FabSwingers.com forum: Should Foreign people be allowed to play for the national English team

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

With Immigration being so high. There is an argument/debate going on at the moment should immigrants who live in England be allowed to play for England or should it be an all English team and the main question is would foreign players make England a better team.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They do already in Cricket and rugby.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Exactly watching This Week and they are debating this and so are the FA X

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

And athletics x

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

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No!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think only born n bred footballers should play for their country!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People just wont be happy until they change everything to suit them and their minority group.

No is my answer.

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By *icked weaselCouple
over a year ago

Near Edinburgh..

NO..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes.

Perhaps should have lived here 4 a few years first x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People just wont be happy until they change everything to suit them and their minority group.

No is my answer."

It is a good way to involve minority groups though and people who want to belong here and become part of Britain. I would rather have one of them if they have the passion for Britain than a half arsed born here guy like Rio Ferdinand with his attitude to playing or the 3 lions.

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By *hocksandmissusCouple
over a year ago

Chester-ish

a big no

if they did how would you have a world cup or euro cup if every one is playing for every one it then just becomes league football xxxxxxx

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?"

Forgot to say, and it's only the dutchman that speak english!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?"

I know rooney is a ogre but he was born here. Besides Scotland already do it taking guys born in England to play for them and have for years.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

As stated on the other thread the answer is the passport. If you haven't got a UK passport you shouldn't be on the team.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?"

Does that matter? Surely it's just about winning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?

I know rooney is a ogre but he was born here. Besides Scotland already do it taking guys born in England to play for them and have for years. "

Every team in the world does that! Not just the scots. It's using the players parentage. I think they can go as far back as great grandparents or something.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?

Does that matter? Surely it's just about winning."

Is it? Winning is important but you want people committed to the country they play for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?

Does that matter? Surely it's just about winning."

True! Can imagine Lineker praising the big nigerian, i mean english forward on match of the day!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not sure. If a person qualifies for citizenship because they have been here fir five years then they get a British passport. So surely that qualifies them to play for Scotland , Wales and NI as well. Who gets to chose who has them. ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I love a good debate x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not sure. If a person qualifies for citizenship because they have been here fir five years then they get a British passport. So surely that qualifies them to play for Scotland , Wales and NI as well. Who gets to chose who has them. ? "

The managers fight it out live on telly. My money's on Strachan, he's a wee animal!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The managers fight it out live on telly. My money's on Strachan, he's a wee animal!

Could be more interesting than the football.

Seriously though if you came here as a child or a teenager and have grown up here why shouldn't you be allowed to play for England ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?

Does that matter? Surely it's just about winning.

True! Can imagine Lineker praising the big nigerian, i mean english forward on match of the day!

Probably just the same as Kenny Miller praising his Scottish team mate the wee Oldham born Jordan Rhodes on scoring.

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By *rnycpl2705Couple
over a year ago

Killin

"Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?

I know rooney is a ogre but he was born here. Besides Scotland already do it taking guys born in England to play for them and have for years. "

And England don't do the same.....Owen Hargreaves was born in Canada and he played for England, Terry Butcher was born in Singapore, Dominic Matteo is Scottish ,John Barnes is Jamaican......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As long as you went through the club's youth system not a problem for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?

I know rooney is a ogre but he was born here. Besides Scotland already do it taking guys born in England to play for them and have for years.

And England don't do the same.....Owen Hargreaves was born in Canada and he played for England, Terry Butcher was born in Singapore, Dominic Matteo is Scottish ,John Barnes is Jamaican......"

I didn't say England dont do it did I? Granted they havent had 7 foreigners in the squat at one point as Scotland currently do now thats going a bot too far and stifles young Scottish players.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?

Does that matter? Surely it's just about winning.

True! Can imagine Lineker praising the big nigerian, i mean english forward on match of the day!

Probably just the same as Kenny Miller praising his Scottish team mate the wee Oldham born Jordan Rhodes on scoring."

Born in Oldham. Brought up in Scotland. And his dad played scottish football at club level. He considers himself scottish. A world of difference than just coming over to play!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?

Does that matter? Surely it's just about winning.

True! Can imagine Lineker praising the big nigerian, i mean english forward on match of the day!

Probably just the same as Kenny Miller praising his Scottish team mate the wee Oldham born Jordan Rhodes on scoring.

Born in Oldham. Brought up in Scotland. And his dad played scottish football at club level. He considers himself scottish. A world of difference than just coming over to play!"

Not really he was born in Oldham and lived and played in England all his life and not once played in Scotland. He wanted a higher profile so opted to play for Scotland for convenience and to progress his carer. For him it was a smart financial move.

Then there are the rest.

Matt Phillips - Born in England

Russell Martin - Born in England

George Boyd - Born in England

Shaun Maloney - Born in Malaysia

Steven Fletcher - Born in England

Jamie Mackie - Born in England

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?

Does that matter? Surely it's just about winning.

True! Can imagine Lineker praising the big nigerian, i mean english forward on match of the day!

Probably just the same as Kenny Miller praising his Scottish team mate the wee Oldham born Jordan Rhodes on scoring.

Born in Oldham. Brought up in Scotland. And his dad played scottish football at club level. He considers himself scottish. A world of difference than just coming over to play!"

And he was on Barnsleys youth books at 12 so how was he brought up in Scotland??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Passport - simples, & the player then gets to choose between Eng, Scot, Wales & NI.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Passport - simples, & the player then gets to choose between Eng, Scot, Wales & NI."

If you went on passport then you would really have to have a British team so that one is out. Its either place of birth or residency (7years or more) for me if you are going to draw lines.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?

