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By *exySwing3rs OP   Couple
over a year ago

In Your Hearts

Good idea?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh you mean the governments sudden announcement on their energy policies.

They just don't seem to be ale me to make up their mind do they.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

48% Chinese funded ...let's pray it doesn't have ' made in Hong Kong ' stamped on it ...!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok OP I'm going to say yes it's a good idea.

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By *exySwing3rs OP   Couple
over a year ago

In Your Hearts

Certainly going to be a very divisive issue. People around Hinckley are not going to be happy.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

About bloody time..

More please.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Certainly going to be a very divisive issue. People around Hinckley are not going to be happy."

Yes I do feel really bad for them I have to say. It just seems there's no energy solution without pissing a lot of people off. We know because it's happening to us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"About bloody time..

More please."

We could have sorted ourselves out a loooooong time ago if the NIMBYS stopped protesting about wind and wave energy.

They're the kind of people who are the first to complain that energy bills are going up on the TV with a 4x4 sat in the back ground on the driveway of their 6 bedroom house (huge sweeping generalisation...).

We are screwed because we have lost our independence. We are too dependent on imported energy which leaves us exposed to fluctuations in the global energy market.

crystal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Certainly going to be a very divisive issue. People around Hinckley are not going to be happy."

I didn't know they were planning on building it in Hinckley, that's just up the road from me. It'll bring much needed jobs to the area (god knows we need it round here) and there's plenty of places they can put it where no-one will see it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our society is selfish and consumerist. It treats energy as a limitless resource and refuses to adapt to the fact that it isn't. So we don't have many options really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Certainly going to be a very divisive issue. People around Hinckley are not going to be happy.

I didn't know they were planning on building it in Hinckley, that's just up the road from me. It'll bring much needed jobs to the area (god knows we need it round here) and there's plenty of places they can put it where no-one will see it."

Its Hinkley in Somerset. There are already 2 plants there.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Yes, a good idea. Whether they implement it sensibly remains to be seen.

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By *icelymarkedMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Hinkley is just 10 miles from Cardiff and we are down wind. All the big plants are right on the coast. Did you know that in 1608 there was a huge tsunami up the Bristol Channel. Shades of the Japanese one!

And the sea level is rising all the time too.

Will leave the rest to imaginations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Certainly going to be a very divisive issue. People around Hinckley are not going to be happy.

I didn't know they were planning on building it in Hinckley, that's just up the road from me. It'll bring much needed jobs to the area (god knows we need it round here) and there's plenty of places they can put it where no-one will see it.

Its Hinkley in Somerset. There are already 2 plants there. "

Aah, that's why I hadn't heard about it then! D'oh!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"About bloody time..

More please.

We could have sorted ourselves out a loooooong time ago if the NIMBYS stopped protesting about wind and wave energy.

They're the kind of people who are the first to complain that energy bills are going up on the TV with a 4x4 sat in the back ground on the driveway of their 6 bedroom house (huge sweeping generalisation...).

We are screwed because we have lost our independence. We are too dependent on imported energy which leaves us exposed to fluctuations in the global energy market.

crystal"

You think wind farms are a good solution then?

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley


"48% Chinese funded ...let's pray it doesn't have ' made in Hong Kong ' stamped on it ...! "

The last one built was French design with American guard line (safety system) panels from a washing machine manufacturer built by the cheapest quote builder.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hinkley is just 10 miles from Cardiff and we are down wind. All the big plants are right on the coast. Did you know that in 1608 there was a huge tsunami up the Bristol Channel. Shades of the Japanese one!

And the sea level is rising all the time too.

Will leave the rest to imaginations."

Just as well nuclear power stations ate built for a once in 10,000 year incident like this. It should calm down even the most idiotic of panickers

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley


"Certainly going to be a very divisive issue. People around Hinckley are not going to be happy.

I didn't know they were planning on building it in Hinckley, that's just up the road from me. It'll bring much needed jobs to the area (god knows we need it round here) and there's plenty of places they can put it where no-one will see it.

