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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just a heads up, at 22:20 tonight on ITV.

Even if you're not a Formula 1 fan its a fascinating documentary about an amazing man.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just a heads up, at 22:20 tonight on ITV.

Even if you're not a Formula 1 fan its a fascinating documentary about an amazing man."

Him and Jim Clarke best ever in my book will be watching.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet

Senna died in a crash at Imola. That was a bad weekend for F1

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

His friends used to call him Pod cos of the tyre streaks he left.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet

He was, but it might be the prog about Lauda that you saw recently, The Senna Film is amazing

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet

Senna died in a crash at Imola. That was a bad weekend for F1

Barrachello injured in a crash on the Friday. Ratzenburger killed during qualifying on the Saturday and Senna killed during the race on Sunday. A truly horrific weekend for the sport.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet

He was, but it might be the prog about Lauda that you saw recently, The Senna Film is amazing

Ah yes Nicki Lauder, now i remember

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I saw thread and thought it was about laxatives

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never really watched Formula 1. Who were they? A short summary would be appreciated if possible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet

Senna died in a crash at Imola. That was a bad weekend for F1

Barrachello injured in a crash on the Friday. Ratzenburger killed during qualifying on the Saturday and Senna killed during the race on Sunday. A truly horrific weekend for the sport.

I thought that Senna was killed in practice, from memory????

But I do recall either Barrichello or Ratzenburger (excuse my spelling) having almost exactly the same accident on that same 180mph left hander - yet he hit the concrete wall slightly higher & survived.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Thanks for the heads up. I've set it to record.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet

Senna died in a crash at Imola. That was a bad weekend for F1

Barrachello injured in a crash on the Friday. Ratzenburger killed during qualifying on the Saturday and Senna killed during the race on Sunday. A truly horrific weekend for the sport.

I thought that Senna was killed in practice, from memory????

No, Senna was killed during the race on Sunday. He was the last driver killed in F1.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

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cheers for the heads up ...didnt know it was on but will definately be watching this now

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"I saw thread and thought it was about laxatives

You drip!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ayrton Senna da Silva 21 March 1960 – 1 May 1994) was a Brazilian racing driver who won three Formula One world championships. He was killed in an accident while leading the 1994 San Marino Grand Prix. He remains the last driver fatality in Formula One.

Unbelievable tragic waste of a great man. I was watching that race and it was horrific x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I stand corrected - apologies to all.

Yep, he was a truly brilliant racing driver, no doubt about that!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'd really like to see a similar documentary about Alex Zanardi. He lost both his legs in a horrific crash in 2001 in an IndyCar race and went on to win a gold medal at the London Paralympic games.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

is this just another documentry... or is this the film about him that everyone raves on about...

if so.. will definately sky plus it!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"is this just another documentry... or is this the film about him that everyone raves on about...

if so.. will definately sky plus it!"

It's the film everyone raves about, and for good reason. It is superb...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hindsights a great thing but the race shouldn't have gone ahead,after the death in qualifying on the Saturday.

I don't believe in fate and Ayrton Senna would still be here today,a brilliant driver.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This documentary won a BAFTA - so it has to be good; I'll definitely be watching!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hindsights a great thing but the race shouldn't have gone ahead,after the death in qualifying on the Saturday.

I don't believe in fate and Ayrton Senna would still be here today,a brilliant driver."

Unfortunately, it took the death of a high profile driver like Senna to introduce the safety devices they have now, notably the HANS device they wear to stop whiplash, that was a direct result of Imola as it was a broken neck and head trauma that killed him.

Without that Schumacher would have died and Mark Webber and Robert Kubizer

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

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"Just a heads up, at 22:20 tonight on ITV.

Even if you're not a Formula 1 fan its a fascinating documentary about an amazing man."
I will start calling you Radio times man....thanks for the heads up...again!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shouldn't that be the Tv Times or am I behind the times?

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By *exxifun5Couple
over a year ago

NORWICH

"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet

no that's Niki Lauda, just had film made about him, called Rush. Xx

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"Shouldn't that be the Tv Times or am I behind the times?"
Ok, next time I will put, any TV guide available.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Shouldn't that be the Tv Times or am I behind the times?Ok, next time I will put, any TV guide available.

I just use an app on my phone.

But I fear 'android television guide app man' maybe a bit of a mouthful!