Does that matter? Surely it's just about winning.

True! Can imagine Lineker praising the big nigerian, i mean english forward on match of the day!

Probably just the same as Kenny Miller praising his Scottish team mate the wee Oldham born Jordan Rhodes on scoring.

Born in Oldham. Brought up in Scotland. And his dad played scottish football at club level. He considers himself scottish. A world of difference than just coming over to play!

Then there are the rest.

Matt Phillips - Born in England

Russell Martin - Born in England

George Boyd - Born in England

Shaun Maloney - Born in Malaysia

Steven Fletcher - Born in England

Jamie Mackie - Born in England

Phillips-Both grandparents scottish

Martin-Dad scottish

Boyd-Grandad scottish

Maloney-Mum scottish

Fletcher-Mum scottish

Mackie-Grandad scottish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Passport - simples, & the player then gets to choose between Eng, Scot, Wales & NI.

If you went on passport then you would really have to have a British team so that one is out. Its either place of birth or residency (7years or more) for me if you are going to draw lines. "
can you explain why you'd have to have a British team? I don't see why.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i think its very insulting to people that have come over from other countries, lived here for many years, and consider themselves English, to say 'you may think your English, be a part of your community, and contribute to your economy, but you just arent english enough im afraid'.

why is the English football team the last bastian of the great Arien race?

even germany have 'immigrants' playing for them ffs!!!

next we will be goosestepping out to the centre circle (yes, a little extreme, but its just as pathetic as the stance made)

berahino, playing for albion, born in somalia, or some war torn country, came over as a kid, considers himself english enough to play for the under 21's

same with zaha

barnes, and so on.

this has all blown up from an 18 year old Belgian, that no one actually knows if he is interested, but look, he has to be here 5 years before claiming residency anyway, so, if he is prepared to wait until he is 21 to play international football for this country, then, thats good enough for me.

thats shows more commitment to this countries national team than a few born and bred Englishmen have in the past.

and, finally, as an island race, there is NO such thing as pure bred English.

we are all born of immigrant or invaders, so basically, there IS no national team!

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

I suppose I have a personal interest in this one.

My soon to be born grandson will be born in Singapore to English parents, but he could claim to have a bit of Irish from his paternal great grandparents. Eventually it is likely that the family will settle in Australia, so should my grandson develop into a top sportsman, who would he play for?

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By *U1966Man
over a year ago

Devon

Should only be able to play for one of the home countries if they born in that country or one of their parents

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

who cares just because some kiss baller as said something the national press have gone in a little tizzy yet the English cricket,rugby and hockey teams never get a mention when the top players (johnny foreigners) represent and win things for this country.

bloody over reported, over paid self perpetuating bubble that is football strikes again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bloody hell, the comments are sounding like the Bernard Manning joke... ' if a dogs born in a stable, it don't make him a horse'.

The England team are so poor, I welcome any new blood!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lots of double standards around my first instinct is to say no and using footy as example i want strong england team i aint bothered about premier league as such due to amount of overseas players and i do not care how its dressed up it stifles chances of english players.

Regarding immigrants playing for england then if the player was brought over as a child and lives here then yes but if the ommigrant came over as adult then no they should not be considered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With Immigration being so high. There is an argument/debate going on at the moment should immigrants who live in England be allowed to play for England or should it be an all English team and the main question is would foreign players make England a better team."

No, if it's England they are playing for they should be born and bred in England, just my opinion be it right or wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"who cares just because some kiss baller as said something the national press have gone in a little tizzy yet the English cricket,rugby and hockey teams never get a mention when the top players (johnny foreigners) represent and win things for this country.

bloody over reported, over paid self perpetuating bubble that is football strikes again."

I was starting to get caught up in this debate when I read this and came to my senses!

I'm afraid the "national pride" of football is a bit of a farce. If you compare it to rugby where they've had world cup stars who were born in South Africa or Samoa there hasn't been half of the "oh why can't they all be born in the confines of the English borders crap". They hurl themselves into the fray for their country but far more importantly for their team mates. If the England football team fought as hard for each other let alone a flag they might get somewhere. Football is a totally self centred sport where being the best player is far more important than winning or being a team player sadly. Should immigrants play for England in football? Yes, if they're a team player and that also goes for ones born in England!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You never get British passport after 5 years been here.

Rules are like also pass exam - English language with 12 TENSES, history, and Im so sorry I dont want be rude..English people use only max. 4 tenses and don't have idea about 8 others. Only maybe the teachers,so..Foregineers must to know about all of them ! Also work here, don't use any kind of government support like taxes, paid aprox £1300 for passport.

I feeling sick when I read question like that. Maybe also we should ask about why English people play in teams in other countries? Why they work in other countries and they are not discriminate? They are treat like normal people. I should ask why my English neighbours live in my country? Give them a sample of questions like that? They are on pension from UK and they are live now near my home in Italy.

Open mind needed not only in sex lol. And guys more empathy !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Born and bred here only. Used to cringe at times with the Irish team who played anyone who liked Guiness.

England will in the long run, be a better team with less foreigners in the premiership as well, just don't hold your breath.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Born and Bred is a clear line of thought for some people. So, if you arrive at 1 week old and are now 22 never lived anywhere else in the world, consider yourself English, only speak English, only ever played for an English club and have two English Parents then it's still a no?

What about those born abroad who's parents were in the military or who were working there at the time? Still a no?

Perhaps we should take that all the way through to league football, so unless you were born in Leeds, you can't play for them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?

Does that matter? Surely it's just about winning.