Its Hinkley in Somerset. There are already 2 plants there. "

And it was always planned to have 3 there as well having 3 at size well in Suffolk.

The public consultation seems non existent this time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"About bloody time..

More please.

We could have sorted ourselves out a loooooong time ago if the NIMBYS stopped protesting about wind and wave energy.

They're the kind of people who are the first to complain that energy bills are going up on the TV with a 4x4 sat in the back ground on the driveway of their 6 bedroom house (huge sweeping generalisation...).

We are screwed because we have lost our independence. We are too dependent on imported energy which leaves us exposed to fluctuations in the global energy market.

crystal

You think wind farms are a good solution then?"

The daily output of the new Hinckley will be the equivalent of 6000 wind turbines on maximum output. Wind and solar technologies are not efficient yet.

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley


"About bloody time..

More please.

We could have sorted ourselves out a loooooong time ago if the NIMBYS stopped protesting about wind and wave energy.

They're the kind of people who are the first to complain that energy bills are going up on the TV with a 4x4 sat in the back ground on the driveway of their 6 bedroom house (huge sweeping generalisation...).

We are screwed because we have lost our independence. We are too dependent on imported energy which leaves us exposed to fluctuations in the global energy market.

crystal

You think wind farms are a good solution then?

The daily output of the new Hinckley will be the equivalent of 6000 wind turbines on maximum output. Wind and solar technologies are not efficient yet."

And yet the government as reduced the FIL and all but stopped research development into alternative energy sources

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

Current DBA for earthquake/tsunami is 1 in 10000 year event, DBA of Fukushima (designed late 60s, early 70s ) was 1 in 1000 year event...even were we to have another 'black swan' event the design along with the rest of the defence in depth should be enough to ensure safety of the plant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not greatest idea as we're guaranteeing profits massively for the future.. Wouldn't have been quite so bad if we'd guaranteed those profits to a UK company so we'd recoup some in taxes.. But hey ho.. If we're going to sell up everything may as well jump in with both feet!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"About bloody time..

More please.

We could have sorted ourselves out a loooooong time ago if the NIMBYS stopped protesting about wind and wave energy.

They're the kind of people who are the first to complain that energy bills are going up on the TV with a 4x4 sat in the back ground on the driveway of their 6 bedroom house (huge sweeping generalisation...).

We are screwed because we have lost our independence. We are too dependent on imported energy which leaves us exposed to fluctuations in the global energy market.

crystal

You think wind farms are a good solution then?

The daily output of the new Hinckley will be the equivalent of 6000 wind turbines on maximum output. Wind and solar technologies are not efficient yet.

And yet the government as reduced the FIL and all but stopped research development into alternative energy sources "

Have a look at your electric bill. 30% of what you pay subsidies green technology. Do you really want room pay more?

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By * pool 1Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool

And don't forget that we still sit on 200 years of coal reserves in this country would put a lot of people back to work in places where it is needed, but think we all agree that we have to be self sufficient in producing our own power at a price that is affordable to every body in the country

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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago

portsmouth


"About bloody time..

More please.

We could have sorted ourselves out a loooooong time ago if the NIMBYS stopped protesting about wind and wave energy.

They're the kind of people who are the first to complain that energy bills are going up on the TV with a 4x4 sat in the back ground on the driveway of their 6 bedroom house (huge sweeping generalisation...).

We are screwed because we have lost our independence. We are too dependent on imported energy which leaves us exposed to fluctuations in the global energy market.

crystal"
I'm afraid wind and waves will not fill the energy gap. We are all guilty of using more energy not just the type of people you refer too. Nuclear energy is now the only way forward.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And don't forget that we still sit on 200 years of coal reserves in this country would put a lot of people back to work in places where it is needed, but think we all agree that we have to be self sufficient in producing our own power at a price that is affordable to every body in the country "

Yeah. Because burning coal fits in with reducing CO2 comittments

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Short answer - very good idea. Longer term, if we get a coherent energy policy together, then we *should* be ok. Trouble is, at the moment we don't. Nuclear power plants etc. take a decade or so to build and come on stream. That's two government terms, and how many governments think that far ahead?