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By *unluvinsoulxMan
over a year ago

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If senna's car had hit at any other angle I believe he may not have been killed as it was his right front tyre that hit him and killed him due to the impact . Another angle and he could have walked away from it as his cockpit was totally intact around him protecting his body.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

even if you don't like formula 1 or sport in general its one of the best ever documentaries, brilliant and will watch it again but without adverts!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hindsights a great thing but the race shouldn't have gone ahead,after the death in qualifying on the Saturday.

I don't believe in fate and Ayrton Senna would still be here today,a brilliant driver.

Without that Schumacher would have died and Mark Webber and Robert Kubizer"

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

"is this just another documentry... or is this the film about him that everyone raves on about...

if so.. will definately sky plus it!"
itis the film eeveryone raves about. But if you aren't into f1 then you will find it a bit dull. And if you are into f1 then you will find it frustrating. I work in motorsport and know many involved in the incident. Trust me it asks more questions than it answers. The fact is it was cold tyres/ and the resulting low pressures meaning a lower than normal ride hight that caused the accident. Plus the fact his head wasn't in the right place following the death of his good friend. The film tells nothing new and even omits a lot that is known. No one in motorsport will privately rate the film its just a bit of fluff for the masses

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

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"If senna's car had hit at any other angle I believe he may not have been killed as it was his right front tyre that hit him and killed him due to the impact . Another angle and he could have walked away from it as his cockpit was totally intact around him protecting his body."
he was killed by a part of the wishbone piercing his head

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If senna's car had hit at any other angle I believe he may not have been killed as it was his right front tyre that hit him and killed him due to the impact . Another angle and he could have walked away from it as his cockpit was totally intact around him protecting his body.he was killed by a part of the wishbone piercing his head"

It didn't pierce anything, he died of head/brain trauma due to the impact.

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By *cottishrichMan
over a year ago

Here and there

"Hindsights a great thing but the race shouldn't have gone ahead,after the death in qualifying on the Saturday.

I don't believe in fate and Ayrton Senna would still be here today,a brilliant driver.

Without that Schumacher would have died and Mark Webber and Robert Kubizer

Like any accident, there were a number of things that contributed. There had just been a safety car for another accident and it is believed that the tyre pressures had dropped, particularly at the rear, causing the car to bottom out. The steering column had been altered before the race and was broken after the accident but it was never proven to be the cause of the accident. Upon impact the front right tyre bounced back and struck his head and a piece of the front suspension penetrated the helmet just above the eye causing the head trauma which ultimately killed him.

It was a very sad weekend and very unlucky for him to die from what was actually quite a light impact. Many drivers have walked away from much worse looking accidents before and since. It's such a shame that one of the sports greatest champions had to die before safety was taken seriously and thankfully no one else has died in an F1 car since.

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By *unluvinsoulxMan
over a year ago

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Well it was a sad loss for sure and to be honest the safest thing about the movie was watching he progress and show his incredible talent and amazing career only to know the outcome. Depressing for sure.

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

"Hindsights a great thing but the race shouldn't have gone ahead,after the death in qualifying on the Saturday.

I don't believe in fate and Ayrton Senna would still be here today,a brilliant driver.

Without that Schumacher would have died and Mark Webber and Robert Kubizer

he was driving for the williams team, apparently the car had dodgy welding done to the steering colomn which the colomn eventually snapped and senna lost control at high speed, crashed and his head went into the broken steering colomn which he died of a result of serious head injuries, the race should of been cancelled after ratzenbergers death as a mark of respect i think"
the steering failure was a result ofthe ccrash. The modified steering column had been xrayed prior to fitting as all parts that are welded are. It was cold tyres due to the safty car the car bottomed out on the plank so the stearing didn't work as the front tyres didn't have enough of a contact patch. This is the findings of the fia. But never told in the film such I think is very unfair to williams

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By *unluvinsoulxMan
over a year ago

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Meant sadest , not safest . Stupid predictive text thingy ( slaps his phone)

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By *unluvinsoulxMan
over a year ago

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Oh and I will never forget that breath taking race at Monaco when he raced against mansell so close to the end and they both where so exhausted they could barely walk after lol pure focus on both parts

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

"If senna's car had hit at any other angle I believe he may not have been killed as it was his right front tyre that hit him and killed him due to the impact . Another angle and he could have walked away from it as his cockpit was totally intact around him protecting his body.he was killed by a part of the wishbone piercing his head