True! Can imagine Lineker praising the big nigerian, i mean english forward on match of the day!

Probably just the same as Kenny Miller praising his Scottish team mate the wee Oldham born Jordan Rhodes on scoring.

Born in Oldham. Brought up in Scotland. And his dad played scottish football at club level. He considers himself scottish. A world of difference than just coming over to play!

Then there are the rest.

Matt Phillips - Born in England

Russell Martin - Born in England

George Boyd - Born in England

Shaun Maloney - Born in Malaysia

Steven Fletcher - Born in England

Jamie Mackie - Born in England

Phillips-Both grandparents scottish

Martin-Dad scottish

Boyd-Grandad scottish

Maloney-Mum scottish

Fletcher-Mum scottish

Mackie-Grandad scottish"

The Irish have been using imports for the last two decades it seems that to qualify to pull on the green jersey you only need possess a Dubliners LP.

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By *ollie_JCouple
over a year ago

London

As mentioned before we are an island race and most of us are of immigrant heritage (mine came over from France 900 years ago).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You never get British passport after 5 years been here.

Open mind needed not only in sex lol. And guys more empathy !

But would your neighbours be welcome to represent Italy in the next World Cup??

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By *atelotmanMan
over a year ago

Chatham

Why not just change the name to great Britain.Seems that way anyone can play for what ever team they want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Right. 6 spaniards, a dutchman, 3 italians and wayne rooney? How the fuck can they say that's then an english team?

Does that matter? Surely it's just about winning."

Anything to win the world cup!!! ha ha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The whole system is a mess right now. If you are not going to have country of birth then you have to be open to immigrants coming into the uk getting citizenship and being able to represent that country. Surely its far better than the football flag of convenience some use with even grandparents qualifying someone for that country when the player has never even lived there. Now that to me is a total farce! If someone has lived and worked in a country for 5 years surely they have more right than these guys who have lived all their life somewhere else but qualify because of one parent or grandparent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you hold a British Passport then what's the problem ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn't matter anymore its just about the winning and cash.The days of young kids playing football at their local team and then going through the ranks to one day if lucky play for their local league team and country are over.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

you are talking about two different issues here....

one is nationality thru ancestry..... one is residency...

I hate it when people bring up for example... mo farrah... because he has lived in the UK from the age of 8...

Chris Froome...

Kevin Pietersen...

Andrew Strauss...

Justin Rose...

and the list goes on... and on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

dont remember all this fuss when hargreaves was brought into the national side.

i suppose he did have an english mom, but her pussy on the way out, was the closest he had ever been to this country, til being picked....

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By *ollie_JCouple
over a year ago

London

"dont remember all this fuss when hargreaves was brought into the national side.

i suppose he did have an english mom, but her pussy on the way out, was the closest he had ever been to this country, til being picked...."

Welsh mother, English father, himself born in canada

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Residency is not an option. By that logic Maddie McCann could play for Portugal!

Born and bred in my view. Plenty of opportunity for foreigners in premiership. Its what makes wc good, seeing your club players sparring against their usual teammates

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"If you hold a British Passport then what's the problem ?

this is the point... you have to have a british passport to represent the country.. so if they is via parentage... or via residency they still need to have one!!!

how many great "british" sportspeople would you have missed out on if you have to have been Born in the UK.....

psst.... for example.... bradley wiggins

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

To answer the main question, the right foreign players would of course make for a better England football team.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Can you elaborate on your comment

"Residency is not an option. By that logic Maddie McCann could play for Portugal!"

Hope it wasn't a cheap joke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can you elaborate on your comment

"Residency is not an option. By that logic Maddie McCann could play for Portugal!"

Hope it wasn't a cheap joke"

I think it was a shit joke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So for those saying born and "Bred", does that mean their parents also have to be born in England?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"The whole system is a mess right now. If you are not going to have country of birth then you have to be open to immigrants coming into the uk getting citizenship and being able to represent that country. Surely its far better than the football flag of convenience some use with even grandparents qualifying someone for that country when the player has never even lived there. Now that to me is a total farce! If someone has lived and worked in a country for 5 years surely they have more right than these guys who have lived all their life somewhere else but qualify because of one parent or grandparent. "

okay..... devils advocate... lets put a face to this.....

I am american born.. British Mum (by way of the Carribean) American Dad, lived there till I was 14.... then lived here

If I was good Enough should I have been allowed to play for England in your eyes?????

or to compete for Great Britain in any sport??

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By *ussy licker1Man
over a year ago

cannock

no thay shkuld not play for england

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So for those saying born and "Bred", does that mean their parents also have to be born in England?"

ah no, its half 'baked' lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"dont remember all this fuss when hargreaves was brought into the national side.

i suppose he did have an english mom, but her pussy on the way out, was the closest he had ever been to this country, til being picked....

Welsh mother, English father, himself born in canada"

ahh, thats even worse then

it was just the beginning bit that was english, not even the escape hatch!!! lol

comment still stands.

imo, if someone is proud to represent the flag, and the country, then they should be allowed, no matter where they were born.

look at all the lads that play for african countries, whose parents were born there, but they were born here, just because they have no chance, or a slimmer chance, of playing for this country.

should we be getting onto them because they are pretty much stating they like ivory coast/nigeria/sth africa and so on, more than the country they were born in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well they let scots and irish and welsh in the english team dont they, myself i think england team should be 100% english and so on otherwise just call it UNITED KINGDOM FOOTIE TEAM lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"dont remember all this fuss when hargreaves was brought into the national side.

i suppose he did have an english mom, but her pussy on the way out, was the closest he had ever been to this country, til being picked....

