorry's overtaking.. then pedal faster.. if he does get past bash his/her lorry with my bicycle pump!!! lol

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Thanks for the replies from the truck drivers. You have answered the original question.

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over a year ago

same as many of us dont know the full extent of driving a train or flying a plane"

Or driving a car...

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

I'd just like to point out that I'm having a new washing machine delivered in the morning so all you "anti trucker" types, don't get slowing down any Curry's lorries....lol.

I'm going to tease the drivers when they get here.....lol....mmmm now what shall I wear?

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By *RYBBWCouple
over a year ago

Leeds.

They're all too busy waffling on the CB radio.

10/4 good buddy, rubber duck etc.

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