It didn't pierce anything, he died of head/brain trauma due to the impact."
I'm sorry but it did. I've heard it first hand from prof Sid Watkins rip

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By *unluvinsoulxMan
over a year ago

Newton Abbot

"If senna's car had hit at any other angle I believe he may not have been killed as it was his right front tyre that hit him and killed him due to the impact . Another angle and he could have walked away from it as his cockpit was totally intact around him protecting his body.he was killed by a part of the wishbone piercing his head

It didn't pierce anything, he died of head/brain trauma due to the impact. I'm sorry but it did. I've heard it first hand from prof Sid Watkins rip"

I believe you if you say do delight. I don't confess to being knowledgable to that extent . I like to remember the great races he was a part of that entertained the world

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If senna's car had hit at any other angle I believe he may not have been killed as it was his right front tyre that hit him and killed him due to the impact . Another angle and he could have walked away from it as his cockpit was totally intact around him protecting his body.he was killed by a part of the wishbone piercing his head

It didn't pierce anything, he died of head/brain trauma due to the impact. I'm sorry but it did. I've heard it first hand from prof Sid Watkins rip"

I'm sure Sid Watkins says clearly on the documentary that there wasn't a mark on Senna's body. How would that be possible if the wishbone pierced his helmet?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If senna's car had hit at any other angle I believe he may not have been killed as it was his right front tyre that hit him and killed him due to the impact . Another angle and he could have walked away from it as his cockpit was totally intact around him protecting his body.he was killed by a part of the wishbone piercing his head

It didn't pierce anything, he died of head/brain trauma due to the impact. I'm sorry but it did. I've heard it first hand from prof Sid Watkins rip

I'm sure Sid Watkins says clearly on the documentary that there wasn't a mark on Senna's body. How would that be possible if the wishbone pierced his helmet?"

I retract that, I just checked Wiki, you are correct Part of the wishbone penetrated his visor.

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

He was one of a kind but I think his death was inevitable. He took to many risks. One thing that the doc doesn't saywas qwispy at magny cours. I forget the year. Anyway he was little shy of pole but saw the timing line was just after the last corner. So he deliberately took the last corner to fast knowing he would crash. But he got pole.

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

Qually sorry

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By *wingerdelightCouple
over a year ago

eastliegh

He was with out dought a genius tho. Just very flored. Shumacher already had the measure or him. He was of the old school. If he was alive today he would be remembered today as good in his time but not the god he us made out to be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watching now, live!!

......& tears I cannot deny

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By *lackshadow7Man
over a year ago

Toronto

Greatest of all time.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

That was a very well put together film.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is he the one burnt in an accident during a race? If so, I have watched a programme about it, was very good so will watch this one as no-one really wants to meet

no that's Niki Lauda, just had film made about him, called Rush. Xx

I already worked that out and commented further up

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

There's some great footage in the end credits. Like when he stops his car to help after an accident.

He was a great driver and a great person (unless your name was Alain Prost...lol).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently there's the actual onboard footage of the actual crash on UTUBE - personally, I couldn't possibly watch it; but other people can..........we're all different, I know, but that definitely got the waterworks going - I freely admit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh and I will never forget that breath taking race at Monaco when he raced against mansell so close to the end and they both where so exhausted they could barely walk after lol pure focus on both parts

Im sure that was the race where the power steering on Senna's car had failed on lap 4? I think and he did the entire race on brute force and couldnt get out of the car at the end cos his arm, forearm, back and shoulder muscles had seized and cramped

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You're sure, only?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its a fantastic film

i have it on dvd

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watched it tonight - brilliant!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Apparently there's the actual onboard footage of the actual crash on UTUBE - personally, I couldn't possibly watch it; but other people can..........we're all different, I know, but that definitely got the waterworks going - I freely admit

I found the areal footage to be more disturbing. You can see him twitching in the car before the medical crews get to him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I found the areal footage to be more disturbing. You can see him twitching in the car before the medical crews get to him."

i find the change in alain prost fascinating and the behind the scenes politics amazing.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I found the areal footage to be more disturbing. You can see him twitching in the car before the medical crews get to him.

i find the change in alain prost fascinating and the behind the scenes politics amazing."

Prost was a crybaby when things weren't going his way and he knew he had the ear of the FIA president (Balistre). But, although he and Senna didn't like eachother on the track I think there was a huge respect for one another. They were both old school racing drivers and champions, Senna was perhaps the better driver but Prost was better at playing the political game.

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