Welsh mother, English father, himself born in canada

ahh, thats even worse then

it was just the beginning bit that was english, not even the escape hatch!!! lol

comment still stands.

imo, if someone is proud to represent the flag, and the country, then they should be allowed, no matter where they were born.

look at all the lads that play for african countries, whose parents were born there, but they were born here, just because they have no chance, or a slimmer chance, of playing for this country.

should we be getting onto them because they are pretty much stating they like ivory coast/nigeria/sth africa and so on, more than the country they were born in?

ENGLAND is not a country though is it BRITAIN is the country made up of English Scots Welsh and Northern Irelanders lol

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

The clue is in the name: national!

But I have a feeling that's not the real question being asked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes if they're BRITISH!!! Been going on years this. Rugby's a big advocate of this philosophy. The likes of New Zealand and Australia poaching Pacific Islanders. Mathew Stevens England tight head South African. Think Mo Farrah was Somali. Kevin Pietersen South African.

Basically if you're British, hold a British passport, you ain't gonna stop someone turning out for the home country they choose.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder if the same people saying they can't play for England because they weren't born here, would complain if those same players didn't support England when they played in the world cup?

I wasn't born here, I was born in Canada and I'm not British or English, my children are dual nationality, I've lived all over the world and as a rule, if I watch football I support Brazil (no point supporting Canada) or the underdog unless England is playing then I support England. In Rugby I support Canada, England and the Underdog in any given match, In Ice Hockey (or Hockey as we call it) I support Canada. Life isn't as black and white (or English and other) as people would like.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"As stated on the other thread the answer is the passport. If you haven't got a UK passport you shouldn't be on the team."

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By *lackshadow7Man
over a year ago

Toronto

"The clue is in the name: national!

But I have a feeling that's not the real question being asked."

Saved me typing

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over a year ago

"dont remember all this fuss when hargreaves was brought into the national side.

i suppose he did have an english mom, but her pussy on the way out, was the closest he had ever been to this country, til being picked....

Welsh mother, English father, himself born in canada

ahh, thats even worse then

it was just the beginning bit that was english, not even the escape hatch!!! lol

comment still stands.

imo, if someone is proud to represent the flag, and the country, then they should be allowed, no matter where they were born.

look at all the lads that play for african countries, whose parents were born there, but they were born here, just because they have no chance, or a slimmer chance, of playing for this country.

should we be getting onto them because they are pretty much stating they like ivory coast/nigeria/sth africa and so on, more than the country they were born in?

ENGLAND is not a country though is it BRITAIN is the country made up of English Scots Welsh and Northern Irelanders lol"

really?

England isnt a country?

oh my life, some people really do amaze me.

the UK is a UNITY made up of different COUNTRIES.

why the hell do you think SCOTLAND is trying to go it alone?

do you think it would be the same if KENT wanted devolution?

truly truly ridiculous

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By *lackshadow7Man
over a year ago

Toronto

"England isnt a country?

oh my life, some people really do amaze me.

the UK is a UNITY made up of different COUNTRIES.

why the hell do you think SCOTLAND is trying to go it alone?

do you think it would be the same if KENT wanted devolution?

truly truly ridiculous"

Geography 101

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over a year ago

"dont remember all this fuss when hargreaves was brought into the national side.

i suppose he did have an english mom, but her pussy on the way out, was the closest he had ever been to this country, til being picked....

Welsh mother, English father, himself born in canada

ahh, thats even worse then

it was just the beginning bit that was english, not even the escape hatch!!! lol

comment still stands.

imo, if someone is proud to represent the flag, and the country, then they should be allowed, no matter where they were born.

look at all the lads that play for african countries, whose parents were born there, but they were born here, just because they have no chance, or a slimmer chance, of playing for this country.

should we be getting onto them because they are pretty much stating they like ivory coast/nigeria/sth africa and so on, more than the country they were born in?

ENGLAND is not a country though is it BRITAIN is the country made up of English Scots Welsh and Northern Irelanders lol

really?

England isnt a country?

oh my life, some people really do amaze me.

the UK is a UNITY made up of different COUNTRIES.

why the hell do you think SCOTLAND is trying to go it alone?

do you think it would be the same if KENT wanted devolution?

truly truly ridiculous"

Actually it's not that clear cut.

Great Britain is made up of Wales, Scotland and England and then add Northern Ireland and you've got you've got the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Technically England, Scotland, N. Ireland and Wales aren't countries reccognised internationally (you don't get an English passport) but at the same time they are countries. For example there is not English Government (not since 1707) so it has not global representation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you were born in this country I don't care where your past generations where from,you're English and that should entitle you to play for our national side.

If they allow foreigners to represent England in the future,that makes a mockery of the whole system. The clue is in the name England,some things are best left as they are and if foreigners are introduced one day,I for one will not follow them again.

Athletics is different it's a GB team,not exclusively English. As for cricket and other sports like many footie fans in this country,I couldn't give a flying fuck.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

okay then... quick question for anyone saying no....

Define "foreigner".....

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over a year ago

"okay then... quick question for anyone saying no....

Define "foreigner"....."

the glib answer, is anyone not born in this country, but im with you.

as said, if you have a sense that you feel 'english' (or british for those that feel there is no such thing as England) then i for one (born of welsh, english and dutch grandparents) say why the hell not.

i see no wrong, if you are prepared to fight for the flag of st george, and sing the national anthem (even 'english' players dont do this) then you are more than welcome in my book.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"dont remember all this fuss when hargreaves was brought into the national side.

i suppose he did have an english mom, but her pussy on the way out, was the closest he had ever been to this country, til being picked....

