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By *dam_Tina OP Couple
over a year ago

Hampshire

On second thoughts, we won't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if we take the right squad then who knows how we will fair.

take:

hart

jags

cahill

gerrard

for their experience

and then add youngsters

thownsend

berahino

morrison

rodwell

maybe even ince

kids play with no fear.

let them go and express themselves.

Neville is doing a wonderful job trying to temper hodgesons natural defensive tactics and with them both trying to mix a solid defence with flair in attack, it COULD be our best tournament for a long while

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we were lucky to get the win last night as we could have conceded a cpl of slopping goals quite easily if the polish had a decent striker.was a good game but with our defence or should i say lack of one we dont have a chance of winning

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't see in the future England winning the World Cup again, to many factors,politics and two much money in the premiership.sorry but not in my life time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If we had a couple of natural strikers we could and should have scored 6 last night!

But we are still a long way behind brazil, Germany, Spain, holland, Argentina

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we have a kid in the under 21's who has scored 8 goals in 4 internationals.

also scored against man u in the prem, and scored 4 goals in 2 league cup matches.

the kids going to be a superstar if he carries on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"if we take the right squad then who knows how we will fair.

take:

hart

jags

cahill

gerrard

for their experience

and then add youngsters

thownsend

berahino

morrison

rodwell

maybe even ince

kids play with no fear.

let them go and express themselves.

Looks good to me.

Where's Wilshere and Sturridge or is that a given?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"if we take the right squad then who knows how we will fair.

take:

hart

jags

cahill

gerrard

for their experience

and then add youngsters

thownsend

berahino

morrison

rodwell

maybe even ince

kids play with no fear.

let them go and express themselves.

Looks good to me.

Where's Wilshere and Sturridge or is that a given?"

yeah, i think they would be a given, as well as welbeck and bains. cole could be left at home and take the young lad from southampton as cover on th eleft (shaw is it?)

we still have a problem at right back as the 2 candidates at the moment are both too attacking for my liking, and not very good defensively, but there is 8 months yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"yeah, i think they would be a given, as well as welbeck and bains. cole could be left at home and take the young lad from southampton as cover on th eleft (shaw is it?)

we still have a problem at right back as the 2 candidates at the moment are both too attacking for my liking, and not very good defensively, but there is 8 months yet"

We might as well be attacking. We don't have much defensive cover.

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By *dam_Tina OP Couple
over a year ago

Hampshire

I hate to say it as a Chelsea boy, but I think Baines is now a better left back than Cole - certainly his delivery is a lot better, and he doesn't take 5 minutes over a throw in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On second thoughts, we won't

Oh and im really gutted .........not.

hahahahaha

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By *dam_Tina OP Couple
over a year ago

Hampshire

"On second thoughts, we won't

Oh and im really gutted .........not.

hahahahaha

Love the caption on your pic !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"yeah, i think they would be a given, as well as welbeck and bains. cole could be left at home and take the young lad from southampton as cover on th eleft (shaw is it?)

we still have a problem at right back as the 2 candidates at the moment are both too attacking for my liking, and not very good defensively, but there is 8 months yet

We might as well be attacking. We don't have much defensive cover."

dunno.

we have 2 players in every position and a number that can fill in in an emergency.

its in the sticks we only really have 2 options.

foster and hart, as any other keeper is untested, and thats a failure on the managers part.

across the back we have

baines/cole/shaw

jagielka/smalling

cahill/jones

johnson/walker/richards

with both smalling and jones able to fill in at RB if need be, so the defence isnt as big a worry as it may seem.

up front we have

rooney/sturridge/welbeck and thats without the young lads scoring too, and any of those mentioned can work perfectly well as a single striker at the point of the team.

i thinl what the last 2 games proved was there is still a place in international football for 4-4-2

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

if it was my 23 i would take

keepers : Hart,Forster,Ruddy

Defenders: Johnson,Walker,Baines,Cole,Cahill,Jagilka,Smalling and Jones

Midfielders: Lennon,Townsend,Gerrard,Lampard,Wilshere,Carrick,Milner,Gibbs

Strikers:

Rooney,Sturridge,Welbeck,Walcott

I would take a 3rd left back and you could easily play gibbs or cole left midfield if needed.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On second thoughts, we won't