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By * pool 1Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"And don't forget that we still sit on 200 years of coal reserves in this country would put a lot of people back to work in places where it is needed, but think we all agree that we have to be self sufficient in producing our own power at a price that is affordable to every body in the country

Yeah. Because burning coal fits in with reducing CO2 comittments "

Do you think China and India give two hoots about co2 commitments ? put the people of this country first for a change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Certainly going to be a very divisive issue. People around Hinckley are not going to be happy.

I didn't know they were planning on building it in Hinckley, that's just up the road from me. It'll bring much needed jobs to the area (god knows we need it round here) and there's plenty of places they can put it where no-one will see it.

Its Hinkley in Somerset. There are already 2 plants there. "

In our local paper it says that the Chinese have put in a bid to build one in "Bradwell on Sea" Essex which is almost on my door step, but as there is one already there which is being decommissioned, I don't think it will bother two many people here in the area just as long as they use our folks to work it !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well at least Homer Simpson will be happy ....mmmmmmm donuts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And don't forget that we still sit on 200 years of coal reserves in this country would put a lot of people back to work in places where it is needed, but think we all agree that we have to be self sufficient in producing our own power at a price that is affordable to every body in the country

Yeah. Because burning coal fits in with reducing CO2 comittments

Do you think China and India give two hoots about co2 commitments ? put the people of this country first for a change."

no. But they didn't have Tony Blair in charge to sign these international agreements.

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By *pecifically1Woman
over a year ago

Hull


"And don't forget that we still sit on 200 years of coal reserves in this country would put a lot of people back to work in places where it is needed, but think we all agree that we have to be self sufficient in producing our own power at a price that is affordable to every body in the country "

I come from a coal mining community where all the pits closed. Unfortunately regardless of the wonderful reserves we have it is not economical to dig it out the ground. People living near open casts complain bitterly never mind the impact on wildlife etc and deep mining is simply too expensive.

If we all logged off and stopped using power we would not need anywhere near as much energy...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And don't forget that we still sit on 200 years of coal reserves in this country would put a lot of people back to work in places where it is needed, but think we all agree that we have to be self sufficient in producing our own power at a price that is affordable to every body in the country

I come from a coal mining community where all the pits closed. Unfortunately regardless of the wonderful reserves we have it is not economical to dig it out the ground. People living near open casts complain bitterly never mind the impact on wildlife etc and deep mining is simply too expensive.

If we all logged off and stopped using power we would not need anywhere near as much energy..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"About bloody time..

More please.

We could have sorted ourselves out a loooooong time ago if the NIMBYS stopped protesting about wind and wave energy.

They're the kind of people who are the first to complain that energy bills are going up on the TV with a 4x4 sat in the back ground on the driveway of their 6 bedroom house (huge sweeping generalisation...).

We are screwed because we have lost our independence. We are too dependent on imported energy which leaves us exposed to fluctuations in the global energy market.

crystalI'm afraid wind and waves will not fill the energy gap. We are all guilty of using more energy not just the type of people you refer too. Nuclear energy is now the only way forward. "

I am pro nuclear and with the likes of Sellafield, we have the ability to reprocess nuclear waste to reduce what we're burying in the ground. I do think that we should be taking more advantage of the fact we're an island and get more of our energy from the sea.

crystal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"About bloody time..

More please.

We could have sorted ourselves out a loooooong time ago if the NIMBYS stopped protesting about wind and wave energy.

They're the kind of people who are the first to complain that energy bills are going up on the TV with a 4x4 sat in the back ground on the driveway of their 6 bedroom house (huge sweeping generalisation...).

We are screwed because we have lost our independence. We are too dependent on imported energy which leaves us exposed to fluctuations in the global energy market.

crystal

You think wind farms are a good solution then?"