Welsh mother, English father, himself born in canada

ahh, thats even worse then

it was just the beginning bit that was english, not even the escape hatch!!! lol

comment still stands.

imo, if someone is proud to represent the flag, and the country, then they should be allowed, no matter where they were born.

look at all the lads that play for african countries, whose parents were born there, but they were born here, just because they have no chance, or a slimmer chance, of playing for this country.

should we be getting onto them because they are pretty much stating they like ivory coast/nigeria/sth africa and so on, more than the country they were born in?

ENGLAND is not a country though is it BRITAIN is the country made up of English Scots Welsh and Northern Irelanders lol

really?

England isnt a country?

oh my life, some people really do amaze me.

the UK is a UNITY made up of different COUNTRIES.

why the hell do you think SCOTLAND is trying to go it alone?

do you think it would be the same if KENT wanted devolution?

truly truly ridiculous"

I'm surprised you're surprised at ignorance.

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By *ollie_JCouple
over a year ago

London

So people born in Germany to British parents serving in the army is a foreigner even though they have a passport?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Small minded shallow people.

What's next.... Should foreign people be allowed to swing? IDIOTS

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"okay then... quick question for anyone saying no....

Define "foreigner"....."

Not white! That's right, I said it!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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Someone chooses to live here and want to play for our country, why not, it means they think of themselves as included which can only be a good thing

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over a year ago

"okay then... quick question for anyone saying no....

Define "foreigner".....

the glib answer, is anyone not born in this country, but im with you.

i see no wrong, if you are prepared to fight for the flag of st george, and sing the national anthem (even 'english' players dont do this) then you are more than welcome in my book."

I felt like an Indian last night. A Chinese last week. Just coz you feel something does not make it any more real.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have absolutely no problem with anyone representing England in whatever sport if they perceive themselves to be English , or British for that matter. It's only a bloody game after all. In my 45 odd years living here I can count on one hand the number of people I have met who can claim to be 100% English anyway.

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By *--Cinders---Couple
over a year ago

a place near Blackpool

"So people born in Germany to British parents serving in the army is a foreigner even though they have a passport?"

I was born in Tripoli, my dad was serving in the British army, does that make me a foreigner?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me a foreigner is someone who grew up in another country but came here to settle for whatever reason. It has NOTHING to do with the colour of their skin.

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By *aulsussex5Man
over a year ago

nr Gatwick

Ok my personal view, bearing in mind I am not a football fan is this:

UK football clubs should only have UK born players that can legitimately hold a UK passports, as it is now all Premier League teams have foriegn players and some teams are made up of lots of them so arent we in a situation already where UK teams are international teams? Makes a mockery of the European Cup doesnt it cos its just 2 international teams palying each other, not a UK team playing a German or Spanish team for example?

I appreciate this theory is full of loop holes etc and I am braced for tons of abuse but as said... not a football fan so just a point of view

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok my personal view, bearing in mind I am not a football fan is this:

I appreciate this theory is full of loop holes etc and I am braced for tons of abuse but as said... not a football fan so just a point of view

The difference is that we are discussing national teams. The champions league differs from the euro for this reason

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By *heffmistressWoman
over a year ago

sheffield

It's only a fucking game, who really cares......and walks out of this discussion shaking her head sadly. Pop corn anyone, an American invention, is it ok to eat it?

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By *aulsussex5Man
over a year ago

nr Gatwick

"It's only a fucking game, who really cares......and walks out of this discussion shaking her head sadly. Pop corn anyone, an American invention, is it ok to eat it?

Mmmmm Popcorn!!! Totally forgotten what we were discussing now!!!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"For me a foreigner is someone who grew up in another country but came here to settle for whatever reason. It has NOTHING to do with the colour of their skin."

okay... lets open up a can of worms.....

grew up in another country up till what age.... 0, 2, 5, 8, 10, ect ect ect......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

[Regarding immigrants playing for england then if the player was brought over as a child and lives here then yes but if the ommigrant came over as adult then no they should not be considered.

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over a year ago

"For me a foreigner is someone who grew up in another country but came here to settle for whatever reason. It has NOTHING to do with the colour of their skin.

okay... lets open up a can of worms.....

grew up in another country up till what age.... 0, 2, 5, 8, 10, ect ect ect......"

It would have to be on the basis that they came to this country as a "child" ie under 16

have attended school here and been absorbed into the youth football and then into club football ...

Not as an adult who has been bought by a priemership club ...

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over a year ago

"For me a foreigner is someone who grew up in another country but came here to settle for whatever reason. It has NOTHING to do with the colour of their skin.

okay... lets open up a can of worms.....

grew up in another country up till what age.... 0, 2, 5, 8, 10, ect ect ect......"

Then you get boxers moving to Canada, winning an Olympic gold. Moving back to UK and saying I considered myself British all along! If you were not born in country you reside in you a foreign. Regardless of parentage, customs abided or age.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"[Regarding immigrants playing for england then if the player was brought over as a child and lives here then yes but if the ommigrant came over as adult then no they should not be considered.

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Why should that make a difference?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So people born in Germany to British parents serving in the army is a foreigner even though they have a passport?"

Nope, because they were born to British parents, who work on British land - on the basis are entiltled to a British Passport - however it gets a little bit more complicated when you have a serviceperson married to a local - as dual citizenship is still a little grey area ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"[Regarding immigrants playing for england then if the player was brought over as a child and lives here then yes but if the ommigrant came over as adult then no they should not be considered.