Not a chance but it will give the country a lift and something to look forward next summer and anything that makes people smile is always good

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

"On second thoughts, we won't

Not a chance but it will give the country a lift and something to look forward next summer and anything that makes people smile is always good

I only want England to win it so they WON'T keep on about 1966 lol

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By *punkloverCouple
over a year ago

hatfield

And from a woman's point of view, bring back Becks !!!!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Im not a football fan but i do watch the world cup. Have to say i always love the English optimizim. Flags everywhere, cars beeping their horns when we score its like a carnival. Then as the seekers would say the carnival is over

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"if it was my 23 i would take

keepers : Hart,Forster,Ruddy

Defenders: Johnson,Walker,Baines,Cole,Cahill,Jagilka,Smalling and Jones

Midfielders: Lennon,Townsend,Gerrard,Lampard,Wilshere,Carrick,Milner,Gibbs

Strikers:

Rooney,Sturridge,Welbeck,Walcott

I would take a 3rd left back and you could easily play gibbs or cole left midfield if needed.....

i have long advocated playing baines as a left winger.

he seems naturally fluid going forward, and cole really is better at defending, but i reckon they would compliment each other.

same on the other side.

johnson would make a great winger, although now we have lots of options there anyway, its a moot point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im not a football fan but i do watch the world cup. Have to say i always love the English optimizim. Flags everywhere, cars beeping their horns when we score its like a carnival. Then as the seekers would say the carnival is over"

If you think that is bad you should come over here when we get to a major championship, the country comes to a standstill ...win, lose or draw

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think 4-3-3 is England's way forward given the players we have but I won't knock the 4-4-2 as you're right, it has worked.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

If you think that is bad you should come over here when we get to a major championship, the country comes to a standstill ...win, lose or draw

Thats cause it happens as often as haley's comet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you think that is bad you should come over here when we get to a major championship, the country comes to a standstill ...win, lose or draw

Thats cause it happens as often as haley's comet

we arnt that bad, Haley's comet is about every 25 years, probably closer to the amount of times that i get a shag

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"I think 4-3-3 is England's way forward given the players we have but I won't knock the 4-4-2 as you're right, it has worked. "

actually fall me super cool.. i like england in the 4-2-3-1 formation...

gerrard and Carrick/Wilshere as your 2... then walcott - rooney (as the "10")- welbeck

and sturridge up front.....

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

"I think 4-3-3 is England's way forward given the players we have but I won't knock the 4-4-2 as you're right, it has worked. "

It's more 4-1-2-1-2 anyway!

Thought Carrick had a terrible game last night though, he's no Michael Essien!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With a four hr time difference I'm more interested in what time of the day the matches will be...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Overall it was one of England's better performances and against a live opponent who wanted to win.. Very entertaining game... Seemed as though lewandowski carried the demons from the last time he faced hart.. his prematch comnents suggests so, at least.

I think if the draw is relatively kind, we can make the semi finals....gives the flags a decent bit of air time

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

"Overall it was one of England's better performances and against a live opponent who wanted to win.. Very entertaining game... Seemed as though lewandowski carried the demons from the last time he faced hart.. his prematch comnents suggests so, at least.

I think if the draw is relatively kind, we can make the semi finals....gives the flags a decent bit of air time

Glad they weren't as 'live' as Ukraine, that would have made an arse-twitching 90 minutes if we'd needed to win that to go through automatically!

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By *nJ_NW_cplCouple
over a year ago

wirral

As the saying goes you have to be in it to win it. Will we? Don’t think so. Can we? Yes we can. On our day we can beat any team, the problem is we would have to play at 100% in every game and even then it might not be enough. Stranger things have happened xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if the draw is relatively kind, we can make the semi finals....gives the flags a decent bit of air time

Glad they weren't as 'live' as Ukraine, that would have made an arse-twitching 90 minutes if we'd needed to win that to go through automatically!"

Lol, goes with the territory. They're a decent side with a very hand striker... We're decent side with perhaps a few more known players.. A decider like last night will always be nervy..but I felt we had a decent balance between defence and offence...and looked far better going forward than in recent times.. Onwards and upwards, with a lil arse twitching on the way!

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By *kywatcherMan
over a year ago

Southwick

We won't win anything until 2022...Greg Dyke has already said this so I'm not really sure we should even bother going to Brazil.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With a four hr time difference I'm more interested in what time of the day the matches will be..."