Offshore wind farms could be used to help us produce our own energy.

The nuclear plant will certainly be more productive but I think we should be investing in more than one method of energy to protect us from fluctuations in nuclear reprocessing and waste disposal, manufacturing costs, maintenance costs.

I would love to work in a nuclear plant and with other renewable energies.

crystal

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"And don't forget that we still sit on 200 years of coal reserves in this country would put a lot of people back to work in places where it is needed, but think we all agree that we have to be self sufficient in producing our own power at a price that is affordable to every body in the country

Yeah. Because burning coal fits in with reducing CO2 comittments "

If we could make carbon capture and storage work on a large scale, it just might.

Update existing power stations, burn UK coal. Gotta be worth a try.

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By * pool 1Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool

Britain’s CO2 emissions represent 1.6 per cent of the world’s total.

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By * pool 1Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool

GORDON Lawrence (Yorkshire Post, June 29) dismisses Britain’s enormous coal reserves, stating that if the seams are too thin, if the coal is too deep, if current levels of technology make extraction uneconomic, there are more suitable sources of energy available and it would be a waste of resources to spend money on mining coal.

Previous generations of miners did not appear to accept such a negative outlook but wasn’t the main reason for closing our coal industry caused by Britain agreeing to cut CO2 emissions from the burning of coal?

Britain’s CO2 emissions represent 1.6 per cent of the world’s total, yet we are so bloated with our perceived importance to believe reducing this already minute amount will save the world. It is even more unbelievable that Britain’s government has agreed to reduce this minuscule amount by 90 per cent by 2030.

Of course, advanced clean-coal technology which can extract 90 per cent of CO2 emissions would have reduced this anyway and provided employment for thousands of our own people, used our own coal and made us energy independent and not at the mercy of supplies of energy from other countries, but this is, apparently, too difficult to comprehend

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

that we as a nation are in the situation whereby French taxpayers will benefit from EDF is an indictment of a lack of long term planning by all Political parties over the past 40 to 50 years..

cheers you bunch of out of touch muppets..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cold fusion is the answer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or Frack the desolate north

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By *cottishrichMan
over a year ago

Here and there


"Cold fusion is the answer"

We're not quite there yet though. For now fission is still the way to go, though I do think we should be looking at Thorium as a fuel rather than Uranium.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Heard the "Beautiful South" is already fracked up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tesla solved all the worlds energy problems , but how would they make money then ?

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By *S_PennyTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

As someone that has worked on nuclear decommissioning projects I say the safety levels that are worked on on this country along with our relatively stable tectonic position should make this new reactor as safe as it can possibly be. As for the siting, it makes sense to me to build on existing sites. After all the are already there, so communities already have them there so if they are effectively replacing the ones that are being decommissioned then the greater risk argument is often negated. If you think about the fact that you can get a large amount of energy from a relatively small amount of uranium rock then surely it makes sense. There are no emissions from the use of the fuel unlike Coal, Gas, etc. Carbon capture is totally unproven at large scale and I am more than uncomfortable with increasing coal use. I do think however not enough emphasis is placed on small residential level off grid networks or a much better drive to improve energy efficiency both throughout the grid and in consumers. On reflection this is in my mind a decision we should have made 10 years ago at least though as we have known there was going to be an energy shortfall for sometime.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

CC&S still doesn't work properly but if we can make it work it's a technology we can export + we can use existing power stations + we can hew coal again.

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By *S_PennyTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

If we can get it to work yes it would be great to export especially to China where they have huge numbers of coal fired power stations.

The only thing that makes me worry about this decision is the guaranteed rate of production price they will be getting. I know it has to happen to get the investment but knowing this government they are probably giving their fat cat mates great rates.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't we use dilithium crystals?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

The only thing that makes me worry about this decision is the guaranteed rate of production price they will be getting.