/quote]

Because as an adult thay have had the chance to play for their natural country and have chosen not to - for whatever personal reason ..

a child however, has naturalised in their new adopted country and therefore should qualify...

Why should that make a difference?"

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Reckon we should try it for just one four year period to see if i can be there when we win the world cup and European championships in my lifetime

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Woteva nationality your parents r?

Woteva nationality your grandparents r?

Lets all stic 2 that concept.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Woteva nationality your parents r?

Woteva nationality your grandparents r?

Lets all stic 2 that concept. "

Why? If you go that far back why not 3, or 4 generations further. Far simpler to go with where they were born or where they choose to call their home and want to belong to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

... wherever I lay my hat, that's my home... as the song goes.

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By *arnaclebillMan
over a year ago

Robin Hood County

Nope

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's " political correctness " getting out of hand.

Wen I was growing-up. It was up2 the stage of your grandparents place of birth? and nationality?

Now, any " Dick. / Tom. & Harry. " can play 4 any c*nt now, LMAO.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"okay then... quick question for anyone saying no....

Define "foreigner".....

Not white! That's right, I said it!"

What a strange thing to say! It's not about race at all!

Anyway.... My problem with the current rules is that a player can play for a country at international level all the way from youth to under 21's and then if he isn't good enough for the senior squad he can then change his mind and play for a different nation. In my view, they should be able to pick from the countries they're eligible to represent at say.. 18 and from then on be unable to change.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

so that rules out Bradley Wiggins... he was born and raised in Belgium till the age of 2...

that rules out Mo Farrah... he was born and raised in Somalia till the age of 7...

that rules out Luol Deng... he was born and raised in sudan till the age of 10

that rules out Beth Tweddle.... she was born and raised in South Africa till the age of 2...

that Rules out Laura Robson.... She was Born and raised in Australia till the age of 2, then moved to singapore.. she didn't reach the UK till she was 6

so are all of the "foreign"........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's " political correctness " getting out of hand.

Wen I was growing-up. It was up2 the stage of your grandparents place of birth? and nationality?

Now, any " Dick. / Tom. & Harry. " can play 4 any c*nt now, LMAO. "

But it wasn't 30+ years ago people played for the country they where born in rather than look for wear one of their 4 grand parents might have been born in the hope of playing for them.

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By *heffmistressWoman
over a year ago

sheffield

"Woteva nationality your parents r?

Woteva nationality your grandparents r?

Lets all stic 2 that concept. "

Sorry but was that actually English?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Woteva nationality your parents r?

Woteva nationality your grandparents r?

Lets all stic 2 that concept.

Sorry but was that actually English?

Txt writing for quickness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

so that rules out Bradley Wiggins... he was born and raised in Belgium till the age of 2...

that rules out Mo Farrah... he was born and raised in Somalia till the age of 7...

that rules out Luol Deng... he was born and raised in sudan till the age of 10

that rules out Beth Tweddle.... she was born and raised in South Africa till the age of 2...

that Rules out Laura Robson.... She was Born and raised in Australia till the age of 2, then moved to singapore.. she didn't reach the UK till she was 6

so are all of the "foreign"........

That's correct.. I think it should be born there or nothing. They should have joined the squad they were born in. Think its a farce mo is a Brit icon when not British born. Same as Andy Murray British when wins but a Scot when loses!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Woteva nationality your parents r?

Woteva nationality your grandparents r?

Lets all stic 2 that concept.

Sorry but was that actually English?

Do you feel better for pulling someone up on tier grammar?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

in fact if foreign should only be allowed to join the British army. If reside here can fight for here. Why ain't they proud if their own heritage?

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

We don't have a rule that people need to type perfectly so please don't pull people up on it as it puts people off from posting.

Thanks.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"in fact if foreign should only be allowed to join the British army. If reside here can fight for here. Why ain't they proud if their own heritage?"

so good enough to represent the country to join the army, but not good enough to represent the country in anything else....

have I got that about right?... don't want to be accused of putting words in your mouth

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over a year ago

"in fact if foreign should only be allowed to join the British army. If reside here can fight for here. Why ain't they proud if their own heritage?

so good enough to represent the country to join the army, but not good enough to represent the country in anything else....

have I got that about right?... don't want to be accused of putting words in your mouth"

Yes. Where is the pride to play for your OWN Country? I say they should be exempt apart from armed forces. Simply as if want live here should be willing to fight also

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

Hargreaves was about to be capped by Wales when Howard Wilkinson realised and named him in an England squad.

I'm trying to remember whether he played for any Wales age groups.

I can't believe people are saying you have to be BORN in a country to represent them. That would have ruled our so many stars over the years.

I have many Welsh friends who weren't born here, but are 100% Welsh. On the opposite side of it, try telling my mate who was born in Wales to two cockney parents he couldn't represent England!

What if a woman gives birth while over a border to visit friends?

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By *irtydanMan
over a year ago

Blackpool

no full stop

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"in fact if foreign should only be allowed to join the British army. If reside here can fight for here. Why ain't they proud if their own heritage?

so good enough to represent the country to join the army, but not good enough to represent the country in anything else....

have I got that about right?... don't want to be accused of putting words in your mouth

Yes. Where is the pride to play for your OWN Country? I say they should be exempt apart from armed forces. Simply as if want live here should be willing to fight also"

So if you're an immigrant to this country for whatever reason then this isn't "your" country?

Also, don't mean to be rude, but your concept of the armed forces needs updating.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out of interest at what point are these immigrants allowed to support the national team? Do they have to wait a certain period of time or can they never support the national team even if they've lived here for years?