They're 5 or 6 hours behind us so the games will be 10pm & 2am- Ish??? Late nights at home & in the pub - perfect!

Some of our commentators make me laugh; they're predicting that England should reach the last 16 at least or maybe the 1/4 finals ................ & the draw hasn't even taken place yet!! LOLZ

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm going have you seem some of the stunners in Brazil ? And that's just the shemales

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

our Scottish neighbors are taking this Independence thing to seriously by not coming to Brazil with us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"our Scottish neighbors are taking this Independence thing to seriously by not coming to Brazil with us "

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

Brazil is currently 4 hours behind us (it'll be the same for the World Cup as that'll be BST too) and the majority of games are at 17:00 BST and 21:00 BST (some are at 20:00 BST and 23:00 BST).

So 9pm, 1am (Midnight and 3am) kick-offs.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

The fixture list is on the BBC website and the Opening Ceremony probably starts this Saturday to get it completed by 12th June 2014!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Beat me to it

I figured on north American eastern time but a quick look at my Atlas......

Lolz - sorry for the poor info.

Them kick-off times are pretty much perfect for us!

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

If you're an insomniac or work permanent afternoon shifts, perhaps!

I'll be on the break before I go to Uni though, so happy days!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Brazil is currently 4 hours behind us (it'll be the same for the World Cup as that'll be BST too) and the majority of games are at 17:00 BST and 21:00 BST (some are at 20:00 BST and 23:00 BST).

So 9pm, 1am (Midnight and 3am) kick-offs."

ooooh....so close...... but the BST stands for British Standard Time......

so all of the times showing are uk....

so 5pm, 8pm and 11pm kick offs for first round games....

2nd round and quarter-final games will be 5pm and 9pm kick offs...

semi-finals will be 9pm kick offs...

and the final will be sunday night at 8pm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"if we take the right squad then who knows how we will fair.

take:

hart

jags

cahill

gerrard

for their experience

and then add youngsters

thownsend

berahino

morrison

rodwell

maybe even ince

kids play with no fear.

let them go and express themselves.

Well that wouldnt b hard.face it youse are nowhere near the real football countries.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They're all pretty much perfect times - happy days!! .........although I might be in Asia so that's crap!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No team from Europe has ever won a World Cup in South America. I can't see us getting past the quarter finals.

I don't remember worst centre back pairing than Jagielka and Cahill top strikers will exploit this. After this tournament we should retire everyone over 30 from the squad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No team from Europe has ever won a World Cup in South America. I can't see us getting past the quarter finals.

I don't remember worst centre back pairing than Jagielka and Cahill top strikers will exploit this. After this tournament we should retire everyone over 30 from the squad."

P.S This is Wayne Lynn is Scottish she is in for a painful summer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No team from Europe has ever won a World Cup in South America. I can't see us getting past the quarter finals.

I don't remember worst centre back pairing than Jagielka and Cahill top strikers will exploit this. After this tournament we should retire everyone over 30 from the squad."

I'd wait for the draw 1st - we may not even get out of the group!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Brazil is currently 4 hours behind us (it'll be the same for the World Cup as that'll be BST too) and the majority of games are at 17:00 BST and 21:00 BST (some are at 20:00 BST and 23:00 BST).

So 9pm, 1am (Midnight and 3am) kick-offs.

ooooh....so close...... but the BST stands for British Standard Time......

so all of the times showing are uk....

so 5pm, 8pm and 11pm kick offs for first round games....

2nd round and quarter-final games will be 5pm and 9pm kick offs...

semi-finals will be 9pm kick offs...

and the final will be sunday night at 8pm

Everyone should use Zulu Time. Makes much more sense.

On a more practical note, I see prices of c£7,000 to go and watch the first few rounds + more in the (unlikely) event England go any further.

Will ordinary fans be able to afford/ get time off from signing on to go?

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By *atelotmanMan
over a year ago

Chatham

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

"Brazil is currently 4 hours behind us (it'll be the same for the World Cup as that'll be BST too) and the majority of games are at 17:00 BST and 21:00 BST (some are at 20:00 BST and 23:00 BST).

So 9pm, 1am (Midnight and 3am) kick-offs.

ooooh....so close...... but the BST stands for British Standard Time......

so all of the times showing are uk....

so 5pm, 8pm and 11pm kick offs for first round games....