"

that's the major factor in all of this..

sets a precedent..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The world is fucked, another nuclear reactor, just makes the end a little nearer, thank god I made the decision not to breed children.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

we are seriously thinking of moving somewhere where we can downsize and go energy neutral..

feels like a shafting and its only going to get worse..

said before there are certain area's of a countries infrastructure you just don't sell..

the French must be pissing themselves at us..

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


".....

the French must be pissing themselves at us..

"

That's pretty much how they feel about maybe having to lend us an aircraft carrier.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


".....

the French must be pissing themselves at us..

That's pretty much how they feel about maybe having to lend us an aircraft carrier."

do we have any planes that can use one..?

think the museums may have a few Swordfish we could dig out..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".....

the French must be pissing themselves at us..

That's pretty much how they feel about maybe having to lend us an aircraft carrier."

That's a whole new thread , ...and another debacle ..

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley


"About bloody time..

More please.

We could have sorted ourselves out a loooooong time ago if the NIMBYS stopped protesting about wind and wave energy.

They're the kind of people who are the first to complain that energy bills are going up on the TV with a 4x4 sat in the back ground on the driveway of their 6 bedroom house (huge sweeping generalisation...).

We are screwed because we have lost our independence. We are too dependent on imported energy which leaves us exposed to fluctuations in the global energy market.

crystal

You think wind farms are a good solution then?

The daily output of the new Hinckley will be the equivalent of 6000 wind turbines on maximum output. Wind and solar technologies are not efficient yet.

And yet the government as reduced the FIL and all but stopped research development into alternative energy sources

Have a look at your electric bill. 30% of what you pay subsidies green technology. Do you really want room pay more? "

I be amazed if 30% went to renewables. Bet more goes in bonuses

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By *ohnjones3210Man
over a year ago

Chester

I think its a good idea aslong as they keep the standards high.

There's actually a nuclear pp in the Wirral near me that many people don't know about apparently.

They're fine Aslong as people don't take risks!

That's what I think anyway!

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley


"I think its a good idea aslong as they keep the standards high.

There's actually a nuclear pp in the Wirral near me that many people don't know about apparently.

They're fine Aslong as people don't take risks!

That's what I think anyway!"

Sizewell B had five automatic safety systems plus end operator plus the rods were designed to fail safe, the French design called for three auto systems, so it shows that safety was in mind. Also the cooling systems were well over the top. The reactor building were double lined with silica sand inside that helped stop any leakage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"About bloody time..

More please.

We could have sorted ourselves out a loooooong time ago if the NIMBYS stopped protesting about wind and wave energy.

They're the kind of people who are the first to complain that energy bills are going up on the TV with a 4x4 sat in the back ground on the driveway of their 6 bedroom house (huge sweeping generalisation...).

We are screwed because we have lost our independence. We are too dependent on imported energy which leaves us exposed to fluctuations in the global energy market.

crystal

You think wind farms are a good solution then?

The daily output of the new Hinckley will be the equivalent of 6000 wind turbines on maximum output. Wind and solar technologies are not efficient yet.

And yet the government as reduced the FIL and all but stopped research development into alternative energy sources

Have a look at your electric bill. 30% of what you pay subsidies green technology. Do you really want room pay more?

I be amazed if 30% went to renewables. Bet more goes in bonuses "

Be amazed then. Its green taxes that that fucktard Red Ed 'man of the common people' brought in. I work in the electric industry and what he done is crippling companies. All in the name of inefficient windmills

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley


"About bloody time..

More please.

We could have sorted ourselves out a loooooong time ago if the NIMBYS stopped protesting about wind and wave energy.

They're the kind of people who are the first to complain that energy bills are going up on the TV with a 4x4 sat in the back ground on the driveway of their 6 bedroom house (huge sweeping generalisation...).

We are screwed because we have lost our independence. We are too dependent on imported energy which leaves us exposed to fluctuations in the global energy market.

crystal

You think wind farms are a good solution then?

The daily output of the new Hinckley will be the equivalent of 6000 wind turbines on maximum output. Wind and solar technologies are not efficient yet.