I'm a little horrified at the "Little Englander" attitude of some but then throw the word immigrant into a forum post and it's hardly surprising.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

that is why I asked people to define "immigrant" and "foreigner"..... because I gave some examples above... and I bet you wouldn't accuse them of being "foreign" to their face..or in most decent company

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over a year ago

"that is why I asked people to define "immigrant" and "foreigner"..... because I gave some examples above... and I bet you wouldn't accuse them of being "foreign" to their face..or in most decent company"

The keyboard is strong in some

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Forgive me for my ignorance, but, isn't this subject about the young lad who scored twice for man utd last week? Won't his own national team have something to say in the matter? Or will money talk, like it does in the premiership!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To represent GB is totally different to representing your own country so stay on track please. This is about the England national football team,nothing else.

It's nothing to do with race but obviously gender,so anything else is not valid or relevant.

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By *lums121Couple
over a year ago

nottingham

next they will want big wages and will lead to buy a country team a big no from me

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"To represent GB is totally different to representing your own country so stay on track please. This is about the England national football team,nothing else.

It's nothing to do with race but obviously gender,so anything else is not valid or relevant."

hers the kicker... it actually isn't..... thats the red herring!!

they have to use the same rules at a minimum that would be applied to ANY sport under the IOC banner.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"next they will want big wages and will lead to buy a country team a big no from me "

Surely they'd get big wages if they earned them?

If they're English they should be able to play for England. On what basis they become English I've little interest in other than that they contribute. Winning a world cup would be a good start..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perhaps I need educating then Fabio. Does this mean the FA could be potentially overruled by FIFA regarding player selection ? Can't believe Sepp Blatter would do anything to piss off us English even more

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By *heffmistressWoman
over a year ago

sheffield

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Perhaps I need educating then Fabio. Does this mean the FA could be potentially overruled by FIFA regarding player selection ? Can't believe Sepp Blatter would do anything to piss off us English even more

no... what it means is that you have to have a passport for the country you are competing for, and you must meet the minimum requirements for nationality for that country.... be that thru Ancestry or Residency

what they can do is add certain rules on top... so for example in the case of football, FIFA say you can not have represented another country... which is not the same for athletics (IAAF) or Cycling (UCI) for example

the player in question at the moment who made this question arise, Adnan Januzaj, actually hasn't played international football at any level for anyone... which makes it such an interesting case

as it stands at the moment, the player would not meet the requirements to play for England under the unique rules set out in the Home nations agreement. The Home nations agreement requires that players engage in a minimum of five years education under the age of 18 within the territory of the relevant association and do not offer national team eligibility through residency.

it is the residency issue that is now being discussed, in the uk at the moment the residency rule to get a british passport is 7 years... which i why he would be potentially eligable is march 2018

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

His family fled Kosovo for Belgium. He sees himself as Kosovan, but they don't have a international team.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

if they were to ever change the rule... another that could ask to represent one of the home nations is for example, Mikel Arteta

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over a year ago

"His family fled Kosovo for Belgium. He sees himself as Kosovan, but they don't have a international team.

That's " tough " on his part.

No way should he play for, England.

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over a year ago

"in fact if foreign should only be allowed to join the British army. If reside here can fight for here. Why ain't they proud if their own heritage?

so good enough to represent the country to join the army, but not good enough to represent the country in anything else....

have I got that about right?... don't want to be accused of putting words in your mouth

Yes. Where is the pride to play for your OWN Country? I say they should be exempt apart from armed forces. Simply as if want live here should be willing to fight also"

i shake my head at the stupidity of this post, i really do.

you are happy for 'johnny foreigner' to fight, and spill his/her blood for your safety, in your name, but you wont let him kick a bag of wind around a piece of grass?

holy shit!!

this thread is really really opening my eyes to peoples opinions on this island.

wish some mp's were swingers on here, cuz they would get a shock at some of the attitudes being displayed

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over a year ago

"His family fled Kosovo for Belgium. He sees himself as Kosovan, but they don't have a international team.

That's " tough " on his part.

No way should he play for, England. "

"tough"?

So do you think if he lived here for a period of time you'd want him to support the England team? or should he never do that either?

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over a year ago

"in fact if foreign should only be allowed to join the British army. If reside here can fight for here. Why ain't they proud if their own heritage?

so good enough to represent the country to join the army, but not good enough to represent the country in anything else....

have I got that about right?... don't want to be accused of putting words in your mouth

Yes. Where is the pride to play for your OWN Country? I say they should be exempt apart from armed forces. Simply as if want live here should be willing to fight also

i shake my head at the stupidity of this post, i really do.

you are happy for 'johnny foreigner' to fight, and spill his/her blood for your safety, in your name, but you wont let him kick a bag of wind around a piece of grass?

holy shit!!

this thread is really really opening my eyes to peoples opinions on this island.

wish some mp's were swingers on here, cuz they would get a shock at some of the attitudes being displayed"

You really expect any different on here???

you are talking to people who pull the chair up to the 50in plasma have their England shirts on and imagine its them on the grass. They put cammo gear on to play Call of Duty too you can't expect them to pretend they are a guy with a foreign name while they are armchair footballing it.