2nd round and quarter-final games will be 5pm and 9pm kick offs...

semi-finals will be 9pm kick offs...

and the final will be sunday night at 8pm

Fuck, I'm a dickhead!

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

Stupid to think that FIFA wouldn't have consulted whoever was paying them the most for TV rights first

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Na we won't. And when we don't, where ever that match is held will be set for the asshole thugs rioting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On second thoughts, we won't

no,you silly billy we wont.lol.x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not in my life time. looking at another 50+ years at least!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If we're drawn with two South American teams in our group, which is quite feasible, then I don't fancy our chances of getting out of the group, I'm afraid!

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By *GR2014Man
over a year ago

England

Brazil will beat Belgium in the final me thinks

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

For a long while there was a tale in the Scottish media about a contingent of the Tartan Army who had 'liberated' a submarine and set off for Argentina '78.

The story goes they're still out there .... somewhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never win nothing with kids .. Ask that scotish bloke

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"If we're drawn with two South American teams in our group, which is quite feasible, then I don't fancy our chances of getting out of the group, I'm afraid! "

no chance of that happening.....

in the group stages they would have teams from the same confederation with the exception of europe

pot 1 will be brazil.. and the next 7 highest teams in the fifa world rankings.... Spain, Argentina, Germany will make 4 of the eight...

this is where the fun starts... if they go purely on the rankings the next 4 tomorrow should be Columbia, Belgium, Uruguay (who have to play in a play off against Jordan) and Switzerland....

yes, Switzerland.....

so you have a 2nd "european pot" that is going to contain holland, italy, england, Russia, potentially france, and potentially portugal,

the african, and rest of the south american teams will be in the same pot and the lowest ranked european team

the asian teams will be a pot with the north american teams...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Switzerland seeded? No way!

....hold on; Sepp Blatter.......

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Switzerland seeded? No way!

....hold on; Sepp Blatter.......

it would have been italy if they had won one of their last two qualifers.... but they drew them both! so Switzerland jumped them....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck the taking players for the right positions .Just take 11 penalty takers and the cups ours

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Switzerland seeded? No way!

....hold on; Sepp Blatter.......

it would have been italy if they had won one of their last two qualifers.... but they drew them both! so Switzerland jumped them...."

So, you've probably Italy & Uruguay

lurking unseeded - 'ouch' if you're drawn with them!!

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

Whether they win or not........ I'll be supporting our boys all the way.

Absolutely enjoyed last night's game and already excited about next summer in Brazil.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whether they win or not........ I'll be supporting our boys all the way.

Absolutely enjoyed last night's game and already excited about next summer in Brazil."

Yes, last nights game was very good; - I thought it would be a drab, tense affair but it was end to end stuff. Very enjoyable.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley

It was tense but in a far nicer way than previous qualifying campaigns. We at least looked like the game was there for the taking, given the rub of the green...in an almost mixing my metaphors kind of way!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's barely been 24hrs since qualification & I see the usual trashy corner of the media are slinging the shit already. So predictable!

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By *unluvinsoulxMan
over a year ago

Newton Abbot

I don't usually watch a lot of football but wow that game was amazing and I hope it only gets better in brazil

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't usually watch a lot of football but wow that game was amazing and I hope it only gets better in brazil

I agree, dude; - I prefer rugby but that was a damn good game to watch!

But now the infamous Sun has found itself a molehill to make a mountain of!

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By *unluvinsoulxMan
over a year ago

Newton Abbot

"I don't usually watch a lot of football but wow that game was amazing and I hope it only gets better in brazil

I agree, dude; - I prefer rugby but that was a damn good game to watch!

But now the infamous Sun has found itself a molehill to make a mountain of!"

The first half had to be some of the best football I have seen England play. My brother on law and me was sat on the edge of our seats! Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah me too lol.

I guess if you don't suffer a little then you don't get as big a buzz!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I overheard a conversation in the bookies today.

Someone was asking if the guy behind the counter could explain the odds re England winning the World Cup.

He said 'suppose the odds are 20-1, for every £1 you put on, you lose £1.'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most probably true but just like somebodu said to me once, regarding winning the lottery;

You've gotta be init to win it init! .......okay, I was in London at the time

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