And yet the government as reduced the FIL and all but stopped research development into alternative energy sources

Have a look at your electric bill. 30% of what you pay subsidies green technology. Do you really want room pay more?

I be amazed if 30% went to renewables. Bet more goes in bonuses

Be amazed then. Its green taxes that that fucktard Red Ed 'man of the common people' brought in. I work in the electric industry and what he done is crippling companies. All in the name of inefficient windmills"

As far as I am aware the wind generation is heavily subed my central government. Development in PV solar is done mainly in other countries. Nuclear design done mainly in other countries as nuclear electric we're disbanded because they were not considered cost effective.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I heard Osborne say: cheaper electricity in the future; north sea oil comes to mind - 'yeah, right George!!'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".....

the French must be pissing themselves at us..

That's pretty much how they feel about maybe having to lend us an aircraft carrier."

Hahah both the above made me larf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"that we as a nation are in the situation whereby French taxpayers will benefit from EDF is an indictment of a lack of long term planning by all Political parties over the past 40 to 50 years..

cheers you bunch of out of touch muppets.."

It would have only needed the last 20 years to plan for our needs today and the medium term

We have no cohesive policies though out our political spectrum

Is nuclear a way to go yes but totally state funded and controlled as far as I am concerned .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if this nuclear power station is meant to produce 70% of the uk electricity,i expect the rest will come from what we have ,so will that make the wind farms redundant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"About bloody time..

More please.

We could have sorted ourselves out a loooooong time ago if the NIMBYS stopped protesting about wind and wave energy.

They're the kind of people who are the first to complain that energy bills are going up on the TV with a 4x4 sat in the back ground on the driveway of their 6 bedroom house (huge sweeping generalisation...).

We are screwed because we have lost our independence. We are too dependent on imported energy which leaves us exposed to fluctuations in the global energy market.

crystal

You think wind farms are a good solution then?

The daily output of the new Hinckley will be the equivalent of 6000 wind turbines on maximum output. Wind and solar technologies are not efficient yet.

And yet the government as reduced the FIL and all but stopped research development into alternative energy sources

Have a look at your electric bill. 30% of what you pay subsidies green technology. Do you really want room pay more?

I be amazed if 30% went to renewables. Bet more goes in bonuses

Be amazed then. Its green taxes that that fucktard Red Ed 'man of the common people' brought in. I work in the electric industry and what he done is crippling companies. All in the name of inefficient windmills

As far as I am aware the wind generation is heavily subed my central government. Development in PV solar is done mainly in other countries. Nuclear design done mainly in other countries as nuclear electric we're disbanded because they were not considered cost effective. "

The 2 taxes introduced are RO and FIT. One pays for development, the other pays to subsidise the Feed In Tariffs that people and companies get for wind farms and solar panels.

Neither tax existed a couple of years ago.

The problem with the rise in power is more to do with the non energy costs (taxes, distribution, infrastrucure etc) and less to do with energy costs ( the cost of generating electricity).

I have customers you have seen a 25% increase since their last contract round that is solely because of the RO and FIT charges, that were not part of their previous contract.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who is going to pay for the waste storage ????

Where are they going to store it ????

Who is going to pay for decommissioning of these places ??????

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Wait a minute,that will be good old Britain I guess

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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria


"Who is going to pay for the waste storage ????

Where are they going to store it ????

Who is going to pay for decommissioning of these places ??????

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Wait a minute,that will be good old Britain I guess "

Any nuclear new build includes a decommissioning plan nowadays, we'll no doubt reprocess the spent fuel up here at Sellafield and the 3% waste plus reusable product will be stored here too like as not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who is going to pay for the waste storage ????

Where are they going to store it ????

Who is going to pay for decommissioning of these places ??????

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Wait a minute,that will be good old Britain I guess

Any nuclear new build includes a decommissioning plan nowadays, we'll no doubt reprocess the spent fuel up here at Sellafield and the 3% waste plus reusable product will be stored here too like as not "

According to todays news,the cost of the new plant is £16 billion.