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"in fact if foreign should only be allowed to join the British army. If reside here can fight for here. Why ain't they proud if their own heritage?

so good enough to represent the country to join the army, but not good enough to represent the country in anything else....

have I got that about right?... don't want to be accused of putting words in your mouth

Yes. Where is the pride to play for your OWN Country? I say they should be exempt apart from armed forces. Simply as if want live here should be willing to fight also

i shake my head at the stupidity of this post, i really do.

you are happy for 'johnny foreigner' to fight, and spill his/her blood for your safety, in your name, but you wont let him kick a bag of wind around a piece of grass?

holy shit!!

this thread is really really opening my eyes to peoples opinions on this island.

wish some mp's were swingers on here, cuz they would get a shock at some of the attitudes being displayed

You really expect any different on here???

dude, honestly, i know some right idiots lurk around these parts.

but to say you are happy to see some bloke die in your name, but not kick a football around, brings whole new meaning to being up your own arse.

i really honestly cant get my head round it.

now i know why the campaign for the Ghurkas to settle here took so long, with such intraspective views.

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You never get British passport after 5 years been here.

Open mind needed not only in sex lol. And guys more empathy !

But would your neighbours be welcome to represent Italy in the next World Cup??

italian rugby team already have Australian Luke McLean playing for them

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"in fact if foreign should only be allowed to join the British army. If reside here can fight for here. Why ain't they proud if their own heritage?

so good enough to represent the country to join the army, but not good enough to represent the country in anything else....

have I got that about right?... don't want to be accused of putting words in your mouth

Yes. Where is the pride to play for your OWN Country? I say they should be exempt apart from armed forces. Simply as if want live here should be willing to fight also

i shake my head at the stupidity of this post, i really do.

you are happy for 'johnny foreigner' to fight, and spill his/her blood for your safety, in your name, but you wont let him kick a bag of wind around a piece of grass?

holy shit!!

this thread is really really opening my eyes to peoples opinions on this island.

wish some mp's were swingers on here, cuz they would get a shock at some of the attitudes being displayed

You really expect any different on here???

dude, honestly, i know some right idiots lurk around these parts.

but to say you are happy to see some bloke die in your name, but not kick a football around, brings whole new meaning to being up your own arse.

i really honestly cant get my head round it.

now i know why the campaign for the Ghurkas to settle here took so long, with such intraspective views."

Joking apart its pretty disrespectful and a lot of the serving and guys who have served on here won't view it well and that's not a good position to be in frankly. You will always get the ones who think unless you are born here and have 4 generations plus lineage you dont belong its the dont come over here taking my job its my mop and my floor attitude which is pretty sad.

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"in fact if foreign should only be allowed to join the British army. If reside here can fight for here. Why ain't they proud if their own heritage?

so good enough to represent the country to join the army, but not good enough to represent the country in anything else....

have I got that about right?... don't want to be accused of putting words in your mouth

Yes. Where is the pride to play for your OWN Country? I say they should be exempt apart from armed forces. Simply as if want live here should be willing to fight also

i shake my head at the stupidity of this post, i really do.

you are happy for 'johnny foreigner' to fight, and spill his/her blood for your safety, in your name, but you wont let him kick a bag of wind around a piece of grass?

holy shit!!

this thread is really really opening my eyes to peoples opinions on this island.

wish some mp's were swingers on here, cuz they would get a shock at some of the attitudes being displayed

You really expect any different on here???

dude, honestly, i know some right idiots lurk around these parts.

but to say you are happy to see some bloke die in your name, but not kick a football around, brings whole new meaning to being up your own arse.

i really honestly cant get my head round it.

now i know why the campaign for the Ghurkas to settle here took so long, with such intraspective views."

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"in fact if foreign should only be allowed to join the British army. If reside here can fight for here. Why ain't they proud if their own heritage?

so good enough to represent the country to join the army, but not good enough to represent the country in anything else....

have I got that about right?... don't want to be accused of putting words in your mouth

Yes. Where is the pride to play for your OWN Country? I say they should be exempt apart from armed forces. Simply as if want live here should be willing to fight also

i shake my head at the stupidity of this post, i really do.

you are happy for 'johnny foreigner' to fight, and spill his/her blood for your safety, in your name, but you wont let him kick a bag of wind around a piece of grass?

holy shit!!

this thread is really really opening my eyes to peoples opinions on this island.

wish some mp's were swingers on here, cuz they would get a shock at some of the attitudes being displayed

You really expect any different on here???

I'm Scottish. Why do you think I beleive they should only be English!!!!

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"in fact if foreign should only be allowed to join the British army. If reside here can fight for here. Why ain't they proud if their own heritage?

so good enough to represent the country to join the army, but not good enough to represent the country in anything else....

have I got that about right?... don't want to be accused of putting words in your mouth

Yes. Where is the pride to play for your OWN Country? I say they should be exempt apart from armed forces. Simply as if want live here should be willing to fight also

i shake my head at the stupidity of this post, i really do.

you are happy for 'johnny foreigner' to fight, and spill his/her blood for your safety, in your name, but you wont let him kick a bag of wind around a piece of grass?

holy shit!!

this thread is really really opening my eyes to peoples opinions on this island.

wish some mp's were swingers on here, cuz they would get a shock at some of the attitudes being displayed

You really expect any different on here???

I'm Scottish. Why do you think I beleive they should only be English!!!! "

We all know nobody is brave enough to go in and buy a Scottish shirt come on the sniggering would be deafening from the other shoppers!

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You really expect any different on here???

That's superb! Cammo gear on for Call of Duty! Laughed my arse off

As for the football kit, on twitter there's a feed called "fullkitwankers" which has candid shots of people wearing full kit (socks included) to the shops etc, it's hilarious

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That's superb! Cammo gear on for Call of Duty! Laughed my arse off

As for the football kit, on twitter there's a feed called "fullkitwankers" which has candid shots of people wearing full kit (socks included) to the shops etc, it's hilarious

I love full kit wankers. Especially the ones that also wear shin pads.

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