The NDA are quoting a cost of around £55 billion to decommission a nuclear power plant.

Current estimates that will rise to around £100 billion.

Wonder if any company or government has factored in this cost ?????

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"And don't forget that we still sit on 200 years of coal reserves in this country would put a lot of people back to work in places where it is needed, but think we all agree that we have to be self sufficient in producing our own power at a price that is affordable to every body in the country

I come from a coal mining community where all the pits closed. Unfortunately regardless of the wonderful reserves we have it is not economical to dig it out the ground. People living near open casts complain bitterly never mind the impact on wildlife etc and deep mining is simply too expensive.

If we all logged off and stopped using power we would not need anywhere near as much energy..."

and that is the problem.

Too many people using too much power, but as soon as someone comes up with a solution it is shouted down as too expensive- polar bear killing- ice cap melting Etc Etc Etc.

Bottom line is, Britain does not have the capacity to power over 60 million people, useless bloody windmills will do nothing to solve the problem, and nuclear has been pushed back and is now 20 years too late. Coal is far too dirty (in the eyes of the greens) and expensive, so in the short term at least best buy a few candles.

BTW I support the new power station but I think it is too little too late.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

In an ideal world, I'd suggest loads of wind turbines out at sea. I think Nuclear Power stations are relatively safe in this country, not being in an earthquake zone helps, I guess. What I'm not comfortable with is the Chinese and French involvement. Power/energy blackmail/ransom might become a political issue in years to come.

Dinosaurs=oil=plastic=plastic dinosaurs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh you mean the governments sudden announcement on their energy policies.

They just don't seem to be ale me to make up their mind do they.

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Yes !! But don't worry about the soaring costs of energy. The government have it all under control. The building of new power stations will mean the fuel costs will be lower..... In about twenty years time eh !!

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

Nuclear fission has an incredibly high yield, but a legacy of highly dangerous long half life waste.

30 years ago, fusion was "just around the corner" - it still is.

I worry about critical national infrastructure being in foreign hands.

Although I know nationalised industries are incredibly bureaucratic and inefficient, I think I'd rather have people employed than on the dole.

I don't think fission is the way to go, even if we used thorium reactors (which this one isn't). But more than that, I'm dismayed that we aren't building it ourselves with UK expertise and ownership.

De-nationalisation is the worst legacy from the thatcher era. We no longer own our own energy, transport, ports, airports, telecomms etc etc. A parlous state of affairs that no other country would tolerate.

I despair

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over a year ago

It was reported in the news over here that they have been guaranteed double the price of electricity that is currently been charged to consumers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good idea? "

A necessary evil unless we start limiting how much electricity people can use.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen


"It was reported in the news over here that they have been guaranteed double the price of electricity that is currently been charged to consumers "

They've done a deal whereby EDF will be paid approx twice the current wholesale price. Obviously EDF is betting on the wholesale price not doubling before they get the reactor on-line. The UK govt is betting that the wholesale price will double at some point and thus EDF will be forced to honour the agreement and live with the fixed price deal they struck.

As we, the UK govt, won't own the site, my guess is that they'll take the money early on in the life of the reactor, and when wholesale prices double, they'll just stick two fingers up and charge whatever they can get away with.

It's disastrous that the UK doesn't own it's own critical national infrastructure.

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By * pool 1Couple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I worry about critical national infrastructure being in foreign hands.

Although I know nationalised industries are incredibly bureaucratic and inefficient, I think I'd rather have people employed than on the dole.

But more than that, I'm dismayed that we aren't building it ourselves with UK expertise and ownership.

De-nationalisation is the worst legacy from the thatcher era. We no longer own our own energy, transport, ports, airports, telecomms etc etc. A parlous state of affairs that no other country would tolerate.

I despair"

Totally agree with your points and have contacted my MP to ask the question why we are not building these power stations ourselves, and do urge others to do the same.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

And we could build around 10 if these things if we wanted to, for the cost of HS2

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